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Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 03:31 PM
Any other people think that she has NO reason to be a series regular next season?
In my opinion, she's just going to take away from other GOOD characters's spotlights, and possibly take over Kate's role almost completely.
So if anyone else agrees with me here, tell me why, and vent with me!

p.s. this is not an anti Michelle Rodriguez thread. Although I do not like her either. But this thread is about the weak nature of this character and how we refuse to accept her future role on the show as anything remotely appropriate.

MODERATOR ANNOUNCEMENT!

This is the OFFICIAL Ana Lucia Hater thread. All Ana talk by those who hate her CHARACTER stays in here. Any new threads about hating her character will be locked.

ontheceiling
06-06-2005, 03:33 PM
Agreed! I'll join!

Eternally
06-06-2005, 03:34 PM
I am right here with you. I didn't like her character one bit. I hated how she approached Jack...i know that its her 'personality' or whatever, but i mean, his dad just died and he doesn't need a complete stranger butting into his life and asking all these annoying questions. :mad: Count me in!

ontheceiling
06-06-2005, 03:35 PM
Yeah, watching her just... ugh :shudder: She wanted in his pants! And that is where KATE belongs.

*Pauly*
06-06-2005, 03:35 PM
I think you have to give characters a chance. I suspect she will be involved in some kindof major twist involving one of the characters. It could be interesting.

saylinara
06-06-2005, 03:35 PM
I don't think she'd be a completely useless character. IMO, there's room on the island for another woman, especially such a bold one. Even though Kate is a "tough woman," there are a lot of weaknesses to her, such as her tendecies to be very very stubborn to the point of being whiny. Just as Jack and Sawyer have a lot of the same qualities, they are two very different character. Ana and Kate will probably have the same polar oppositeness and she'll bring a new dynamic to the show. I personally, like the change.

and I thought that WAS kinda rude when she just like..started talking to Jack..

I don't think it was necessarily rude. When you're standing in the line at the ticket window screaming and throwing a fit, there are questions that would be appropriate to ask. And Jack's hot...if you ran into a hot guy you'd be using any kind of tactics to pull him in. If that had been Sawyer, Hurley, Boone, Sayid or any of the other guys on the island, we'd be welcoming her in with open arms. It's up to Jack at this point whether he goes to Kate or Ana.

o3SoakUpTheSunX
06-06-2005, 03:35 PM
Hahaha Yup I'm in! I agree w/ Liz+Jamie, and I thought that WAS kinda rude when she just like..started talking to Jack..

SunBurnedPenguin
06-06-2005, 03:38 PM
Yes, I'll join too!!!! Stupid Jate-wrecker!!! Bad Ana-Lucia.

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 03:40 PM
Yeah, she was rude! i totally agree! he was dealing with a loss and she would not stop hitting on him. And Liz, you are right, she's another interloper in the ship of Jate, and trust me when I say, Sawyer gives us enough to go on with that. Ana is completely unneeded for it. Haha. Who says we make a list of the haters?

Eternally
06-06-2005, 03:41 PM
I say we make a list!!! :D

*Pauly*
06-06-2005, 03:42 PM
I hope she doesn't become involved in any triangles or anything. I hope she is just a tool for the plot but we'll see.. you guys shouldn't jump on her character after one scene.

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 03:44 PM
haha ok sweet! thanks liz!

XxLauraxX
06-06-2005, 03:57 PM
blegh thread's closed...

It's not only that she's a jater breaker (although that's a big part of it) it's also that her character has no reason in the show beyond being a spotlight stealer from the WONDERFUL actress Evangeline lilly, among others.

this is exactly why i don't like her

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 03:58 PM
i dont get it! there are other anti character threads! wtf??? oh well, we can discuss it on here i guess.

EyesClosed
06-06-2005, 04:04 PM
(going against my better judgement)

Personally, I don't see the problem with Ana. She was in a flashback, as a curious person who's not afraid to speak her mind. Sure, certain questions may be deemed rude, but... everybody makes mistakes and does rude things from time to time.

As for her having no purpose? How on earth can you make that statement? We haven't seen her truly do anything yet! Basing your entire opinion of her based solely on an encounter you did not like is a little bit close-minded, I think.

Note: I'm watching this. Don't let it get out of hand, please.

Razor
06-06-2005, 04:04 PM
I guess there's a thin line between being rude/blunt and being forthright/headstrong. I look forward to seeing in which direction they choose to take in developing this character. Personally, I find her tactlessness/straightforwardness (depending upon your perspective), as a character trait, refreshing. It leaves little room for misunderstanding. No "games" being played.

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 04:08 PM
EyesClosed. I see your point. But, there is an I love Ana thread based off of the same amount of airtime. if you can have an opinion one way, why not the other?
And it won't get out of hand. We are just gathering to express our opinions. We all need to vent a little, and deserve to be able to do so in a respectful manner. NO actress bashing, no worries!

*Pauly*
06-06-2005, 04:08 PM
Well said sam. Totally agree.

XxLauraxX
06-06-2005, 04:10 PM
EyesClosed. I see your point. But, there is an I love Ana thread based off of the same amount of airtime. if you can have an opinion one way, why not the other?
And it won't get out of hand. We are just gathering to express our opinions. We all need to vent a little, and deserve to be able to do so in a respectful manner. NO actress bashing, no worries!

couldn't agree more :D

EyesClosed
06-06-2005, 04:11 PM
I'm not bashing either opinion. I think both are rather ungrounded, actually :p However, this is the place I saw and thought I'd give my own perspective.

Sway
06-06-2005, 04:16 PM
I'm not so sure about Ana, only because her character seems like she will be TOO MUCH like Kate's character (and I'm not a fan of Kate) only because we ALL know what the type of role Michelle is famous for... the anti-girly girl. And if that is true for her character on this show, then she will completely mimic Kate's character. And that, to me, is pointless, as we already have a character like this on the show (kate) and we don't need two. I also hope she wasn't just introduced to create tension between Kate/Jack. Now that Sawyer is at sea, do they feel they need to have another love triangle? I'm not a hardcore 'shiper of any kind, I think that, in a degree, they compliment the show, but if this is the direction they are going in (Angst between Jack and Kate and other relationships) than its a pity, because I watch this show mainly for the plot.

*takes breath* SO-- in that sense, I'm against Ana. :)

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 04:17 PM
oh, ok then. thanks!
and also, whi thinks that Ana and Sawyer are perfect for each other? Hard headed, crude and pushy. hehehe. they're a perfect couple.
and sawy, you've said everything I could have about the Kate replacement aspect of this whole thing. It's true! She is manly and tough. Kate's not manly, just not feminine. But yeah, they don't need yet another triangle. I went through numerous triangles on Alias, and let me tell you, it got old. Very old. So yes, Sway, you are completely right!

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 04:20 PM
wow, how wonderful! I'm joining!

*Pauly*
06-06-2005, 04:35 PM
What you hate her? but you'd ship her with someone that makes a whole lot of sense..

*Pauly*
06-06-2005, 04:37 PM
LOL you jaters :P

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 08:09 PM
Polar Bear, it surely does make a lot of sense, because if she's preoccupied with Sawyer (who's perfect for her; I hate him too) then we won't have to worry about her taking over any roles or anything.
And polar bear, we realy don't appreciate you stereotyping "us Jaters". It's not nice, and we don't do it to you. If you're pro Ana, and have nothing nice to say about us as people, why are you here?

Foxys_Ducati
06-06-2005, 08:15 PM
:rant: I personally think her character could possibly kill the show. But thats just my opinion!!
:rant: No new characters!! I am against it!!

*Pauly*
06-06-2005, 08:18 PM
I'm not pro-Ana I am neutral-Ana as she has had hardly any screentime. We know pretty much 'zip' about her. That was my main reason for commenting on the thread.

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 08:19 PM
I agree! that's why I am against her! Well, one reason at least. I really don't think they need another female lead. Emilie, Yunjin, Evangeline, and Maggie do wonderful jobs, and I never felt the need for any more estrogen on the show. It's a good balance, surprisingly. No one needs a brash, hardheaded "Ana Lucia" around to bug them. Ugh.

Stace
06-06-2005, 08:22 PM
I can't stand Ana either. I would rather see Jack with Kate than her! She was just... annoying. And her character seemed a bit cheap to me. I wish she wasn't joining the cast!

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 08:33 PM
Wow a Skater preferring Jate over Ana/Jack? That's some serious contempt! Awesome dude! Yeah, I wish she wasn't joining the cast either. Obviously. Chep, she is cheap, I totally agree. And completely shallow and awful! Haha. I wish we could petition against her. But no one would see the reason in it until the season starts. I will start a perition once we see more of her, you can be sure of it. Like it would work, but it's worth a shot, right?

lostaddict92
06-06-2005, 08:36 PM
i dont want her beacuse she can really kill/breakdown (excuse me) Jack! and having a famous peson on the show just shows people wanted to be on the new hit tv show.

Stace
06-06-2005, 08:36 PM
Of course!

And yup, I'd rather jate, which is saying alot! I just... can't stand her. I never been so annoyed by a character. I mean, who picks up a guy in a bar at an airport?

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 08:42 PM
Lost addict, that's a good point about her being famous. I feel that will take away from the atmosphere of the show as well, seeing a famous face on there. I liked how all the actors were all relative unknowns. It helped bring about believablity.

Lost obsessor~ Only idiots pick up guys at airport bars. It's like, what would she have done if he were on a different flight and hadn't rejected her? They would ahve never seen each other again and any attempts she made would ahve been completely fruitless. Idiot.

enelya
06-06-2005, 08:48 PM
Stacie :hug2:

I didn't like the way Ana approached Jack, nor did I like the she left with that misterious call... I don't know, she just gets on my nerves!

(I'd sign in the AA list, if it hadn't been closed ;) )

Adelheid
06-06-2005, 08:50 PM
Hmm . . . well, Liz commented on the first page about Ana coming in just to be between Jate, but isn't that one of the reasons Sawyer's there? Isn't Jack there to come between Skate? So, if their coming between each ship, should we just kill off Jack and/or Sawyer? No. Not saying you guys want Ana dead, but I think it's unnecessary to assume that if Ana's there, she will definitely hook up with Jack. You can't assume everything. I am really hoping that you guys won't be offended by this, just trying to get my point across. I love the Jaters! :D :grouphug:
And I really don't think Ana is annoying or pointless. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Also, if you were trusting of Kate's love in Jack, or Jack's love in Kate, then why would you worry about Ana? If Jack really loves Kate and if Kate really loves Jack, then Ana isn't a threat.

Sway
06-06-2005, 08:52 PM
I still laugh at this thread title, lol, its just so.. harsh.

I wouldn't say she's pointless though, I may not like her (as of yet) but what if she ends up saving Jack's life? Then you couldn't really call her pointless :confused:

It depends on what direction they end up taking her character in. If it is for love triangle angst-ness, then I will NOT like her (and it may even have a negative affect on my opinion of the show) but who knows... Believe me, if she turns into a little---- *ahem* person-that-runs-around-teasing-the-guys, then I will join the "I Hate Ana List".

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 08:59 PM
Sway, I know what you mean. And I do predict a love triangle, only because I've seen JJ do it before. That's why I'm so concerned about it. BLAH!

Sway
06-06-2005, 09:02 PM
I agree. I've never seen Alias, but if you say thats what he did in that show, sadly to say, that looks like what will happen in this show *deep sigh* I'm so over angst in these relationships, I just want the focus on the PLOT and answering some damn questions! *shakes fist*

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 09:04 PM
Yes, I agree.
They don't need to add to the love. We have enough realtionships. PLENTY.
And anyone who has seen Alias knows. So many triangles. And undead/dead people. But that's besides the point.

Sway
06-06-2005, 09:06 PM
lol. I see. I mean, I think the relationships should be something that ADD to the show. I think that the occassional tension between Jack/Kate/Sawyer and the adorable scenes of Charlie/Claire are great, but the focus should be on the plot etc.

It's easy to guess the type of character Ana will be also, because of the way Michelle is typecast. And if that's the case........ *boring*

lunakasha
06-06-2005, 09:07 PM
And I really don't think Ana is annoying or pointless. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Also, if you were trusting of Kate's love in Jack, or Jack's love in Kate, then why would you worry about Ana? If Jack really loves Kate and if Kate really loves Jack, then Ana isn't a threat.

I agree with Sawyersgirl and Sway....I think it is a little harsh to say that Ana is "evil and pointless" when she's only appeared in one brief scene....I am neutral right now, but I think maybe her character will bring some new energy to the show, probably some conflict as well, but that keeps things interesting IMO.

And I am not anti-Jate either BTW....I just think it will be interesting to see how Jack handles the situation. I believe that he really cares about Kate, and he has known her for much longer than he has known Ana. I don't think he would just forget about Kate when Ana appears....that just doesn't sound like Jack does it???

Peace to the Jaters and "Anti Anas"....:grouphug: please don't be offended, all I am saying is that I want to reserve judgement until we get to know her a little more.

:) Luna

Sway
06-06-2005, 09:09 PM
Well said, my love, Luna! :D I'm hopeing that she will bring another "energy" to the show, like you said, and maybe she will be the female version of the leadership that Jack has, most likely the leader of the 'tail end survivors'. This will be interesting to see.

Carmel Cutie
06-06-2005, 09:13 PM
Luna, I see your point. A good, mature point of view on this which I am unable to produce because of my high bias on everything that has to do with this show. Lol. But nicely said. Thank you.

lunakasha
06-06-2005, 09:19 PM
Luna, I see your point. A good, mature point of view on this which I am unable to produce because of my high bias on everything that has to do with this show. Lol. But nicely said. Thank you.

Thanks, CC....I am really glad that I made my point without offending or upsetting people, which of course was not my intent. And I can understand getting emotional about this show and these characters we love.....I get the same way when we start talking about people getting killed off....grrrrr!!! ;)

I appreciate the kind remarks....nice that we can have a mature discussion even if we don't exactly agree. And thank you Sway, my sweetie.....:hug2:

*huggles CC and Sway*

:) Luna

Sanitation
06-06-2005, 09:41 PM
oh, ok then. thanks!
and also, whi thinks that Ana and Sawyer are perfect for each other? Hard headed, crude and pushy. hehehe. they're a perfect couple.
and sawy, you've said everything I could have about the Kate replacement aspect of this whole thing. It's true! She is manly and tough. Kate's not manly, just not feminine. But yeah, they don't need yet another triangle. I went through numerous triangles on Alias, and let me tell you, it got old. Very old. So yes, Sway, you are completely right!

Okay okay.
I know i'm like 2 months late in replying to this but...
SAWYER/ANA!
Exactly why I like the thought of the couple.
Ana-Lucia is perfect. Lol. Have you seen Michelle in Resident Evil? I thought the movie was awesome [even if it didn't get very good ratings]. Sure it wasn't the best movie, but her attitude was just so... xD...

I don't think that the writers are going to do anything with "Sawna", sadly.
I think she's there for a triangle. =[.
I dont mind Jack/Ana, or Ana/Sawyer as long as Ana isn't a big big problem or role to the T.V. show.
Just please oh god, not Ana/Hurley. LOL... Hurley.. Haha gotta love that guy.

lostaddict92
06-06-2005, 10:13 PM
wait!
If she was in the last row... how is she alive? samuel l. jackson (another famous face) is coming too. (rumor!!)

Sway
06-06-2005, 10:16 PM
wait!
If she was in the last row... how is she alive? samuel l. jackson (another famous face) is coming too. (rumor!!)
Check out the Spoilerfix.com collective list, it was disproved ;) no sam. J :(

The theory is that the tail end survivers are coming back in season 2.

LuvinSawyer
06-06-2005, 10:31 PM
Just sayin'. What if Ana is being brought on for Sawyer ?

This is pure speculation on my part. Sawyer, Jin and Michael end up on another part of the island and find the survivors of the tail section. Sawyer is wounded and Ana nurses him back to health. I can see tpab testing MR's chemistry with Josh.

Jate could happen. Skate could happen. Jana could happen. Sana could happen.

Or she could end up with Locke?

Who knows?

Jarrah07
06-06-2005, 10:37 PM
I dont think Ana is going to last long.... she will end up probably dead....

Sway
06-06-2005, 10:39 PM
They say she's signed on as a full time 'guest' (i think is the word they used) for season 2. So we may not see much of her but she'll probably be around for all of season 2.

leleana
06-06-2005, 11:05 PM
Sway pretty much said what I was going to say.

Ana is most likely not pointless at all. They introduced her for a reason, and lets face the facts, this show isn't all about relationships, it's all about plot and dragging out the mysteries. So why would they introduce a back-of-the-plane person unless she has something to do with the plot? Ana isn't pointless, we just don't know her full point yet. And I think Sway's right, she probably will end up being like the leader of the back end of the plane.

Eksynyt
06-06-2005, 11:26 PM
I thought sawyer was rude at first and I didn't like him...but as I saw more of his story, I began to like him as a character more. Ana-Lucia will grow on all of us.

Stace
06-06-2005, 11:38 PM
She's got a lot of growing to do on me and all the jaters. I just don't like her personality, where with Sawyer, I like him from the start.

LostWord
06-07-2005, 12:23 AM
I want in on this. :) Ana Lucia sucks(really she does--she couldn't keep her fingers out of her mouth..ew... ;). ) She just better keep her grubby little paws off of Jack. She's the sort of character they bring in to ruin other characters, like Jack. If they wrote him in such a way as to be interested in her, it would ruin his character--because he'd be interested in a charmless, abrasive, nasty, uncouth, not very pretty individual. It would make him look so bad to be interested in someone like her. Which, being a tv show, is the sort of stupid thing they have characters do, which ruin those characters, simply to come up with excuses to keep them apart longer. Like Jack and Kate don't have enough issues to keep them apart without little miss grubby fingers getting in the way?

And I totally fear them giving over Kate's leading lady role to her, whether she and Jack hook up or not. That would be such an insult to Evi and the great work I think she's done this year so far.

They'll bring in Ana, the most kickinest a$$ chick ever to be stranded on an island--she'll be a better leader than Jack and Locke and Sayid combined, she'll know more about herbal medicine than Sun, heck probably be a better doctor than Jack and she'll already have figured out half the secrets of the Others. The last thing I want her to do is save Jack's life--I hate that so it wouldn't make me like her better. Let Jack get out of it on his own or let someone else save him. All her saving his life would make her is more of a Mary Sue then she most likely will already be. Frankly the Lost writers have touted alot of storylines and "twists" and they have almost invariably ended up being not has good as they claimed they would be, so I have no doubt whatever "plot reasons" she exists for, it won't be worth the trouble her very existence causes.

I hope the only thing she has with Jack is her own attempts at getting him interested to be entirely and completely ignored and rebuffed by him. And then she can try to hurt Kate and Jack can be forced to let the Security System eat her in order to protect Kate. :D Then we'll be rid of her.

Besides this is the "Ana Lucia is a pointless evil character thread"-- we shouldn't have to defend why she is. :D

Oh and I could get behind Ana/Hurley--she's so aggressive and abrasive and he's so laid back and easygoing, at the very least it would probably be entertaining for a couple of episodes and Hurley will actually "get some". :) So then she would have served one positive purpose in all her evil pointlessness otherwise. Then she can get fed to the Security System. :cool:

Stace
06-07-2005, 12:26 AM
LOL Ana and Hurley are complete opposites! They might actually work out together good too!

micheline215
06-07-2005, 12:44 AM
Hey Ana-Lucia!!! Open this box from the drug plane for me....OOPS. Problem of Ana-Lucia solved quick fast and in a hurry.

Ana Costa
06-07-2005, 12:46 AM
oh, ok then. thanks!
and also, whi thinks that Ana and Sawyer are perfect for each other? Hard headed, crude and pushy. hehehe. they're a perfect couple.
and sawy, you've said everything I could have about the Kate replacement aspect of this whole thing. It's true! She is manly and tough. Kate's not manly, just not feminine. But yeah, they don't need yet another triangle. I went through numerous triangles on Alias, and let me tell you, it got old. Very old. So yes, Sway, you are completely right!Totally agree. Ana Lucia would be perfect for Sawyer. She would help him stop feeling sorry for himself (which is the reason he can't get along with his emotional life) and at the same time she has the sex drive he has and he likes aggressive women. So she would be the perfect match for him. We are all assuming she came in the story to jump on Jack... but she has yet to meet Sawyer... maybe she came in to jump on him !

Anyways... many Skaters say they love Ana Lucia and that she is perfect for Jack. I am sure they only say that because they want to root for Sawyer & Kate. What better way to get Kate with Sawyer than to get Jack out of the way. Actually... that's the only way to get Kate & Sawyer together, so they will root for Ana Lucia always.

I don't want Ana Lucia for Jack simply because she is way inferior and he deserves better. Jack is too sofisticated for Ana Lucia's style. He would be lowering himself. IMO, if the writers go that way... they will be simply going the wrong way. Well... it's their call not ours... so let's see what happens.

If they wrote him in such a way as to be interested in her, it would ruin his character--because he'd be interested in a charmless, abrasive, nasty, uncouth, not very pretty individual. It would make him look so bad to be interested in someone like her. Which, being a tv show, is the sort of stupid thing they have characters do, which ruin those characters, simply to come up with excuses to keep them apart longer. I totally agree LostWord !
IF the writers chose to take Jack in that path, they will be RUINING ALL HE STANDS FOR ! It would by STUPID. PERIOD. To ruin a very well constructed character to gain time or whatever reason they might have, is the worst thing that could be done to a character.

I would rather they KILL JACK instead of ruining the person he is.
Jack would NEVER change his values, his soul, for a woman's piece of a..
And if the writers go that way... he would be better dead.

~Whatsername~
06-07-2005, 12:54 AM
Hey Ana-Lucia!!! Open this box from the drug plane for me....OOPS. Problem of Ana-Lucia solved quick fast and in a hurry.

From your lips to JJ's ears ;) ;)
Count me in as not happy (to put it mildly) at all with this casting choice :mad: :mad:

tru_angel
06-07-2005, 12:55 AM
Hey Ana-Lucia!!! Open this box from the drug plane for me....OOPS. Problem of Ana-Lucia solved quick fast and in a hurry.

:crackup: That was perfect! :thud: Late, Ana!

No...the thing w/ her charcter is (other than the fact that we're all just speculating and throwing ourselves in a tizzy for nothing) is that if she's ON the island, than how is her group living? Our survivors have a little society (or 2 actually) going. Do the tail people have that? are there many of them? she may be running around like a maniac...like Danielle.

But that said...I've seen almost all MRodregeze's movies, but DEF. not for her. She's terrible - the girl even got to kiss Colin Farrell...UGH!!!

Sanitation
06-07-2005, 01:10 AM
I dont think Ana is going to last long.... she will end up probably dead....

Exactly my thoughts.
Dude, half of Michelle Rodriguez's roles she ends up dead.

Ana Costa
06-07-2005, 01:24 AM
Exactly my thoughts.
Dude, half of Michelle Rodriguez's roles she ends up dead.:crackup:
That was funny !!! I hope this is the case here too...

And we are always anxious, worried that one of the MAIN 14 original characters will be killed off... and we NOW know the producers do intend on killing some of the main parts... so if they are willing to kill the MAIN characters why wouldn't they be willing to kill secondary characters too ?

When they signed Ian to play Boone they didn't tell him he would be dead before the end of the season... so MR's Ana Lucia might be reported as a SURE thing for season 2 and STILL end up dead after 3 episodes.
I wouldn't count her in for good...

Sitily
06-07-2005, 01:30 AM
I am joining this thread!!!!

Ana-Lucia is on my hit list.
And I am waiting for the Artz moment when we see her blow to bits and cheer!

-Sitily

LostWord
06-07-2005, 01:58 AM
anacosta, some of us were thinking of writing(yeah I know what's with all the writing?) in support of JACK. Just Jack. :) In support of the things we love about his character so that way maybe they will think twice before they try to ruin him--like his core of compassion, kindness and committment to protecting others. We wouldn't want him to completely lose that 'nice way about him" as Rose termed it. :)

Ana Costa
06-07-2005, 02:08 AM
anacosta, some of us were thinking of writing(yeah I know what's with all the writing?) in support of JACK. Just Jack. :) In support of the things we love about his character so that way maybe they will think twice before they try to ruin him--like his core of compassion, kindness and committment to protecting others. We wouldn't want him to completely lose that 'nice way about him" as Rose termed it. :)LostWord I think that is a great idea. I am writing 2 letters this week. One about Jack and a second one about Jate. I'll mail the Jack letter first, and the Jate letter a few days later. I don't want to send both on the same day because they might get read on the same day and I want Jack's letter to be read first since to me it is the most important one.

I hope other Jack/Matthew fans also write.
I doubt the opinion of a Brazilian matters all that much to the producers and writers. Afterall we can't change the US ratings all the way from Rio de Janeiro.

It's important that the US fans write ! ;)

I am also thinking about writing a third letter about ANA LUCIA...
To let the writers and producers know I think AL was vulgar in that first scene and that it is offensive to me that they want to create a vulgar LATIN character. This has been done MANY times in US movies and it's about time they stop that.

As a Latin woman I wish to be represented with the same respect they represent the other women in the show. Enough of stereotyping Latin women! Ana Lucia could be portrayed as a very carring and sweet person, which is one of the main characteritics of South American people. Yet the producers seem to be going on the "vulgar" direction as almost every US movies does. Its a shame. Characters from Canada, Australia, UK and the US are portrayed better. Even old time "enemy" Irak is portrayed as a honored character. WHY make the Latin one be vulgar ?
It's gross and I'll make sure they know what I think about it.

I HOPE Ana Lucia ISN'T Brazilian... not if they plan on creating a vulgar woman. That would be a total turn off for us down here.

Sanitation
06-07-2005, 10:03 AM
LostWord I think that is a great idea. I am writing 2 letters this week. One about Jack and a second one about Jate. I'll mail the Jack letter first, and the Jate letter a few days later. I don't want to send both on the same day because they might get read on the same day and I want Jack's letter to be read first since to me it is the most important one.

I hope other Jack/Matthew fans also write.
I doubt the opinion of a Brazilian matters all that much to the producers and writers. Afterall we can't change the US ratings all the way from Rio de Janeiro.

It's important that the US fans write ! ;)

I am also thinking about writing a third letter about ANA LUCIA...
To let the writers and producers know I think AL was vulgar in that first scene and that it is offensive to me that they want to create a vulgar LATIN character. This has been done MANY times in US movies and it's about time they stop that.

As a Latin woman I wish to be represented with the same respect they represent the other women in the show. Enough of stereotyping Latin women! Ana Lucia could be portrayed as a very carring and sweet person, which is one of the main characteritics of South American people. Yet the producers seem to be going on the "vulgar" direction as almost every US movies does. Its a shame. Characters from Canada, Australia, UK and the US are portrayed better. Even old time "enemy" Irak is portrayed as a honored character. WHY make the Latin one be vulgar ?
It's gross and I'll make sure they know what I think about it.

I HOPE Ana Lucia ISN'T Brazilian... not if they plan on creating a vulgar woman. That would be a total turn off for us down here.


Woo.. No wonder you dont like her.
I'm just going to give you an advice. If you dont like vulgar, latin women...
Don't watch any of Michelle Rodriguez' movies. ;)

ebs
06-07-2005, 10:35 AM
I have mixed feelings about her joining the show. I think there's a place for her character and I'd really like to see them bring other survivors forward, while some existing ones fade briefly into the background (but definitely NOT get killed). I just wish SHE was not the person they chose to give romantic competition to Kate for Jack's affections.

I like Kate, but her backstory has turned out to be pretty dark and I'm bothered by the fact there are only 4 women on the show, and 3 of those are the "helpless" types and the only remaining woman who is very capable is also a young criminal. From a realistic point of view, it is reasonably likely that a female equivalent to Jack survived (a good, nice, professional, conflicted, pretty woman) and I think adding someone like that to the mix would be a GOOD thing.

But I don't see Ana Lucia as an equivalent to Jack and given what we know about his character, she sure doesn't seem like the kind of gal he'd be drawn to. I like the idea of Kate having to compete for Jack, instead of her sitting back and just choosing between Jack and Sawyer. But Ana Lucia is not someone I want to see as a romantic potential for Jack. I don't mind her as a freedom fighting, kick-ass "lets bring it" to the Others kind of character, but I definintely don't want her and Jack hooking up.

LostWord
06-07-2005, 11:39 AM
I have to admit "helpless" is the last thing I think of when I think of Sun. Considering her background, she's quickly shown alot of independence, she also happens to love her husband that's all. I don't have a problem with Kate's dark background--there have been many tv shows based around male heroes with dark backgrounds I don't think there is anything wrong with having a lead female featured in such a role.

to let the writers and producers know I think AL was vulgar in that first scene and that it is offensive to me that they want to create a vulgar LATIN character. This has been done MANY times in US movies and it's about time they stop that.

As a Latin woman I wish to be represented with the same respect they represent the other women in the show. Enough of stereotyping Latin women! Ana Lucia could be portrayed as a very carring and sweet person, which is one of the main characteritics of South American people.

Ana, don't. ;) By which I mean don't suggest to them ways to change her--then they'll just keep her around and she'll not only kick more a$$ than Jack, Sayid and Locke combined, she'll also be sweeter than Sun and Hurley combined on their best days. :) They won't want to be accused of being "unpolitically correct"(in fact I already have visions of perfect Ana the angel--her name is Ana Lucia after all--stronger, kinder, more compassionate, smarter, better than everyone else at everything who if we're lucky enough to have them kill her off will die the most selflessly heroic death ever died :D )

And also I don't think their intention is create someone rude, etc--in fact going by the manner in which it was filmed it was clear they were trying to make everyone think "Oh isn't she refreshingly straightforward and quirky! How disarmingly charming!". It just so happens it failed and she came across as abrasive, uncouth, nasty...etc, etc, etc. :) Mainly because that is pretty much the only thing Michelle Rodriguez CAN play.

She won't be Brazilian I don't think, she'll probably be American of some sort of Hispanic parentage. In real life she is of Dominican and Puerto Rican background and was raised partly in New Jersey(which as a New Jerseyan gives me no pleasure in admitting) and believe me, she hasn't done anything to bring up the already low stock of "Jersey Girls" either(who are generally portrayed as low class and uncouth. ) ;)

ebs
06-07-2005, 11:59 AM
I guess we disagree about Sun -- she is definitely not a strong woman IMO. The only strong, highly competent, highly intelligent female characters we have on the show are Kate (who they've labeled a criminal) and The French Chick (who they've made a bit wacked). I don't like that kind of stereotypical representation and I'm glad there is a character to combat that, whether its Ana Lucia or someone else.

And I definitely consider Kate's backstory dark. She's committed a number of crimes, lied repeatedly to Jack and others for her own benefit, encouraged Sun to poisin Jin, etc, etc. And we still don't know why her mother screamed bloody murder when Kate tried to visit her in the hospital. There's a big difference between being conflicted with past mistakes and being a criminal / con person. I really do like Kate, but she has a helluva lot more flaws than a person like Jack. She actually planned a bank robbery just to get a keepsake and put a lot of people at risk for that. I would have preferred they make her backstory less dark; I think the only reason I still like her is that Evie's sweet personality comes through her character.

Carmel Cutie
06-07-2005, 12:08 PM
Lost word, you are brilliant. Wow. lol
and yeah, Ana, it's a good idea that you write. I would be offended too! But go with what lostword said. They'll just make her too sweet to hate. That would SUCK. I'd still hate her. I.e. Lauren Reed of Alias. GOD! anyone else notice INSANE patterns here???

Adelheid
06-07-2005, 12:18 PM
Anyways... many Skaters say they love Ana Lucia and that she is perfect for Jack. I am sure they only say that because they want to root for Sawyer & Kate. What better way to get Kate with Sawyer than to get Jack out of the way. Actually... that's the only way to get Kate & Sawyer together, so they will root for Ana Lucia always.
ASSUMING ALERT! ASSUMING ALERT! Look, I don't like Ana, I don't hate Ana. And I do not want Ana to be with Jack. Personally, I don't want Ana to be with anyone. And guess what? What better way to get Sawyer out of the way by getting Ana in there!? Geez. Sorry if I'm really exploding, but it gets on my nerves when people assume stuff and be hypocrites. I really don't want a ship war, but I'm trying to stop this ship war by ending the assumptions!
Okay, I think Ana might have been introduced to be killed off, like Arzt (god, I hated Arzt). Lets say Jack and other peoplages go off and search for Danielle who might know what's going on with Walt. And lets say Jack meets up with Ana and her tail-end buddies. Then, they go together to find Danielle and somehow Ana dies or gets killed. Like, Danielle shoots her, or she falls off a cliff while being chased by the monster/security system whatever-the-hell-it-is. I'd like to see how Jack would deal with that. It adds angst, and maybe Kate will feel sorry for him. Now how does that help Jate that Ana came in, eh? ;)

Carmel Cutie
06-07-2005, 12:21 PM
If Ana's going to be killed off, why is she listed as a season regular?

ShadedSkies
06-07-2005, 12:28 PM
Well, i'm not against a new character coming in LOST, as long as she does NOT take over Kate's character!! :mad: i'll be pretty annoyed if she does.
As for Jate, it doesn't really matter to me, cause i'm more of a skater ;) lol

ontheceiling
06-07-2005, 12:30 PM
If she's going to die, she may die at the end of the season, or somewhere around there. That's when Boone died.

But hey, I'm all for Ana if she keeps Sawyer away from Kate, IMO.

Carmel Cutie
06-07-2005, 12:30 PM
Many believe she will take over Kate's character. I'm not positive about this, because their characters are nothing alike. I just think she will take the airtime fully deserved by Evangeline.

ontheceiling
06-07-2005, 12:33 PM
I don't think someone named "full-time guest" or whatever it was would take over kate's character. They're not going to bring in a new character second season to completely turn around what they have already established.

If Ana is a new character, we can expect her to bring a new dynamic to the show, as her and Kate are so different. No, I don't like the idea of her character, but I do like the idea of new plot points and character interactions.

Carmel Cutie
06-07-2005, 12:35 PM
Yeah, but she's not a full time guest. Check the lost-media. she was recently added as a cast member. Too, JJ already said that he wanted to bring in totally new characters and change the show around. No thanks, man. That sucks.

~Paula~
06-07-2005, 12:38 PM
:) i don't like Ana for so many reasons! first i haaate that they killed Boone and are bringing new characters, i hate new characters!!!! so no matter what how is Ana Lucia, what is she gonna do, etc etc, just knowing that they're bringing a new character makes me really really mad...
then i don't like Michelle Rodriguez, that tough anti-girl thing she has going on..not good, and besides what Ana(costa) said, she's giving a latin women image that is just wrong!
also as a Jack fan i agree 100% with Ana(costa) if she's introduced as a love interest for Jack and he responds it'll be so so out of character for him, they'll ruin him...
and finally as a jate fan i'd like to see Kate having a little competition, having to fight a little for Jack but not with Ana Lucia..she's just wrong..and if they're gonna just put her in the middle breaking Jate apart i'll be really disappointed at the show...

So count me in! we've only seen a few of her but she already got my nerves, i hate her!

Carmel Cutie
06-07-2005, 12:40 PM
April, I agree with what you said about it being out of character for him. I think that's what other were saying when they were talkinga bout writing letters to the writers about not ruining his character. It really would ruin his reputation, in my opinion.

ontheceiling
06-07-2005, 12:41 PM
True, we're comfortable with what has been established. We love the characters, we love their relationships, and no one wants to see that boat rocked.

I just think that this thread should not be grounds for a ship war. This is only for people who don't like her character. I'm sure that the people here understand that her character will bring about possibly exciting moments in the show, but that isn't what this thread is about.

As viewers, and people, we are allowed to dislike a character. The word "pointless" in the title shouldn't be taken to mean that she has no place, but rather the emotion involved with it.

No one wants a war. Let's just keep the peace.

:D

Carmel Cutie
06-07-2005, 12:42 PM
Thanks Kate, ditto.

Marystat
06-07-2005, 12:47 PM
Woah..lotsa Ana hate here....personally I have no opinion on her yet...I will wait and see what happens.

And I have to respectfully disagree with those who are Anti Ana, I do not consider Ana a threat..and I will shock Skaters by saying this...if she has as MUCH chemistry with Sawyer as Kate do I am not gonna lay my head down and cry if they become a couple...like I said I will wait and see..of course I am still hoping for Skate! And yes I feel the same way about if she hooks up with Jack. NO it is NOT to get Jack away from Kate so it is home free for Skate to happen. To me it is all about chemistry, sparks etc...that is what makes me ship ppl.

But please don't make this yet another ship war...to say many Skaters this..and many Jaters that..we HAVE been down this road before...time to put that to rest please! Now I have no problem with Ana Lucia to be a regular on the show but I do have one concern..I do hope Michelle Rodriguez do not steal the spotlight on the other actors on the show, cos that would be a real kick in the face to the actors and crew who MADE this show the way it is...THAT would make me hate Ana Lucia's characer and possible Michelle Rodriguez. THAT is what I do NOT want happening at all.

Carmel Cutie
06-07-2005, 12:48 PM
Hey guys, you know what? This is ridiculous. This thread is for people who dislike Ana to talk. Ana supporters really have no place being here, like Kate said. If We came in and stormed the Ana rocks thread, saying things like "ana sucks! she should die!" We'd be considered trolls. The only reason you guys can't be accused of the same thing is because you are on the positive side, which is always looked up to on these boards, naturally. So please, let us have our opinion, and OUR THREAD, and you can have yours. Please. Leave it.

ebs
06-07-2005, 12:58 PM
Hey guys, you know what? This is ridiculous. This thread is for people who dislike Ana to talk. Ana supporters really have no place being here, like Kate said. If We came in and stormed the Ana rocks thread, saying things like "ana sucks! she should die!" We'd be considered trolls. The only reason you guys can't be accused of the same thing is because you are on the positive side, which is always looked up to on these boards, naturally. So please, let us have our opinion, and OUR THREAD, and you can have yours. Please. Leave it.

Hey, I like parts of her character and dislike parts of her character (as we're speculating on it, since no one here knows anything for certain). No one here is obligated to agree 100% with your views to post on this thread. People having different points of view comes with the territory of expressing an opinion; that's the risk you take when you post a strong negative opinion about a yet to be developed character.

And there is no "neutral" Ana Lucia thread for those of us who have mixed feelings, so it's either here or in the other thread.

Ariah81
06-07-2005, 01:33 PM
We haven't seen too much of her character so far, now have we.

The opinion of a character can change many a time during the show; I'd wait with hating her till she actually appears on the Island...

tru_angel
06-07-2005, 05:17 PM
I have mixed feelings about her joining the show. I think there's a place for her character and I'd really like to see them bring other survivors forward, while some existing ones fade briefly into the background (but definitely NOT get killed). I just wish SHE was not the person they chose to give romantic competition to Kate for Jack's affections.

I like Kate, but her backstory has turned out to be pretty dark and I'm bothered by the fact there are only 4 women on the show, and 3 of those are the "helpless" types and the only remaining woman who is very capable is also a young criminal. From a realistic point of view, it is reasonably likely that a female equivalent to Jack survived (a good, nice, professional, conflicted, pretty woman) and I think adding someone like that to the mix would be a GOOD thing.

But I don't see Ana Lucia as an equivalent to Jack and given what we know about his character, she sure doesn't seem like the kind of gal he'd be drawn to. I like the idea of Kate having to compete for Jack, instead of her sitting back and just choosing between Jack and Sawyer. But Ana Lucia is not someone I want to see as a romantic potential for Jack. I don't mind her as a freedom fighting, kick-ass "lets bring it" to the Others kind of character, but I definintely don't want her and Jack hooking up.


Just reading over the last few posts (which I agree with, by the way...I'm gonna attach "by the way" to everything from now on...luv ya charlie).

Anyways , bad with the digressions, but my thought is this: We know for sure that spawn of satan Michelle Rodregez is gonna be on our show, and Samuel Jackson, too...so why wouldn't there be others? Actors whose names we just don't know yet? M. Rod. doesn't have to be a love interest for Jack (hopefully not Sawyer, either, but I see that as more likley to happen w/ my plot ideas),it could be someone else. Another new character. Maybe a female Doc. on the other side of the isle? Just struck me...can't believe it took that long to think of!

ebs
06-07-2005, 05:22 PM
Just reading over the last few posts (which I agree with, by the way...I'm gonna attach "by the way" to everything from now on...luv ya charlie).

Anyways , bad with the digressions, but my thought is this: We know for sure that spawn of satan Michelle Rodregez is gonna be on our show, and Samuel Jackson, too...so why wouldn't there be others? Actors whose names we just don't know yet? M. Rod. doesn't have to be a love interest for Jack (hopefully not Sawyer, either, but I see that as more likley to happen w/ my plot ideas),it could be someone else. Another new character. Maybe a female Doc. on the other side of the isle? Just struck me...can't believe it took that long to think of!

Very, very good point, there are probably other characters that we have no idea are coming who might be great additions. :)

Carmel Cutie
06-07-2005, 06:03 PM
EBS: if you want to, then go on the other thread. Or start a neutral thread. this is clearly a negative feelings thread. and i never said anything about having to agree with all my opinions. I agree with what many people say, as long as they are RESPECTFUL of mine.

Stace
06-07-2005, 06:23 PM
Yes we havent seen much of her character, but what we have seen... he don't like.

And you know what they say about first impressions...

ebs
06-07-2005, 06:44 PM
EBS: if you want to, then go on the other thread. Or start a neutral thread. this is clearly a negative feelings thread. and i never said anything about having to agree with all my opinions. I agree with what many people say, as long as they are RESPECTFUL of mine.

Sorry, but I think my posts were appropriate in this thread; I've said there are things I don't like about her character, if you've fully read my posts. That most certainly belongs on this thread, as does my full opinion of the character.

Moreover, I did not view your comments as respectful, implying that anyone who disagreed with you was essentially a troll to this thread. (The word "troll" was from your original post telling us to leave this thread, not my creation -- or more specifically, you said that if you posted negative comments in the other Michelle Rodriguez / Ana Lucia threads, you'd "be considered trolls. The only reason you guys can't be accused of the same thing is because you are on the positive side...")

lunakasha
06-07-2005, 06:57 PM
EBS: if you want to, then go on the other thread. Or start a neutral thread. this is clearly a negative feelings thread. and i never said anything about having to agree with all my opinions. I agree with what many people say, as long as they are RESPECTFUL of mine.

By insisting that ebs and others go to another thread, you are basically saying that we DO have to agree with your opinions. I don't think that anyone has the right to banish people from a thread, as long as we disagree RESPECTFULLY. And I did not feel that ebs was being disrespectful at all.

tetaelzbieta
06-07-2005, 07:05 PM
Guess what? No one has to leave if they don't want to. How about we discuss intelligently rather than trying to ban people from posting in a thread, when all they're attempting to do is express their thoughts. There's no need for an "I'm neutral about Ana Lucia" thread.

*Pauly*
06-07-2005, 08:28 PM
Not all threads are for discussing things intelligently though :D ;)

TakeAbyte
06-07-2005, 08:34 PM
Sorry guys I have to ask this...

Ana is in a flashback that Jack has??

But she is on the island??

I missed a couple of shows and I think she was in one of them because I have no idea who she is...

lunakasha
06-07-2005, 08:39 PM
At this point, we have only seen Ana in one flashback scene with Jack, while they were in the airport. (Exodus Part I). She told Jack she was sitting in the back of the plane.

We are speculating that she and others may have survived the crash and are living on another part of the island. But that has not been proven or disproven yet....

Welcome to the forums, TakeAbyte!!! :)

Sanitation
06-07-2005, 08:42 PM
Okokokok. I know we're in the middle of an Ana likers vs Ana haters war in here, but can I interrupt you for one post?
WHAT! SAMUEL JACKSON IS COMING ON LOST?!?!
O_o That's just awkward.. I mean, Michelle and Samuel already worked on SWAT together... Kinda wierd.

NuclearMisfit
06-07-2005, 08:53 PM
I just hope they dont get too big with the hollywood stars coming as guests on LOST. It would be too tacky and wouldnt help the show any.

Stace
06-07-2005, 08:55 PM
Not all threads are for discussing things intelligently though
Leave it to Paul to find a loop-hole!

And, No, Sam Jackson isn't coming to Lost, it was a false spoiler.

TakeAbyte
06-07-2005, 08:56 PM
Ahh very interesting.

Thanks for the Welcome too! :)

Sanitation
06-07-2005, 11:10 PM
I just hope they dont get too big with the hollywood stars coming as guests on LOST. It would be too tacky and wouldnt help the show any.
I second that.
Phew. Thank god Sam's not coming on. Like he's great and all, but like NuclearMisfit said, it'd be too 'tacky'...
Plus it'd make them seem totally desperate or something.

micheline215
06-08-2005, 09:01 AM
i don't like Ana for so many reasons! first i haaate that they killed Boone and are bringing new characters

This is my take for all new characters. If Boone had to die because of "narrative" issues and to bring about the conflict of Jack vs Locke (which could've been brought about another way but moving on) then why are we bringing in all these new people? Are they cannon fodder(RIP ARSE)so certain characters remain untouchable or are they also "narrative imperatives" to move the story along?

And if these "narrative imperatives" are needed to advance the core story why of all people Michelle Rodriguez?! Has she done anything but tough babe roles? I'm sure her agent is jumping up and down with glee but he/she seems to be the only one other than M-Rod herself.

I don't think we know enough about Jack to know what type of woman he really likes. How many straight laced seeming guys marry the right woman and keep a wild child on the side? I'm not vested in the Jate and Skate wars so I'm just stating my opinion. I still haven't moved from the Ana go boom point of view but just want to move this discussion into deeper waters than an ship war.

And if women like Ana(costa) object to a stereotype being perpetrated in the character of Ana-Lucia then I think her feelings and objections should bear more weight than anything any of us non Latina's say.

Regarding Kate's story being dark I actually like that she is such a dark character. We still don't know what she did. All we know about so far is the fall out from her actions.

So please be a regular like the late unlamented Arse Ana. Go play in the drug plane wreck or something. Like ep two or three of S2. Toodles.

Carmel Cutie
06-08-2005, 01:55 PM
Micheline~ I totally agree with all you said. It doesn't make sense with the storylines, and no, she hasn't done anything but tough babe roles. Like blue crush. ugh. Kill me. LAME

Ana Costa
06-08-2005, 08:08 PM
...And if women like Ana(costa) object to a stereotype being perpetrated in the character of Ana-Lucia then I think her feelings and objections should bear more weight than anything any of us non Latina's say...
There is one thing I am 100% sure of. The public that watches LOST in Brazil is from high media class and higher. Because cable and satellite in Brazil is very expensive and only citizens with larger income can afford it.

Also, most of those that watch US shows have very high education, and speak English besides native Portuguese. These are people that are sophisticated, that have traveled around the world and do not have anything to do with the stereotype movies like to set for Latin people, specially Women.

If Lost producers create the typical stereotyped overly sexual Latin female, they will brush away many Latin women from watching the show.
It's disrespectful and a big turn off. An intellectual turn off.

Whit
06-08-2005, 08:41 PM
Ok, I need to vent :mad: I just did a painful thing and wrote an Ana/Jack scene and ewwww! I swear if that girl messes up my Jate dreams I'm gonna go psycho :p

tgiwjater
06-08-2005, 08:48 PM
i actually like michelle rodriguez, and her character ( i found her very charming actually)

BUT NOT ON THIS SHOW, NOT ON THIS ISLAND, AND ESPECIALLY NOWHERE NEAR JATE!!!!!!

:mad::rant: *vent* :rant::mad:

Whit
06-08-2005, 08:51 PM
I agree, I like Michelle, I just don't want Jate to be in danger :(

Carmel Cutie
06-08-2005, 09:08 PM
awww whit, don't ruin your Jaterness! that would SUCK!
and TGIWjater, you're right. nowhere near Jate. And if that makes me naive, whatever. I'm sick of being judged for being an Ana hater. But I'm still proud of it.
Also: You thought her character was charming? Hmm. I only saw hard headed. Lol.

tetaelzbieta
06-08-2005, 09:13 PM
Man, what are you guys going to do if Jate never happens? Not because of Ana Lucia or something, but just because it's not how the show's written?

Carmel Cutie
06-08-2005, 09:21 PM
That's a tough one... I really don't know.
But, since JJ already assured that Jate would be the endgame, I'm not too worried. I'm just focusing on what I'll do in the meantime till it does happen.

tetaelzbieta
06-08-2005, 09:24 PM
When did he say that? I don't doubt you or anything, I must have just missed it. It sure does take the suspense out of everything, even if Jate is entirely predictable.

Carmel Cutie
06-08-2005, 09:25 PM
It was a while ago, back when the show first started, it may MAY have been in that Entertainment Weekly article with Jate on the cover. I'm not sure though. I just know that he said it. Sorry I can't tell ya exactly where. But yeah, it is entirely predictable anyway.

lunakasha
06-08-2005, 10:37 PM
Man, what are you guys going to do if Jate never happens? Not because of Ana Lucia or something, but just because it's not how the show's written?

Good question....

I have noticed a couple of people here saying that they don't really object to Ana or Michelle, as long as she does not interfere with Jate. So it will be interesting to see how people react toward her if she ends up being a completely different character than we are expecting, based upon the brief scene she has appeared in. I really don't see her as a threat to Jate, at least not yet....I mean, she hasn't even met Kate yet, and doesn't realize Jack is alive and on the island.

How many days till the new season....anyone have a countdown going??? :eek:

:) Luna

castaway
06-08-2005, 10:40 PM
I didn't like michelle rodgriguez from day one. more so that this character is getting with jack.

Carmel Cutie
06-08-2005, 10:43 PM
Yeah. I don't like Michelle either. But I'm not judging Ana off that. I need to judge her from what I've seen. And that, I did not like.

lunakasha
06-08-2005, 10:45 PM
I didn't like michelle rodgriguez from day one. more so that this character is getting with jack.

Again....this is an assumption, but nothing has happened yet, other than a brief flirtation in the airport. Not trying to be argumentative but....I guess I am withholding judgement until we see how Ana interacts with everyone on the island. And, more importantly, how Jack reacts to Ana now that he is clearly interested in Kate.

:) Luna

Carmel Cutie
06-08-2005, 10:51 PM
It's an assumption, yes, but something that Jaters worry about, naturally.
It's something we know JJ is not above using (referring to the love triangle) to keep true love apart. So we are worried. Assuming, and worried.

lunakasha
06-08-2005, 10:56 PM
Yes....of course, I understand CC. I personally would rather not see Ana "hook up" with anyone either, at least not right away. I am hoping that JJ & Company will do something more with her other than add her to the existing "triangle"....I guess we will have to be patient *sigh* and see what happens.

:) Luna

~Paula~
06-09-2005, 12:13 AM
:) like i said before i really don't like that they killed Boone but are bringing new characters (this is my number one reason for not liking Ana Lucia) and among my other reasons you all guys made me think of new ones! like i really really hope that our assumptions are wrong because if she's introduced as a love interest for Jack (or even Sawyer who knows) this would be sooooo stupid! we're not watching a soap opera!!!!!!! (i don't remember who said that but i agree 100%) argh i hate that Alias proves that is not unusual for JJ to do all this love triagles...i'm really not that worried just pissed, i'm a big fan of status quo and i hate knowing that they in fact are gonna introduce who knows how many new characters and probably disappear some of our 14/13 loved ones...the characters are the soul/essence of this show and if they're gonna change them that'd make me quit watching...

castaway
06-09-2005, 01:48 AM
okay, yah i'm assuming that they're going to get together but the way the preview of her with jack went and that shes going to be a leader whatever it certainly looks that way.

Carmel Cutie
06-09-2005, 04:22 PM
wait, what preview? do share.

Sanitation
06-10-2005, 09:51 AM
Maybe he/she (are you a he or a she? Too lazy to check profile) is talking about the 2 minute scene Ana was on.

Carmel Cutie
06-10-2005, 07:53 PM
oh ok. Lol. i think she. too lazy too. sorry castaway. lol

JayCee
06-11-2005, 11:02 AM
I'll admit right away I haven't read through this whole thread (mea culpa), so please feel free to ignore me ... but would it help to know that the spoiler info about Michelle Rodriguez coming back next season as Ana was apparently false (along with the spoiler that a cast member was getting killed due to contract dispute)

http://lost-forum.com/showpost.php?p=210245&postcount=180

(hope that link works)

CORRECTION:

Ignore what I just said ... though the KROQ interview was fake, other sources apparently confirm Rodriguez is on the cast next season [that'll teach me to go posting without more research]

Carmel Cutie
06-11-2005, 01:11 PM
It's SUCH a shame that her being on the show wasn't false. That would have made my summer.

missdarksoul
06-11-2005, 01:31 PM
gah stupid bitch who can't stay out of peoples buisness.

Carmel Cutie
06-11-2005, 04:58 PM
:giggles: I feel so mean but... ugh! lol I don't care. I know this isn't about the actress... i just can't stand her anyway.

Pie
06-12-2005, 01:53 AM
Awe, come on guys, give her a chance! Her scene was, what, five minutes long? And she's probably dead, anyway (The spoilers about her coming back next season have been confirmed as false) :( . Anyway, you hate her because she *may* be a threat to Jate? Even if she is, no relationship can be all lollipops and rainbows. Ask yourselves, if she had approached Sawyer like that, would she be a "pointless, evil character" ? Or what if it was Kate saying those things to jack? Would you hate Kate, than? *shrug*

Sorry if I offended anyone...if I did, feel free to pummel me :D.

Edit: Just found out that MR is indeed a season two cast member...please ignore the "she's dead" thing...;)

Carmel Cutie
06-12-2005, 02:33 PM
Well, the spoiler actually isn't false. It was a different rumor that was proven false.
And yeah, I hate her anyway. I adon't need to give her a chance. No point in it, if I don't want to. Sawyer is already enough of an interloper. I can't stand Jater Haters.

Pie
06-12-2005, 03:00 PM
I know about the whole rumor thing now...don't hate me ;)

And I certainly don't hate Jate, nor its shippers. I just think it's a bit silly to hate a character and the actress that portrays her because that character may come between a potential couple. See, if Jack and Kate were already together, and Ana Lucia came into the picture, I can see reasons for hating her, but Jack and Kate aren't together. If Jack does hook up with Ana, remember, it'll be HIS CHOICE. Ana isn't forcing him or anything...

Carmel Cutie
06-12-2005, 04:12 PM
Jack and Kate will get together. It's unrealistic to say that Jack has no attachments to Kate. Because he clearly does. Sorry, but yeah. And my disliking the actress has NOTHING to do with the fact that she's invading my show. I never liked her. Since Blue Crush. So don't think I'm that Naive. I'm a little more mature than that.

Leigh
06-12-2005, 06:37 PM
Boooooooo! Booooooooo! I hate you all.

That is all.

;)

Carmel Cutie
06-12-2005, 06:59 PM
wtf? lol Whatever. To each his own.

Pie
06-12-2005, 07:51 PM
Jack and Kate will get together. It's unrealistic to say that Jack has no attachments to Kate. Because he clearly does. Sorry, but yeah. And my disliking the actress has NOTHING to do with the fact that she's invading my show. I never liked her. Since Blue Crush. So don't think I'm that Naive. I'm a little more mature than that.

You're right, they probably will get together...it'll take time, though. I'm sure that they are not going to run across the beach into each others arms in the next episode. I'm just saying, that there are two people in each relationship. If Jack and Ana get together, jack will have had as much part in it as Ana, therefore I think that if you would hate Ana for interferring with Jate, you would have as much reason to hate Jack, as well.

Carmel Cutie
06-12-2005, 08:11 PM
No, I don't think so. If she didn't go after him (this is all hypothetical, not saying this will happen) then it wouldn't be his fault a relationship started. Whatever. I don't have to justify my feelings. It's just what I think.
Jate will happen too. I know it takes time. Trust me. As an Alias fan, I know how to hang on.

Sanitation
06-12-2005, 11:56 PM
I'm just going to bring up a point. Just because she was 'vulgar' and being 'flirty' to Jack at the airport, it doesn't mean that she's going to be like that again when they meet her at the island. It changes you when you crash at an island with some wierd black smoke hunting down and killing people, as well as some crazy french lady running around claiming to see 'others'. I wouldn't worry about Ana interfering with Jack/Kate..

Carmel Cutie
06-13-2005, 12:08 AM
True, she may act differently when not trying to pick up guys. But, she's still her, and people don't change completely. Look at Sawyer. He's still vindictive and a redneck. But, who knows? I guess a 100% turnaround is possible.

Eternally
06-15-2005, 03:46 PM
Haha so Stacie (LostObsessor), Holly (Sway), and I had this brilliant idea about Ana and who we should ship her with. And out of a lack of anything worthy for her, we came up with Ana.........and a piece of crap. :D Original huh??

Stace
06-15-2005, 03:48 PM
LOL yes yes it's true. Ana/crap is my OTP.

Turd Face
06-15-2005, 06:50 PM
DUDE WTF??? Why are you guys hating on Ana??? She's like, the best character ever!!! That's why i ship Ana/me aka Ana/Piece of crap!! :D

Sway
06-15-2005, 06:53 PM
w00t! Ana/Crap is OTP!! :D :D

Stace
06-15-2005, 07:10 PM
Turd Face, what is wrong with you? Why would you call yourself a piece of crap?

Foxys_Ducati
06-15-2005, 07:33 PM
Ana/Crap is fine by me!! But not Ana/Jack!! :D

Stace
06-15-2005, 07:35 PM
Ana/Sawyer isn't good either.

Carmel Cutie
06-15-2005, 08:01 PM
turd face, I love you. hahaha lmfao.....

Sway
06-16-2005, 02:05 AM
LOL don't we all just love the Turd?? hehe. Stacie: He calls himself Turd because he doesn't know any better! ;) *shifty eyes*

Turd Face
06-21-2005, 03:35 PM
Turd Face, what is wrong with you? Why would you call yourself a piece of crap?

BECAUSE I AM!! HOLLER!!! I love that i am a piece of crap. I embrace it. :D

Pink Pinker
06-21-2005, 05:32 PM
Okay I just found this thread and I have some things to say:

I'm probably one of the few Jaters who doesn't hate Ana, yet. I mean, really, we saw about 5 minutes of her. I feel we really need to see the next season before we can say she is ruining Jack and Kate's relationship. I still dislike her, though. Not because I fear her ruining Jate. I feel that LOST doesn't need a celebirty. Nothing against M.R., but I prefer LOST without famous faces. Sometimes it gets really hard for me watch movies with famous people without thinking about all the stuff I read in magazines about them. One reason I love LOST is, yah, it's a popular show, but unlike Desperate Housewives, the tabloids aren't filled with how the casts hates each other every week. I'm thinking that adding M.R. might start more of this. I would be PO'd if in "The Star" I started reading about how E.Lilly and Michelle hate each other, or whatever. I also think adding her just to add tension between Jack and Kate would be a very week plot point.

I do they she came off pushy in the bar, and she was not a person I would like very much, but who knows? She could be one of the greatest things to hapen to the show, and we don't know it yet. I doubt that, though. I'm not the happiest person in the world about her coming onto the show, but I'm going to wait it out and see what happens. I could totally change my opinion on her next season. Heck, we all thought Sawyer was annoying jerk when we first started watching LOST, but now alot of people love him. Why is this? Because we got to learn MORE about him and his BACKSTORY. What do we know about Ana? I feel we might get to learn alot more about her, and maybe you'll learn to like her. I'm not pleased with her addition, but we might love her by this time next year. Who knows? You can't base opinions on characters by watching for 5 minutes, in my humble opinion.

*wipes brow* Did that make any sense?

icyfirebubbles
06-21-2005, 05:52 PM
Hannah, I already said this before, but I totally agree with everything you said. We don't know anything about Ana, so we don't really have a reason to hate her. (Even though it's fun to have someone to poke at sometimes... ;))

Pink Pinker
06-21-2005, 05:58 PM
Hannah, I already said this before, but I totally agree with everything you said. We don't know anything about Ana, so we don't really have a reason to hate her. (Even though it's fun to have someone to poke at sometimes... ;))

Don't we have Sawyer for that?? Haha, just kidding. :p

trishaislost
06-21-2005, 06:38 PM
that makes a lot of sense. I love Lost too because all the actors aren't so high-profile and it's nice to see fresh faces who you just fall in love with. I don't want M.R. to have all the attention or take over Kate's role as leading lady (won't happen!). I think the cast as it is now is perfect. I can see M.R.'s addition as well as others leading up to conflict/plot change.

JackNCharlieLuva
06-25-2005, 01:32 PM
PinkPinker, i'm with you. except for the sawyer thing, yeah he does have his moments but he's not a person i would like if i were on that island. (besides the fact i'd probably be all over jack) i don't really know all that much about Ana yet as to hate her. i think that she did have a bit of a thing with Jack, but I don't think it will be anything that could take over Jate. i mean kate is so strong minded, and her and jack's love is pretty much unspoken so it's not like someone can just walk in and magically take over. cuz where was she season one? hmm...

Pink Pinker
06-25-2005, 01:36 PM
Well, I actually don't like Sawyer either. I just said alot of people (not me, though) like him, because they got to learn more about him.

littlelostsoul
06-25-2005, 06:52 PM
i'm a jater who likes sawyer and ana... i don't think that's being disloyal to my ship in any way... i just don't want them to get together with jack or kate... lol.. but seriously, we only saw like, five minutes of her.. i mean first impressions are important.. but if she's a series regular... we'll have a lot more to learn from her...

and i don't get why people don't like actors... i mean, you don't know any of them personally... i just say that i don't like tom cruise's views on things... but i can't say i don't like him, because everything i hear is from the t.v. or magazine... we don't KNOW these people.. it's just like shipping real people.. it's kinda stupid

and i'm personally against people and ship bashing threads.. it's a little mean... but hey, freedom of speech sooo...

lettyrodriguez01
06-30-2005, 06:38 PM
Hey guys,

I am a fan of Michelle Rodriguez and can honestly I have never seen an episode of Lost, but I am planning to watch the eps when they come out on DVD. I've always thought about watching the show, just never got round to it.

Anyway, IMO, I saw the clip of MR and Jack and even I could see maybe she was being too forward. As a Lost outsider I don't know much about the relationship between Jack & Kate but I reckon that Ana-Lucia could be there to speed things up. She might seem to be an obstacle but maybe that will help Jack admit his feelings for Kate? Something like that.

But the things is, just give Ana-Lucia a chance? whethe the character is played by MR or anybody, I reckon maybe she'll speed things up? Oh and, I know that Lost has a big following, but bringing in people like Michelle (and Sam Jackson if the rumors are true) will probably bring even more people to liking the show. You know, sort of like a "come for michelle/sam, stay for the show" thing?

I don't want to step on toes or offend anybody but that's just my two cents.

Lett,
;)

Pink Pinker
06-30-2005, 06:42 PM
Lett-
I have nothing against Michelle, just unsure about how I feel about her on the show. I don't think I've actually seen any of her movies :confused:
But, anyway, I do think you'll enjoy Lost. Alot. Also, if you plan on catching up, they are replaying the episodes ever Wednesday night at 10PM on ABC.

Poetic Girl
07-01-2005, 09:02 AM
I join the club!! Grrrrrrr Ana and also Jana...I don't like them both :mad:

Remus Lupin
07-06-2005, 04:33 PM
All right, no offense intended here.

What I absolutely deeply from the bottom of my heart hateHATEHATE is judging from first friggin' glance! We had less than two minutes of Ana-Lucia in the first season... and we have a hateclub of her right here! Why's that? What has the poor woman done to be hated? For Christ's sake, I found her very amiable, sweet and gentle! And I hate that we don't need celebrities in Lost, no familiar faces, all new actors pisses me off. Not that I have anything against the people who sait, just their principles. Michelle Rodriquez is well-known... you don't want her there... Dominic Monaghan is well-known... and you very well do want him there! It's just stupid skeptism! What would Michelle Rodriquez possibly mess up that some other unknown wouldn't? What bad would a top-celeb like Sam Jackson do bad to Lost? If something, boost the amount of the audience, and that is good.

Anyway, I didn't find anything hateable about Michelle Rodriquez's Ana-Lucia Cortez. She was an amiable, kind young woman, who I'd like to see more of.

All right, I might've barked badly at some people's principles and opinion's, but I definitely do not mean to insult anyone, not at all. I merely stated my opinion. I hope. *sheepish grin* Sometimes I can get carried away.

[Edit:] Personally, I think Jana would work out well. Then there would be Skate and I'm a Skater. Jack and Ana would probably be OK with each other as Ana seems Jack's kind of girl and Sawyer and Kate definitely tick. I want them together, but I don't want Jack to be without a girl! :) Another opinion.

Sawyer_Kate_Crazy
07-06-2005, 08:56 PM
Remus Lupin THANK YOU! :clap:

Carmel Cutie
07-07-2005, 03:09 PM
Yeah, poetic girl. Jana.... it's like, how can you ship someon who hasn't really even gotten to know each other? I makes ZERO sense. I also noticed most Jana-ers are skaters. It's funny, isnt it?

Pie
07-07-2005, 03:19 PM
It's even weirder that some people ship SAWYER and Ana Lucia. They don't even know each other! Madness. :confused:

Remus Lupin
07-09-2005, 09:34 AM
Yeah, that's dumb. Sawyer deserves Kate. Jack and Ana-Lucia tick. I'd like to see them together than Kate and Jack. And I'd LOVE to see Sawyer and Kate together.

(As you can see, I'm a 100% Skater. SKATERS SHALL WIN!!)

Pink Pinker
07-09-2005, 10:01 AM
For Christ's sake, I found her very amiable, sweet and gentle!

Amiable, sweet and gentle? If anything, I thought she was pretty pushy. Did she even say sorry about Jack's father dieing?

But your a Skater, and I'm a Jater, so obviously we're going to have different opinions on the issue ;)

Saying that, I do agree that we shouldn't be making assumptions on her character, and since we only saw her for a few minutes, we shouldn't start a hate club for her.

But should we also start shipping her with people, too? Not just Sawyer/Ana, but Jack/Ana. Yah, they flirted, but alot has changed in the past 40 days(Namely:Kate) We most definatley need to see more interaction before we start shipping her, at leasts that's how I feel.

Foxy
07-09-2005, 10:28 AM
Ok, possibly that sounds weird but there are people who don't wanna hear everybody saying "I'm sorry for your fathers death" or something like that.
Do you know what I mean? Sometimes it helps just when someone's acting like Ana did in Exodus. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not a fan of her... don't like her previous roles and I don't want to see anybody's stealing spotlight from an other actor of LOST, 'cause I love them all. But maybe she will be refreshing in her role?
I've never been a fan of Kate, so I don't like Jate as well. But that has nothing to do with my opinion about Ana.
So I'd rather see Jack going to Sawyer :p or Ana.
Anyhow I accept all the Jaters around here. :)
Each to his own! :)

Remus Lupin
07-10-2005, 09:01 AM
I know what you mean, Foxy. And I guess that's why I liked Ana. She was like amiable and all, acted normally and seemed understanding even if he wasn't saying "I'm sorry" all over the place.

But of course, the main reason I want Jack to be with Ana is that I want Kate to be with Sawyer and don't want Jack to be alone and Ana seems the best girlfriend choice for him, because Kate is better off with Sawyer. :) Not that I have anything against Jaters, I love the Jack/Kate relationship and won't mind even if the Sawyer/Kate wouldn't happen. But I would be happy if it happened. Very much happy, yes.

Irina
07-14-2005, 06:11 PM
i haven't read this thread, but i think that starting a thread against someone that you've only caught a glimpse of is silly. we don't know how her character is going to be developed and i think that she will be a wonderful addition to the cast. i know that some people will not agree with me, but don't cast judgement until you've seen more of her.

Leigh
07-14-2005, 08:40 PM
Ok....so, first off....how can you hate someone you've seen two seconds of?! Jesus...give the character a chance. Second...those of you bashing Michelle....let me state what I stated in the MR thread:

Ahem....anyways....yeah. Why does everyone hate her so much? LOL....looking over past threads....one person even said they thought she was like "trash" when they saw her on Punk'd....I don't know....I didn't see anything horrible. I know if something accidentally happend and people were yelling at me how I did it on purpose and hurt him on puropse I'd be a bit aggitated too. She was reacting realistically. That's cool to see IMO.

Her attitude was not horrible....not at all. Not due to the way the Punk'd actors were going at her. Anyway, I'm such a Michelle fan. BUT, first and foremost I'm an honest person and a true filmtv fan....yeah, most of her movies (with the exception of Girlfight).....were not cintematic masterpieces....lol. But they were just fun silly crap to watch. Big deal! She's bee typecast. She's even said it herself in interviews that the only roles she's offered are two kinds:

1. The hot girl that that A-list mega star leading man screws on screen
2. The tough girl.

She goes for #2. She has said she's not willing to "f*ck some super big male actor on screen so she can make 5 million a picture next year" (something along those lines...I paraphrased)....she'd rather just do the same routine over and over b/c at least it's more respectable, she's less exploited, and at least she gets to have fun. She recently said, "I'd rather sit here and starve then do something I don't believe in" (again, I'm paraphrasing).

I for one find that refreshing. It's a rare attitude....most girls would gladly expose themselves, screw onscreen, etc. to get a bigger part next time around. She's hell bent on doing it her way. Not to say she's 100% opposed to sex scenes....but like in Control, she made them re-write the scenes with Liotta so they only kissed and didn't have sex on screen....and in Fast and Furious, they initially just wanted Letty to just be Dom's ho. She said no way in hell and made them make her actually count for something. In the end though I recall her saying she liked the character but felt regret about the whole Letty/Dom ass grabbing sex-ish scene b/c she felt exploited....and regretted it a bit.

I don't think she's opposed to love scenes (she did a realistic "almost sex" scene in Girlfight), just ones that are exploitive and such she'll gladly pass on, even if it means she struggles to acheive super stardom and it takes a bit later go on to directing and producing which she's always wanted to be her ultimate goal (which she actually is...she's started her own company and is working on her first project, which actually sounds promising).

Yeah, she can have a temper, she can be edgey, she can come off harsh....and she is typecast...but she also looks up to actresses like Angelina, Drew Barrymore, etc (which I know b/c she answer the question I asked....long story...it's on video tape....somewhere....my question was picked to ask her during a S.W.A.T. promotion....she even said my name! ok, I know, I'm a dork). for what they stand for and she also "was someone who cried during Lilo and Stitch". It's called look a bit deeper people. I for one really relate to her b/c of her stance on Hollywood, feminity, exploiting women, life, and aspirations (I too hope to one day write/direct/produce).

Anyay, like I said....I'm a huge Michelle fan...but I will always be a film/tv fan first. I won't brag on crappy acting. In Blue Crush...she did pretty bad...but let's face it...as fun a movie as it was....most the writing was pretty crappy (I mean come on, how can she do anything given lines like "Fierce." The best acting she did in that movie came when she improved the whole telling Penny about the sun rotation and the whole principal scene "Is. Present tense" and also at the end when she's watching the video of Anne-marie surfing....same goes for Resident Evil....I love that movie, can watch it over and over, and yet I'll be the first to admit....filmmaking wise....it sucks. lol.

Anyway, like I said before. Look a little deeper people.

jater_luvs_josh
07-15-2005, 02:17 AM
I don't like Ana Lucia because I am waiting for the ultimate Jate moment and Ana Lucia would come and take Jack from Kate!!!!!! Noooooooo!!!!!!!
JATE JATE JATE JATE JATE JATE

-Luana-
07-15-2005, 07:58 AM
ahhhhhhhhh *runs away scared of the evil lady* she is horrible. I hate Jana as well JATE all the way!!!!!!!!!

sock
07-17-2005, 11:51 AM
I'm not too sure what to make of the character Ana Lucia yet. I have nothing against Michelle Rodrigoeuz, but I'm not a huge fan either. Even though I'm a double shipper (both Jate and Skate - along with other ships - yes I'm a ship-whore), I really don't want to brand this character evil until I see more of her. I've got to say, I am not totally keen on her joining the cast. I'm glad that there will be a more diverse group of females though, since there does seem to be a shortage. However, I don't really want to see her as a regular yet. I'm not prepared for that. I like the cast chemistry on Lost with the current cast, and I don't know what a new addition will do.

Of course as a viewer, I would like to give the character a chance. But I'm having trouble doing that. Just because of the current cast chemistry. It's almost like something 'not right' about it. But I keep telling myself I shouldn't judge her, when I've only seen one interaction. I mean, I have hated a lot of other new cast members of other shows which I follow (when they first join the show), but then end up really liking them later. This might happen.

At the moment, I'm going "Please no, I really don't want her as a regular." (Not because it is Rodrigeouz, but just because of the aspects of the show.) However, I'm hoping for the best and wishing that it'll turn out okay.

Pink Pinker
07-17-2005, 11:55 AM
I'm not too sure what to make of the character Ana Lucia yet. I have nothing against Michelle Rodrigoeuz, but I'm not a huge fan either. Even though I'm a double shipper (both Jate and Skate - along with other ships - yes I'm a ship-whore), I really don't want to brand this character evil until I see more of her. I've got to say, I am not totally keen on her joining the cast. I'm glad that there will be a more diverse group of females though, since there does seem to be a shortage. However, I don't really want to see her as a regular yet. I'm not prepared for that. I like the cast chemistry on Lost with the current cast, and I don't know what a new addition will do.

Of course as a viewer, I would like to give the character a chance. But I'm having trouble doing that. Just because of the current cast chemistry. It's almost like something 'not right' about it. But I keep telling myself I shouldn't judge her, when I've only seen one interaction. I mean, I have hated a lot of other new cast members of other shows which I follow (when they first join the show), but then end up really liking them later. This might happen.

At the moment, I'm going "Please no, I really don't want her as a regular." (Not because it is Rodrigeouz, but just because of the aspects of the show.) However, I'm hoping for the best and wishing that it'll turn out okay.

Could not of said it better myself :D

Leigh
07-17-2005, 08:37 PM
Could not of said it better myself :D

Just remember guys...J.J. is a genius...and we all have always trusted him right? Well...he and his people are the kind who plan out and write episodes and season story arcs months and months in advance.....I'm sure this character is something he's planned all along.....I mean, hell the tail section was known to break off and not be found, and Rose's and the whole husband thing....all this has been going on since first ep.....so again, I'm sure this character has been one of his goals since the start. The casting....well, he recently said he's been a big fan of hers for some time. That says something....to me anyway....though I don't need convincing apparently some of you do....and for J.J. to be a fan (considering she's not exactly well known)....you know there's something there....he obviously sees something in her....and you trust him right?

I know I do. Hell....I don't want to see her ruin the show! I love Lost....and she's my fav....and so I hope the two can merge successfully.

J.J.=brilliance.

Just remember that....has he give you people any reason to doubt or mistrust his ideas/direction for this show?! Huh? Well.....then WHAT ARE YOU DOING!? :eek:

:cool:

benos
07-18-2005, 09:17 AM
i hope she goes in the triangle. mu ha ha ha.
maybe she dies in the first scene, when she was
about to say something, like Artz was about say
something, then he blew himself up. Owned.
oh well, but we need brand new cast members,
even if Ana Lucia may stray Jack from Kate. But
Kate most likely go back to Sawyer. When he is
finally found in the final part of Genesis episode

StandardBlack
07-18-2005, 11:08 AM
ok, I'm in. I hate Ana Lucia. I want her to get eaten. JATE FOREVER!!! lol, ok, i'm startin to sound weird(er)....

Leigh
07-18-2005, 08:34 PM
Ok....I'm imagining you all are the bag here:

http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/galleries/swat_kick.gif

Get 'em Michelle! MUWAH! ;)

Lost_Fan_4eva815
07-18-2005, 10:27 PM
Count me in!! When i first heard that she was joining the show, I did not like her right away!! I didnt want anyother women to join the cast. Now, she may steal Jack away from Kate!! Cant have that! Im a jater (totally). Anyways, I hope she is the one that gets kicked off.

Soukie
09-25-2005, 09:30 PM
I don't like Michelle Rodriguez or her character Ana Lucia. She appears to me has the "hey-look-at-me-I'm-a-bad-woman-I-can-beat-Sawyer-and-come-between-Jake-and-Kate-because-I'm-able-to-fight-and-better-than-her" character. Pointless.

*UkCharlieLover*
09-26-2005, 12:23 PM
ahh I totally agree with this thread I hate Anna sooo much, im not a fan of change in tv shows like for example The oc when that brought in new charachters the show went downhill for me anyway and Im just worried the same is going to happen to lost, but I hope not!!
Anyway I love the love triangle & shes going to ruin it!!!! :mad:
p.s Soukie I love the piccie!! cleverly done!!

kayla
09-26-2005, 12:25 PM
i dont like ana either.shes annoying.

CONTY
09-26-2005, 07:39 PM
i don't like michel rodriguez and from what i saw of the character i kinda hate the character too

BiggestLostfan
09-26-2005, 07:40 PM
what ever happened to her only doing a few guest appearances and not that I know anything but I hope her character is killed off this season lol

Lost_Fan_4eva815
09-26-2005, 07:44 PM
Also dont like her! ive said it before, if she comes and joins, i dont know what will happen to the show because of Ana Lucia. hoefully we wont let it ruin our input (?) of this show! We'll still love it (Lost, not Ana) whatever Ana lucia does. I hope I can pledge to that!

Edit: I see i already gave my opinion at the top of this page, opps! Well, u have another post from me :confused:

CONTY
09-26-2005, 08:11 PM
lol if she ruins my litle jater hopes this season i will damn her for the rest of my life

has_a_gun
09-27-2005, 12:30 PM
I don't like Ana-Lucia at all, it could be because I dispise Michelle, but I didn't like the impression she left on me in the episode she was in.

I'm not a Jater or a Skater, I ship the triangle...(I don't know what you'd call that because I can't decide who I want to see with whom) but I don't want to see Ana mess my my triangle!
LOVE DOES NOT COME IN SQUARES!
*points to Avatar and shakes fist*


...that is all :)

elfdream
09-27-2005, 12:46 PM
Are you all afraid that the Jate ship will be threatened..is that why you hate her even when she really hasn't done much of anything yet?

I wouldn't worry about that...Jate might have its ups and downs but I think in the end it will come through.

Or do you just not like new people?

Or is it the actress? I know a LOT of people hated Emilie because of Roswell but changed their minds when she played Claire because she was playing a sweeter character.

I'm just not getting this...I could understand it if we had seen her in a couple of episodes and she was a horrible character but I don't see why all the hate NOW.

has_a_gun
09-27-2005, 01:00 PM
I already explained my dislike for Ana in my above post, but I also dislike Cynthia Watros, so I'm not going to like her character either. She bugs me SO much when I hear her talk my skin crawls....

So, a lot of it has to do with the actor. I never liked Boone because of my dislike for Ian (until recently and now Ian doesn't bug me but Boone still does).

Scarlett
09-27-2005, 04:07 PM
:rant: I personally think her character could possibly kill the show. But thats just my opinion!!
:rant: No new characters!! I am against it!!

I completely agree. Think of that flashback when they showed all the original cast members on the plane--Shannon was looking for her inhaler when Boone handed it to her, Hurley gave Walk the thumbs up, etc. Those are the characters the show should be based on--and I realize tehy have to keep it fresh, but they certainly don't need a dominant character when they have so many already.
Also--as someone pointed out, Ana Lucia is basically Michelle Rodriguez. She plays the same character in everything she's in (at least SWAT and Blue Crush). Kate is the perfect mixture of girly and assertive. She's strong but sensitive. AL is just too pushy, forward, and domineering. You can just see her messing up everything on the island. Not just Jate and Skate, but everything.
I trust the writers, but I also think they can make mistakes. It's one thing to cast another girl, a likeable one, maybe someone who will cause drama but not totally disrupt everything and take away from the original cast we've come to love. But to add Michelle who is ALWAYS the same butch type, just to disrupt all the relationships....and come on..like there's any way either jack or sawyer would choose her over Kate in real life!

*UkCharlieLover*
09-27-2005, 05:23 PM
I personally just dont like new charachters I know its wrong but Im not big on change!! :) :)

Scarlett
09-27-2005, 07:34 PM
[QUOTE=Carmel Cutie]Lost addict, that's a good point about her being famous. I feel that will take away from the atmosphere of the show as well, seeing a famous face on there. I liked how all the actors were all relative unknowns. It helped bring about believablity.

Cermel Cutie, I totally agree w/ you and Lost addict. I hadn't really seen the other actors in much except Party of Five, and I've seen two Michelle movies (and hated her in both of them). Claire, Sun, and Kate (and sometimes Shannon) are great female characters--why not develop Shannon more, or tell us why Kate started running in the first place before bringing in a controversial star. In every movie she's in, Michelle R. plays a masculine, tough=talking, sulking character. From the promo pics, she'll be the same way on the show.
I don't need to see 5 episodes with her in them to form an opinion--my instinct tells me she's no good for "the island" or the show. If they wanted to bring someone on for a love triangle, they should have brought someone who was more multi-dimensional in her acting. I'll be really disappointed if Jack OR Sawyer goes for her...esp. when they have Kate!

abctouchstone32
09-27-2005, 08:49 PM
I just wonder why Michelle Rodriguez is always frowning lol...

Scarlett
09-27-2005, 10:13 PM
See, I dont' think Ana Lucia is perfect for Sawyer, either. He likes kate, which means he has good taste. Why would he go from someone who's beautiful, feminine, smart, polite, respectful, and considerate to soemone who's harsh and unattractive? I think Sawyer likes spunky girls, but not macho/surly ones like AL seems to be. My prediction is, the writers will unfortunately let us down by making Jack "like" AL, or at least be challenged by her. I guess they'll play up how he's always made the safe choice and gone for the "good" girl..although Kate's not Ms. Innocent either, and she's still nice!
I think Sawyer will make a few lewd comments about AL but keep focused on Kate. There will obviously be friction btwn Kate and AL, and any true LOST fan will be on Kate's side. Not only was she there first, but she looks out for Jack and the other castaways, and would never have been so rude to him.
Let's look at the facts of the first meeting:
Kate--usd humor to relax Jack, sewed him up even though she almost couldn't do it
AL--rudely asked about his father's death, tried to be cool
It's obvious Kate cares about him. AL was just flirting with him because let's face it, who wouldn't?

-Luana-
09-27-2005, 10:55 PM
I HATE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She isnt allowed to be with Jack or Sawyer coz they are too good for her!

jater_luvs_josh
09-27-2005, 11:01 PM
^^Hear hear! I hate that.....thing! Arzna is the only ship her name is good enough to be in.(my opinion don't kill me if you don't agree ;) )

Scarlett
09-28-2005, 03:19 PM
I'm really getting anxious about the 2nd episode tonight...I wonder if we'll even meet AL yet. Idoubt it, since they have so much to resolve.
I'm a Jater, but I'm starting to wonder if maybe Kate and Sawyer wouldn't be better for each other after all. Especially if Jack goes for AL--I think that will say a lot about his character. I think Sawyer will make a few sexual comments, but I think he will stick w/ Kate. At least,I hope!

Scarlett
09-28-2005, 11:28 PM
Well, this episode was pretty disappointing for Jaters and Skaters alike. We didn't learn ANYTHING froma ship's perspective, and not much about the regular plot.
But in the preview we saw. YOU KNOW WHO in her manly sleeveless shirt talking in her usual voice. We know the others have her...maybe they'll take care of her for us! muhaha
Seriously tho, I think next episode will be a lot more promising. I'm hoping the writers are jsut getting us back into things, and will tell us more--and show us some ships material--in this next episode. If nothing else, at least we know Jack, Kate, and Sawyer are OK for now....
Let's brace ourselves for next week!

Scarlett
09-29-2005, 10:31 AM
Omg guys, you have to check these pics out. Go to epiisode discussion, season 2, 2/03 and look at "Ana Lucia promo pics". They show her punching Sawyer! Wtf? Where does that ugly girl get off punching one of the hottest guys on the island?
It's one thing if Kate does it. But AL comes on our show and then punches one of the guys? I don't think so! Grrr I hate her! :rant:

ShinyThings
09-29-2005, 10:46 AM
I can't stand her. I couldn't stand her in Girl Fight and Resident Evil and I don't know how the hell she got a part on this show. She's so irritating! They probably had plenty of people to pick from and I don't understand why they picked her. The only reason that I'm sort of even accepting her is because I want Sawyer and Kate to hook up and Lucia will probably go for Jack.

But even then she doesn't deserve him. I hope Jack somehow gets together with his wife and that Lucia gets eaten by one of those weird island sharks. Or polar bears.

Heather
09-29-2005, 10:58 AM
I don't hate the character so I won't join a hate club, but I do agree with the fact that I think it is pointless to bring her on, we already have 13 castaways that we have grown to love, 1 has already died, I hope they didn't kill Boone just to bring on Anna and her gang. To me it would be better to focus on the characters we already have for now before bringing more characters on, there is still so much we don't know about the characters we already have, why do we need to add another one. My bitterness isn't about Anna Lucia herself, I'm sure she will be a fine character, etc, and I don't hold anything against Michelle Rodriguez I just don't understand the point in adding on new characters, just my opinion. I don't hate Anna, I just am not excited about her coming on, if that makes any sense. I might end up being okay with it, IF the show doesn't turn into the Ananc Lucia hour, or the Anna/Jack/Kate/Sawyer quadrangle hour. I don't know if what I am saying makes sense to anyone but me, lol

pftsobfreak
09-29-2005, 07:46 PM
I see what you're saying, but I love seeing new characters. I think it adds some spice to the show. Cuz seriously, ever since I got the season 1 DVD and w