White and black stones

[irene520]

Guessing it represented good vs evil, so y did smokey/Locke toss the white stone. Does that mean win or loose?

[Mikeseverson]

I assumed since it was on a balance it meant the balance was broken (white meaning jacob's death)

He threw it away showing black (locke's power)

[The Gunslinger]

I still hate to think it's all good versus evil. I believe now, especially considering this episode, that the good versus evil thing was just some sort of joke by Jacob and MiB (or some kind of bet...the evil in men's hearts ultimately triumphs over the good in their hearts? I dunno).

MiB was definitely the black stone, though. It now has all the weight on the scale.

[toongirl]

I was so afraid there for a second that Adam and Eve were going to be Flocke & James!!:rolleyes:

[Malkin]

Reminds me of Locke's quote in the very first episode, about backgammon:

"Two players. Two sides. One is black, one is white."

I see this as MiB spitefully tossing away one of Jacob's little keepsakes and flaunting his victory at the same time. The white side lost, or so he figures.

[Trum_15]

that means jacob died, so is no longer needed. i think they are the same as in the "adam and eve" bag. back when jack discovered the cave's

[Trace_Amounts]

im guessing that it represented like game pieces and mib has won so he chucked away jacobs rock.

[MissMillsonxx]

I think it represents good and bad. He threw the rock in the water 'cause he thinks he won. I also thought of those rocks that were with Adam and Eve but ones female so i guess that rules them out.

[rasp]

He threw the white rock into the ocean because he has a suspicion he has won, and because he has now disturbed the century-old balance that has kept him imprisoned on the island.

[L0ST_RunsMyLife]

But when MIB tossed the stone in the water he said it was a sort of inside joke. Does this mean they have been through this whole killing eachother thing more than once?? Possibly with the Black Rock (boat, not the actual stone lol) and even others?

[schu4ksu]

I think this means Sawyer will be Adam. He knows where the cave is. The bag looked like his from the previous episode.

The significance of the white stone being thrown into the ocean is that someone will travel back in time to get them from the cave. So I think he'll be turning the wagon wheel again and end up in the jughead era. Jack said the bodies were decaying for about 50 years.

Question is - will eve be Juliet or Kate?

[ohmy]

Flocke is recruiting Sawyer to take his place

[wicked_mind]

I think the scale is more important than the rocks themselves. The whole show seems to be about the dark and light nature of man. MIB and Jacob have been playing this game, thinking their side will finally one day tip the balance.

Maybe MIB finally has with his loophole, but I have a feeling that the scales will always stay balanced because when it comes to good and evil, you can't have one without the other.

I don't know what this means for the characters, though, and I hope everything ends in a more satisfying way for them than merely just the balance being restored.

[Steve34436]

I thought the white was just salt. Although don't think either of them are done proving their usefulness.

[AModernMyth]

Reminds me of Locke's quote in the very first episode, about backgammon:

"Two players. Two sides. One is black, one is white."

I see this as MiB spitefully tossing away one of Jacob's little keepsakes and flaunting his victory at the same time. The white side lost, or so he figures.

THIS. THIS. THIS.

It's what I was thinking of throughout the scene. It was such a call back to that scene from the pilot.

When MiB tossed the white stone out, he basically through out any representation of Jacob. He and Jacob were balanced until now - neither could hard the other, etc. But now Jacob's dead, and bye bye white stone.

[Spindoll]

Flocke may have chucked the white stone, but that's not the one and only white stone on the Island. They'll be another one in it's place. As someone said above, it's not about the stone it's about the Balance.

[RTYJKL23]

Balance of Power on the island. Flocke is frustrated. He knew killing Jacob was only a temporary solution, and the apparition of young Jacob confirms it. The island won't let it's "protector" die.

[thelittlethings]

that means jacob died, so is no longer needed. i think they are the same as in the "adam and eve" bag. back when jack discovered the cave's

Not the same stones. From season 1:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b16/thelittlethings/lost/house233.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b16/thelittlethings/lost/34c9076ef52adc317f64e57af12a2fed.jpg

I think it's more of a representation of the balance being "broken"

[elleesa]

No, not the exact same stones. But they still mean the same thing. Black vs. white, evil vs. good.

[Hugh Critz]

No, not the exact same stones. But they still mean the same thing. Black vs. white, evil vs. good.

Black vs White just means opposites ... not necessarily evil vs good. Could be faith/reason, stupidity/intelligence or even Yankees/Red Sox

[Yuddh1]

THIS. THIS. THIS.

It's what I was thinking of throughout the scene. It was such a call back to that scene from the pilot.

When MiB tossed the white stone out, he basically through out any representation of Jacob. He and Jacob were balanced until now - neither could hard the other, etc. But now Jacob's dead, and bye bye white stone.


Don't be confused. The White Rock represents Flocke that was the inside joke. He is tossing his own rock into the ocean to show that he is about to escape, as he sees it. He is angry with Jacob because Jacob was the one who betrayed and trapped him in the cabin.

[subliminalblue]

Don't be confused. The White Rock represents Flocke that was the inside joke. He is tossing his own rock into the ocean to show that he is about to escape, as he sees it. He is angry with Jacob because Jacob was the one who betrayed and trapped him in the cabin.

No, I think he's tossing the white rock into the ocean because he believes he has finally defeated Jacob, and his silly white rock is no longer in play. It's only Flocke, with the black rock on the scale completely unbalanced.

[KLOPP]

From what I've seen since season 1 we can't say one side is good and the other is evil. they are just opposing sides represented by light and dark. I have said this in another thread but if you were watching two people playing chess you wouldnt assume the player with white peices are good while the one represented by black are bad. It's all a game to MIB and Jacob. The rock being thrown into the ocean was just a symbol for the balance of power being thrown off for the time being.

[philpy1999]

From what I've seen since season 1 we can't say one side is good and the other is evil. they are just opposing sides represented by light and dark. I have said this in another thread but if you were watching two people playing chess you wouldnt assume the player with white peices are good while the one represented by black are bad. It's all a game to MIB and Jacob. The rock being thrown into the ocean was just a symbol for the balance of power being thrown off for the time being.

Very true.

When playing Chess or Backgammon one player will be black, doesn't mean they are evil though, does it.