MILES: he dug up Nikki and Paulo's diamonds

[alexisfan07]

Jabonies :D
He dug them up and kept the diamonds :D

I LOVE THIS SHOW

[Malkin]

That was brilliant. They actually managed to tie that random little character strand from season 3 into a major character decision three seasons later. Pure genius.

[JacekW]

I don't like his means of acquiring that information. Not impressed.

[Tweekn Tekneek]

he knew this due to the fact he knew where their dead body was...
however i dont think we can say he has dug the diamonds up yet. He just knows about them

[AModernMyth]

I was very amused.

[alexisfan07]

To whomever edited my post's title, it's PaUlo

hahahahahahahaha

he knew this due to the fact he knew where their dead body was...
however i dont think we can say he has dug the diamonds up yet. He just knows about them

Did you miss the end? He was holding them, lol

[Dawne]

he knew this due to the fact he knew where their dead body was...
however i dont think we can say he has dug the diamonds up yet. He just knows about them

In the ending montage we saw him with one is his hand
I loved this! I don't hate the Nikki and Paulo disaster so much now :w00t:

[JacekW]

You guys shock me :confused: everyone demands immediate answers for mysteries so huge you know they will eventually be answered, but now everyone accepts as fact that he can just read thoughts of the dead, and not one question raised?

[willysp]

Jabonies :D
He dug them up and kept the diamonds :D

I LOVE THIS SHOW

Hey Mods - it's Paulo.

[willysp]

he knew this due to the fact he knew where their dead body was...
however i dont think we can say he has dug the diamonds up yet. He just knows about them

He had one in his hand, didn't he?

[Wagsy]

OOPS my bad "Paulo"...

Yeah I'm just THAT impressed with that character. :p

[Dawne]

You guys shock me :confused: everyone demands immediate answers for mysteries so huge you know they will eventually be answered, but now everyone accepts as fact that he can just read thoughts of the dead, and not one question raised?

I don't think it's that no one questions it, but it's something that we've known about since season 4. I think everyone's gotten a little used to it by now. Speaking for myself, I know it's still something I want to be answered, just like Hurley talking to the dead, but that doesn't take away from how awesome this scene was ;)

[Tweekn Tekneek]

"he DUGGED up" really? lol....
very funny buddy..

but on a serious note what makes u think he "dug' them up?

[willysp]

You guys shock me :confused: everyone demands immediate answers for mysteries so huge you know they will eventually be answered, but now everyone accepts as fact that he can just read thoughts of the dead, and not one question raised?

Since the writers made that an elemental and critical part of his character in the first few minutes that we met him, then yes I accept the fact that he listens to the dead.

This is a fictional story after all. Especially in this kind of story, a large amout of suspension of belief is key as we meet the character, and then as the character develops.

[Judge]

"he DUGGED up" really? lol....
very funny buddy..

but on a serious note what makes u think he "dug' them up?

Yeah, I remember Sawyer just tossing the diamonds down the grave. It's possible one or two stayed on the surface.

[emoney21]

I would have dug them up too.

Its not like the dead were going to use them or anything...:)

[JacekW]

Since the writers made that an elemental and critical part of his character in the first few minutes that we met him, then yes I accept the fact that he listens to the dead.

This is a fictional story after all. Especially in this kind of story, a large amout of suspension of belief is key as we meet the character, and then as the character develops.

Ive tried to not think about Miles' ability when thinking about the show. This show used to be called science fiction, now its more like meet-your-necromancer.

[andysocial]

You guys shock me :confused: everyone demands immediate answers for mysteries so huge you know they will eventually be answered, but now everyone accepts as fact that he can just read thoughts of the dead, and not one question raised?

I accept it because there was an entire episode about it last season. I'd be upset if "all of a sudden" Miles had this ability, but we've known about it for awhile, and it's come into play a number of times. As for the cause of his power, who knows? Some people can talk to the dead, he's one of them. Jennifer Love Hewitt is another.

[Spindoll]

Yeah, I remember Sawyer just tossing the diamonds down the grave. It's possible one or two stayed on the surface.

After all weather and sand shifting on the Island, please, He dug them up. lol

[XyK]

Only reason he went to the island was for the money anyways.

Well, his daddy too, but every character on that show has dad problems.

[j125hunter]

I agree 100%. I do not question much about the show that is consistent: Miles can talk to the dead. How he got that way, I have no idea, nor do I care. Heck, I'm no longer even curious about what Walt's special powers are/were. I am curious about the ship on the island, what the heck is up with Richard and how these people can bump into each other on the island and say things like, "Hey, Kate, where you going?" and then let them just walk off alone in the jungle as if they were strolling into the mall. "Well, catch you later. Keep in touch. Good luck at the Temple."

[Jarmel]

You guys shock me :confused: everyone demands immediate answers for mysteries so huge you know they will eventually be answered, but now everyone accepts as fact that he can just read thoughts of the dead, and not one question raised?

Since this is a pretty big mystery, I'm sure it will be addressed sooner or later. So until then I'm not really worried about it. Anyway the bit about Nikki and Paulo was absolutely great. I've been really impressed by the writing and the overall togetherness of this season.

[sportscowboy8]

haha line of the night goes to andysocials "Jennifer Love Hewitt" comment

[Pillbug1977]

Hey Mods - it's Paulo.

No matter how it's spelled, every time it's mentioned I go into tiny shivering convulsions in memory of such a bad episode... only rivaled by the ill feelings I get when someone utters "Jack's Tattoo".

[Soul Food]

When Sawyer finds out Miles has the goods he's gonna be pissed off in the event he can get off the island and not have the rocks,

[Guinness1]

That was brilliant. They actually managed to tie that random little character strand from season 3 into a major character decision three seasons later. Pure genius.

How is that genius? They do that in almost every episode

[softarget]

"Jack's Tattoo".

Absolutely. No one wants to go there. lol.

Anyway, I'm glad Miles is still keeping it real. Too bad those Diamonds are CURSED!!!! He should know better from the testimonials of the dead. They were buried alive, after all. ;)

[funtastic1994]

that Miles got his supernatural talent because he was born on the island. "shrug"

[Jambre]

yeah so now miles knows that they were buried alive... Hurley's gonna feel baaaad

[T'sol]

I doubt Miles will tell Hurley or anyone else that they were buried alive. For one, it would do nothing but harm people and doesn't actually matter at this point.

[Steve34436]

Made it a lot easier to refuse that 3.2 mil anyways. Now there's a reason for them to be in the show other then the fact she was in a tv show that was "fun." Might have to watch that episode again lol.

[Ozment]

"he DUGGED up" really? lol....
very funny buddy..

but on a serious note what makes u think he "dug' them up?

Dig Dug! Best game EVAR! :w00t:

[humeurs]

I doubt Miles will tell Hurley or anyone else that they were buried alive. For one, it would do nothing but harm people and doesn't actually matter at this point.

I'd have to go back and check but didn't he say exactly that to Ben? 'Two suckers names Nikki and Paulo were buried alive with 8 bajillion dollars in diamonds' Or something like that. If he did say bajillion I hope they were referencing the old spice dude. :D

[Hey_My_Water]

I'd have to go back and check but didn't he say exactly that to Ben? 'Two suckers names Nikki and Paulo were buried alive with 8 bajillion dollars in diamonds' Or something like that. If he did say bajillion I hope they were referencing the old spice dude. :D

He said 8 million.

[sefira]

Ive tried to not think about Miles' ability when thinking about the show. This show used to be called science fiction, now its more like meet-your-necromancer.

What's your beef? Miles has been talking to the dead for almost two seasons now. I mean, crap, dead people have been walking around since the first episode, there has been a "smoke monster" since the first episode, and people can be made pseudo-immortal.

And you have a problem with Miles? He's like a garden variety psychic in the Lost universe.

[secnateb]

Miles holding the diamond is a way of showing that he dug them out without wasting time on pointlessly showing him digging. That way they can focus on what the episode was actually about, Ben. The whole diamond thing was just a way to tie up loose ends: the money Miles wanted from Ben, and Nicky and Paulo. Just something to show Ben's desperation at that time.

[sefira]

Miles holding the diamond is a way of showing that he dug them out without wasting time on pointlessly showing him digging. That way they can focus on what the episode was actually about, Ben. The whole diamond thing was just a way to tie up loose ends: the money Miles wanted from Ben, and Nicky and Paulo. Just something to show Ben's desperation at that time.

And that Miles appears to be here just for entertainment purposes at this point. He doesn't seem to be a major player and rarely has dialogue of any consequence, other than "Hey, where have you been?" :)

[elleesa]

And that Miles appears to be here just for entertainment purposes at this point. He doesn't seem to be a major player and rarely has dialogue of any consequence, other than "Hey, where have you been?" :)

In Miles' defense, he DID tell Kate last week that Claire was back.

I agree 100%. I do not question much about the show that is consistent: Miles can talk to the dead. How he got that way, I have no idea, nor do I care. Heck, I'm no longer even curious about what Walt's special powers are/were. I am curious about the ship on the island, what the heck is up with Richard and how these people can bump into each other on the island and say things like, "Hey, Kate, where you going?" and then let them just walk off alone in the jungle as if they were strolling into the mall. "Well, catch you later. Keep in touch. Good luck at the Temple."

Seriously, it's the major theme of the show: a group of narcissistic people crashing on an island who pretend to care about each other. And we've been hooked enough for the past 6 years to keep watching.

[Mary S.]

What I'd like to know is how, with Ben digging away on Boone Hill and with Ilyana holding a gun on Ben the whole time, how is it that no one noticed Miles digging up, or at least sifting the dirt over Nikki's grave.

I LOVE that he went for the diamonds, though. Can't blame him, but I think they're "cursed," too, with the murders and attempted murders that surround them. Even Sawyer felt that way so he dumped them loose in Nikki's grave.

[ikcaj]

LOL! Very well stated :D

I agree 100%. I do not question much about the show that is consistent: Miles can talk to the dead. How he got that way, I have no idea, nor do I care. Heck, I'm no longer even curious about what Walt's special powers are/were. I am curious about the ship on the island, what the heck is up with Richard and how these people can bump into each other on the island and say things like, "Hey, Kate, where you going?" and then let them just walk off alone in the jungle as if they were strolling into the mall. "Well, catch you later. Keep in touch. Good luck at the Temple."

[CourtneyMc22]

Since this is a pretty big mystery, I'm sure it will be addressed sooner or later. So until then I'm not really worried about it. Anyway the bit about Nikki and Paulo was absolutely great. I've been really impressed by the writing and the overall togetherness of this season.
See, this is when I wonder if some people are watching the same show as I am.

The writers have "explained" this aspect of Miles as much as they are going to, and anyone expecting to understand anything more about Miles' ability is going to be disappointed.

Yes, there are mysteries on this show that will be addressed (why the black rock is 1 mile inland, why Richard doesn't age, why the island is underwater in the flash sideways), but things like "why Miles can see dead people?" aren't mysteries. As another poster said, there is a certain suspension of reality that must go on when watching a sci-fi show like this (there's a SMOKE MONSTER for goodness sake). The writers showed us that Miles has had this ability since he was a child. It's just a talent or "gift" he has (and not to mention an ingenious plot device), period.

This reminds me of another post where someone said "I hope they explain how the mirrors work in the lighthouse" This is fiction, people!!! There is no scientifically sound explanation for why a mirror in a lighthouse on an island in the middle of the ocean would show certain places on the Earth when it's turned to certain degrees. It's just "magic," like the Island. If people can't take things like the mirrors and realize that they just are what they are, the show isn't for me, IMO.

[pax]

i still think Miles saw more than he's told about his visions from being on top of Juliet's grave. he seemed to be trying to make sense of that.

[Seren147]

JIBONES! :crackup:

I can't be the only one who thought that was hilarious! Takes me back to my ol' WWF (WWE) days!

[4TimeFelon]

he knew this due to the fact he knew where their dead body was...
however i dont think we can say he has dug the diamonds up yet. He just knows about them


He was sitting down - looking at a diamond.

[Constant_Craving]

Well, we know he has some of the diamonds at least.

I think Miles days are numbered...I don't know if he has 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 or 42 left though...maybe 108.

[Carlosxt]

wouldn't their last toughts be...OMG IM BURIED ALIVE!.......not i gots some diamonds lalalalala.

[JacekW]

What's your beef? Miles has been talking to the dead for almost two seasons now. I mean, crap, dead people have been walking around since the first episode, there has been a "smoke monster" since the first episode, and people can be made pseudo-immortal.

And you have a problem with Miles? He's like a garden variety psychic in the Lost universe.

Because something stupid has been going on for a long time doesnt mean its any less stupid. Dead people havent been walking around for the first episode necessairly, it could very well be the smoke monster. And the difference is, I am expecting an explanation of why Christian is walking around, while im not expecting anything else on why Miles is a necromancer. So I will not complain about Christian when I have yet to see the reasoning.

Nobody is pseudo-immortal, non-aging is not impossible to achieve theoretically, and thats the kind of thing science fiction is supposed to contain.

Again, the smoke monster i still expect an answer to. But i definetly prefer smoke monsters to necromancy either way.

[benny]

and how these people can bump into each other on the island and say things like, "Hey, Kate, where you going?" and then let them just walk off alone in the jungle as if they were strolling into the mall. "Well, catch you later. Keep in touch. Good luck at the Temple."

YES I always think this! Great big jungle....one busy path!

[sigfrik]

Hahaha Miles's just awesome :D Love him since ever!!! :rotflol:

[Billy BK]

I also think there is more to Miles' ability than he admits. Remember the episode where he was being a ghost buster? He went up into the dude's room and had a conversation with the ghost and learned where the money was hidden. He did that without the body, as well. Something's not quite right about that.

[ctshib]

When I saw that Miles had a diamond, and realized that he dug them up, I thought of something else. There has always been a strong focus on the show about burying the dead. Everyone seems to be willing to forestall their missions to make sure the dead get buried. It was while Locke was unburied that MiB was able to take his form...then they buried him. And Ilana also said he is now stuck as Locke. Just saying...

So if Miles dug up Nikki and/or Paulo to get the diamonds...did he re-bury them completely? And the funny thing is what Lock said to Paulo in the episode Expose, "Nothing on this island stays buried." And now it looks like Paulo himself didn't stay buried.

Not really sure yet the significance of not being buried, but I do think there is some significance. Thoughts?

One last thing to add: The first season when Hurley and Charlie are burying Ethan, Hurley made some reference to Ethan rising up as a zombie. He also asked Sayid if he was a zombie. Maybe we have zombies in a future episode. Probably not, but I can dream. lol

[lost_momma]

Yes. ZOMBIES! That's in season 7 according to Darlton! ROFL

[Grim Reapster]

OK the first thing that crossed my mind was how ridiculously hard it would be to find loose diamonds scattered on top of a couple of corpses buried several feet down. You'd probably have to have some way of sifting the soil.

And the second thing that I thought was "So none of the other people there had any objection to Miles desecrating a couple of graves?" If anything I'd expect Sun to speak up. After the way she insisted that they bury Locke. But I guess that Nikki and Paulo were just so unlikable that nobody really cares what you do to them.

[luvtotha9s]

Miles dug up the diamonds while Ilana was off chasing Ben through the woods....Sun and Lapidus were probably fixing the tents or gathering firewood....ie not paying attention to Miles....so he definitely had a window...you can see the pouch in his hands when Ilana and Ben get back

[Grim Reapster]

Miles dug up the diamonds while Ilana was off chasing Ben through the woods....Sun and Lapidus were probably fixing the tents or gathering firewood....ie not paying attention to Miles....so he definitely had a window...you can see the pouch in his hands when Ilana and Ben get back

Were they in a pouch? I thought that Sawyer poured them into the open grave.

[luvtotha9s]

they looked to be...he was huddling in a tent...with something in his hand...then of course you see him with one of the diamonds in his hand

[Dartmat]

Miles has got to be one of my favorite "side" characters. I love that he went after the diamonds. I also agree with Billy BK that there is more to his ability than he's letting on. The guy plays his cards close to his chest. Seems he sets limits on his ability so no one can take advantage of him or expect more than he's willing to give.

[luvtotha9s]

Miles is one of my favorites as well...I also loved Kens Guest spot on the Sopranos....he played a crazy mental patient that Uncle Junior took under his wing....he ends up beating the hell out of poor Uncle Jun

[sigfrik]

They wrote that character thiking of Leung :D

Zombies: well, people, Sayid sort of died and came back, that's pretty much what a zombie is!!!

[Oblivion55]

I laughed a little when I saw Miles was inspecting a diamond.

[sigfrik]

I laughed a little when I saw Miles was inspecting a diamond.



:D SURE!!!!!!!

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[IceAnnouncer]

I'm hearing a lot of people say they thought it was great - that it was just a way to "wrap up" that Nikki and Paulo crap.

But I think everything we're seeing this year has something to do with each person's internal scale of good vs. evil.

I think Miles and the diamonds will be crucial for his future as we move forward. Was that his internal scale tipping toward evil (greed)?

Maybe you all are right, and this is nothing more than a nice little side piece for us to enjoy, and wrap up an old storyline. But I think it might be more.

[Liquidz]

I'm hearing a lot of people say they thought it was great - that it was just a way to "wrap up" that Nikki and Paulo crap.

But I think everything we're seeing this year has something to do with each person's internal scale of good vs. evil.

I think Miles and the diamonds will be crucial for his future as we move forward. Was that his internal scale tipping toward evil (greed)?

Maybe you all are right, and this is nothing more than a nice little side piece for us to enjoy, and wrap up an old storyline. But I think it might be more.

While I think you might be right(each person's internal scale of good vs. evil), I don't really see it as greed. I mean there is for 8 millions of diamonds right there buried in the sand doing nothing. Why would it be bad to take them? Greed would have been to take Ben's money and the diamonds. I think it might just have been a funny moment with Miles.

[sigfrik]

I laughed, I like Miles and the way he let Ben know he couldn't buy him....

BUT I am wondering if he was not only brought in there in order to listen to Jacob if fatal events took place, now I am wondering if the NikkyPaolo [crapp] mention wasn't a clue, and if not, anyway: he happens to be the one who can know the truth about JOHN'S last thoughts!!! :cool: I can't wait for him to be near his body!! pleaseeeeeeeeeee :D

[Cruzader]

At the end of the episode, we see Miles holding the diamonds that Nikki and Paulo buried. Is this a clue that the greedy Miles we first met is still there?

If so, why hasn't MIB made a pass to convert him yet? If I were MIB, I would offer Miles a large sum of money and I'm sure he'd be on my side in a heartbeat.

This leads me to believe that A) MIB doesn't care about Miles because he's not important/a Candidate, B) MIB still has plans for Miles, or C) MIB doesn't really know who Miles is, but may want him on his side in the future.

I really hope not, because Miles is sort of our mini-Sawyer. He started out as a total A-hole and quickly grew into someone we really cared about. If anything, I'd say Miles would follow whichever side Sawyer ends up on, as they seem to have become best friends/partners during the three years in the Dharma Initiative.

[softarget]

God. Wouldn't it be glorious if Miles somehow escaped the Island, and got the diamonds. I mean, after all of this drama over fate, destiny and choice, for Miles to escape with plunder would make him legendary in the show's history. Don't ya think?

[SSDB'S]

God. Wouldn't it be glorious if Miles somehow escaped the Island, and got the diamonds. I mean, after all of this drama over fate, destiny and choice, for Miles to escape with plunder would make him legendary in the show's history. Don't ya think?

I think Miles is finally going to get the payday he always wanted. What's it been, over 3 years since he was told he'd get millions?

[Cruzader]

When all is said and done with this series, I have a feeling there's gonna be three categories of people:

A) They die by the series' end

B) They end up staying on the Island forever

C) They go back to the real world and live happily

I'd say, especially since he's not really a Candidate, either Miles dies or lives happily off the Island (With millions of dollars). Obviously I wish him the best, but with him and Frank being the only very minor characters in the grand scheme of things, I can definitely see them being killed off before the series' end, unfortunately.

[OddsMen]

You guys shock me :confused: everyone demands immediate answers for mysteries so huge you know they will eventually be answered, but now everyone accepts as fact that he can just read thoughts of the dead, and not one question raised?

Well, that's the way his character has been set up. He can gather a kind of psychic impression of a person and what they were thinking around the time of their death simply by being close to their remains. That is in fact the very reason he was sent to the island, if you recall.


... I would like to add that I don't get why people view Nikki and Paulo as such a disaster. The whole "extras" don't speak (i.e. collect their union speaking fee) was getting to be more than a little weird; it was cool to hear from some other people on the island. Well, kinda. Their episodes were not that good, I admit.

[Boring8Man]

I would never have guessed that those diamonds will be found. Really.
Miles finding them was the second "shock" of the episode ,after Widmore of course :D

I always thought that when Sawyer took them out of the bag and dropped them to hole loose was significant and kind of a closure to the diamond plot.
But I guess it was like a tribute to unforgettable characters :p

[sigfrik]

DUDE :eh: diamonds were actually spread indeed, so Miles hadn't enough with just digging, they were not in the same little bag anymore, so grouse!!! :rotflol:

[c14rlf]

The thing the writers got wrong is miles says to ben, why would I want your money when there's a couple called nikki and paolo there who were buried with diamonds, where the reality was nikki burrows the diamonds in the jungle just before she ran out to the beach and collapsed. Am I missing a part where they virtues them with them or what??????

[philpy1999]

The thing the writers got wrong is miles says to ben, why would I want your money when there's a couple called nikki and paolo there who were buried with diamonds, where the reality was nikki burrows the diamonds in the jungle just before she ran out to the beach and collapsed. Am I missing a part where they virtues them with them or what??????

Sawyer had them, he was going to keep them for himself but he decided not too and sprinkled the diamonds over the bodies just before they buried them.

[c14rlf]

Sawyer had them, he was going to keep them for himself but he decided not too and sprinkled the diamonds over the bodies just before they buried them.

ahhh thanks!!! thought i must have missed something :D

[Sokkerdude005]

Really? That's the point of an hour long episode devoted to Nikki and Paulo? So Miles can examine a diamond? I'm not impressed...in a show that pays so much attention to detail, and everything has a purpose, I think that the Nikki/Paulo episode is going to mean a lot more in the end. I think this episode was merely calling our attention back to it so that it can be brought up later.

[ctshib]

Well let's think about this one.

1. Miles is currently with team Jacob, at least he's camping with them.
2. Team Jacob wants to stay on the island, while team MiB wants to get off the island.
3. In the Nikki/Paulo episode, it was reiterated a few times that the diamonds have no value on the island.
4. Yet, Miles still felt the need to dig up the diamonds.

Sounds to me like Miles is going to switch sides. Otherwise, why would he care about the diamonds if he was going to stay on an island where they hold no value?

[sigfrik]

yeah makes sense :nod:

[wahinetoa]

Ewww.. lol. I know, that was.. sick man. Sawyer scattered them over their bodies like confetti.. Miles would've had to.. um.. rummage :shifty: through rottin' flesh. EWWWW.

Wash your hands.

And to be honest, I think they'd have a lot to say besides the stuff about the diamonds. Like.. "What the heck... we were alive when they buried us."

Offtopic, I'd like to know what Lucy and Libby said as well. lol. Miles ears would've been buring all shades of red, I bet. :D:w00t: