Bryden's theory on everything/mental institution

[julio]

Bryden iḿ so happy that you mentioned the woman passing through the doors several times not being an error.
I caught a man appearing in several episodes and what it was strange was that he was in several locations but the weirdest part was that i saw him in the island back in 70's looking younger
At the time i thought he was an extra , but why changing his looks ?
I'll try to find the pictures i took and post them , because there might be more scenes where he appears.From what i remember i saw him at the mental institution , in London and in the island.

Another thing that i found weird was some pictures that i saw in the brainwash movie.There are a few pictures that to me looked like a tv studio and a warehouse .As soon as i found them i'll post them.

Check this link:
http://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry...riment_pos.php

[julio]

The man with glasses as i posted before, if you look through the series you will find him in other places.

[Selah]

wow so much to catch up on...i wish i had the time!!! ugh, RL. what you do to me

i was researching "Hoth" for my fan fic...don't ask but this struck me kinda like, "huh, we've been talking about this therapy for awhile now..."

Words containing "Hoth": psychotherapeutic, psychotherapies, psychotherapist, psychotherapists, psychotherapy

perhaps the "star wars" fetish wasn't the only reason....

also, the brief summary of what happens on HOTH can be seen as:

“The Rebel Alliance relocated to Hoth after their victory in the Battle of Yavin. However, an Imperial probe droid discovered the base on Hoth, but was itself discovered, and the Rebels began preparations to leave, although an Imperial Death Squadron arrived too soon, and the Rebels were forced into combat.”

now, if i can weed out and put our players into this... The Rebels and The Imperial Death Squadron will be at war, or odds...sort of like how our 'patients'/'suvivors' are at odds with each other and "the others" throughout the season...not to mention how it's black/white, us vs. them, mentality lingers...

but with your notion that sawyer isn't who he claims to be...perhaps he is playing for the other side...the droid who is discovered, thus putting the others in jeopardy...initiating the battle that is to come....

and by God if Sawyer is really Harold Wollstein, how "unsexy" does that make him? lol

Sawyer just oozes sexy. Harold...i used to get my subs from Harold's Deli. subs...ha, i just tied in LOST to real life. oh boy

[Bryden]

I particularly love the “hoth” finds, Selah!


julio, excellent! And I’m thrilled to see you posting again!

Yes, either we’re all losing our minds and seeing things that aren’t there or don’t matter, or else we’re doing what the audience is SUPPOSED to be doing at the mystery-solving level of this series. I’m going with the latter.


I think you're right, as common sense says the guy wearing the glasses on the "island" in 1977 would not appear the same way in the Sydney airport with Sun in 2004/2007. Hell, what are the chances he would BE at that airport with Sun AND previously on the "island"? Slim to none...UNLESS this is some bizarre experiment. If that guy was blank number of years old in 1977, he'd of course be 30 years older in 2007. But he doesn't appear to have aged a bit. And surely TPTB know that this audience is going to question that. And so you did, julio, so good for you! I can honestly say I probably would've never noticed that guy. Amazing eyes you have, my dear!


So you saw the guy in the glasses, and I saw the woman outside Frank’s office, and the man and woman outside Jack’s tent. And kfree got me thinking again about Theresa...

Originally Posted by Bryden

Was last night's Jughead great for this theory, or what?!







Laying in a hospital bed, hooked up to machines, drugged/hypnotized/whatever, recalling the past, anticipating the future, and believing you're somewhere you're actually not. Reaching out to the people in your life who have died...

I LOVED this Teresa scene because it means we’re on the right track with this theory! Her situation is exactly the type of situation we would expect if this theory is correct. So not only WOULD the writers do this in this LOST series, they DID this in this LOST series. They're DOING it in this LOST series.

And this situation with Teresa in the bed seems eerily similar to that video game Sanitarium that I mentioned upthread. It also reminds me of that MK Ultra Project from the 60s that is mentioned several times in here as well. There being a The Sleep Room and all. And THAT situation, that project, really happened. As a result, many mental patients got worse, lost all their memory…

Teresa looks as though she never transitioned back to the real world; she never woke up. Are there other Losties that will face that same predicament? And Richard, could this be why he’s been around so long? He never woke up, so he never left the “island”?

It looks as though even Widmore once “visited” the “island.” But HE was able to leave, wake up, take up his life in the real world again.

So can we assume that Teresa is on the “island” with the Losties? Who/where is she, I wonder? And like the other Losties, does she look the same off the “island” as she does on the “island”?


Teresa falls up the stairs; Teresa falls down the stairs. Boone’s nanny? If so, then it looks to me as if Boone really WAS on that “island” for a purpose. Without Boone, would Locke have found that first hatch?

As I mentioned in my quoted post above, how great and how important would it be for this theory to have a sighting of THERESA on that “island”?


Sledgeweb’s Lost Stuff. http://lost.cubit.net/archives/inves...nvestigations/

Check out the following screen cap and video, courtesy of Sledgeweb’s.

Video:

http://lost.cubit.net/archives/2009/...stian.php#more

Screencap made from video:




Absolutely fantastic! And of course when applying this theory to that video/screen cap, we can say that woman behind Sun on that “island” may be Theresa. Because we know Theresa CAN be in that bed in GB, and on that “island” at the very same time. She appears to be wearing the same dress on the “island” as she was wearing in the photograph with Daniel. Short-sleeved, purple…blonde hair…


Lost-Media screen cap of Theresa in that dress:






Also…




The snapshot of the '77 DI recruits. I already talked about Jack's reasons for detonating the bomb, and I think it's important to include Daniel's as well. And Daniel's reasons have everything to do with this photo. Daniel got a copy of THIS photo. He shows it to Miles, and he tells him that it's the reason he came back. So what is it about the photo? He's nervous, he's "Twitchy..."


What bugs Daniel the most? If you're working behind the scenes of this psychological experiment and you need to get Daniel back to the "island" level of the experiment, then what do you threaten him with? What is the only thing the poor guy has left, the only thing he's clinging to desperately, something his mother has always assured him he has? I say it's brilliance -- his time and space theorem.


Put Daniel's findings in jeopardy and he comes scrambling back, talking about destiny and a bomb, and yada yada yada, he's crazy.


So again, what is it about the photo that puts his precious time-travel theory in jeopardy?



Kate, standing front and center. She's baaaaack!



Could Kate be the reason Daniel came back to salvage his theory? She wasn’t around when he left the “island,” but here she is now, and she's carrying something so important it could destroy what Daniel's been putting together and preaching about his entire adult life.



I still maintain, that Kate is pregnant, she’s pregnant with Sawyer’s child, and once the age of that fetus is determined, the result would blow any talk of time travel right out of the water. And Daniel simply couldn't allow that to happen. So he went for the bomb.



ETA:


I have a lot to post, so I'll start here and continue on the next post. And I'm in a hurry, so I'll apologize in advance for any rambling. Can't be helped.





The House of the Rising Sun...an S1 title for a Kwon-centric episode...is also the title of a song and I'm not sure I mentioned that before, and if I did, I'm not sure I made the following link. New Orleans. Sawyer.

http://www.lyrics.com/house-of-the-r...e-animals.html

There is a house in New Orleans
They call the Rising Sun
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God I know I'm one

My mother was a tailor
She sewed my new blue jeans
My father was a gamblin' man
Down in New Orleans

New Orleans…the same place Sawyer was with Jessie in Confidence Man, right?


And the name LaFleur? Sawyer said “It’s Creole.” That fits with Louisiana, too.


All those clues to Apollo – he’s the Sun God. So we can link “Apollo” to that “House of the Rising Sun,” too.


And if we received some of these clues re: Louisiana from Sawyer, then is it Sawyer who links to this “house” in Louisiana? If so, then if his backstory is correct, maybe the “house” is a boys’ home? (I’ll have to delve into this further, as this is not the first time I’ve come across something that makes me wonder about some of these people meeting long ago in a home for boys. And with New Orleans, there might also be a link to Smoky as the result of cremating the bodies from the fuselage…hexes and witch doctors and the like. So lots of speculation that might actually turn out to be something once the pieces of this “New Orleans” puzzle begin to fit together. Anyway, jotting this down to look into at a later date.)


Desmond – he’s linked to the Apollo bar. We first saw the bar in the Swan Hatch, and we saw it again after that with Desmond in FBYE. So if Sawyer links to the “house,” and if he is really Desmond’s “mutual friend,” then maybe he and Desmond know each other FROM that “house” in Louisiana?


Just speculating. Because we really don’t know anything about Desmond’s childhood at this point. Still, he’s got quite the accent, so he’s a local in this experiment for sure, IMO. So maybe, if he lived in a boys home with Sawyer, he left when he was very young and has lived in Scotland most of his life? And then later they get in touch again, yada yada yada, who knows?




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And Sawyer, we can link this well-read guy to author Mark Twain via his name, “Sawyer.” But we can also link him in other ways as well, which I just realized.


Mark Twain -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain


According to Wikipedia, author Mark Twain was born in Florida, Missouri. And we’ve had clues to both states in this series. Tallahassee, of course…and that car Kate stole from the marshal had Missouri plates. And Twain’s father? He was a Tennessee country merchant. And when Twain was four, his family moved to…Hannibal, Missouri. Hannibal – could that clue link to Sawyer and NOT Ben after all?


And Missouri was a slave state and Twain incorporated that theme into his works, and we have the Black Rock, a boat that had transported slaves.


Twain educated himself in public library, which is something we can link to Sawyer as well, right? Books…and Claire’s mom was a librarian…and Sawyer’s mention of the Dewey Decimal System…and the clues I’ve mentioned that link to the Library of Congress classification system…


Steamboat pilot Horace Bixby influenced Twain to take on that profession, and hey, he did it in New Orleans.


Twain’s younger brother’s name? Henry.


Twain had foreseen his brother’s death in a very detailed dream he had. Dreams.


The boat Twain’s brother Henry was working on had exploded. The name of that boat was Pennsylvania. Kate’s mug shots were taken in Pennsylvania.


Twain was guilt-stricken and that is a feeling that plagued him the rest of his life.


And that led to Twain’s interest in parapsychology, the study of psychic abilities, precognition, and telekinesis. I mentioned this upthread already regarding Juliet.


And parapsychology studies have included random number generators. (And some state lotteries have gone to using RNG instead of balls, etc.) Lottery.


Twain was a member of the non-profit agency, Society of Psychical Research. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society...hical_Research The SPR was started in the U.K. Two of the group’s founders have the first name “Edmund,” as in the name of Juliet’s ex-husband.


Twain had another brother named Orion, which is also a constellation often called “The Hunter.” Stars, astrology, and of course the hunter part reminds us of Locke.


Orion worked for James Nye, the governor of Nevada. “James.”



Twain worked as a miner. The Black Rock was a slave ship on its way to a mining colony. (coal mines…Edinburgh, Scotland.)


“The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County” was the first tall tale he wrote. (Sawyer and that island frog…)


Twain married his friend Charles’s sister, Olivia. Both of those names can be linked to LOST – Charlie, of course, and Horace’s first lady, Olivia, the Dharma teacher.


Twain wrote the book A Time Traveler in King Arthur’s Court about an American time traveler who used his knowledge of science to introduce modern technology to the people of that era. So Twain was credited for being a first in the science fiction genre.


Twain was awarded a Doctorate in Letters from Oxford University, the same institution where Daniel supposedly worked.


Twain authored the Prince and the Pauper, about two boys, born on the same day, who are physically identical. Twins. And we could also link the word “Prince” in the title to the episode title The Little Prince.


Twain wrote about Joan of Arc – Joan Hart was Kate’s alias in BTR. (Which has always been suspicious to me due to that letter, and Sawyer’s affinity for writing letters…writing…could Sawyer be an author?)


He wrote about James Fennimore Cooper. “Cooper” – the name of Locke’s daddy, and the guy who supposedly swindled Sawyer’s parents.



Twain’s unfinished work is The Mysterious Stranger, which is a story about morality and the human race. Sound familiar? That conversation between Mr. Black and FakeJake at the beginning of last season’s finale episode.


And get this…the number “4” that links to Sawyer, duality of self…as in the waking self and the dream self…

The third version, called No. 44, The Mysterious Stranger: Being an Ancient Tale Found in a Jug and Freely Translated from the Jug, returns to Medieval Austria and tells of No. 44's mysterious appearance at the door of a print shop and his use of heavenly powers to expose the futility of mankind's existence. This version also introduces an idea Twain was toying with at the end of his life involving a duality of the "self", one being the "Waking Self" and the other being the "Dream Self". Twain explores these ideas through the use of "Duplicates", copies of the print shop workers made by No. 44. This version contains an actual ending, however the version is not considered as complete as Twain would have intended.

“Duplicates,” eh? So will we find out that everyone has a duplicate on that “island?”


Is Bryden back to there being two Jack’s again? Son of a …!! (Sorry, Dann. Where IS Dann, by the way? He's missed. )


Anyway, apparently Twain’s biographer, Albert Bigelow Paine, continued this work by Twain, and here’s what we can link to LOST:


A few boys are living in the Austrian village of Eseldorf. Esel means “donkey” in German. Donkey wheel.


And whoa! Check this out…pretty dark, but the subject matter would form a pretty good basis for a social/psychological experiment, wouldn’t you say? So might this have been an inspiration for LOST? Dreams…insanity…religion...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mysterious_Stranger


Strange, indeed, that you should not have suspected that your universe and its contents were only dreams, visions, fiction! Strange, because they are so frankly and hysterically insane - like all dreams: a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell - mouths mercy and invented hell - mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him! . . .

You perceive, now, that these things are all impossible except in a dream. You perceive that they are pure and puerile insanities, the silly creations of an imagination that is not conscious of its freaks - in a word, that they are a dream, and you the maker of it. The dream-marks are all present; you should have recognized them earlier.

It is true, that which I have revealed to you; there is no God, no universe, no human race, no earthly life, no heaven, no hell. It is all a dream - a grotesque and foolish dream. Nothing exists but you. And you are but a thought - a vagrant thought, a useless thought, a homeless thought, wandering forlorn among the empty eternities!

The narrator in the story above is August Feldner. August/Virgo clues in LOST. And he’s a 16-year-old printer’s apprentice. Sixteen years…and we’ve had clues linking that number to Locke.


And regarding Twain, he was once thought to be lost at sea aboard the vessel, Kanawha. The name of the freighter in LOST is the Kahana.


In conclusion – names, they DO mean something and they ARE a good source for clues. And how many of these Twain findings can we link to both the series AND this theory? Pretty much all of them, especially if we look to the very first element of this theory, that the island we see the Losties on is not real. Make believe; a dream state...a place they only visit while in a semi-conscious state, a particular state of mind.


I think we can see so much from Twain that inspired the writers regarding the Sawyer character and the very premise of the series. But do we take that a step further and wonder again if maybe Sawyer’s involved in this experiment? Is Sawyer Mr. Black, the guy who believes that man is inherently bad? But if Sawyer is the dark side, then why the clues to white when he’s around? So if he's involved, he could potentially be with Team White. And if Sawyer is one side…dark or light…who’s the other side? Jack? Locke? Man of Science, Man of Faith…


For me, it’s information overload at the moment. So I'll rest this for now and return to it later.


Well, kind of. Like I said, I have more. Continuing on the next post.

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[Bryden]

http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums...sos-cap290.jpg

I think it’s good to remind ourselves again of that faith healer Rose went to visit in SOS, as this theory fits with that whole scenario. This magazine with Rose and Bernard came to us as a clue via the writers way back in S2, and has been further supported by the story since then. And look in that advertisement where it mentions healing by the touch of hands. FakeJake touched hands in that finale, remember? Gotta love how this is all coming together.


But here’s the kicker here, and it’s huge, IMO, as it goes to the very essence of this theory – that this “island” is a state of mind, a journey of self-discovery, a therapeutic tool used by psychologists/psychiatrists, the Society.


The songs in the series are of course clues; we know that by now. And a couple of them have been driving me nuts…the Mama Cass ones with both Michael and Desmond. ( “Make Your Own Kind of Music,” and we also had “It’s Getting Better Every Day.”)


But I finally figured out the problem I was having -- I was looking to the lyrics for the clues, when all along it was the name of the artist that was the clue. The artist is the same for both tracks, so that's what should've jumped out.


But it was this screen cap from Lost Media that jumped out at me first instead, and only then did I make the above connection to Cass Elliott and those songs featured in the series.



Issac’s name is spelled with two s’s and if you spell it backwards, it becomes “Cassi”… And of course that note talks about feeling better, which is the subject of that Cass Elliott song. So who signed that note? Can anyone make that out?



So those music clues were probably referring back to “Cass” Elliot, which was our cue to place a big ol’ asterisk next to this Issac guy’s name, and more importantly for the theory, his profession. Faith healer.


More to come on this, as I have something I’ve been sitting on for awhile because I wasn’t really sure, and now I think I may have been onto something after all, so I'll post it.



But I've just got to mention -- look at this Issac guy; who does he look like? And with all the crutches and wheelchairs all over Issac's place in Australia...

[julio]

Bryden if you see the ticket that sawyer is holding you can see that it is the same picture (golden gate bridge) as the one near the thank you note to Issac that you posted.
Could their be a connection there ?







How similar do they look alike , just a few moments before killing everyone!

[Selah]

bryden- i am absolutey amazed at all the connections you have been posting and quite keen on the fact that most of the survivors are connected to Sawyer in some way or another. me being a huge fan and all

the new orleans bit, the house of the rising sun...it makes me think that he knows more than he's letting on. what if he's one of the puppet masters all along? yes, he may have been bribed/conned/threatened, but the clues are pointing to the fact that he's more than meets the eye. and i'm starting to believe he's the fuel to the fire. i feel as if he's been "planted" there or staged and he's playing this role of the loner, antagonist, catalyst to keep everyone within his grasps- or within his own puppet master's reach


and just in case you didn't know...Spoiler: episode 6,8 "Recon" (Sawyer-centric) I can't wait.


LOVE it.

julio-nice catch with the golden gate bridge photos! and carrie/juliet? how eerily similar do they appear?! another shout out to bryden's theory on juliet. she's going to flip

[Bryden]

julio, excellent! Yes, a definite connection between Carrie and Juliet in this LOST story. This is going to be one of my favorite reveals next season. And leave it to you, julio to find that bridge in Sawyer’s hands. Outfreakingstanding! I’m looking at Issac’s board and I’m looking at the bridge and I’m thinking that TPTB WANT us to notice that photo and make something of it. And here you make the link that I think we’re supposed to make. Locke’s dream in Further Instructions. The question is, now where do we go with this clue?



Selah, like you, I’m a huge Sawyer/Josh fan, and I’m all for him playing a major role in the big mystery, especially if it shows off what I see as this character’s ability to be intelligent and cunning. I PREFER him intelligent and cunning, street smart, book smart...outsmarting. His scene with Jack in Namaste, where he talks about thinking and reading before acting, was hands-down my favorite scene of the entire season. THAT is exactly how I envision Sawyer under those circumstances and I think it’s the guy we were introduced to back in Season One. Sawyer's up to something, no doubt, as was evidenced in all that happened post-LaFleur last season, including the clue in young-Sawyer's letter. "and I know..." But I don't think he's BEEN aware all this time, except about the Others. I don't think Sawyer caught on about the "island" until LaFleur. I'm not sure if he caught on to Juliet as "Carrie" then, too,, or sooner.



But that said, I'm not convinced yet that Sawyer's behind this whole experiment. For me, the Duckett con is more believable and fits with what I see as genuine surprise and frustration and aggravation from Sawyer over some of the weird happenings on that "island." I think the "Twain" links may be more about identifying Sawyer AS Sawyer and may link to POV as well. Just a hunch at this point.






The more the writers use clues to “Twain,” the more I think Sawyer’s real name may BE Sawyer.


I still say his name is not James Ford. The question now is, if I'm right, how will the writers reveal that Sawyer is not really James Ford? Will they show us the real James Ford and that’s how we’ll know? Or will we find out Sawyer’s real name and that's how we'll know for sure?



But I’ll tell you what Sawyer’s name is NOT -- it’s not Willie. Someone else is “Willie.” Shotgun Willie.


From WHH:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/What...ned_transcript


HORACE: We've only got three janitors. There's Roger, Willie and, uh, that new guy. I just met him. His name's Jack.

Okay, so who is Willie? I’ve mentioned him in here several times, with clues to him going all the way back to S1 and the dead in the fuselage. And we know Willie is relevant, somebody important, because he was hinted at by the song in the very first episode of S5.



Is Willie someone we already know, and if so, who? Who is unaccounted for or has a job as “workman” that we’re unaware of?



Bernard stayed on the beach, and I wouldn’t think he’s trekking in unnoticed to play janitor. We assume Frogert died from the flaming arrows. The O6 are all accounted for, so who else could it be? Somebody new? Or maybe it’s somebody we’ll find out is on the “island,” but we didn’t know they were on the “island”? Christian? Abaddon/Jacob? I think if Ethan is Willie, he would’ve been noticed. The same goes for the other Others who’ve come and gone from this experiment.




I’m REALLY liking the idea of Christian as Willie and here's why:

1. Jack and daddy would have the same DI job, “workman.” So off the "island" they're surgeons, and on it they're both janitors. A clue, maybe.
   
   
   
   
2. The "Shotgun Willie" song lyrics are that Willie's got “all of his family there.” We've got Christian, Jack and Claire on that "island."
   
   
   
   
3. Christian as a "workman" puts him on that "island" at one time, someone involved in this experiment. And that's what we've previously speculated.
   
   
   
   
4. We've seen Christian with Jack, Locke, Sun and Claire on the "island." So whether Christian was real or an image from tape, we don't yet know. But if he's "Willie," that means he was in this experiment at one time, time enough to GET him on film, if they wanted to.
   
   
   If Christian is/was an alcoholic and needed the "island" therapy then, as Jack does now, then he would have a reason to be in the "island" therapy before, and the opportunity to father a child that may be Claire. So all of this adds up for me.
   
   
   
   
   
5. Christian tied to the "island" would support my spec that he's also tied to Sawyer ending up on that "island." Because without coaxing from Christian, I don't think Sawyer would've gone through with the plan to shoot Duckett.
   
   
   And if Sawyer was really on that "island" in 2003, as I'm speculating, then that would mean he met Christian in 2003.
   
   
   And if Christian is really dead off that "island," then he could be dead by the time Jack finds him in 2007.
   
   
   Works for me.
   
   
   
   
   
6. If Christian is "Willie," then to learn that in this final season would be fantastic and a perfect way to round out Jack's story. Jack would get to deal with Christian one last time...on the "island," in this therapy program.
   
   
   
   
7. I still maintain that the TTLG flashforward with Jack was truthful. I think that after all of this is over, Jack will want to return to the "island," only he won't be able to. And with this "Willie" speculation, I think we might find out that one big reason Jack wants to return is that he wants to see his father.
   
   
   So...if Christian is "Willie" and Jack does meet up with Christian on the "island," then I say there's a good chance Jack's going to screw up that meeting and later, at the end of this when the therapy is no more, Jack will want to go back to that "island" and try again, try to make things right with his dad. But by then it'll be too late.
   
   

The more I think about the "Christian as Willie" stuff, the more I like it and the more it makes sense as a LOST kind of twist.

• The Wonka movie receipt came to us as a clue via one of the dead from the plane. So Wonka, and therefore the name "Willie," as in "Willy Wonka," links to the Oceanic Flight 815. So with this clue, we're in the plane, and so continuing on the path to solving that clue means the answer is in that plane.
  
  
  
  
  
• I think it makes sense to look at the seat assignments again, since we've already identified issues there, especially with Jack's seats.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• As I mentioned upthread, we heard Jack give two seat assignments for himself, and yet he's only one person.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• We know that if a guy wants to buy two seats instead of one, then he can do that,, and we know that happened at least once in this plane because it happened to Hurley. He was told he had to buy two seats due to his size. So we have a clue here...two seats for one person, IMO.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• We didn't see anyone sitting next to Jack, and yet we heard Jack give his seat as 23B and then as 23A. And we heard about Wollstein in "C." So other than Jack, we have no name for anyone else for his two seats.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Jack might've purchased both seats...both 23A and 23B.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• The flight attendant told Jack that without the proper paperwork, dead Daddy Christian wasn't allowed on that airplane. Later, we see Jack DID get on that plane. So what's the conclusion we reach? He either got the paperwork he needed, or he never took Christian's body on that plane.
  
  
  And yet...we saw the casket.
  
  
  But it was an EMPTY casket.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Jack bought two tickets, is my guess...but because he didn't need two seats, there was one extra.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• With the purchase of two tickets and a wallet with ID's, maybe Jack was able to get both his and Christian's name on that manifest. (Christian left his wallet in that hotel room in Sydney.)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• I think we need to look at the possibility that Christian's body was never on that plane.
  
  
  That empty casket Jack found in WR may be a reminder to Jack of just why his father's death is bothering him so much...he never brought the body onto the plane, but instead planned to hand over to his mother an empty casket. It's either Jack stressing over what he did or it's the Society reminding him of what he did.
  
  
  
  I know this sounds harsh, but really, what's the alternative? The flight attendant said the body couldn't come aboard, Jack is stressed for time, and the last we saw of Jack pre-flight was him sitting in the airport bar drinking with Ana-Lucia, much like we see of his father at a later date. So if Jack needed paperwork, then the flight would've had to be put off for him, and he wasn't willing to do that. And it's not like he can get the paperwork at the airport, right?
  
  
  
  And if Jack was able to get Christian's body aboard that plane in any way, shape or fashion, and Christian is really dead, then why would Jack have two seats and why would we see an empty casket for Christian and all the references between Jack and Christian and death with no burial?
  
  
  
  
  
• Also -- if Christian's body was stowed anywhere on that plane, then we can assume by now that he was cremated like the rest of the bodies they found onboard. Why? Because Jack didn't want to take the time to "sort out everyone's god."
  
  
  And if Jack needed to dispose of Christian's body at the airport and return home with an empty casket, then maybe he sent Christian's body for cremation, something that maybe was against Christian's wishes? Then Christian shows up to Jack as Smoky...? "Ashes are evidence."
  
  
  
  
  
• And what did Jack say to Kate about the marshal's body? "I needed to bury him."
  
  
  And why? Because maybe he feels that makes up for never taking the time to do it right for his father...
  
  
  
  
  
• In the FF, Jack has no body to bury at Christian's memorial service. Between that and the empty casket Jack found in WR, and Jack not bothering to put the proper shoes on Christian's dead body, I think we're seeing a pattern of behavior here with Jack in the handling of Christian's dead body.
  
  

Okay, yes, I'm really liking this. LOST meets Stephen King meets Weekend at Bernie's, meets the janitor in Nightmare on Elm Street meets...






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Back to that wall at Issac’s place...


What if the cursive name at the end of that note is “LaFleur”? I see an “L” and an “f” in cursive.


http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums...sos-cap479.jpg


My guess is that the letter was written by an adult for a child. And then the adult signs it and the child scribbles their name as best they can.



Also – Look at the envelope on the left side of the written note we’ve been talking about. Now, the envelope may/may not have anything to do with our particular letter, but it’s still a clue, IMO, as the camera allows us to get in close enough to see at least part of it. Strangely enough, it appears to not be addressed to anyone named “Issac,” but is instead addressed to “Miss Cheryl…” I can’t make out the last name. And if you look to the return address field, you see “APO San Francisco.” A military address. So whoever sent that letter did so from a military installation that uses that particular APO. And do my eyes deceive me or are those THE numbers on the top row of the return address? “4 8 15…23…”?



Kate might have had an APO address at one time, or Sam would’ve, if he was writing from Korea. And we know from Kate that Sam was stationed in Korea.



The kid in that photo looks like Sawyer to me, but it’s the blonde hair and the eyes that make me say that, and little else. I’m not sure what other Lostie that might be, if it is a Lostie, unless it’s maybe Locke. It’s an old photo, don’t you think, judging by the kitchen? So it could be Locke, I guess. Or Charlie? We need to be able to place the photo with something else on that wall in order for it to make sense as a clue. Maybe we don't have enough information yet?



And do you see the name “Mike” or “Diane” in the return address field of the envelope? Just wondering.



I think the important thing about Issac’s wall is what we ARE able to see. The camera zoomed in on that wall for a reason.



And I forgot to mention in my earlier post how you can bet this “Cassi” links to “Cassidy,” who Sawyer even called “Cass” on occasion. COUNT on it. But if "Cassidy" was made up by someone other than Sawyer, then this could get confusing. Although as julio pointed out, it was Sawyer Locke saw in his dream holding that bridge photo...



IMO Cassidy is Kate's concoction. More to come on that if it fits with these new findings.




ETA:

Enter Sandman, by Metallica -- I was playing this song last night and was immediately reminded of LOST. "Sleep with ONE EYE open..." http://www.amazon.com/Enter-Sandman/dp/B0011Z51VQ




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http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/What...ned_transcript


HURLEY: Aha! I can't shoot you. Because if you die in 1977, then you'll never come back to the island on the freighter 30 years from now.

Wait – 30 years from NOW? And "now" is supposed to represent 1977? Is Hurley implying that Miles and the freighter folk actually show up in 2007 instead of 2004?


Yes, I think that is EXACTLY what Hurley is implying.


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First, the camera zooms in on this can placed on the shelf by Rose in SOS. And next comes the can of carrots.






So green and orange...


We've already speculated in here many times that orange links to Locke's POV. So this could be another link to support julio's bridge photo clue that's found in both SOS and Further Instructions. A Locke POV. But what about the links I already made to Jack in the SOS R&B flashback? Are we hearing from two POV's here?



Or, maybe we're supposed to look at these cans together, as a pair, a couple much like Rose and Bernard?


The colors together as a clue led me to this Irish folk song. And with the name "William" in the lyrics, of course I'm liking it and wondering if this is the correct connection. If it is, then there may be more "Willie" clues sprinkled throughout the series that we've missed. (Of course Jack's "golden ticket" in the TTLG FF would be considered one, too, IMO. )

http://www.thebards.net/music/lyrics...nd_Green.shtml


My father was an Ulster man, proud Protestant was he.
My mother was a Catholic girl, from county Cork was she.
They were married in two churches, lived happily enough,
Until the day that I was born and things got rather tough.
Baptized by Father Riley, I was rushed away by car,
To be made a little Orangeman, my father's shining star.
I was christened "David Anthony," but still, in spite of that,
To me father, I was William, while my mother called me Pat.

Okay, so if the clue leads to this song about orange and green, then what do we make of it? What’s the message to us from the writers? The religious aspect, torn between the religious affiliations of two parents? Or might it be the names?


David Anthony – In LOST we have Desmond DAVID Hume.

William – Shotgun Willie from the BYL song, and Willie Wonka from that receipt in S1...


I REALLY think we need to figure out who "Willie" is. And if in this story he's the Dharmaville janitor back in 1977, then that doesn't mean he has to necessarily be someone we already know. But that said, I am expecting S6 to cough up some serious reveals, instead of continuing to introduce new characters and raising even more questions.



My Christian spec above is just one guess for Willie, but I think there are several more possibilities at this point. Now that we know "Willie" is on the "island" in '77, we can look for clues that may identify him.



What's tough is, IS his real name "Willie" or is that just the name he's calling himself on that "island"? Like the song goes, the guy was christened one name, but called another by his parents... (Also sounds like Sawyer, only he's busy with security in '77, so I'm not buying him as janitor or going by two names/identities. The DI aren't the brightest bunch, but still...)



Also -- if it's not really 1977 on that "island," and Sawyer's already met Christian and Christian is going by the name "Willie" the janitor, then I would have to believe Sawyer would recognize him as Jack's dad. But Sawyer hasn't said a word or implied anything of the sort to Jack. And while that's not totally unusual, IMO, given the animosity between these two men, it is a little hard to believe that Christian/Willie has been able to stay out of Jack's sight since the O6 returned. But then how many days has it been on that "island" since the O6 came back? Only a few, right? So it's possible they may still run into one another. And if memory serves me, the last we saw of Christian, he was in "2007" with Sun. So when applying this theory, I would argue that if Christian is Willie, then he's busy elsewhere in this experiment and that's why Jack and Sawyer haven't seen him.





Some Willie guesses:


Christian -- still a strong "candidate" for Willie, IMO. It would explain so much, IMO. And if Christian's body has never been seen since Jack identified it, then all we have to go on is an empty coffin and Jack in therapy. So we may find out that Christian was never dead in the first place, but only temporarily paralyzed like Nikki and Paolo, or like that girl with Eko and that scary autopsy. So when applying this theory, I think that Christian's either dead and on Jack's mind and therefore in this therapy by way of whatever gadgets the Society uses, or else Christian is not dead and is showing up because he's involved with the Society in some way, maybe as a former patient.




Abaddon/Jacob -- he's involved, very involved, IMO. If everyone's pretending to be in the 70s, it's believable to me that he would pretend to be there, too. We've seen Widmore and Ben, but no Abaddon yet. And as he told Locke, he's not JUST an orderly. Plus, it works in his favor that he's been on a journey of his own before.




Frank Lapidus -- he might be an actor, so an assumed identity, playing a guy named "Willie," would be just another day at the office for Frank. And if the Willie link here is anything like "Wonka," then expect the unexpected, IMO. Pure imagination and all that. Who you think is nobody might actually BE somebody, somebody important. So while Frank seems harmless enough, he does keep coming back in the story, he's a pilot, he's someone who can apparently find this place (Shaman?), and Ilana called him a "candidate."

[julio]

Bryden , you re last post really made me think.Specially the part about willie
Another character that could fit willie IMO is Thomas.About that part that you said about his family being in the island, Thomas has his son in the Island, clair an probably his father ,possibly Ben,Richard or Wilmore. He could make the connection to show that they are in 2007 and not in 1977(it would be a good way IMO ) and he has his paintings in wilmore's office and to make a link to why aaron is so special (maybe some kind of loophole ?).

Now a picture of sawyer in Long Con.



Do you noticed does 3 rabbits in the desk , if you closely you will noticed that the last one is staring at Sawyer.Could that be a clue to charlie or locke?Or looking glass ?, like if sawyer was looking at them all?

[julio]

Now a picture of sawyer in Long Con.