Bryden's theory on everything/mental institution

[Bryden]

Confidence Man


In the flashback, Jess tells Sawyer that it’s 3:28 and he has a meeting at 3:30.


A clue? If we look at 3:28 backwards, it links to the Bible. (And we’ve had other number clues that when reversed link to the Bible, so this would not be unusual, and this clue may have actually been one of the first to link this way in the series.)


Exodus 8:23 -- I will make a distinction between my people and your people. This miraculous sign will occur tomorrow.



It’s Oct. 1 in Confidence Man on that “island.” So “tomorrow” would be Oct. 2.



Danielle -- SHE shows up “tomorrow.” So she may be one of “my people.” In CM, Sayid leaves the beach camp after torturing Sawyer. He ends up hanging in a tree due to one of Danielle’s traps. So we meet Danielle in that very time period referenced by the CM clue. I don’t believe that’s a coincidence; I believe it was planned. The clue links to Danielle, IMO.


Several of us have speculated all along that Danielle is an Other. IMO, she's a perfect example of how the Others, the psychologists, manipulate the happenings, appearance, etc. of that "island." Danielle only shows up when necessary, doesn't she? She drives the story, turns it in different directions, gets the Losties to be concerned about one thing or another, gets them to where they they need to be for the challenges, provides them with information that affects their decisions, their choices... It was Danielle who said there was a sickness, it was Danielle that said there were Others, and it was Danielle who first identified Ben as an Other, One of Them, which sent Sayid into “torturer” mode and caused friction between himself/Locke…and Jack. It was also Danielle with the black smoke and the Black Rock, and the dynamite and the maps... Danielle with that broadcast that alerted the Losties to the existence of a French Woman...



So here we have a clue from a Sawyerback that links to there being a distinction between the Losties and others on that "island." So even before we find that out ourselves in the story, here’s a clue from the writers telling us exactly that. And that is a trend…clues from the writers to future happenings…that continues as the series goes on. In this thread, we’ve previously been able to predict happenings (Daniel and the gas, for instance) based on the writers’ clues. Just another example, IMO, of how the writers keep the audience in the loop and how there is more than one level of storytelling going on.



Anyway, this clue provides a link between a FB and an “island” happening. And that is huge, IMO. Two worlds colliding...a connection between the past and the “island,”…just as we would expect if this is therapy and this theory is correct. We’re not watching the FB’s AS they happened; we’re watching them NOW as the Losties are recalling them, even sort of reliving them...or they're being played out as someone else believes they played out for a particular Lostie. They’re as much a part of this journey as the “island” and the flashforwards. And this would not be the only time a FB provided a clue to the “island” happenings. Look no further than Jack’s pager/clock in ATOTC. It was the link not only to the current time on that “island”…morning, breakfast…it provided us with a link to the book of Matthew in the Bible, the issue of false prophets and wolves in sheeps' clothing.


Now I’m wondering if that was our first clue that Juliet is evil, someone to watch out for instead of someone to peg as a good guy. I’m telling you, there's a great chance that Juliet’s a bad egg. She’d go right down that same chute as Veruca Salt. Hey, Juliet DID go down a sort of chute, didn’t she? “Oompa Loompa doopadee doo, I’ve got another puzzle for you…”



The CM clue…is there a particular reason WHY this clue would show up in a Sawyerback? It’s talking about “my people,” after all. So who is the person behind the “my” reference? Are we to assume Sawyer is the “my,” as in Danielle is someone who works FOR him, his subordinate? After all, when Locke was the acting “leader” of the Others this past season, HE called the Others “my people,” right? Or does the “my” merely imply that Sawyer and Danielle belong to the same group of people, and that group is not the same group made up of survivors of that so-called plane crash?



Or does the clue come from someone else altogether, maybe “Jacob,” and it just so happened to have appeared in a Sawyerback?



Since CM, there have been many clues that point to Abaddon as the mysterious “Jacob,” leader of the Others, so I don’t believe that Sawyer is “Jacob” or that Sawyer is the leader of the Others. I don’t believe that was the intention of that CM clue. I think the intent may have been to show that there IS another group of people on that “island,” and hey, Sawyer is one of them and not one of the Losties. Because if we look at all the clues we’ve received in the past five seasons, then I tend to think the “my people” must have something to do with Sawyer or else it wouldn’t have shown up in his FB.



So for whatever reason, the distinction between “them” and “us” links to Sawyer here, IMO, and apparently Danielle is grouped with him. And as the story goes, Danielle was NOT on that airplane. So Sawyer was probably not on it either, not if he's in a group with Danielle.



As I’ve stated upthread, I think the Duckett murder was probably a con and the people behind the “island” experiment used it to blackmail Sawyer into participating on their side in this experiment. I think there's a great chance that Sawyer never really was an Oceanic 815 survivor. He had the manifest…he had a lot of things…so he could’ve simply chosen the name "James Ford" from the manifest and adopted it as his own real name. We saw him with wallets and such. All he had to do was lift the identification before handing the wallets to Claire. James Ford lives to see another day, and some other wallet contains Sawyer's identification maybe, or else he still has his real identifcation documents? But why risk it? And where would he keep them? And why would he want his real identity known if a mob guy is after him for not paying back the money he owed him from that last con?


We should check to see which names where called out during that memorial service, since maybe one of THEM was not on the plane, but is actually Sawyer's real name, real identity. But then wouldn't someone be onto that by now, especially someone like Frank who memorized that manifest? But then only the Losties had that memorial service, so any name called out at that time, any identity that was buried, would only be known there and not in the real world. Frank would be none the wiser in that case. And Sawyer might've stood there and watched as his real identity burned in that fire along with all the rest of the wallets and such. But they burned the bodies, and we didn't see WHAT they did with the wallets and photos, etc. Maybe the BTR storyline with Kate having Joanna's passport was a clue that this type of identity stealing was going on? Hey, "identity!"



We know from S5 and Phil that Sawyer does not like to be called Jim/James. Again, the reason for that might be because James is NOT his real name. And if that is true, then everything and anything we’ve seen with his name on it SINCE then is false, a document or file created during this therapy experiment, either by someone in charge of the experiment or else it was fabricated by another Lostie in order to justify Sawyer’s story. For instance, if I’m Richard and I’m directing the story/therapy and I need Locke to kill his daddy once and for all…and Locke simply won't do it himself; we tried that angle already...then I will provide him with a person that can do it for him. So I hand Locke a file with the name James Ford on it…created just FOR this experiment. Locke takes the bait. And then Sawyer, still wanting to kill the guy who conned his parents, falls into yet another trap by the Others, killing Cooper. And at this point he thinks that what he's done is real, so he's just dug that hole he's in a little deeper. He believes he can't ever leave that "island."



Then Richard and Team Immorality are patting themselves on the back -- they just proved that given the opportunity to murder, these two men WOULD do just that, whether they do it themselves or have someone else do it. This type of psychological testing and the competition to see which theorist is correct appears to be one reason FOR the challenges. As Desmond said, the Losties are playing pieces, moved around on the board by the people playing this sort of game with their lives and emotions.



Giving them choices, and then seeing what they'll do -- even Locke commented on this issue back in Season One.

LOCKE (regarding giving Charlie his drugs):… If I did that you wouldn't have a choice, Charlie. And having choices, making decisions based on more than instinct, is the only thing that separates you from him [indicating the boar].

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Regarding Danielle – I think it’s important to note how her stories don’t jive. I briefly mentioned this upthread, but here it is in more detail.


(Transcript excerpts courtesy of Lostpedia. http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Transcripts)



April 23, 1988


This is supposedly the date of Danielle’s message, as figured by Sayid in TR.

Sixteen years. And five months. That's the count. (17294535…)

February 1988


(Solitary)


Danielle and her team supposedly end up on that island.

Our vessel was 3 days out of Tahiti when our instruments malfunctioned. It was night, a storm, the sounds. The ship slammed into rocks, ran aground, the hull breached beyond repair. So, we made camp, dug out this temporary shelter. Temporary. Nearly 2 months we survived here, 2 months before...


...Your distress signal? The message I heard...you said, "It killed them all."

So...two months prior to creating the distress call, Danielle and her team came upon the "island."




April 26, 1988


Alex’s birth date, if we go by what Danielle said to Alex in TTLG about her distress call.

I recorded this sixteen years ago. Three days before you were born. I guess we don't need it anymore.

BTW, this birth date would make Alex a Taurus. http://www.astrology-online.com/about.htm


So 3 days AFTER placing that distress call, Alex was born.




November 1988


(This Place is Death)

We sailed from Tahiti…. November 15th…1988…

This date provided by a supposed young Danielle conflicts with all the earlier references to her transmission and the birth and kidnapping of her daughter.


Here, this so-called Danielle places herself on the island much later than she previously said, and much later than Sayid deduced after listening to the distress call.


If Alex's birth date is correct at April 1988, and she was born on that "island," then there is no way Danielle arrived on that "island" in November 1988.



I believe this inconsistency is yet another inconsistency that may be explained by this theory. Not only is that “island” not real, but with POV at work here and time whatever the psychologists and patients need it to be, of COURSE there will be inconsistencies. And they're important, as not only are they a clue that all is not as it seems on that "island," and that the "island" isn't real, but they also give us clues to the identity of the character we're hearing from at any given moment, clues to POV.


Again, if we look to the date itself, 11/15, we know that links to Sun. And we know that because it has shown up more than once during the course of this series, and each time it linked to Sun. And it began all the way back in S1, when Sun was going to leave Jin at the airport and hop into a car at 11:15. Remember the woman helping her set up the escape? She had Sun repeat that meeting time over and over…What time? 11:15. And so then WE get that time drummed into our heads as well. And why? Because we need it in order to discern when we're hearing from Sun's POV in this LOST therapy story.


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julio, An asylum by the water...by the sea... And I would add "by a subway station or train station," too. Because something is making that sound we hear on that "island," if it's not the gates/doors or a cell or penitentiary. And we've had many clues to prison in this series, so it COULD be that and not any subway station.

I like the tiger reference, too. Because "A tiger don't change his stripes."


ETA:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Solitary_transcript

LOCKE: Ethan here has some experience -- spotted some tracks, looked like they might be rabbit or some other rodent.
HURLEY: Rodent, yum.
ETHAN: Figured people are starting to get tired of eating boar meat.

Rodent. Rat?



If so, then I think we should look back at that clue we received in One of Us. (Episode 3.16 yet again. )







Herarat Aviation -- and that logo almost appears to be pointing right AT Ethan, doesn't it?


Her a rat -- While I still think that “rat” fits with Juliet’s allegiance to Ben at that time in the story, it may fit with Ethan as well, especially given what he/Locke said to Hurley in that quote above. They were talking rodents, which may have been a clue to rats. (And a rat may even be the symbol that represents a team in this therapy game they're playing. Rats, rabbits, boars...as mentioned already, they link to the zodiac and Chinese new years...)



Even the anagram of that word, “Herarat” may be unscrambled to become “Earhart,” as in “Amelia Earhart,” and the name “Amelia” links back to “Amy,” who is Ethan’s mother…



So that clue may be taken several ways, IMO, but since at least two ways link back to Ethan, I think it’s a good link to Ethan.



As I stated upthread, I think Ethan’s more of a player here than we first imagined. And he’s back, IMO, in whatever year they’re saying it is when Locke and the gang are in that temple. Ethan’s a force to be reckoned with; he may end up being the reason for much of what’s happened since Juliet showed up back in Season 3. We’ve heard both Tom and Ben at separate times referring to the Losties as responsible for the deaths of Others. They didn’t forget what the Losties did. And what did Colleen tell Sun in that boat? If Sun was to shoot one of them, then enemies is exactly what they would become.


So Ethan died way back in S1 and the Others forgave and forgot? No way, especially if he’s really Horace’s son.


And now he’s back. And now “they’re coming.” So the time may be coming for Ethan and the Others’ to judge the Losties for their actions, the choices they made during this therapy experiment. If so, then you’ve gotta love how the writers are taking all of this storytelling full-circle and how it reflects the very series that inspired it…Survivor.

[KennyRogers]

Bryden this theory is absolutely brilliant. It's taken me a week to get through it and probably another couple months to digest it all reread it again. I'm so glad I stumbled on to this and thank you for the unbelievable amount of work you have put in to this. You might want to consider becoming a detective.

I was thinking about the episode in either season 1 or 2 when they were building the raft to get off the island and Michael actually quoted a scene from the empire strikes back when he was talking to Jin. HE said "NOOO this one goes here, THAT one goes there!" which is a reference to Han Solo and Chewbacca while working on the millenium falcon. Point being, I'm guessing that if your theory is correct, then that episode was seen from Hurley's point of view as during the last season hurley was talking about rewriting the trilogy and then selling it to hollywood when he got back. Not sure where this takes us but I figured I'd throw it in there anyway.

[GivenToFly23]

Bryden,

I just read through some of your posts. About 3 pages worth, straight, for 20 minutes. For whatever it's worth: thanks for the effort, even if I can't figure out your overall theory. Apparently you (or "it", because I think you are obviously a robot) are a huge fan of the show.

I would pay $4.99 for the "Bryden's Notes of "Bryden's Overall Theory." Is the gist of it that: They are inmates on death row?

Originally Posted by KennyRogers

... I'm so glad I stumbled on to this and thank you for the unbelievable amount of work you have put in to this. You might want to consider becoming a detective ...

This quote made me post hahaha.

[Bryden]

^ I'm not an "it" or a "robot." As a matter of fact, I'm not even the subject of this thread.


And the gist of this theory in three pages or less? As with any theory, the best place to start is the very first page of the thread. I have an outline there.




KennyRogers, thank you for the kind words. Welcome aboard! I like your link to Star Wars, as I didn’t notice that in that episode. My knowledge of SW is at a pretty basic level. But I did read that Darth Vader might've suffered from Borderline Personality Disorder, so SW is always a cool link to this theory.


That SW script with Hurley makes twice in this series that we’ve had Hurley linked to a script (Exposé) -- three times if you count that Bad Twin manuscript he found. And a script goes with TV and movies…


So thanks for reminding us of that. More on that subject to come, as I should probably post what I've found and the links I've made between this theory, the series, and LOST being a TV series.



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Noteworthy -- It’s the dark side of the chess board that’s making a move at the same time LaFleur is walking in the background, heading for dinner with Juliet. So does Sawyer represent the dark team in this competition? Or are we just seeing his dark side?


If you ask me, the Paul/Amy/Horace triangle was meant to reflect the Sawyer/Kate/Jack triangle – Paul’s body being turned over to Richard, the other side, was what Paul would’ve wanted, Amy said, in order to keep "us" safe. I say ditto for Sawyer. He wanted to keep "us" safe.




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Nikki’s clue, “Ashes are evidence” – I think it might mean cremation. The Losties burned the dead bodies from the fuselage way back in Season One. Because as Jack explained, they didn’t have time to sort out everyone’s God.


Well, maybe they should have MADE time. Because I think the cremation of those bodies may be the link to the smoke monster. DID we see the smoke monster prior to them cremating those bodies? I don’t believe we did.


Eko burned that Nigerian plane and his brother…and then what? Yemi showed up AS Smokey, right? The writers establishing a pattern? A clue?


So during this journey of self-discovery, this experiment, the Losties chose cremation as a way to get rid of the supposed dead bodies. Choices…sometimes they come back to bite you in the butt, don’t they? They might've burned a faith healer, a witch doctor, a nun...


Bea Klugh...Be A Clue...has to fit in this story somewhere. Her role not yet defined, IMO.


That dad in SLIH hired Miles to talk to his dead son. His CREMATED son. He specifically said his son was cremated and that his son’s ashes were spread across a football field. Clue!


So maybe Nikki was right and ashes really ARE evidence? And we saw ashes just last season with Ilana at that cabin.


Miles...he said he came to get Ben. So what does that mean, if Miles was on that "island" to deal with Smoky? We SAW Ben flip the switch for Smoky. And Ben knows where to find Smoky...but does that translate to Ben IS Smoky? I just don't think so, but I could be wrong of course.


I speculated before that fire/ashes might indicate the presence of Sawyer, a smoker. I also speculated about Juliet and/or Amelia. But now I’m wondering if the ashes might instead have to do with someone who was cremated at the very beginning of this series…someone who was never memorialized and was never properly laid to rest. A stowaway, maybe?


Does Smoky HAVE to be someone whose name was on the manifest? There could’ve been a stowaway aboard that freakish airline. It’s not like anything about that “trip” was normal, right?


Juliet’s name wasn’t on the manifest. Frank made sure we knew that. And if other backstories are false, then Juliet’s trip to the “island” may be false as well. And as she told Hurley, she “had the day off” back when they were taken on the dock. So absenteeism is something familiar to us regarding Juliet.


But wouldn’t it be freaky if the smoke monster turned out to be a name we HAVE heard of before, a name that was also on the manifest? The real James Ford?


I mentioned in my last post that Sawyer might hate being called James for the simple reason that it’s not his name. If Sawyer was blackmailed into working for the Others and he’s been hiding out from that guy he owes money to, then Sawyer was already on that “island” at the time of the fake-crash and couldn’t have been on that plane or on that manifest. And Hurley was checking the names of the survivors and comparing them to the names on the manifest. So I’m thinking Sawyer is smart enough to take a name of someone that passed away, someone that was burned with the fuselage, someone whose wallet he grabbed while trick or treatin’. His real name may BE Sawyer, and the fake name is James Ford.


BTW, I went back and re-watched that part of the episode where they burned the fuselage. I could hear a few names, but only one male name, and Sawyer doesn’t come off to me as a “Harold Wexler.” He could be, I guess, but that would put him in seat 23 C, which would’ve placed him in the plane next to Jack, right? And we know he didn’t sit there, as we saw that part of the plane several times.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Exod...t_1_transcript


ANA LUCIA: I hate flying. And they stuck me all the way in the back of the plane where the wheels come down right under your damn feet. So where are you sitting?


JACK: [checking his ticket] 23B.

During the memorial service on the beach, Claire mentioned a receipt for some overdue videos.

• The Little Princess –
  
  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031580/
  
  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113670/
  
  Both versions I found of this movie are about a young girl who is placed in a boarding school while her father is away in the military. He ends up missing and then is pronounced dead. As a result of becoming penniless, the “little princess” becomes a servant at the school and is at the mercy of the mean headmistress. Until her father turns up again…very much alive.
  
  
  What’s particularly interesting in light of the findings in this thread, is that the name of one of the characters is Ram Dass. If you remember, that is the name the real-life Richard Alpert accepted for himself after a trip to India. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Dass What does that mean exactly? I’m not sure. Just pointing out the link to Richard.
  
  
  Also, the subject matter of the movie sure screams Kate, doesn’t it? Only if Kate's a fugitive hiding out on a farm in Australia prior to her flight to LA, then how/why would she rent those movies Claire mentioned?
  
  
  And last season there was an episode titled “The Little Prince.” Little Aaron was daddy-less. And Sawyer? He was MIA, even declared dead.
  
  
  But if Sawyer is the person who checked out those movies, then exactly how overdue WERE they, LOL? Because if I’m saying he’s been on that “island” for longer than the Losties, then HOW MUCH longer than the Losties? That poster on the wall in the pool hall linked to 2003. How long would a guy like Sawyer carry a receipt around in his wallet?
  
  
  
  
• Willy Wonka – the 1971 version, which I’m guessing we’re all familiar with by now. About an enchanted place where kids learn a lesson, and so do their parents. Hmmm…now HOW do we connect that to this “island” and this theory?
  
  
  The Johnny Depp version didn’t come out until 2005, so the video receipt must be for the older version of the movie. UNLESS…it’s later than 2005 on that “island” and the receipt is for the later date? We don’t know, as that information wasn’t provided to us, unfortunately. But like the princess movie, the Wonka’s are just different versions of the same story anyway.
  
  
  And hey – Willy Wonka… Shotgun Willie sits around in his underwear. Bitin’ on a bullet and pullin’ out all of his hair…
  
  
  Sawyer name possibilities at the moment, IMO: Sawyer. Willie. Shane.
  
  

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“La Vida Tacos” – that taco stand Miles ate at in SLIH. So… the Taco Life? Which is interesting, seeing as we’ve heard Taco "night" at least twice, with Hurley in the institution and with Kate in that I Do fakeback.


Taco - could it be a trigger, a code of some sort?




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Roger finds Jack cleaning a Dharmaville classroom in SLIH. He tells Jack about Kate donating blood to his son, Ben. This is important, IMO, because it’s after this conversation that we next see Jack having coffee with Juliet. Sure, it seemed like Jack was telling Juliet...and then Sawyer…about Kate’s run-in with Roger. But DID anything really happen with Roger? WAS there really a concern there with what happened with Roger and Kate? It seemed like a big pile of nothing to me. An over-reaction on Roger's part. So then why?


I say it may be because Roger needed a reason to run off to tell Jack that Kate donated blood to Ben. Blood. Kate's blood -- something I say Jack has been after for awhile.


So I think that while it first APPEARS like Jack is visiting Juliet because of Roger, we may find out that Jack was there to inquire about Kate's blood test.


Juliet, a supposed fertility doctor and Sawyer's current love interest, took Kate's blood. I don't think it's a stretch to find out that Juliet tested it.


And the result of the blood test?


We don't know. We don't even know yet if there really WAS a blood test. All we know is that soon after Jack had coffee with Juliet, Jack decided he must detonate the Jughead bomb and erase all that’s happened since the crash.


So yes, I still maintain that Kate is pregnant with Sawyer's child; she's been pregnant with his child since S3, and all the clues and even the story itself point in that direction.


ETA:


Have you ever been out to dinner at a Chinese restaurant and each person at the table reads their fortune cookie fortune aloud and has to end it with the phrase “in bed”? For instance, “You will have much to smile about today…in bed.” Anyway, it’s fun and it reminds me of what I'm about to do with this next speculation.


Again, this is just speculation based on the theory and is not the theory itself. I’m not saying I want this to happen or I think this will happen. I'm saying there are clues and this is one path to take when following them.


Like the fortune cookie game, take this theory…and then add “on TV.”


So we have the program LOST…and maybe it’s about another television program, which I’ll call Committed.

• Roles.
  
  
  You heard Sawyer way back in S1 – they all have roles, with Jack as the hero and Sawyer as the criminal, and so on… And remember, Walt said that the Others are pretending; they’re not who they say they are.
  
  
  
  The fact that there are roles on that “island” is already an element of this theory. If true, this spec would just mean placing more emphasis on the role of “actor.” I've already established that Frank Lapidus may be an actor. So this spec would mean that there are many more actors than Frank. But that doesn’t mean they’re ALL actors…and it doesn’t mean the actors are always acting, either. If Committed isn’t entirely scripted and/or the actors are as trapped in this therapy experiment as anyone else is, then we can imagine they'll adapt as well; they may go in/out of character.
  
  
  
  Desmond…a local boy, tucked away from his sweetheart? Or a thespian who stumbled upon the role of a lifetime? He DID once ask Widmore for a job, didn’t he?
  
  
  
  Jack -- is he really a doctor or does he just play one on TV? Is this an explanation for why his skills are inconsistent? If Jack’s an actor, did he go mad during the course of this series? Is he an actor who BECAME the character? Or once the series is over, does his life suck in comparison to the hero status he enjoyed on the series? Is that what sends him over the edge? Or is it the drugs?
  
  
  
  
  Sawyer, the heartthrob. Is it written into his contract that he has to be shirtless for so many minutes a season? This would explain the missing shirt…
  
  
  
  Charlie – the has-been rock star on a reality TV series. Like THAT hasn’t happened before, right?
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Oceanic Flight 815 was on its way to LAX. I think if a plane full of actors was heading somewhere, then LA would BE their logical, final destination.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Financing, production, logistics…
  
  
  I think it’s safe to say that a series like this, people trapped inside a psychological experiment, would never be green-lighted in Hollywood, especially if some of these people have no clue what they’ve gotten themselves into, or if they know what they’ve gotten themselves into, but they’re not allowed to leave when they want. Even the actors with scripts may have no clue from week to week what the series is really about or what is going to happen.
  
  
  So if Committed is not the norm for H’wood, then I think it makes sense that Committed might be created on the sly, miles away from LA, miles away from prying eyes.
  
  
  Widmore…he might have the financial strength to finance this little secret, wouldn’t he? And he lives in Great Britain, where I say this story is taking place. Daniel said that Widmore financed HIS project, so is it a leap for us to wonder if he financed Committed? I say no, it’s not a leap.
  
  
  The Experimental Social Psychology Society – are they series consultants? Or do they actually write the scripts/instructions, creating conflict/challenges…?
  
  
  
  
  
• Scripts
  
  
  As mentioned already, we’ve had clues to scripts. So what do we make of them? Because I think we HAVE to make something of them.
  
  
  Obviously a script is something an actor uses. And it supports the element of this theory that says that “island” we see isn’t real. A script might help us understand the ever-changing POV’s in this story. I think the question with this spec would be WHO gets a script, and is their script the same as everyone else’s script? Is it a true script or just instructions for their character? Is the script part of the gaming aspect of this series and this theory? For instance, did Sawyer get something that TOLD him to steal the guns away from Jack and Locke? And then what happens after that is totally unscripted?
  
  
  
  Scripts…nowadays, there’s even talk of scripted reality shows. So who’s to say you can’t have a reality TV series where some people are in-the-know, while others may be totally clueless and handling whatever comes their way? And it’s what this theory is saying is happening already…the Others, psychologists/therapists/etc. THEY know what’s going on, but many of the Losties may not know.
  
  
  
  And it’s not like there haven’t been shows about therapy and addiction on television, showing people at their most vulnerable moments. It’s the “If you build it, they will come” argument. Maybe as long as there’s an audience, there’s a series. So I would think a series like Committed would be pretty popular, for a variety of reasons. The audience…like this audience…would actually CARE about the participants and want to see them make it out and off that “island.” But does the Committed audience know it isn’t real? Are they, too, being conned? If so, where does the conning end in this sort of scenario?
  
  
  
  
  
• Remember Penny’s letter to Desmond back in S2? “These are dramatic times, are they not?”
  
  
  That word “dramatic” appears TWICE in her letter. A clue? You bet.
  
  
  
  
  
• Audience
  
  
  Nikki and Paolo were killed off because Darlton recognized that fans didn’t care for them. With this path of speculation, we now have to wonder WHICH audience Darlton was referring to -- the LOST audience or the Committed audience? Could there BE another audience?
  
  
  
  When Kate chose Sawyer over Jack back at the cages in Season 3 – Damon said that Kate chose the guy the audience wanted for Kate. I've always wondered HOW they knew who the audience wanted for Kate. I mean to ME Sawyer was the obvious choice, but not everyone feels the same way. So how would Damon be able to tell who the audience wanted for Kate? How would he know that, especially since not all fans discuss the series in the forums. So I think Kate's choice begs the question -- which audience was Damon referring to?
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Love triangles = ratings? Could the producers of Committed be playing them for all they’re worth for JUST this reason?
  
  
  
  If one or more of the participants in the triangle(s) is an actor, then what happens when someone really falls in love during all of this madness? Is there a danger of that person/people changing the direction and outcome of the story?
  
  
  
  
  
  
• What’s interesting here is that IF scripts are being tweaked and audience reaction is being taken into consideration, then that might mean Committed is already on the air.
  
  
  
  We saw Daniel watching that television broadcast about the discovery of Oceanic 815. How do we know THAT was real? How do we know ANY of the television news programs were real? They might’ve been as fake, as created, as the rest of Committed. And again, does the audience realize this stuff is fake or do they, too, believe it’s real?
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Stars.
  
  
  Lots of clues in the series to stars, astrology and the Zodiac.
  
  
  An actor may be considered a “star,” right?
  
  
  
  
  
  
• “Apollo” candy bar -- the famed Apollo theater?
  
  
  Theater = acting, make-believe, production
  
  
  
  
  
• Others wearing costumes/disguises, and Kate finding that theatrical glue…
  
  
  
  
  
  
• The characters with a variety of names/aliases…
  
  
  Different roles mean different names? And stage names.“Only back then, he was called Marvin Candle. Was that like, a stage name?" – Hurley
  
  
  
  
  
  
• So many clues to that “island” as a controlled environment...
  
  
  
  This might be a television series that’s shot primarily on a sound-stage.
  
  
  
  Sets, props… In this series, it seems TPTB have made certain we notice that some items ARE props, created FOR this production. Those things are made very obvious to us instead of them blending in and feeling natural. So they’ve got to be clues, IMO. What we DO with them is the real challenge, IMO.
  
  
  
  That beach…the action begins each time AFTER Jack makes the turn around that bush... And then other times the Losties are suddenly greeted by someone who pulls up to the beach in a canoe or something. I'm just saying that if the "island" was a real island, then there wouldn't be the feeling of a "stage" or action on/off.
  
  
  
  Rain on/off. Smoky on/off…
  
  
  
  As Daniel said…the light is scattered…
  
  
  
  Desmond sailing in circles…
  
  
  
  No hatch/cabin today, but there’s a hatch/cabin tomorrow, and then no hatch/cabin the following day…the same can be said for the island, since it, too, moved…or so we’re to believe…
  
  
  
  Upthread I mentioned the use of a “green screen.” Of course that fits this TV series speculation.
  
  
  The people behind Jack in WR…two actors on film walking, the tape repeating itself…
  

Out of room. To be continued on my next post...

[Bryden]

Continuing..."This theory...on TV"

• I’ve lost count of the number of clues we’ve had to “television” in this series.
  
  
  
  Pop culture references in LOST have included references to various television programs, including what happened in those programs. Sawyer and the Little House clean slate. And as Locke said, anyone who watches television knows how to improvise a slow fuse…
  
  
  
  Nash Bridges even shows up in the form of yet ANOTHER script, as seen in the woman’s hands during Exodus Part Two. (The credit for this find goes to Lostpedia. Excellent catch!) And yes, Carlton is one link between that series and LOST, but that doesn’t mean he’s the ONLY link. The script could BE the link. So that makes THREE scripts and one manuscript…
  
  
  http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums...spart1-757.jpg)
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Black and White…
  
  
  
  TV used to be filmed only in B&W.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• And then there was color TV, and the network logos reflected that…
  
  
  
  I think these colors in particular hint at U.S. network TV.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums...hitscap289.jpg
  
  
  The umbrellas, the towels…and notice the poster on that building. It looks to me like it reads “Watch.” (Watch…television?)
  
  
  (Jin's “watch” from S1...)
  
  
  
  
  
• The Eye…it may also lead us to network TV, one network in particular.
  
  
  CBS’s logo IS the eye. And notice the colors affiliated with this network, as far back as the Fifties.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBS
  
  
  Why CBS? That's the network for Survivor, one of the inspirations for LOST.
  
  
  
  
  
• Four toes on the statue…and 4 major U.S. networks, “The Big Four.” (ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_network
  

That’s all I have at the moment, but I’m betting there’s more. Again, I’m not saying this speculation is correct – I’m saying we should consider the possibility.




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http://lost.cubit.net/archives/2007/...heSun.php#more
Sawyer’s book in Exposé… Evil Under the Sun.

http://www.amazon.com/Evil-under-Sun.../dp/0425129608


From Publishers Weekly:


… Christie conveniently gathers all the characters in one hard-to-leave location, in this case, the Jolly Roger, a vacation hotel on the southern coast of England. One of the guests, a gorgeous, dramatic flirt, is strangled to death, and the famous detective Hercule Poirot who happens to be vacationing at the Jolly Roger, too sets out to solve the case. Each of the well-developed characters is suspect, and listeners will constantly be changing their bets as to whodunit.

I love the “vacation hotel” in England part. Because with all the clues to hotels in this series, I think it’s still very possible that the Losties are staying in what was/is a hotel. And I say they’re on the top floor or the roof…and they’re hidden.


And I noticed something regarding that auction house name we’ve seen twice, “Southfield’s” – it’s an anagram for “loft hides us.”


And as you know, a loft is an area on an upper level, an upper floor – and by definition in the U.K. it’s specifically the area on the top floor of a building, between the ceiling and the roof.

[kfree]

I believe it was the episode "Whatever Happened, Happened" where I thought it seemed very "Truman Show"-ish, especially when Kate drove up to Cassidy's house. Nothing felt real. At that point I started watching Lost as if there was an audience that we haven't met yet.
Just another thing I noticed, the plaque by the front door of Cassidy's home in that same episode read 'No solicitors' which is an anagram for 'it is long icon.' I realize the word icon is a little strange, but just remove the i, of course, and you have...it is long con. I found it very interesting that it would be by Cassidy's front door considering she was conned by Sawyer and then became a con artist.

[kfree]

I forgot to add this to my post: I believe this fits with your overall theory, Bryden, that this show is a long con and it won't be revealed until the end that the whole experience was not real.

[Bryden]

kfree, yes, something is definitely up here. All is NOT real and the audience doesn't have to look very hard to see that, IMO.


The Cassidy stuff WAS bizarro, wasn't it? That whole story felt off to me. Kate losing Aaron in a grocery store and then she packs it up and realizes she wouldn't be a good mother? Wha...? I still say Kate wasn't the POV there. I say it was most likely Jack.


That "no soliciting" sign IS interesting to me, too, whether or not it's an anagram. Because for whatever reason, someone in production decided Cassidy's home would have THAT sign out front. So the question is WHY. Maybe if it was the result of a Jack POV, then his character holds the answer to that question? Because nothing is left to chance in this series, IMO. Upthread I even linked Cassidy's street name to Jack. (Him in the shower in that episode. )




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http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Grea...its_transcript


CHARLIE: Liam, no. Mum gave you that. You're the first born. It was her father's and his father before that...


LIAM: And it's a family heirloom, and that's why we named the band after Dexter bloody Stratton. I know. But Charlie--let's be honest--we both know I'm a sodding mess. But you, you're different. You're gonna get married, have a family, a baby. I'll be lucky if I hit thirty.

Now we all know that the band’s name is Drive Shaft and not Dexter Stratton. So it must be a clue.


First, as I already mentioned upthread, a gaffe like this may tell us that Charlie…who WOULD know his own band’s name…is not the character telling Charlie’s backstory.


Second, a gaffe like this may be a clue by itself, with the names Dexter and Stratton meaning something.



I’ve been able to link both of those names to “Morgan.”



I don’t know about you, but I immediately linked the first name “Dexter” to that serial killer character on Showtime. That character’s last name is Morgan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_Morgan




“Stratton” also links to Morgan -- Stratton and Morgan motor companies, U.K.
http://www.strattonmotorcompany.com/morgan.php



But there’s one more clue that links to “Morgan,” and it goes all the way back to that NIP video that I previous linked to Juliet.


http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums...ortland555.jpg

That 1921 Liberty Silver Dollar – it’s known as a Morgan Silver Dollar.


Greatest Hits came AFTER Not in Portland and the Room 23 video. So with these clues to Morgan, are the writers establishing a link to that Room 23 video...and Juliet's POV?


I think that's very possible, especially since we already have the link to Juliet's POV by way of the “Carrie” Ann song at the pool in the Charlie FB. Her favorite book...Carrie, by Stephen King.


And I wonder if we’re supposed to be more than a little interested in the fact that Dexter…of the Morgan link…is a serial killer? Again, could JULIET be a murderer in the real world?

[vizzle]

mmmmmmmmm i have some catching up to do since my last visit. Which is more of a reflection on my enjoyment of season 5 as it is of this thread

[Bryden]

vizzle





I’ve been re-watching old episodes, in no particular order, so I have a hodgepodge of stuff to post.


This first find is exciting to me, as it supports something I’ve been speculating about for awhile now.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Brig_transcript

JULIET: [On tape] Ben, its six AM on Saturday morning. Kwon is pregnant, the fetus is healthy and was conceived on-Island with her husband; he was sterile before they got here...

Juliet GIVES us the specific day of the week here. A clue.

Juliet is attempting to figure out the date of conception (DOC) for Sun's baby. So of course we have to believe the date of the ultrasound is important. And according to Juliet, it's at the 90-day mark on that "island."


Juliet to Sun in DOC:

OK, you crashed here ninety days ago. The baby was conceived about eight weeks ago, so around fifty three days. You got pregnant on the Island.

So it’s 0600 Saturday morning when Juliet leaves Sun outside the medical hatch to go back inside to make Ben that taped message. And…it’s been 90 days since the crash.

• Weds., Sept. 22, 2004 is the supposed date of the “crash” and the point in the story where the audience was first introduced to this “island” experiment.
  
  
  
• Juliet says it’s been 90 days since the crash = so that puts Juliet and Sun in the medical hatch sometime after Sun went to bed on the night of Tuesday, Dec. 21, 2004. When they get to the hatch it’s dark outside, and of course this is the night Juliet walked into Sun’s tent and put her hand over her mouth and woke her up.
  
  
  
• By the time Sun/Juliet leave the hatch, it appears to be the next morning. We make that deduction because it's now light outside. So that would make it the following day, Weds., Dec. 22, 2004.
  
  
  
• Which does not jive with the “Saturday” Juliet said it was when making that recording for Ben. And we saw her make that recording, with Sun outside waiting, so again, we have to believe the logical order of this storyline is ultrasound first, Sun outside, and THEN Juliet makes the tape for Ben.
  
  
• So there is no way it’s the year 2004 when Juliet makes that tape.
  

If this experiment and the supposed “crash” began on Saturday, Sept. 22, 2007 instead…

• Juliet performing the ultrasound on Sun in the medical hatch 90 days after a 2007 “crash” puts Sun and Juliet in the medical hatch sometime Friday night, Dec. 21, 2007.
  
  
• Again, it’s daylight when they leave the hatch the next morning, so that would be Saturday morning. The day of the week Juliet noted when making the recording for Ben.
  
  
  
• So... the year 2007 fits with Juliet’s recording for Ben, but the year 2004 does not.
  
  
  
• We’ve had many clues to the number “7” in this series, and that could indicate the YEAR 2007. (And with all the clues to “6 months” in this series, I’m guessing that’s the length of time for this experiment.)
  
  
  
• And here’s the best part…if you do the math and figure out day 108 from a 2007 “crash” date, then what day do you come up with?
  
  
  I came up with January 8, 2008…or 1-08. Excellent, right?!
  
  

More on the date/timeline issue to come.




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I’m obsessed with figuring out who Sawyer really is -- what’s his real name, if it isn’t James Ford? (And it ISN”T James Ford, IMO.)


Also, where was the real James Ford sitting in that airplane? What’s HIS story?


And have there been clues to Sawyer’s real identity? If so, how can we tell if the clues are to HIM or if they’re just clues in general, clues to other things or other people?

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Brig_transcript

SAWYER: Why did you come back to get me?

LOCKE: I had to.

SAWYER: Why me! Why won't you do it yourself?

LOCKE: James, please!

SAWYER: Don't call me James! Why won't you do it yourself!

LOCKE: Because I can't! I can't!!! I can't do it! [Pants] That's why I came back for you.

After Season 5…by now…I think it’s pretty obvious that Sawyer doesn’t WANT to be called “James.” And one conclusion, the simplest, is that he doesn’t want to be called “James” because “James” is not his real name.


So then it’s back to Walkabout and that memorial service, as I believe that may hold the clue to Sawyer’s true identity, why he doesn’t like to be called “James.”


As I posted upthread, if you’re a conman and you’ve got the manifest…and you’re supposed to be someone who was on the plane, but you weren’t actually on that plane…then wouldn’t assuming the identity of a dead guy be your best option? I think so. You go trick-or-treatin’ and take a wallet off a dead guy, and you’ve also got the manifest, so then you choose that particular name from the manifest and the Losties are none the wiser. For now. Because once all of this is over, and/or the real James Ford shows up in a FB, then the jig is up and who Sawyer really is becomes one big question mark again.


And if Sawyer is not really James Ford, then of course that goes a long way to supporting this theory because we’ve SEEN files on “James Ford” and backstories with the name “James Ford” as well. It’s logical to assume that if his real name is not James Ford, then those documents are fake, as are the “James Ford” spinoff storylines/FBs.



Could his real name BE Sawyer? Maybe. He might’ve even taken the name from the real Mr. Sawyer, just like he said. He’s always answered to “Sawyer” and has yet to ask anyone not to call him Sawyer. So that leads me to believe “Sawyer” may BE his real name. We just don’t know for sure yet.



Also, from The Brig:

SAWYER: What's your name?

COOPER: Hmm?

SAWYER: Your name.

COOPER: A conman goes by many names friend. I've been Alan Seward, Anthony Cooper, Ted MacLaren, Tom Sawyer, Louis Jackson, and Paul...

“A conman goes by MANY names, friend.” So this reminds us that if Sawyer’s name isn’t “James,” and it isn’t “Sawyer,” then we’ve got our work cut out for us because the guy has probably had MANY names, with only one of them being real.


That final name Cooper mentions when he’s rattling off his previous aliases. I couldn’t believe I heard it right when watching this episode again, so afterwards, I made a beeline for Lostpedia and that transcript, and sure enough, I wasn’t hearing things. Cooper says the name “Paul.”


“Paul” just so happens to be the name of Amy’s husband, as introduced to the audience in LaFleur…an episode that certainly seemed to be about Sawyer, right?


And what did Amy…an Other, someone involved in this experiment…say about “Paul”?

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/LaFleur_transcript


HORACE: We've been friends for a long time, yeah? So this is completely your choice. If you don't want to give him to them, then we will suffer the consequences.


[Amy looks at Sawyer.]


AMY: They can take him. He would want to keep us safe.

So if the Others don't give up Paul, then there will be consequences.


If they give up Paul, then that will keep them safe, and it's what Paul would want them to do.


A veiled threat here to Sawyer? It sure sounds that way to me.


So Sawyer stays in70s Dharmaville, a decision he makes AFTER hearing this conversation between Amy and Horace.




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I noticed something I totally should’ve caught before.D’oh!


Where exactly WAS Jack sitting on the plane?

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Walkabout_transcript

JACK: Hi. Rose, right? Remember me, seat 23A? I'm the guy that told you not to worry about the turbulence. Everybody's getting pretty worried about you, Rose. If you want to be alone that's fine, but you have to take care of yourself. You should really drink. Okay. We don't have to talk. Let's just sit for a while.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Exod...t_1_transcript


ANA LUCIA: I hate flying. And they stuck me all the way in the back of the plane where the wheels come down right under your damn feet. So where are you sitting?


JACK: [checking his ticket] 23B.

I watched Walkabout again recently and I was all “huh?” when Jack said he was seated in “A.” Because I remember posting not so long ago (upthread) that Jack told Ana-Lucia he was seated in “B.”


And Harold Wollstein, the guy whose ticket Claire read out loud at the end of Walkabout, was supposedly seated in “C.” Which I figured would be right next to Jack.


But wait -- ROSE was seated in “C.”


So…was Rose sitting on top of Wollstein or are we talking two different flights here? The same flight number/time/gate…only on a different date?


IF that “island” was real and the flight and the plane crash were real, then I believe Harold would’ve been seated in 23C, and Rose and the empty spot next to her (for Bernard…?) would’ve been somewhere else in that plane.


Like most everything else in this series, I believe the writers GAVE us Harold Wollstein’s seating assignment for a reason…it’s a clue. We’re supposed to question where he was sitting when that plane crashed because he sure wasn’t sitting in his seat. And Rose sure seemed to be in HER seat, with what appeared to be Bernard’s next to her.


Possible explanations, IMO:

• Rose and Harold Wollstein each had boarding passes for Flight 815, seat 23C…but for different dates.
  
  
  Rose had seat 23C on the date of the "crash," whether she was a patient on her way to this therapy, or someone involved in the experiment, someone whose job it was to keep Jack occupied.
  
  
  If so, then that opens the door to there being more people on that “island” who may carry boarding passes with the 815 flight number, but for different dates.
  
  
  
  **** I think Harold Wollstein is one identity that could end up being Sawyer’s real name, real identity. And it’s not like that’s a name we’d peg for him, right? So it’s not real obvious, and would fit with the Razzle Dazzle! in the series.
  
  
  
  
• Rose was sitting in the wrong seat…but then Bernard would’ve been sitting in the wrong seat as well. (I’m not buying that at the moment, not on a show like this, where we'd assume seating was important to following the clues.)
  
  
  
• Rose wasn’t really sitting in ANY seat…Jack brought her into this “island” story, for whatever reason, and he only believed he saw her on that airplane, after he drank whatever it is he was drinking on that plane. Cindy gave him his drinks, so that alone makes it questionable what he was drinking. (Remember, there were clues in SOS to Jack's POV for the R&B flashback. So Jack making up Rose's presence on that plane would fit.)
  
  

And this might be a clue to Sawyer as Wollstein in 23C:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ever...elf_transcript

SAWYER: 10 million's in a red Bronco parked in a Stor-Quik facility in Sawgrass, right off 441, unit 23C . That's where your money is.

I think the “23C” might be a clue to SEAT 23C and that it may link from Sawyer...to Wollstein.



So four choices for me at the moment regarding Sawyer's real name: Sawyer, Shane (that book he was reading), Harold Wollstein, Paul *something*.




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Here’s a seat map for a Boeing 777.

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ame..._777-200_A.php


So where Jack and Rose were sitting fits with the seating chart for that aircraft.


More about Jack and HIS seat...

• Jack told Rose that he was the guy from 23A. Now, if Jack was sitting in 23B when talking to Rose AND that was his actual seat assignment (as he told Ana-Lucia), then why would he think to call himself the guy from 23A? Right? He’d say “23B” instead.
  
  But he didn’t…he said 23A.
  
  
  
  
• Maybe 23A WAS Jack’s real seat, it’s where we saw him sitting from the beginning, and if it changed later in the story…to 23B in Exodus with Ana-Lucia…then maybe that has to do with POV?
  
  
  Think about it – if you’re in that same plane with Jack and you see him seated in 23B and he’s talking to Rose, who’s on the aisle, across the aisle, and it’s your turn to tell the “island” therapy story, direct that story, then wouldn’t you assume that Jack was seated in 23B and not 23A? Maybe you never saw him in 23A at all?
  
  
  
  
• If Jack was in 23A, and then shoved over to 23B to comfort Rose…just as it looked…then someone else was in 23B, but was simply missing from their seat; they were somewhere else in the plane at the moment of the “crash.” But WHO was it?
  
  The real James Ford? But then where’d he go…the back of the plane? If so, then how’d Sawyer get Ford’s wallet and/or be under the impression that Ford died? It sure seems like if you’re a conman and you’re going to steal an identity, it sure as hell better be the identity of a guy presumed dead. Otherwise, what’s the point?
  
  So if the person who had seat 23B was the real James Ford, then I say he had to have been somewhere in the front of the plane at the time of the “crash.”
  
  
  
  
• We saw JACK twice, giving two different seat numbers for JACK. Or did we?
  
  
  Bryden’s worst nightmare: Jack has an evil twin who was seated in 23B. The reason we saw Jack giving out two different seat numbers might’ve been because there are two distinct, but separate, Jacks. It’s not like we haven’t had clues to twins in this series, right? That manuscript…”The Bad Twin”…we could have the guy who flirted with Ana in the bar AND the guy who comforted Rose in the plane.
  
  
  If so, then did Bad!Jack die in the crash or did he live? And if he lived, have we been watching both Jacks, the writers having them switch places, like in that Parent Trap movie?
  
  
  Somebody get me a drink. And make it a double.
  
  
  
  
• Or, there’s the explanation that there will never BE an explanation for Jack’s seat screw-up – we’re to assume his seat was “B,” but he was sitting in “A,” until moving back to “B” again to comfort Rose.
  
  
  But that would be the boring answer, IMO, and these writers are anything BUT boring.
  

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I was thinking again of the Drive Shaft van license plate clue from Greatest Hits, and how if I was correct in unscrambling it, then it would fit with the speculation that LOST is the story of a television dramality program. Because a television series IS something that may be retooled. And the retooling here obviously refers to getting rid of one of the main characters, the self-proclaimed rock god Charlie Pace.


YRE 2OL = Why retool?



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Catch 22 -- as the camera pans over Juliet’s new living quarters at the beach camp, there’s a bag or a box cover, something, on the back side of her tent contraption that clearly reads “flour.” You can’t see it in the following cap, but this is where/when it shows up on the screen. It’s there; trust me. Go and see for yourself.






Flour…flower…LaFleur?


And the camera shows us that “flour” clue right before Sawyer walks up to ask Jack to play ping-pong.


Foreshadowing? Sawyer AS LaFleur? Or are we looking a clue about something “white”…flour…and LaFleur and white flour go together, as in the “white” side of this therapy game?


And I noticed Sawyer’s T-shirt in this episode as well. It shows a tiger and 1980. “A tiger don’t change his stripes.”

http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums...h22-cap512.jpg



We discussed the Chinese Zodiac upthread, and we’ve seen it in the series with Jin and the Panda purchase. So to play off of that, we see that Sawyer’s shirt here says 1980, only that was the year of the monkey, not the tiger. 2004 was also the year of the monkey. So does this support the notion that Sawyer’s been on that “island” since, or before, 2004, as I previously speculated? “I made this birthday wish 4 years ago.” And we saw the 2003 poster on the wall in that pool hall…


And get this – 2007, the year I say it probably was on that “island” when the Losties “crashed”? That was the year of the boar. And we had Sawyer being hassled by boars, remember?


And 2008? The year of the rat – and we’ve had clues to “rat,” with Ethan and Juliet.


2009? – ox/cow – and remember Frank and his cow-sighting, LOL? So does this mean by the time all is said and done, we’ll see the Losties living their lives in 2009?




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54439, the code young Ben used to turn off the security system in TMBTC, is the zip code for Hannibal, Wisconsin. (No cap available, but again, if you go back and watch that part of the episode, you’ll see the piece of paper in Ben’s hand, and on it is written that set of numbers. I never noticed it before now.)


Another clue to Wisconsin, which is nothing unusual, since it’s “home” to at least a couple of the LOST writers -- but I’m liking the “Hannibal” link a lot. Because raise your hand if at least once in this series you’ve compared Michael Emerson’s “Ben” to Sir Anthony Hopkins’s “Hannibal Lecter.” My hand is sure raised. And what profession was Hannibal? He was a psychiatrist. So yet another clue that fits this series and this theory.





I've run out of room in this post. More to come.

[kfree]

If anyone wants to know what the episode title of season 6, episode 7 is, then go to darkufo to the spoiler section. It's HUGE as far as I'm concerned and it fits Bryden's theory perfectly! (I wish I knew how to "hide" it in this post for those who want to know, but I don't know how).

[vizzle]

Originally Posted by kfree

If anyone wants to know what the episode title of Spoiler: season 6, episode 7 is, then go to darkufo to the spoiler section. It's HUGE as far as I'm concerned and it fits Bryden's theory perfectly! (I wish I knew how to "hide" it in this post for those who want to know, but I don't know how).

highlight the text you want to "spoiler"

on the task bar above your written text you have, bold, italic, underline etc. to the far right is spoiler.

Spoiler: just click on it

[Bryden]

kfree – Thanks!

Title-Only Spoiler: ("Dr. Linus" is the episode title.)
http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/





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I’ve mentioned in here several times that Bea Klugh…Be a clue…has GOT to be a clue. Because come on, could the writers BE any clearer here?


So she’s a clue. But what do we do with her, which path do we take with this character?

• Bea…is she related to Abaddon? Wife, sister? Walt told Michael not to believe they’re who they say they are; he said they’re pretending.
  
  
  How would Walt know that the Others are pretending? What led him to that conclusion? Did he recognize them from somewhere? And Bea is IN that Three Minutes episode with Walt and Michael...
  
  
  So did Walt recognize Bea and that's how he knows they're pretending?
  
  
  
  
  
• Does the revelation about Bea have something to do with her costume?
  
  But then ALL of the Others are in costume when we meet Bea on that dock. So a costume is not something that separates her from the rest of the Others. So if SHE is a clue and that clue relates to the costume, then all the rest of the Others would be clues as well. But only HER name was written this way, AS a clue.
  
  
  But just to cover all bases...
  
  
  Why does a person WEAR a costume? (I sound like Michael Scott. )
  
  …They’re portraying a character; they’re acting, playing make-believe. (That fits the spec in this theory that this may be a psychological experiment...taking place on TV.)
  
  …..They’re hiding their identity.
  
  
  Bea’s costume didn’t hide her face. She was just Bea…in a costume. So the costume did nothing to hide her identity from anyone. (At least Superman wore glasses as Clark Kent. So Bea should’ve at least worn some glasses if she wanted to hide her identity from Walt, I guess. )
  
  So for me, the costumes are a clue to something, but Bea in costume is not the solution to her clue-name.
  
  
  
  
  
• What about the actress’s name as the answer to the clue regarding that character? Because as we know, names DO make a difference, they DO mean something in this series.
  
  
  April Grace -- April is a month of the year, a birth month, and we already have so many clues to birth dates and the moon/stars/zodiac. We've also had many clues specifically to the month of April.
  
  
  April links to LSD many times over, remember. A very important month in this series and in this theory, so for the actress's name to be the solution to the clue makes perfect sense to me.
  
  
  According to IMDB, April Grace was in the series Crossing Jordan, a series Damon wrote for…http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0333318/ So I’m speculating that Damon might’ve asked THIS actress to portray Bea, and then he used her real name as the answer to a clue.
  
  

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http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Catch-22_transcript

HURLEY: Er, for charity. And Flash would totally win cause he can like, vibrate through walls and stuff.
CHARLIE: [Sarcastic] Oohh vibration, and what would Superman do if he came up against a wall?

Remember, the song “Good Vibrations” is what Charlie had to type into the computer in Greatest Hits. Just something I noticed.



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http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Catch-22_transcript


KATE: Well my big dangerous adventure for tonight is gonna be doing the dishes, in the ocean.
JACK: Be careful.
KATE: I'll try.
JACK: Erm, can I borrow that spoon.
KATE: Yeah.
[Kate licks it clean as she passes it to him]
JACK: Thanks. Goodnight.
KATE: Yeah goodnight.

The spoon. Kate wiping it clean with her mouth. Saliva. WHY didn’t I see this before?! There are saliva tests for women to determine when they’re ovulating.


The question is, did Jack have full knowledge of what Juliet was going to test with Kate’s spoon? At this point in the story, and because of his jealousy and anger over Kate choosing Sawyer, I say that “yes,” Jack knew. And I say he knew in the FF as well, since it was most likely JACK who hired that attorney to get a DNA sample from Kate/Aaron.


So first came confirming Kate’s ovulation, then came Kate having sex with Sawyer multiple times, and then came the need to get a sample to confirm Kate’s pregnancy…only there wasn’t time to do it on that “island,” and it couldn’t be accomplished in the FF, either (with attorney Dan, of Norton and Agostini), but finally, it was accomplished once Juliet duped Kate into donating blood to young Ben.


So Juliet conspiring with Jack. It makes sense regarding so many issues, even Jack’s sudden interest in Sun’s pregnancy when he returned to the camp with Juliet.


And I hate to say it, I REALLY hate to say it, but I say look for the same type of situation with Juliet and Sawyer…but not after the crash, BEFORE the crash. I’ve speculated that Sawyer and Juliet knew each other pre-crash, and that spec still makes perfect sense to me, given the twists and turns in this story.


I think Juliet’s MO is snaring men and then using them to do her bidding. By using her telekinetic abilities and knowing exactly how to manipulate them, Juliet is able to maintain control over the men in her life, keeping them by her side. She threatens them and the people they love, and that is how she's assured of their cooperation. In short, she's a dirty bird. I think that will become more clear next season, with or without the actress/character herself. Juliet is not needed to continue the story of Juliet's influence on the story.






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I found the answer to something I’ve been wondering about since Season 4. “Why beans?”


We’ve seen close-ups of bean cans several times, and Frank brought Desmond and Sayid lima beans to eat on the freighter.


Lima beans…butter beans…lead us to Jasper, Alabama, where Sawyer was from/lived as a child.

According to Wikipedia, the famous boxer, "Butterbean" Eric Esche lives in Jasper, Alabama. And Sawyer was a boxer in that prison FB, remember? And the name “Eric” is familiar as well – from that gas station in TLC.





So the beans, the boxing...they're clues to Jasper, Alabama, IMO. And that helps us to establish POV, specifically Sawyer's POV.


But Cassidy, the episode TLC…all of that sure looked to have taken plane in Iowa -- we saw Kate’s mom Diane working in the diner, the Iowa plate in the glass case, the motel with the big ‘ol cornstalk…


But it's easy now to see clues to both Iowa AND Jasper, Alabama…so that must mean both Sawyer AND Kate were POVs in that episode, that storyline. And that is what I already speculated.


Going further...

If we revisit the “lima beans” scene on the freighter, we notice that we’re in the episode Ji Yeon. This is also the episode where we have Jin and the panda, and the subject of Chinese New Year, which we see again regarding Sawyer’s T-shirt in C22. And in Ji Yeon, Kate calls Charlotte “the redhead…”


Sawyer's voice in Ji Yeon as well?




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10/29 – the DOC for Sun’s baby, whether the year is 2004 or 2007. And that’s a problem. Because if you recall, Sun and Jin were on the outs between Lost in Translation and when Jin left on the raft at the end of S1.


In Numbers, as Michael and Jin argue over rebuilding the raft, Sun even comments to Kate about how she’s worried that Jin will never speak to her again. So Jin's not speaking to Sun, but he IS sleeping with her? Nah.


After Michael is captured by the Others (3 Minutes), Pickett takes Michael’s blood.


Interesting.


And Walt -- like Bea said, they learned a LOT from that kid, didn't they? The same kid Sawyer said he got "the evening news" from...




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In my previous post, I mentioned the clue to Ben and Hannibal, and the link between Ben and Lector from Silence of the Lambs.

And I think I mentioned it in the archived thread, but in case I didn't, let's not forget the link between that movie, that psychiatrist, the serial killer he was helping catch, and moths...to our Ben, him being a psychiatrist with a moth collection.

[kfree]

Thank you, Vizzle, for the help. I appreciate it!...

Bryden, I can't remember if you've talked about this before or not, so I'll say sorry in advance if you have. What if the losties are a mix of mentally ill patients and prisoners placed in this experimental psychological "game" between certain key players in the real world who are trying to find out which philosopher (Locke, Bentham, Hume, Burke, etc.) were correct in their thinking way back in the 1700's? The key players apply the different philosophical views to an actual group of people (losties) in a game-like situation, but they have the help of therapists (unknowingly) to help them progress through their real life problems and illnesses. How else could the philosophers' names which are so blatantly put in our faces be applied to this theory? I would love to hear your take on this!

Something totally unrelated to that, but something I noticed. I was rewatching "The Variable" and noticed the interaction between Eloise Hawking, Daniel, and Theresa when he supposedly graduated from the university. I got an incredible "Sixth Sense" (the movie) vibe in that scene. It wasn't that Eloise was being rude to Theresa...it was that Theresa wasn't really there, but Eloise played along as if she was there! Watch it and see what you all think!!

[Bryden]

Originally Posted by kfree

Bryden, I can't remember if you've talked about this before or not, so I'll say sorry in advance if you have. What if the losties are a mix of mentally ill patients and prisoners placed in this experimental psychological "game" between certain key players in the real world who are trying to find out which philosopher (Locke, Bentham, Hume, Burke, etc.) were correct in their thinking way back in the 1700's? The key players apply the different philosophical views to an actual group of people (losties) in a game-like situation, but they have the help of therapists (unknowingly) to help them progress through their real life problems and illnesses. How else could the philosophers' names which are so blatantly put in our faces be applied to this theory? I would love to hear your take on this!

kfree, you bring up an interesting subject, one that definitely fits what this theory says is going on behind the scenes. Excellent!


As we saw in that S5 finale, we had two guys who did NOT agree on whether or not the people on that boat were inherently good or evil, or how those people would react to whatever the "island" served up for them. So philosophizing is, IMO, integral to the purpose of the "island" -- social and psychological experimentation.


What happens on that "island" is staged, IMO, designed to elicit a response from the people being studied. So I think it makes sense that if professionals are deciding how to challenge the Losties, or if they're reflecting on the various reactions TO those challenges, then the teachings of those philosophers would play a role in those discussions.



The Experimental Social Psychology Society -- educated men and women who are apparently watching the Losties, studying them, and commenting about them to each other. Hence the whispers the Losties heard in the jungle...



I remember reading that philosopher John Locke’s theory of mind and identity/self influenced other philosophers, including those with namesakes in this series, some of them Scottish philosophers. So like you, kfree, I don’t believe the names were arbitrary. They support both the purpose of the "island" and the location of the "island." And remember how Locke's FF name was changed by Abaddon/Widmore to Jeremy Bentham? Yet another philosopher, but one who importantly links to the panopticon, a concept/design which supports the idea of a prison/mental institution...



Without a doubt, I believe a lot of thought and invention went into the creation and writing for this series. Everything really does happen for a reason, IMO.

Originally Posted by kfree

Something totally unrelated to that, but something I noticed. I was rewatching "The Variable" and noticed the interaction between Eloise Hawking, Daniel, and Theresa when he supposedly graduated from the university. I got an incredible "Sixth Sense" (the movie) vibe in that scene. It wasn't that Eloise was being rude to Theresa...it was that Theresa wasn't really there, but Eloise played along as if she was there! Watch it and see what you all think!!

Whoa. I will go back and re-watch that, thank you!

I think we're going to find out more about "Theresa." There's more story to tell, IMO. The question is, WHOSE story is it to tell.

I would love for it to be Locke's. We've seen him and "stairs" way too many times. Now, the clue could be to the "stairs" as a method of embarking on a shamanic journey, hypnosis, etc. But it might just as well be the scene of a crime.


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I noticed this last night when looking for something else. Check out the scene with Frank Lapidus in Confirmed Dead, the one where he's in his “Caribbean Dreams” office. Notice the woman who walks down the sidewalk outside his office. And then notice her AGAIN right after that, right after the camera focuses on the TV set. She's walking by Frank's office AGAIN, just like she did a few seconds before...the same woman, walking in the same direction, much like that woman and man outside of Jack's tent in White Rabbit.



This theory didn’t consider the WR happening a "production error" before, and I'm sure as hell not considering the CD one a "production error" either. I say that Frank in his office is just as fabricated as anything we’ve seen to date on that “island.” Staged. Created during the course of this experiment...for a reason. Not a true happening or memory...a part of the "island" therapy. They all have roles to play, and Frank has one, too. He may even BE an actor. And we could speculate that the repeated segment of film in the background supports my earlier speculation in here that the correct theory for this series is still THIS theory, but...in bed. In other words, THIS theory...happening in front of a television audience...this theory, on television.