The Official Ana Lucia Rocks Thread!

[Leigh]

Dude, I love her voice too...it's great, very low and deep yet feminine and soft....I've always had a lower softer voice too and always felt odd about it, till I saw sex symbols like Angie Harmon and Michelle Rodriguez and now Scarlett Johanssen have deeper voices.

It's hot. :D

....or at least I think it is....guys? You'd know more than I about that I suppose lol.

[ActionAimz]

Ana -- MR has a very smooth voice. Jack doesn't trust anyone right now -- he is wound up so tightly. Ana is very very smart, and I liked how she tested him to see just how much he trusts her. I think as we see Jack trust Kate less and less, we will see him trust Ana more and more. She is on HIS side more than anyone on that island, and she is definitely showing him that in many ways.

I also loved seeing her go into cop interrogation mode in that little beach huddle. She definitely rocked in this episode.

[Yariene]

I agree with you guys and I hope that Ana and Jack have a talk about this. I don't want them to brush it off.

[ActionAimz]

someone posted in the eppy thread that one of the guys buying Sawyer's necklace was Jason -- the man who shot Ana. Anyone else catch this?

[Leigh]

I noticed that too....it looked A LOT like him!

L.

[Yariene]

Isn't great that people are hating on a character that is not Ana. We needed a break!

[looking_lost]

someone posted in the eppy thread that one of the guys buying Sawyer's necklace was Jason -- the man who shot Ana. Anyone else catch this?

I didn't notice that. I'll have to go find some screen caps.

[tnhand1022]

I'm so glad I stumbled across this forum; I'm tired of constantly defending why I don't want Ana Lucia to be killed off! The other day I had an unfortunate argument with an Ana Hater that ended in me calling her anti-feminist. That didn't help the situation...

Anyway, I look forward to chatting with everybody! :)

[Mettanna]

Dude, I totally thought it looked like him too! Let's see here...There aren't really any good screencaps of him...




http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x13-longcon/05/normal_2x14-longcon-0440.jpg

http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/Collision/normal_collision-promo23.jpg

Mmmm...I'm not sure, but I don't think so. they're similar looking, but I think they're different guys.

[Leigh]

I'm so glad I stumbled across this forum; I'm tired of constantly defending why I don't want Ana Lucia to be killed off! The other day I had an unfortunate argument with an Ana Hater that ended in me calling her anti-feminist. That didn't help the situation...

Anyway, I look forward to chatting with everybody! :)

Been there my friend, been there....don't expect much better here in this board in general...but at least your safe in this specific topic. :D

WELCOME!

[Mettanna]

I think we need an Ana-lovers slogan. You know, like how Kate has a slogan (Kate:No girl's just like her)? Yeah. We should come up with one. It would help spread some Positive Ana Energy around this place.

But I'll have to think about it...I don't know what it could be...

[Leigh]

Hmm....good idea....what shall it be?

P.S. Mettanna, I just noticed how much I love your av. ;)

[Yariene]

Kate has slogan? Really? How nice! :rolleyes:

[KeNe]

let's face it.. there's nothing they could do, it's not there decision who's gonna get killed off... so just ignore it....

[mge1979]

Kate has slogan? Really? How nice!

She does?! I wonder what it is... maybe it's like... okay never mind. i don't want to get into a fight with any Kate lovers out there...

Okay, this is totally off topic, Yarienne, your new mulder and scully banner is just gorgeous! I miss those two... now that gives me an idea, that would be absolutely hot if Michelle, Josh, and Foxy do a little something like that for Rolling Stone magazine... yummy! :p

[tnhand1022]

WELCOME!

Thanks!

[Yariene]

Okay, this is totally off topic, Yarienne, your new mulder and scully banner is just gorgeous! I miss those two... now that gives me an idea, that would be absolutely hot if Michelle, Josh, and Foxy do a little something like that for Rolling Stone magazine... yummy! :p
I'm gald you like my banner and I miss them too! They are my favorite tv couple ever. They defined UST. Such a great chemistry.
Can you imagined Foxy, Michelle and Josh doing something like that? Like a big puppy pile. It would be hot!

[Mettanna]

I never watched the X-files, but it's a very pretty sig. And thank you for the compliment on my Avatar Leigh...I do love my Capt'n Jack.

Anyway, yeah, Kate and a few other characters have slogans. Not too many people really use them, but I believe Kate's was "Kate: No girl's just like her." And I think Sayid had "Sayid: The True Island Leader."
I think a few others had 'em too, but people don't use them that often.

Anyway, I was trying to think of an Ana quote that would work, but I didn't find anything...Must keep thinking.

[Yariene]

Have you guys seen this. I laughed so hard! The things people will create, huh?

http://www.cafepress.com/thehatch/1081957

[Gage]

:crackup: some of the things on there, people create some different things, but I like them :p. Team Ana Lucia :coolguy:

[Nokoolaidforme]

LOL. Those T-shirts are hilarious.

[Leigh]

Omg....that ROCKS.

:D

[mge1979]

I love the shirts! :D
the thong looks interesting, i wonder who'll be brave enough to wear it...

[Mariusz Saint]

LOL! Strings with "Ana Lucia" :P

[ActionAimz]

LOLOL I would wear it proudly -- too cute

[La Mer]

Have you guys seen this. I laughed so hard! The things people will create, huh?

http://www.cafepress.com/thehatch/1081957

Omg, that's awesome Lol!:rotflol: They even have a bib, an apron, and a....thong?:eek: :D
I like the shirts.

[Mettanna]

Oh wow, Gage. Your avatar is beautiful!

Funny stuff dat...I want a Team Ana thong! :D (I kid, people, I kid.)

[Leigh]

Guys, how totally frightening and yet oddly cool would it be to put your baby in a 'Team Ana Lucia' onesie with a pic of a gun on it. Can you imagine the glares you'd get out in public? :D

[Gage]

:rotflol: Leigh, I read that & now I am so imaging that. I am so buying my new nephew one of those :p. I can only image the glares. I actually started to crack up just reading that.

Mettanna thanks, I like yours to. :)

[tnhand1022]

I'm looking for a beta to review a very short Ana fic that I'm working on, and figured this would be the best place to find one. I would be more than happy to return the favor!

Contact me privately if you're interested.

Thanks!
Nicole

[Yariene]

I'm letting you know that there's a new Michelle/Ana challange on the Creative LOST/Creative challenges. So go post if you know how to make graphics.

Link:
http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?p=924446#post924446

[ActionAimz]

thanks Yariene YES, I just made a bunch of new graphics which I should share here. tnhand, let me know if you still need a reader

[beauty_is_truth]

Hey y'all, another Ana Lucia supporter in the ranks, reporting for duty. I used to be pretty neutral about her, but after seeing Ana's back story I really sympathize with her and realize that her situation has made her the way she is. She may be a bit rough around the edges, but her actions with the tailies, how she became their leader and helped them all survive for their first 48 days shows that she's really got a good heart at the core. I think that her survival skills will be so important for the losties, and that she's a natural born leader, which will come in handy once the fusies start talking to her, which I think they will once they realize that her survival and leadership skills are highly developed. They just need time to get past Shannon's death, which is quite understandable. It's most obviously a mistake, and I really think that Ana Lucia will be accepted eventually, especially since at least Jack is talking to her now. So anyway, go Ana! :D

[Leigh]

*hugs*

Welcome! We need all the supporters we can get. :D

[BiggestLostfan]

check out my ana-lucia banner its banner 2

[Gage]

Hey y'all, another Ana Lucia supporter in the ranks, reporting for duty. I used to be pretty neutral about her, but after seeing Ana's back story I really sympathize with her and realize that her situation has made her the way she is. She may be a bit rough around the edges, but her actions with the tailies, how she became their leader and helped them all survive for their first 48 days shows that she's really got a good heart at the core. I think that her survival skills will be so important for the losties, and that she's a natural born leader, which will come in handy once the fusies start talking to her, which I think they will once they realize that her survival and leadership skills are highly developed. They just need time to get past Shannon's death, which is quite understandable. It's most obviously a mistake, and I really think that Ana Lucia will be accepted eventually, especially since at least Jack is talking to her now. So anyway, go Ana!

Another Ana Lucia supporter :boogie: (what is up with me and that smile lately lol)

And great Ana banner :).

[mge1979]

Hey y'all, another Ana Lucia supporter in the ranks, reporting for duty. I used to be pretty neutral about her, but after seeing Ana's back story I really sympathize with her and realize that her situation has made her the way she is. She may be a bit rough around the edges, but her actions with the tailies, how she became their leader and helped them all survive for their first 48 days shows that she's really got a good heart at the core. I think that her survival skills will be so important for the losties, and that she's a natural born leader, which will come in handy once the fusies start talking to her, which I think they will once they realize that her survival and leadership skills are highly developed. They just need time to get past Shannon's death, which is quite understandable. It's most obviously a mistake, and I really think that Ana Lucia will be accepted eventually, especially since at least Jack is talking to her now. So anyway, go Ana! :D

Awww, that is so sweet :D glad to have you here...

Guys, did any one of you order a Team Ana Lucia tee yet? :D

[Leigh]

Not yet. Money's uber tight lately, I'm gonna see if I can pull it off and if I can....I'll soon belong to "Team Ana Lucia".

:D

[tnhand1022]

Does it bother anyone else that Ana is constantly referred to as bitchy? In my mind, that word is just two steps above catty, and is closely associated with PMS.

[mge1979]

Does it bother anyone else that Ana is constantly referred to as bitchy? In my mind, that word is just two steps above catty, and is closely associated with PMS.

^I did say once that only a bitch can detect her fellow bitch if you know what i mean... :D Cheer up you'll get used to it, tnhand...;)

[ActionAimz]

Does it bother anyone else that Ana is constantly referred to as bitchy? In my mind, that word is just two steps above catty, and is closely associated with PMS.

I don't let it bother me, but I probably shouldn't fall in line with it. Whiny is two steps above catty to me. Often in this world women who are strong, capable, and take charge of situations are labeled bitches, whereas a man would be applauded for the same or harsher behavior . Had it been Eko barking orders to the rest of the Tailies instead of Ana, he would be labled fierce or a bad ass, never a bastard, or a character who needed to die.

[Leigh]

It irritates the hell out of me that she's so easily called bitchy. I've known plenty of bitchy people in my life and Ana is not at all like them. Bitchy people or bitches are usually bitter, angry, judgemental, jealous asses that try to make everyone around them miserable b/c they are....just b/c Ana get's hard on people and is take charge people call it bitchy. When a guy does it he's just tough and a bit of a hardass, but when a chick does it she's bitchy.

It's annying b/c Ana is the opposite of bitchy....Shannon was bitchy (the whole first season)....when someone deliberately tries to be mean and obnoxious, THAT is bitchy....trying to be a good leader and sometimes being overly harsh is not. I wish people knew how to differentiate between the two....

[Grhmlz]

Hi everyone. :)

New to this forum/ thread but not a new fan of Ana!!! I Usually spend my time posting at FF! LOL! She's been my favorite female character on LOST since the beginning of season 2!!!

[Yariene]

^Grhmlz, you are here! I didn't think you were going to register. Welcome! :D

[Grhmlz]

:D Hey, Yariene!! Yes, i'm here!

:) Okay, to put my 2 cents in here, Ana is not "bitchy." Or wait, is "bully" the description i'm use to hearing? Hmmm....anyway no mind because both labels are bogus.

IMO, Ana comes across as "flat out blunt and to the point." She doesn't wine, moan, and complain to get her way which in essence can make someone appear "bitchy." Sometimes her remarks are laced without a little sarcasm but hey? The situation usually called for it. I'm sorry but her type of demeanor was needed for the "tailies" survival whether that wants to be acknowledged or not. Someone like Bernard, who was too soft (and i like him), was not cut out to be leading that group!

Ana was not over-exerting or inflicting any power over the "tailies" that they weren't willing to submit to on some level! The truth is that they willingly followed under her leadership, with very little objection i might add! The Exception was Nathan, and u-hem, look where it got him! Dead!!! His constant need to rebel and challenge Ana on everything made him the perfect scapegoat for Goodwin to hide behind. Not to mention his own suspicious behavior! So, i ask, how does this make Ana a "bully"? Well, the obvious answer is that it's ludicrous.

[Leigh]

Hey guys....so I have like 10 Ana theories in my head regarding what happened after Jason, what happened between her and Danny, why she was in Sydney, etc.

One theory bout Danny that I just have a gut instinct about....you want to know what I think?

Ana had an affair....she cheated on him....perhaps out of a need to feel and getting caught up in the moment with someone or else as a way to push him away b/c she could not be around him. I don't know just...."There's nothing to work out....he left." One logically thinks that he was an sob and couldn't deal with her losing their baby, etc. But, what if the truth was that she cheated on him, either just to be with someone or else to drive him away. That's my gut's instinct, and I'm stickin to it.....though we may never know that unless MR sticks around and we get a 3rd flashback next season. The one we get before this season's up, if we even get a 2nd at all will likely deal with why she was in Sydney....but I'd love to see more backstories for her, showing the shooting/what happened with Danny post baby-loss etc. I don't know, I just love to think up Ana scenarios in my head....:D

Oh, but yeah Grhmlz....welcome! And, can I just say you're going to be a fav of mine....you speak the truth sister, don't stop! :D

[ActionAimz]

couples can easily fall apart after a tragedy like losing a child. Ana, blaming herself and being racked with guilt, she probably did everything she could to push him away to punish herself. Sniff, poor Ana, I want Jack to help her heal. Heehee. There is so much more to her story, we need more Ana backstory pronto.

[Yariene]

*whines* I don't want Ana to cheat on Danny. I want Danny to cheat on her with... Jack's wife.

[Gage]

I would rather Danny have left her because of the baby & he was just a jerk. I don't want Ana to have cheated on him either.

[Leigh]

No no....I'd much rather Ana be the cheater than the cheatee....there's more power there. To be cheated on makes you somehow lesser....weaker....unwanted somehow. I doubt that'd happen with Ana for some reason. ;)

[Gage]

^ True, no one wants to be cheated, you would rather be the cheatee. But I don't see Ana cheating on anyone. But I really don't think either cheated on the other.

[Grhmlz]

Hmmm.......interesting theories Leigh!

However, at this point, i'm not seeing anything that would indicate to me that she would have cheated on Danny. Of course, that's not to say that the show won't go there because anything is possible on it. Therefore, i won't be Shocked if Ana cheated.

But for the time being, i have a completely different perspective on Ana and Danny's relationship! I'm going to guess that if there was any "cheating"; it came from Danny's end and she pushed him away emotionally. See, i don't think Ana would have seen herself falling on the weaker end by being the one cheated on. In fact, she probably felt she had the control by emotionally surpressing him because she wouldn't break down the emotional barrier between the two of them until she was ready to. The mere fact the he could have been "physically" cheating on her could have been the result of her pushing away. However, she probably realized Danny was only getting half of what he was seeking on the outside if he truely did love her. Now, this is not to say she wouldn't be hurt by his "cheating" but just that this scenerio could easily place the "cheater" in a weaker/more submissive position.

Ana always keeps reinforcing how someone like herself is better off alone or that "she's already alone." For some reason i'm picking up these are not the sentiments of a "cheater" and i'll explain my reasoning below:

I think these two select phrases reveal a powerful hidden revelation about Ana. The first phrase, "someone like me is better off alone", parallels that exterior part of her that tries to come across tough and head-strong. She exhibited those traits in her leadership role on the island. She tried to remain in control in that position by remaining involved but distant at the same time. Well, i'm going to compare that to her life pre-crash and say this first phrase was her outlook when she was shot and lost the baby. For her, remaining strong probably included pushing Danny away and dealing with emotional pain on her own time and in her own way. In her eyes, that probably made her strong.

Now, to continue on, mixed with this strength is definitely a vulnerability that only flashes through at certain times which brings the second phrase into play, "I'm already Alone." The first vulnerable moment we were truely able to see was when she allowed herself to breakdown in front of Eko which is probably what she needed to do with Danny but never did. The next vulnerable moment is when she broke down after shooting Shannen and her group broke away to leave her. She mutters that very phrase to Libby in the jungle, "i'm already alone." See, she lead this group of people and kept them alive by trying to remain strong and tough and then in the end they all just wanted to leave her while she was having a weak moment breaking down? She probably felt betrayed and abandoned which can parallel back to Danny. While she felt she was doing the right thing by remaining tough and emotionally blocked, Danny abandons her which leads to mixed feelings of vulnerability and self-independence. As an example, i use the situation when she was on duty and pulled the gun on the man with the TV? Well, i read into that as Ana venting her own frustrations. I parallel it in this way. We see a woman and a man in a volatile confrontation with a screaming baby in the middle of it. I think in those moments Ana placed her mindset into her own situation. The man probably represented Danny and she overreacted and pulled the gun on him from her own unresolved feelings of anger towards him combined with the need to protect the baby from harm due to her own loss.

Therefore, you see, if she were the one "cheating" I think she would have been burying herself in another relationship to hide her pain or she would have jumped from relationship to relationship to avoid getting to close but that is not what it appears like she did. Instead, She seems to have put all this time and energy into creating this external facade that is suppose to show everyone that she is tough and can handle being completely alone.

:) LOL, Sorry i know this was long so i hope you were able to bare with me. When i begin to analyze, i tend to go all out!!!

[mge1979]

No no....I'd much rather Ana be the cheater than the cheatee....there's more power there. To be cheated on makes you somehow lesser....weaker....unwanted somehow. I doubt that'd happen with Ana for some reason. ;)

That storyline sounds good, but from the rabid hatred this character is getting, i'd rather have Ana as the one being cheated by Danny...


LOL, Sorry i know this was long so i hope you were able to bare with me. When i begin to analyze, i tend to go all out!!!

^Ha! you haven't read Leigh's posts yet... :D btw, glad you joined us here, Grhmlz... :D

[tnhand1022]

ActionAimz and Leigh - Couldn't have said it better myself. I hate the double-standard of how men and women are supposed to react in dire situations. The fact that Ana took up a leadership role at all led her down the "bitchy" path. I guess people wanted her to stop and ask the Tailies about their feelings or something. Like you guys said, Ana had to make tough decisions to keep everyone alive. I don't get how that equals bitchiness. Come on - it's not like she knocked somebody out, tied them up, and put an hallucinogenic on their head or anything...

Grmhlz - I think blunt is one of the best descriptors for Ana. It's also one of the many things women are not allowed to be. When a friend gets a terrible haircut and asks for an honest opinion, we all know what we're supposed to say. Being blunt is not an option! You're right, Ana is sarcastic sometimes, but I guess that's not allowed either. Jack was pretty sarcastic when he sent Boone on a wild goose chase for pens in the pilot episode, but that was allowed, and was played as humorous. Interesting point about the Tailies being willing to submit to Ana's power. I never thought of it that way, but it makes sense.

Glad I'm not the only one bothered by "bitchy"!

[ActionAimz]

Grmhlz, good insights. That is why I find Ana really fascinating, and why I was so pulled in after seeing her backstory. We don't really know the specifics of what happened with Danny other than her own conclusion that she was "meant to be alone", which to me says she would not seek out another man to cheat with, or jump into any kind of relationship, on the contrary she would further isolate herself from any and all emotional connections. She specifically said she was meant to be alone. I took it as a literal statement. So I don't think it had anything to do with infidelity. She probably just was emotionally unavailable to him and perhaps vice versa. But then again she came-on to Jack at the bar, so obviously she wasn't trying to be alone then so who knows. LOL.

Maybe she was on the road to recovery by that time she met Jack. She seemed happy to be in Sydney. But then all hell broke lose on the island and she has to relive another tragic life-altering split-second mistake. Her exile from the rest of the camp was self imposed because she thought everyone hated her, and they did all abandon her. So she probably thought, here we go again, further evidence that I just need to stay to myself. Jack was the first to reach out to her (love him for that) and seemed to not be willing to give up on her. Again, love Jack for that. :) Ahem, that's my Jana obsession coming out. LOL.

So now you see her back in the mix, going into "cop" mode and wanting to get to the bottom of what happened with Sun. I really hope they address Jack's lack of trust in her by insinuating that she may have plotted to get the guns, because that could have been a major set-back for her, considering he was the only one who truly believed in her. She seemed really excited to be teaming up with Jack, (while he, um, for whatever reason kind of gave her the brush off). For Ana to ignore that would be so un-Ana like. Either he wants her help or he doesn't. I was a bit confused by how that played out.

Maybe with Michelle now on the talk-show circuit, we'll be getting more Ana scenes this month.

[tnhand1022]

Ana had an affair....she cheated on him....perhaps out of a need to feel and getting caught up in the moment with someone or else as a way to push him away b/c she could not be around him. I don't know just...."There's nothing to work out....he left." One logically thinks that he was an sob and couldn't deal with her losing their baby, etc. But, what if the truth was that she cheated on him, either just to be with someone or else to drive him away. That's my gut's instinct, and I'm stickin to it.....

I'm with you on Ana pushing Danny away (I'm even working on a fic to that effect), but I'm not sure about the cheating. Mostly because I think she's too straightforward to do any kind of sneaking around. Maybe if she set something up, planning on Danny coming home and catching her in the act?

I had always interpreted "You hittin' that?" as her feeling out his situation with Kate because she didn't want to get in the middle of something. But having been a "cheater" in the past would be a durn good reason for her to ask. The more I think about it, the more I think it's a possibility...

Dang, Leigh, you're messing with all my preconceived notions about Ana!

[ActionAimz]

I'm with you on Ana pushing Danny away (I'm even working on a fic to that effect), but I'm not sure about the cheating. Mostly because I think she's too straightforward to do any kind of sneaking around. Maybe if she set something up, planning on Danny coming home and catching her in the act?

I had always interpreted "You hittin' that?" as her feeling out his situation with Kate because she didn't want to get in the middle of something. But having been a "cheater" in the past would be a durn good reason for her to ask. The more I think about it, the more I think it's a possibility...

Dang, Leigh, you're messing with all my preconceived notions about Ana!


Naw, that was blunt Ana verbalizing what any woman or man would be thinking in that situation. I loved the way she rationalized her assumption to Jack -- "'she's hot, you're hot, it's what people do.". Because the likelihood that they were intimate was pretty great all things considered. It was almost like it came to her that instant that there was more to Jack's feelings about Kate, so unable to censor herself she just spits it out. Ana wanted to know what kind of competition she had, because the girl still has her sights set on snagging Jack, and who could blame her. LOL.

It also lets her know where she stands or where she will stand with Kate. She knew right away that it was probably Kate who gave Jack the idea that she was untrustworthy. Ana is no dummy. She wants all cards on the table. And now she knows that Kate may give her grief down the line should she get closer to Jack.

[tnhand1022]

I really hope they address Jack's lack of trust in her by insinuating that she may have plotted to get the guns, because that could have been a major set-back for her, considering he was the only one who truly believed in her. She seemed really excited to be teaming up with Jack, (while he, um, for whatever reason kind of gave her the brush off). For Ana to ignore that would be so un-Ana like. Either he wants her help or he doesn't. I was a bit confused by how that played out.

There was something going on in Jack's head before Kate planted that seed of doubt. He looked at Ana like she was insane when she asked for the combination to the gun room. The look on her face after he walked away was just like, "So that's what he thinks of me." She was under the impression that they were on equal footing, but he knocked her back into her place. Ouch. I think that little scene is very important to their dynamic.

Here's where I get confused: based on the dialogue in The Long Con (Lost never provides straight answers), I got the impression that it was Ana's idea to get the combination from Locke, and Jack agreed to keep all the guns in one place in exchange for that combination. So how do you figure Jack isn't going to give Ana the combination when it was her friggin' idea?

Jack's not all that big on confrontation, so I wonder if he would have questioned Ana to her face if she hadn't said, "...after what happened [to Sun], people are finally willing to do something." The world may never know...

I agree that it would be un-Ana like to just let that go, but I think whatever change comes about will be internal. She's probably kicking herself for letting Jack chip away at the walls she's built, for opening herself up to that kind of rejection. I think she'll be more guarded around him now. The fact that she still approached him to talk about the army right after he bitch-slapped her down about the combo says to me that she's looking at the big picture. The safety of the group is more important than how Jack just treated her.

[tnhand1022]

Naw, that was blunt Ana verbalizing what any woman or man would be thinking in that situation.

LOL!


Ana wanted to know what kind of competition she had, because the girl still has her sights set on snagging Jack, and who could blame her.

Hmm... I just can't see Ana making a conscious attempt to snag Jack right now. I'm not saying that it's never crossed her mind, but I can't see her in any kind of pursuit. She's calmed down quite a bit since entering camp, but is still pretty deep in survival mode. While she engages in some playful banter with Jack, I don't see any end to her means right now. But that could just be me! I'm of the opinion that anything other than a good shag would be out of character for Ana right now, because I see her as still being kind of shell-shocked.


Ana is no dummy. She wants all cards on the table. And now she knows that Kate may give her grief down the line should she get closer to Jack.

She's definitely the type of person who would size everyone up, and would do so in a way that wouldn't tip Jack off.


This is what I love about the show. There can be 25 different interpretations of the same line of dialogue, especially for a character like Ana with such limited backstory information.

[ActionAimz]

The more I think about the Lon Con, the less optimistic I am that they will follow up with how it affected Jack and Ana's relationship, because first and foremost everything that happened in that eppy with Ana was to set her up as the red-herring. She was like a pawn of the writers in that regard, and that sucks. I read spoilers prior, so I knew Ana wasn't behind it. But I believe the audience was supposed to think it was Ana so we got all of those things just thrown at us with seemingly no follow-up. Hopefully I am wrong about that.

There was something going on in Jack's head before Kate planted that seed of doubt. He looked at Ana like she was insane when she asked for the combination to the gun room. The look on her face after he walked away was just like, "So that's what he thinks of me". She was under the impression that they were on equal footing, but he just knocked her back into her place. Ouch. I think that little scene is very important to their dynamic.
That was totally an ouch, and I maintain Ana backed off because he had told her all she really needed to know with his response, and that was that he doesn't trust her at all. It wasn't really about the combination, it was about where she stood with him. It was about respect. Jack looked like she knocked the wind out of him, and that was before the thing with Sun. I would think Ana would take major issue with that, maybe not right overtly right away, but add to that his insinuation that she plotted the whole thing, and at this point Ana has got to put him in check. If he doesn't trust her, sadly she needs to go on her merry way and just use him for hot sex, because Jack has lost all control and she doesn't really need him at this point. She can just as easily become allies with Sawyer or Locke, and just sex-up Jack, because he needs it. Tee hee.

Here's where I get confused: based on the dialogue in The Long Con (Lost never provides straight answers), I got the impression that it was Ana's idea to get the combination from Locke, and Jack agreed to keep all the guns in one place in exchange for that combination. So how do you figure Jack isn't going to give Ana the combination when it was her friggin' idea?
Not sure if it was her idea, but they did obviously talk about it. So it was either her idea, or an idea they reached together, either way, Jack can't just use her and expect her to fall in line like a minion. Its that, and also the way she just allowed Sayid to shoe her away last eppy that has me wondering if they are trying to tone Ana down a bit. For her to jump when men snap their fingers just doesn't seem like Ana, unless she is just laying low and sizing everyone up.

Jack's not all that big on confrontation, so I wonder if he would have questioned Ana to her face if she hadn't said, "...after what happened [to Sun], people are finally willing to do something." The world may never know...
I don't think he would have. He would have continued to give her the brush off without really expressing why. She opened the door for him to confront her, and I am glad he did. Maybe that is why she just decided to continue along with their plans to form an army as if nothing ever happened with the combination deal and all. So she could get to the bottom of why he mistrusts her. But really, does Jack think Ana would be that stupid if she had concocted that whole plot. Sheeze. LOL. Again, no credit. LOL. Lost better start showing me why Jack asked Ana to help him in the first place.

I agree that it would be un-Ana like to just let that go, but I think whatever change comes about will be internal. She's probably kicking herself for letting Jack chip away at the walls she's built, for opening herself up to that kind of rejection. I think she'll be more guarded around him now. The fact that she still approached him to talk about the army right after he bitch-slapped her down about the combo says to me that she's looking at the big picture. The safety of the group is more important than how Jack just treated her.
True but again, she doesn't really need Jack at this point. Jack has no control and is no longer in a leadership role on the island. That position is totally up for grabs. So my only conclusion is that Ana knows Jack is the most reliable of the bunch and she is smart to stick with him. Otherwise, don't see why she would bother at this point. He doesn't trust her, He doesn't have the loyalty of Locke or Sawyer or really anyone else when push comes to shove. I don't know how much Ana let her guard down with Jack. I think she does want law and order on the island just as much as Jack, so working with him was no real emotional risk for her. But I agree now she will be even more guarded than she was initially. Too bad. I am looking forward to Bonnie and Clyde kicking ass, so hopefully she will just be as blunt as always and tell him straight up that he needs to recognize. He needs her more than she needs him.

LOL!




Hmm... I just can't see Ana making a conscious attempt to snag Jack right now. I'm not saying that it's never crossed her mind, but I can't see her in any kind of pursuit. She's calmed down quite a bit since entering camp, but is still pretty deep in survival mode. While she engages in some playful banter with Jack, I don't see any end to her means right now. But that could just be me! I'm of the opinion that anything other than a good shag would be out of character for Ana right now, because I see her as still being kind of shell-shocked.

This is what I love about the show. There can be 25 different interpretations of the same line of dialogue, especially for a character like Ana with such limited backstory information.

Ana still has her eye on Jack, otherwise why would she care who he's banging. The thought would never cross her mind at all. It would be OMG an "other" pulled a gun on Kate's head, let's arm ourselves because we could all die. Is Kate alright? Was she hurt? Nooo instead the first thing that comes to her mind is are you hittin her. HAHA. She may not want to jump him now, but she is preparing herself for the time when it becomes more appropriate to make her move. HEE!!!! LOL. Nights are cold and lonely on the island. LOL. If you are going to die, might as well die with a hot man in your bed.

Even though we don't know alot about Ana right now due to lack of backstory, we were first introduced to her as someone hot for Jack. Not just mildly curious, not really put off that his father just died, not phased that he didn't seem to want to be bothered at the time. She was determined to push-up on him regardless. LOL. I am sticking to that, because that is why I fell in love with the character in the first place. LOL.

[Fish1941]

I would love to post some of these recent observations on Ana's past relationships with Danny and the Tailies, along with her present relationship with Jack.

Another note about Jack - do you think he will tell Ana-Lucia about Henry Gale?

[ActionAimz]

I would love to post some of these recent observations on Ana's past relationships with Danny and the Tailies, along with her present relationship with Jack.

Another note about Jack - do you think he will tell Ana-Lucia about Henry Gale?


Moreso, how do you think Ana would have reacted to the whole situation. Would she have backed Jack and tried to stop it, or would she have sided with Sayid. She threatened torture, with the "I'll cut off a finger" threat, but she didn't actually do it.

Normally Jack would keep the Gale thing hush hush, but since he's all alone in this, he may tell Ana, because she did have a direct encounter with one of the "others".

[Heinzy]

i cant belive how cruel ppl are bein, i no she's in the way of jate, but with her tragic story, u'd think ppl wud b more sympathetic lol i dunt think he'll tell anna tho, he may tell kate...

[tnhand1022]

ActionAimz, you are cracking me up! My boss must think I'm crazy, because daily construction reports just aren't this funny!

The more I think about the Lon Con, the less optimistic I am that they will follow up with how it affected Jack and Ana's relationship.

Lost does have a tendancy to drop the ball at times. Remember Michael's big water filtration/shower idea that looked so cool? Apparently we're the only ones who remember that.


That was totally an ouch, and I maintain Ana backed off because he had told her all she really needed to know with his response, and that was that he doesn't trust her at all.

Exactly. And Jack is way too dense to figure out that she figured that out.


Not sure if it was her idea, but they did obviously talk about it. So it was either her idea, or an idea they reached together, either way, Jack can't just use her and expect her to fall in line like a minion.

If Jack came up with the idea, I'll eat my hat. He can't strategize for sh*t. Either Ana came up with it and Jack agreed, or she gave him just enough info to let him think he came up with it on his own.


Its that, and also the way she just allowed Sayid to shoe her away last eppy that has me wondering if they are trying to tone Ana down a bit. For her to jump when men snap their fingers just doesn't seem like Ana, unless she is just laying low and sizing everyone up.

The bit with Sayid really bothered me at first, but not so much after I thought about it for a bit. Whatever goes on with the two of them is going to be extremely complicated, so I could buy her walking away out of some misguided attempt to assuage her guilt, or because she felt she owed it to him or something. She absolutely could be laying low and sizing everyone up though. Makes perfect sense.


... she doesn't really need Jack at this point. Jack has no control and is no longer in a leadership role on the island. That position is totally up for grabs. So my only conclusion is that Ana knows Jack is the most reliable of the bunch and she is smart to stick with him.

No matter what happens on an interpersonal level, Jack will always maintain some of his leadership role. It's all about supply and demand on the island: there will always be a demand for medical expertise, and Jack will always be the only supply. There is a kind of authoritativeness that is inherent to his profession, so I think people will always be willing to listen to what he has to say. And I think Ana will stick with him because she realizes that.


I don't know how much Ana let her guard down with Jack.

Ana's guard is down with Jack to the extent that her guard was down when she first met him. He knows that there is someone completely different underneath there, so it's almost like she's vulnerable with him by default, in comparison to how everyone else on the island sees her.


She may not want to jump him now, but she is preparing herself for the time when it becomes more appropriate to make her move. HEE!!!! LOL. Nights are cold and lonely on the island. LOL. If you are going to die, might as well die with a hot man in your bed.

Okay, so we agree that the timing is wrong! I'll also capitulate that she's looking at him and thinking a little something-something (who wouldn't be?), even with what went on in TLC. Trust isn't necessarily necessary for a steamy little tryst. ;) But any kind of relationshippy, emotional-connection stuff is what I'm not on board with. At least not right now. It's the whole onion argument - enough layers have been peeled away for Ana to get back to some of the flirtiness she had with him in the airport, but I don't think she's totally back there yet.


Even though we don't know alot about Ana right now due to lack of backstory, we were first introduced to her as someone hot for Jack. Not just mildly curious, not really put off that his father just died, not phased that he didn't seem to want to be bothered at the time. She was determined to push-up on him regardless. LOL. I am sticking to that, because that is why I fell in love with the character in the first place. LOL.

I'm still there with you. She had an interest, and still has an interest, but is not in a place to express that interest in a way that is good for anybody. Unless that interest is restricted to some hot, island-lovin'. ;)

[tnhand1022]

Another note about Jack - do you think he will tell Ana-Lucia about Henry Gale?

If Jack has any brains at all (which I'm starting to doubt), he'll tell Ana before someone else does, and their relationship has an even deeper rift. Even Jack has to realize that he needs all the allies he can get right now.

They've got three options: 1) only Jack, Sayid, and Locke will be taking shifts in the hatch from now on, 2) tell a select few and deny shifts to those who don't know, or 3) continue shifts as normal and let people know that there's a hostage in the armory. Any option that they choose will most likely result in the entire camp knowing anyway.

[ActionAimz]

ActionAimz, you are cracking me up! My boss must think I'm crazy, because daily construction reports just aren't this funny!



Lost does have a tendancy to drop the ball at times. Remember Michael's big water filtration/shower idea that looked so cool? Apparently we're the only ones who remember that.
Haha, so you read my fic? :) The hatch is the new caves. Not too many people remember Michael let alone what Michael engineered. LOL. And the dropping the ball thing has got to stop, because they keep piling on more and more, sooner or later they are going to have to tie up some loose ends.




Exactly. And Jack is way too dense to figure out that she figured that out.

If Jack came up with the idea, I'll eat my hat. He can't strategize for sh*t. Either Ana came up with it and Jack agreed, or she gave him just enough info to let him think he came up with it on his own.
I am foggy on the whole gun thing. Why was Locke involved at all, and where exactly were the guns before? Ana is and will probably always be one step ahead of Jack in the area of strategizing.

The bit with Sayid really bothered me at first, but not so much after I thought about it for a bit. Whatever goes on with the two of them is going to be extremely complicated, so I could buy her walking away out of some misguided attempt to assuage her guilt, or because she felt she owed it to him or something. She absolutely could be laying low and sizing everyone up though. Makes perfect sense.
Yea, maybe she just doesn't want to go there with Sayid right about now. But interesting thing is that she was looking for Jack!! Holy Moly, the Ana I know would have just gone up to Danielle herself and asked her what the hell she was doing lurking around. What's Jack going to do that she can't. LOL. Since when does Ana need to defer to the menfolk to take action. See what I mean. On the one hand, I am glad that she is thinking and seeking help before acting, but still, just didn't seem like Ana to me at first. I do want to see more of Ana and Sayid interracting, because there are lots of complexities yet to be explored. But the barking orders at her, hmph, lol I'll let it slide this time.


No matter what happens on an interpersonal level, Jack will always maintain some of his leadership role. It's all about supply and demand on the island: there will always be a demand for medical expertise, and Jack will always be the only supply. There is a kind of authoritativeness that is inherent to his profession, so I think people will always be willing to listen to what he has to say. And I think Ana will stick with him because she realizes that.
Yup yup. Despite everything, Jack is the most level-headed and pragmatic of them all. And that is sorely needed. Ana knows Sawyer is about a joke, and she must suspect Locke is a bit fruity. So many are all salty with Jack for being bossy and setting rules. I say let Jack refuse medical attention for a bit, then see how they like dem apples. They all owe their lives to that man, not to mention a big Thank You, for taking on a leadership role to begin with. But in reality, they don't realize Jack's value right now and I think any one of them is poised to turn on Jack any day now. That is why he needs Ana on his side.

Ana's guard is down with Jack to the extent that her guard was down when she first met him. He knows that there is someone completely different underneath there, so it's almost like she's vulnerable with him by default, in comparison to how everyone else on the island sees her.
Aww isn't that the sweetest too. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. Always loved the way she seems to totally soften around him. She totally put herself out there to be told to "beat it" at the airport. She knows how to work him. I am telling you, if she wanted something more with Jax, nothing would stop her from getting it. I honestly think she is simply buying her time until she can make her move again. I don't think she's given up at all. That little eye-brow raised when Jack mentioned Kate and it hit her that she has some competition. And then she finds out Kate is not above planting little notions in his head about Ana's intent. I am not sure exactly what Ana was after in the bar, meaning was it just a sex thang, or did she really want to get to know him. Who knows. She's attracted to him, is not shy about acting on that attraction, and I don't think that's gone away at all. Only now because of the circumstances, perhaps Ana will try to keep it from getting emotional. Not to worry, because Jack is pretty much the same way, which is why nothing really happened with him and Kate. He is not going to make any moves whatsoever. But Ana is not Kate, and is not going to play little games and beat around the bush. If, no when, she decides she wants it, homegirl will get it. Go Ana, Go Ana. LOL. (Sorry my agenda is clear here, can't help myself).

[tnhand1022]

Moreso, how do you think Ana would have reacted to the whole situation. Would she have backed Jack and tried to stop it, or would she have sided with Sayid. She threatened torture, with the "I'll cut off a finger" threat, but she didn't actually do it.

That's an interesting question.

I think the only reason Ana didn't go through with the cutting-off-a-finger bit is because Goodwin took matters into his own hands. I would see her as being more on Sayid's side of the argument, but whether or not she would agree with him in front of Jack is kind of intriguing.

Maybe she would've knocked Jack out and locked him in the armory so she could go about her torturing business. ;)

[Fish1941]

Since when does Ana need to defer to the menfolk to take action. See what I mean. On the one hand, I am glad that she is thinking and seeking help before acting, but still, just didn't seem like Ana to me at first. I


Either Ana is being careful right now, or the writers have changed her character to a degree that she will always be seeking the opinion or approval of the alpha males. I hope that it's the former.

[ActionAimz]

Either Ana is being careful right now, or the writers have changed her character to a degree that she will always be seeking the opinion or approval of the alpha males. I hope that it's the former.

Ugh me too. Now I have scared myself. LOL. The writers better not water her down. Grrr. Because I don't believe Sayid, and certainly not Jack could have weeded out and killed Goodwin like she did. She is fierce, and knows what she's doing.

I will believe the former though, because it's actually smart of her to enlist the help of others. Their first impression of her was a bad one, so it's best she act cooperative at this point and promote teamwork. LOL.

[tnhand1022]

The writers better not water her down.

I'm holding firm with the belief that the creators of Sydney Bristow aren't going let Ana be turned into a wimp.

[ActionAimz]

I'm holding firm with the belief that the creators of Sydney Bristow aren't going let Ana be turned into a wimp.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!

J.J. will not let us down!!!!!

If Ana is a bitch so aint Sydney. How many people did she kill. LOL. One of the best female characters ever!!!

[tnhand1022]

I am foggy on the whole gun thing. Why was Locke involved at all, and where exactly were the guns before? Ana is and will probably always be one step ahead of Jack in the area of strategizing.

The guns (except for the Marshal's) were always in the armory, but I think the door was always open until Michael took off with a gun and shut Locke and Jack in there. Afterwards, Locke took it upon himself to keep it closed and to routinely change the combination (correct me if I'm wrong). So Jack had to approach Locke for the combo.


Yea, maybe she just doesn't want to go there with Sayid right about now. But interesting thing is that she was looking for Jack!! Holy Moly, the Ana I know would have just gone up to Danielle herself and asked her what the hell she was doing lurking around. What's Jack going to do that she can't. LOL. Since when does Ana need to defer to the menfolk to take action. See what I mean.

I had totally forgotten about that! The only explanation I have is that both Jack and Ana were thrust into leadership roles without really asking for it. Maybe part of the bond that they've formed is from sharing the decision-making process. Or maybe Ana is trying to prove her trustworthiness to Jack so she can get her hands on that combo... ;)


...she must suspect Locke is a bit fruity.

LOL!!

[ActionAimz]

The guns (except for the Marshal's) were always in the armory, but I think the door was always open until Michael took off with a gun and shut Locke and Jack in there. Afterwards, Locke took it upon himself to keep it closed and to routinely change the combination (correct me if I'm wrong). So Jack had to approach Locke for the combo.

Oh yes, Michael. Makes sense now.

I had totally forgotten about that! The only explanation I have is that both Jack and Ana were thrust into leadership roles without really asking for it. Maybe part of the bond that they've formed is from sharing the decision-making process. Or maybe Ana is trying to prove her trustworthiness to Jack so she can get her hands on that combo... ;)

Or maybe she hadn't seen his fine ass around in awhile, and this was the perfect excuse to get close to him. Tee hee. But I do think that she wants people to trust her.

[Mettanna]

Well, but if she just went up to the French Woman, what was she gonna do? Ana' not dumb...she probably saw that Danielle had a gun, and she herself being unarmed, she just ran for back up. Plus, she probably wanted to be sure she wasn't making another mistaken taking Danielle for an Other (not that she doesn't look like one).

I don't think that Ana is being watered down per se...we are being shown an Ana not in 100% survival mode, certainly. But mostly she's just lying low, I think.

[Gage]

I don't think that Ana is being watered down per se...we are being shown an Ana not in 100% survival mode, certainly. But mostly she's just lying low, I think.

I agree, I think Ana is lying low now that she doesn't have to lead everyone & she doesn't want people to distrust or hate her more. She doesn't have to be the bad a$$ leader anymore, to protect everyone. And she doesn't want everyone to really not trust her and get all snappy with her.

[Grhmlz]

:) Thanks for the Welcome Guys!

I really hope they address Jack's lack of trust in her by insinuating that she may have plotted to get the guns, because that could have been a major set-back for her, considering he was the only one who truly believed in her. She seemed really excited to be teaming up with Jack, (while he, um, for whatever reason kind of gave her the brush off). For Ana to ignore that would be so un-Ana like. Either he wants her help or he doesn't. I was a bit confused by how that played out.

Yes, i agree. I had similar thoughts regarding this issue.

I believe Ana allowed her guard to remain down with Jack. Afterall, he is the only connection to her life on the island that is pre-crash. It may have only been a brief encounter but i think there is a small amount of security that comes from it. Now, after the accidental shooting of Shannen, Ana was more than willing to close herself off from the rest of the "fusie" group more than likely due to her own guilt and fear of more rejection. It was Eko that attempted to reassure her that most of the group probably acknowledged it has a mere "accident." Therefore, when Jack came to her at the end i feel it helped to relax her to the idea of opening up more to him.

Now, looking back, i realized that Jack did appear somewhat cold and distant from her after she confronted him about getting the door combination from Locke! What Was that about? Well, i really have no idea but i found it a bit strange since he was willing to gain her insight into his idea with the army to begin with. So, i was sort of left asking myself did some of his doubt about Ana come into play before Kate approached with the insinuation about her involvement in Sun's attack?

So, the question being is Ana effected by Jack's accusation against her? Yes, i think she was initially bothered and maybe she will put her guard up a bit in coming episodes. I mean, i thought it was kind of sad because although you won't ever see her huddled off in a corner crying over it i paralleled two moments on the show. The first being at the end of What Kate Did when she was off on the beach alone carving away at her stick! Obviously, a distractive technique to keep her mind busy but then Jack approached her and she let that guard down when he opened up to her. Then, we have her sitting alone in the dark at the end of The Long Con before Jack confronts Locke about the guns. Once again, she's carving away at her stick reverting back to that distractive technique. See, while we won't see her "balling her eyes out emotionally", i think these small moments provide some insight into some of her vulnerable moments on the show.

However, I fully realize that Ana is smart and she's not going to allow her vulnerable moments to overshadow her sensibilities! She knew enough to confront Jack right back by asking him how he came up with such an idea. Obviously, it didn't make much sense to her that this man would go out of his way to seek her help than "second guess" her at the drop of a hat!!! Therefore, i'm wondering if Jack and Ana are just both going to swallow their pride over the incident since they both may have come to realize they were both being used as pawns in a grander scheme cooked up by Sawyer.

This is why i enjoy the complexity of this character because Ana's persona is an effective combination of self-independence laced with human vulnerability! It will be interesting to see how the writers balance these character traits without completely shifting in one direction more than the other one. Unfortunately, she's already been inaccurately labeled as a "power-hungry mongrel" (rolleyes); therefore it will be good to watch some of those softer moments play out during the storylines. However, this should not be done at the expense of casting off Ana's independent nature or strong-willed tempermant because that is essentially pivotal to who the character is and has become. We witnessed this the first 48 days when she was cast into her leadership role with the rest of the "tailies."

[Mettanna]

Going off our current subject for a sec, I thought you guys would find this interesting. I went way back into L-F's archive because...I got bored, and I felt like it, to see what things were like back in the olden days...(people were actually ANTI Charlie/Claire, and FOR Charlie/Shannon.)

Anyway, I found this quote...it was a Sawyer fans frustration with always being on the dfeensive for Sawyer.

Guys, is it just me or do we seem to constantly defend Sawyer's reasoning? I've just had a very long discussion regarding Sawyer's past, his feeling towards Jack, Kate, etc etc etc and all i get out of them is stuff like "no, he doesn't feel any remorse", "he has no heart", "he ruins people's lives and wants us to feel sorry for him"....I mean....do some people not get the subtext of this character at all? Thank god on this forum most people can form an opinion based on the real reasoning behind this characterization. I mean, I know there's people who hate him, and I disagree with their points but I can appreciate them!! Argh, it's so frustrating to explain to people who base all their argument on implication, or "well, he stole stuff from Boone so he must be a bastard for beating him up when going through his things"....did they not watch the show because I'm sure he said he found the book.

So, could there be hope for Ana in the future? I mean, look at how much everyone LOVES Sawyer now...

[ActionAimz]

:) =

Now, looking back, i realized that Jack did appear somewhat cold and distant from her after she confronted him about getting the door combination from Locke! What Was that about? Well, i really have no idea but i found it a bit strange since he was willing to gain her insight into his idea with the army to begin with. So, i was sort of left asking myself did some of his doubt about Ana come into play before Kate approached with the insinuation about her involvement in Sun's attack?

It really bugs me when I think about, which I probably do way too much. She had to yell his name twice and run after him before he decided to turn around and acknowledge her. I know I keep saying this, but excuse me, didn't he ask her for help? She did not insinuate herself into the situation ala Kate, so why is he treating her like Kate. Shrug, maybe he didn't hear her? To me it would have been alot more effective if we had seen that camraderie in the beginning, only to see that dissipate as the episode unfolded, but right off the bat we see Jack seemingly -- um -- irritated, but he is like that with everyone these days.


Then, we have her sitting alone in the dark at the end of The Long Con before Jack confronts Locke about the guns. Once again, she's carving away at her stick reverting back to that distractive technique. See, while we won't see her "balling her eyes out emotionally", i think these small moments provide some insight into some of her vulnerable moments on the show.

I missed that entirely, must have stepped away from the TV. Yup nice parallel. And at that point she was unsure how many people believed that she was behind the whole thing -- how many people Kate told -- and now the one person who believed in her no longer does. -- aww that's got to hurt. I suspect pride will be swallowed, what other alternative do they have. Ana is likely happy that at least knows where she stands, and to watch out for Kate.

:) =
This is why i enjoy the complexity of this character because Ana's persona is an effective combination of self-independence laced with human vulnerability! It will be interesting to see how the writers balance these character traits without completely shifting in one direction more than the other one. Unfortunately, she's already been inaccurately labeled as a "power-hungry mongrel" (rolleyes); therefore it will be good to watch some of those softer moments play out during the storylines. However, this should not be done at the expense of casting off Ana's independent nature or strong-willed tempermant because that is essentially pivotal to who the character is and has become. We witnessed this the first 48 days when she was cast into her leadership role with the rest of the "tailies."


I love her for the same reasons. Her breakdown in front of Sayid, sealed the deal for me. There is some deep deep pain there, and I suspect there is more story to tell concerning her mother too.

I think Michelle herself may save the character in situations where she is yeilding control and tempers her aggressive behavior. It's in her tone of voice and looks -- oh the looks. That look she gave Jack after the combination request and Kate were priceless. It totally shows that she will not be messed with when push comes to shove. Her fierce looks, with no immediate action, says to me that she is laying low for now just sizing-up the group dynamics, but she will rise up at any moment if needed-- if you mess with her. Only Michelle could pull that of off so effectively.

[Leigh]

Totally agree....it's all in the eyes.

I loved the whole "Where would you get an idea like that?" She didn't even friggin blink she held her ground so hard.

You literally know exactly what the character of Ana is feeling when she speaks just b/c of the look in her eyes. Just b/c Michelle Rodriguez talks animatedly sometimes and has very distinct features and expressions people want to call it bad or overacting, b/c sometimes it's a bit distracting....but if your smart and observant enough to look past that and actually look AT HER EYES, you'll see such a dark sadness and confidence and expression there that is just unmatched. She flawlessly delivers even the lamest and most unimportant of lines, and THAT is acting.

[ActionAimz]

Totally agree....it's all in the eyes.

I loved the whole "Where would you get an idea like that?" She didn't even friggin blink she held her ground so hard.

You literally know exactly what the character of Ana is feeling when she speaks just b/c of the look in her eyes. Just b/c Michelle Rodriguez talks animatedly sometimes and has very distinct features and expressions people want to call it bad or overacting, b/c sometimes it's a bit distracting....but if your smart and observant enough to look past that and actually look AT HER EYES, you'll see such a dark sadness and confidence and expression there that is just unmatched. She flawlessly delivers even the lamest and most unimportant of lines, and THAT is acting.

Michelle catches way too much flack for being typecast, or playing herself, as if that mere fact renders her talentless. What she does, she does well. And it is acting, no matter how many tough chick roles she plays, it doesn't make her any less of an actor, who has to interpret and portray a scene with autheticity. Mind you I never heard of Michelle before Lost so that bar scene was my first glimpse, and sharp contrast to the other 48 days -- totally different vibe. There is something always so real and raw and vulnerable in Michelle's performances, and if she draws on personal experiences so be it. I think Lost creators are well aware of Michelle's background and acting style, and they hired her because of it, not in spite of it.

In fact I was listening to a podcast of a panel discussion with some Lost actors and writers. The majority of them did not read nor were they cast for a particular roles. J.J and company looked for that certain something special within each actor and created roles for them. There are few exceptions, but Yunjin, Harold, Jorge all said that. I believe that Michelle and Adwale (sp?), probably were cast that way as well.


I loved her delivery with Jack too, especially her response to where she was that morning "Lots of places." hahahaha, so smooth that delivery -- like don't even try to pin something on me. I find that hilarious that she immediately knew where Jack was going.

[Leigh]

I loved her delivery with Jack too, especially her response to where she was that morning "Lots of places." hahahaha, so smooth that delivery -- like don't even try to pin something on me. I find that hilarious that she immediately knew where Jack was going.

GREAT line. It was so quick and confident. Like she knew she didn't have to answer to him or anyone. She just answered so quick and simply and I loved it. It was such a cool thing to say. :D

And I agree about the Michelle bit. They knew her and what she'd done. They knew what she was about and what she brought to the screen. They could have cast ANYONE, bigger star, unknown, etc. and yet they cast HER. They wanted HER....and she is very distinctive in her style....and they knew that....and I'd much rather side with brilliant people like JJ friggin Abrams and such than with people who's opnions don't matter squat. I think we'd be in pretty damn good company sharing that opinion of MR with them.

[tnhand1022]

Not having the internet at home really sucks. I miss all the great evening discussions, and have to play catch-up in the morning! ;)

So, the question being is Ana effected by Jack's accusation against her? Yes, i think she was initially bothered and maybe she will put her guard up a bit in coming episodes. I mean, i thought it was kind of sad because although you won't ever see her huddled off in a corner crying over it i paralleled two moments on the show. The first being at the end of What Kate Did when she was off on the beach alone carving away at her stick! Obviously, a distractive technique to keep her mind busy but then Jack approached her and she let that guard down when he opened up to her. Then, we have her sitting alone in the dark at the end of The Long Con before Jack confronts Locke about the guns. Once again, she's carving away at her stick reverting back to that distractive technique. See, while we won't see her "balling her eyes out emotionally", i think these small moments provide some insight into some of her vulnerable moments on the show.

Huh. I've noticed both stick-carving scenes, and have wondered what the heck she's carving (if this were the Buffyverse I'd say stakes), but I never made the connection between her carving and her emotional state. Excellent observation.

The stick-carving scene in TLC struck me because it was the first time we saw Ana in the midst of camp. I was kind of surprised to see her sitting there by the fire with everyone else around. I wonder if this is the first time she's joined the group like that, and if so, why? There was also the little gun summit earlier in the episode where Ana joined the fusie elite (Jack, Kate, Locke, and Sawyer) to discuss the matter at hand. That was a pretty big development as well. Now that I think about it, The Long Con was a pivotal episode for Ana, despite the small amount of time she was actually on screen. To quote MR, it's the "quiet subtlety" of the show that I love. Big things can happen without huge dramatic events.

[tnhand1022]

Michelle catches way too much flack for being typecast, or playing herself, as if that mere fact renders her talentless. What she does, she does well. And it is acting, no matter how many tough chick roles she plays, it doesn't make her any less of an actor, who has to interpret and portray a scene with autheticity.

Grr! Why are strong women such an anomaly that MR gets typecast for portraying them? And why is she "playing herself" because she's independent and capable as well? How many men play the same tough-guy action-star over and over? Hello? Double standard?


Mind you I never heard of Michelle before Lost so that bar scene was my first glimpse...

You should definitely rent her movies. Good stuff. Girlfight was awesome.

[Yariene]

Do you guys know if Ana is going to be on Maternity Leave? I read somewhere that we won't see her tomorrow.

[tnhand1022]

Do you guys know if Ana is going to be on Maternity Leave? I read somewhere that we won't see her tomorrow.

No clue. I avoid spoilers like the plague. I hope that's just a rumor though!

[Yariene]

I don't know how can you avoid spoilers. I would love to be spoiler free, but for me is impossible.

[Grhmlz]

Yariene, i read spoilers too but i don't remember coming across any information that said Ana wouldn't be in the episode.

However, since it is a Claire-Centric Eppy, it won't surprise me if she is not (still trying to figure out how Kate gets to be in it when she's hardly been involved with a Claire plotline But Whatever rolleyes )! Then again, if we are lucky enough to see her at all it will probably only be one or two times at most.

To be honest, this pattern is starting to tick me off a bit too because it seems like the writers have no whims about throwing Kate into any plotlines as long as she gets screen time. And get this? I'm actually a Kate fan and i admit it's irritating the living daylights out of me now. I just don't understand how the writers can introduce a character, like Ana, so strongly in the beginning with a pivotal role only to cast her into the background now walking in the shadows of Jack, Kate, or Locke. Ana's character belongs on equal ground.

[ActionAimz]

Ana is in a screencap with Kate, Jack, Sawyer and Locke for this episode. She we'll catch a glimpse of her. Betcha they are talking about GUNS.

http://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-

I hear ya about Kate Grhmlz. If she weren't constantly shoved at us, I could tolerate her a bit more. And lately all she's done is cause more mayhem and be a little busy body. I am ready for her to take a nice long nap wherever Walt and Michael are right now. I just need a break from Freckles' Hour.

I am looking forward to seeing Claire though. And what about Sun. And we've learned nothing about Libby. There are other females on this program. I'd wish they'd use them more.

[Leigh]

Do you guys know if Ana is going to be on Maternity Leave? I read somewhere that we won't see her tomorrow.


WHAT.

Where did you hear this....and if it's true then I'm literally gonna throw a hissy fit. I get that she won't be involved in the Libby/Claire/Kate/Danielle stuff. BUT part of the ep description is how Jack and Locke struggle to keep their prisoner a secret. Well, Ana SHOULD play a huge friggin part in that. She doing a sort of co leader army thing with Jack, Ana is a huge aspect of the whole The Others bit and such, so to simply have her not even try to ask Jack what's going on or not get to see/try to see the prisoner is to me piss poor writing. These people are neglecting important and blatantly frickin obvious stuff that SHOULD involve Ana moreso than ANYONE else. God, if this is true I'm gonna be so freaking pissed off.

It's bad enough that we've only gotten between 20 seconds and 2 minutes of Ana in the last 6 FREAKING EPISODES, but now she might not gonna be in it at all this week?! What. The. Hell.

You don't bring a semi-famous movie actress onto a show and let her dominate for three major sweeps eps, then only give her less than a minute of screentime in half a dozen or more eps after that. I don't care what the hell is going on behind the scenes....they are majorly screwing up. Capturing an Other should involve Ana no matter what....it's like having a drug related episode and leaving Charlie out of it. Or having a medical crisis and Jack is not around. Jesus Christ, these people need to wake the hell up and realize they are freaking WASTING MR's talent and time....and our time too....if they don't want to use her (and use her when any writer with a brain should know they should) then just let her go. I'd rather her not be on at all then be grossly misused and neglecting during times she should be involved more than anyone.

Rant over. Thanks for pissing me off Yariene. :p

:D ;)

[ActionAimz]

Take some deep, deep breaths Leigh.

Are we not supposed to believe the promo screencaps? Because if we are, she's on tomorrow.

[Leigh]

If you're talking about the one where they're all standing around in a group looking wet....that is a misfiled pic from The Long Con. That is clearly from the "Where did you find her/we need to check it out with guns." scene.

Look, this is a screen caps for The Long Con:
http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/galleries/lost/lost_2x13_1/2x13_020.jpg

It's the same scene. L-M just never moved it.

So....I'm still freaking out. :p

[ActionAimz]

yup that's the one

So continue with your rant. :mad:

[Leigh]

LMAO. Ok, thanks.

ARRRRRRRRRGHHHHH!!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

*panting heavily*

[Fish1941]

If you're talking about the one where they're all standing around in a group looking wet....that is a misfiled pic from The Long Con.

But this scene doesn't jibe with what we've seen in "The Long Con". At least to me. Why would Sawyer be involved in a conversation with Jack and Locke about the guns, when he was engaged in the con in the first place? And neither Locke, Kate or Sawyer were involved in Jack's army at that point.

[Leigh]

I know, it doesn't seem right or realistic, but it's that scene alright.

That seems to be a trend with the writers....they don't think through which characters would logically be used in which scenes....well....obviously, or else in TLC Ana wouldn't have just fallen off the face of the earth and not had any contribution or even be friggin shown when Sawyer revealed himself.

She also should have been involved in the Henry bit in One of Them....but nothin. Where was she when baby Aarin was nabbed by Charlie in Fire+Water? Ana has baby issues....yet nada. Ana's a skilled gal, but in the Hunting Party....nada. Ana and Eko were close, yet in the 23rd Psalm she's no where around. They are screwing up majorly. There's certain storylines that should involve the use of certain characters....they are so off base with that it's not even funny.

Claire goes off in the next ep to find answers....why the HELL is Kate going? Danielle I can understand b/c she has a past with Claire and Aaron....but why Kate? No reason that's why. It should be Locke with them, and meanwhile Ana should find out about the prisoner and play a part in the conflict Jack/Sayid conflict. THAT's how Maternity Leave should play out....but you know it won't.

[ActionAimz]

Can I ask a shallow question?

Why is it that Ana has not been allowed to change clothes since she set foot on the airplane? It's basketloads for everyone else.

[Mettanna]

^ My mum says she thinks it's symbolic of how the Fusies haven't really accepted Ana yet. Then, some day, they shall present her with clothes in the Fusie Initiation Ceremony, and she will Belong. :)



Ana and Eko were close, yet in the 23rd Psalm she's no where around

I know. The Aneko shippin' side of me was saddened. The writers ahve said that they really want to focus on the old folk after the Tailie-intensive beginnibg of the season...they felt like our dear old friends had kind been pushed to the back burner, and they wanted to go back to them for a while. But, I believe Ana will be getting more and more involved as Tension Regarding the Others and the Army grows...

Although, I must say, I would consider us lucky if we get some Ana-ness tomorrow...there really isn't much of an opening in there for her, aside from possibly the keeping Henry a secret thing. But that might just be Locke and Jack fighting like sisssies again. Or more, Jack fighting with Locke, since it very often seems to be Jack who has the problem....

Still, I'm excited for this episode, because I have been wantin' some answers on this Claire thing for ages. They'd better make it good.

[Remus Lupin]

I know, it doesn't seem right or realistic, but it's that scene alright.

That seems to be a trend with the writers....they don't think through which characters would logically be used in which scenes....well....obviously, or else in TLC Ana wouldn't have just fallen off the face of the earth and not had any contribution or even be friggin shown when Sawyer revealed himself.

She also should have been involved in the Henry bit in One of Them....but nothin. Where was she when baby Aarin was nabbed by Charlie in Fire+Water? Ana has baby issues....yet nada. Ana's a skilled gal, but in the Hunting Party....nada. Ana and Eko were close, yet in the 23rd Psalm she's no where around. They are screwing up majorly. There's certain storylines that should involve the use of certain characters....they are so off base with that it's not even funny.

Claire goes off in the next ep to find answers....why the HELL is Kate going? Danielle I can understand b/c she has a past with Claire and Aaron....but why Kate? No reason that's why. It should be Locke with them, and meanwhile Ana should find out about the prisoner and play a part in the conflict Jack/Sayid conflict. THAT's how Maternity Leave should play out....but you know it won't.

I agree with you here. Ana should DEFINITELY be more in Lost. I think she should have been in involved with Henry Gale. Somehow, I would've trusted her judgement way more than Sayid's or Locke's. (Besides Jack and Ana in the same scene is SOO great!! ;)) And I think she should've joined Locke in punching Charlie in Fire + Water.

I guess the reason that she doesn't get to be with these people is that they don't trust her too much. Neither Claire or Danielle know her at all, so it'd be a little awkward. Besides Kate is about as smart as Ana is (but I think Ana is a little smarter - but just a little :p) and I think Kate is very capable too.

I like what they've done with Ana. She was a real bitch in the first few episodes, but after Abandoned I started liking her. And then slowly it turned into loving her. Now I'm REALLY into Ana. But she's not in Maternity Leave at ALL! I hope she'll get another episode this season.

[Grhmlz]

But she's not in Maternity Leave at ALL! I hope she'll get another episode this season.

:confused: :( Wait, so you know for a fact that she won't be in the episode Tomorrow night? Urrggh......

The only reason i'm looking forward to it is because it's about Claire and should answer some questions about her!

But other than that, i'm sick and tired of only seeing Ana scattered here and there in 1 or 2 scenes less than a minute long!!! And let me just express my irritation on the possiblity that Kate might find out from Jack about Henry being in the hath before Ana does...........

(***runs off before entering full rant mode......***)

[tnhand1022]

But this scene doesn't jibe with what we've seen in "The Long Con". At least to me. Why would Sawyer be involved in a conversation with Jack and Locke about the guns, when he was engaged in the con in the first place? And neither Locke, Kate or Sawyer were involved in Jack's army at that point.

That conversation was the big summit right after an injured Sun was brought back to camp. Jack, Locke, Kate, Sawyer, and Ana were standing around discussing what to do, and Ana said they should mount up and head out, with guns. It didn't have anything to do with the army or the current status of the guns.

Photographic memory here. Sorry. :rolleyes:

[tnhand1022]

I don't know how can you avoid spoilers. I would love to be spoiler free, but for me is impossible.

I'm very militant about it. I don't even watch the preview for the next week's episode. Way back when I got spoiled out of the big reveal on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode, Enemies. I was so pissed I stopped reading spoilers and watching previews right there.

Wow. Just realized I've been spoiler-free for 7 years. Doesn't that mean I'm a virgin again? ;)

[Remus Lupin]

:confused: :( Wait, so you know for a fact that she won't be in the episode Tomorrow night? Urrggh......

The only reason i'm looking forward to it is because it's about Claire and should answer some questions about her!

But other than that, i'm sick and tired of only seeing Ana scattered here and there in 1 or 2 scenes less than a minute long!!! And let me just express my irritation on the possiblity that Kate might find out from Jack about Henry being in the hath before Ana does...........

(***runs off before entering full rant mode......***)

I love all the characters. ALL OF THEM. Some more than the others, perhaps, but just a bit. I really enjoy seeing Ana on screen though. But Henry Gale, my #1 favourite is in this episode, so YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!

[Grhmlz]

I love all the characters. ALL OF THEM. Some more than the others, perhaps, but just a bit. I really enjoy seeing Ana on screen though. But Henry Gale, my #1 favourite is in this episode, so YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!

LOL!!! Well, i like all of the characters most of the time but there are a few that have been really getting on my nerves lately. So, i have no problems expressing/joking some of my frustrations on unappreciation threads at FF!!! lol Kate has not gotten there yet and i don't want it to because i like Skate but i'm getting annoyed by the fact that some of these characters are being thrown into any storyline even if it doesn't make sense for them to be there. I mean, personally, i would have preferred seeing Sun involved in Claire's story more.

The only valid plotline that makes sense to have Ana involved in right now is the Henry Gale story since Jack is suppose to be partnered up with her on what is going on with the "Others." I mean, he had no problem coming to her for her expertise as a "cop" regarding the army formation, why not come to her now regarding Henry??? Ana may have aquired certain interrogation tactics as a cop that allow her to decipher if someone has something to hide! I say let her give it a go and question him but don't just let the character fall by the wasteside with no involvement with anything!!!

[ghostgirl05]

Wow, I feel pretty dumb because all of you are analyzing Ana and what we know about her. I'm not that great with that kind of thing, lol, but I understand what you guys are pointing out and it makes it a little easier for me to understand her more and how much I love Ana more.
Michelle makes her so strong yet so human like with the emotions. I wish to be strong as Ana and to be bold. But I'm more like Sun/Claire, lol, but that's cool too.:D
So, keep holding on my Ana-fan friends :D, we'll make the Ana haters see that she's not that bad :D. Hopefully.

[Leigh]

*hugs hostgirl05*

:)

[Mettanna]

Run for it spoiler-phobics.


I just watched the AOL clips...yeah, Im thinkin Ana ain't around much in this one...in fact, it doesn't look like she's involved in the Henry thing. Turns out Eko is the one who wants to question Mr. "Gale". Well, he has Other Experience Credentials too...and he has had even less screen time than Ana lately. I love that man....

[ghostgirl05]

Awww!! Thanks Leigh!!!:hug2:

[Leigh]

Run for it spoiler-phobics.


I just watched the AOL clips...yeah, Im thinkin Ana ain't around much in this one...in fact, it doesn't look like she's involved in the Henry thing. Turns out Eko is the one who wants to question Mr. "Gale". Well, he has Other Experience Credentials too...and he has had even less screen time than Ana lately. I love that man....

Hey, I love Eko too....the man rules. But questioning Gale is NOT, and I repeat NOT his place. WHAT THE FLYING FLIPPING FUDGE IS THIS CRAP!? Eko of all people is gonna be in on this? Where the hell is Ana? Huh? Ana's like....'The Others chick"....the fact that they are neglecting using her for this storyline is the biggest dumbass oversight of the writers in awhile. This is just plain friggin silly. *shakes head*

I'm like so pissed right now it's not even funny. It's one thing to not use her for stuff she really has no involvement in like the Claire/Kate/searching bit and such....but THIS? THIS is EXACTLY the type of thing that Ana should be logically in on....what the hell are these idiot writers thinking.....SERIOUSLY. :mad:

[Grhmlz]

Personally, if you want my opinion, their infamous line of "we don't let the actors/actresses personal lives direct the storyline..." blah blah is turning out to be the biggest line of bull because it sure looks like its effecting it to me. I mean, seriously folks, is it just me or has Ana's character been completely downplayed since the second half of the season returned? We've seen her in a small scene here and there for maybe a couple minutes at a time. That is hardly building up a character to become involved in important plot points!

And Leigh's right, now we have Eko of all people leading an interrogation of Henry? I love the guy, but something doesn't fit right here. Wasn't this the same guy that was opposed to her tactics with Nathan and made it his business to feed him while she was trying to interrogate him about his suspicious demeanor? Hmmm.... I don't get it!!

[Fish1941]

And Leigh's right, now we have Eko of all people leading an interrogation of Henry? I love the guy, but something doesn't fit right here. Wasn't this the same guy that was opposed to her tactics with Nathan and made it his business to feed him while she was trying to interrogate him about his suspicious demeanor? Hmmm.... I don't get it!!

I must admit that Eko's part in the Nathan situation has left me wondering.

If Eko really had a problem with Ana-Lucia's tactics regarding Nathan, why didn't he free the guy? Why did Eko merely fed Nathan, instead of helping him out of the pit? Never made any sense to me . . . unless Eko was also suspicious and had no problem with Ana keeping Nathan in the pit.


Danielle I can understand b/c she has a past with Claire and Aaron....but why Kate?

Kate was the one who had delivered Aaron in "Do No Harm".

[Remus Lupin]

Yeah. Ana should've more screentime. But Kate and Claire have been friends since the very first few episodes, so I don't see why Claire would hang with Ana who had actually just shot Shannon. I mean, we all know it was an accident and they know it too, but it still feels horrible that someone killed one of your friends. And she barely knows Ana. So I think Kate's presence is pretty justifiable.

Eko is very insightful. I am EXTREMELY happy that he is the one who interrogates Henry. If someone can get something out of him (that is, if he's lying) it's Eko. He's got some charm, the man.

[Leigh]

Yeah so you wanna read something that'll make you scream?

Check out the "Lost synopsis from the Canadians" thread in Spoilers. Wow....that's friggin hilarious (the Kate bit).

*shakes head at the stupidity of it all*

[ActionAimz]

Thanks for the link Leigh. You are crackin me up in that thread BTW. I really thought maybe Lost was shifting away from ALL-MIGHTY SUPER KATE by introducing a truly kick-ass, take charge character - aka Ana. I am highly highly disappointed that she is so grossly underutilized. Echo killed two others. WTF ever. That ish makes me so red hot I can't even type straight, and I dig Eko, but his whole path to righteousness is beyond worn into the ground by now.

Back to Kate, not surprised at all, I just thought they were maybe moving away from her being all up in everybody's koolade. The joke's on me. The thing about Kate is that I can't for the life of me figure out why we are to believe that she would have these types of abilitities. She was a bumbling con-artist and fugative. Ana was a cop, she had professional training in survival tactics. Even before Ana appeared, I never related to Kate on any level. She could climb trees and tagalong, that was it.

I'll keep hope alive that we will see Ana more in the coming week, as it seems they are really about to start a war between Jack and Locke.

[Grhmlz]

Yeah. Ana should've more screentime. But Kate and Claire have been friends since the very first few episodes, so I don't see why Claire would hang with Ana who had actually just shot Shannon. I mean, we all know it was an accident and they know it too, but it still feels horrible that someone killed one of your friends. And she barely knows Ana. So I think Kate's presence is pretty justifiable.

:) I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on one point here. I happen to be a Kate Fan, but i think she looks way out of place in this storyline. Her major focus has always been "tagging along" with the boys and now she's tagging along with Claire? The only major interaction Kate has had with Claire is when she helped to deliver her baby! That hardly established any long standing friendship at least not from what i've seen. Actually, i was a little blown away to suddenly find her in Claire's tent when Charlie approached during Fire + Water when that aired.

For me, it would have even made more sense to see Sun involved in this plot. At least Sun was the one involved with her last season, when Danielle hit Claire over the head and kidnapped Aaron! But that's just me.

I wouldn't even expect to find Ana involved in this particular storyline. And i actually want more Ana scenes. I'm still trying to figure out what Kate's place in all of this besides the writers just trying to thrown in screentime for her?

Eko is very insightful. I am EXTREMELY happy that he is the one who interrogates Henry. If someone can get something out of him (that is, if he's lying) it's Eko. He's got some charm, the man.

:) Yes, i really like Eko and would like to see much more of him but i still think it would have made more sense to pull Ana into this plot as far as interrogation is concerned. She was a cop and would be more skill-oriented! Eko may just be able to represent himself as an "intimidation" factor but that's not guaranteed to provide results. Ana may not get answers but at least she is trained with a certain type of insight to suspect whether or not someone is hiding something even if they refuse to be truthful. That's why Nathan and Ana clashed because she zeroed in on his suspicious behavior! He may not have been the spy, but there was something that dude was hiding! Nobody takes off into a jungle alone for 2 hours to figure out how to go to the bathroom! Especially, when you already know there is a threat out there!

[ActionAimz]

Ana nabbed Nathan with her interrogation tactics. Maybe that is why she is being left out, because she might actually accomplish the goal (heavy sarcasm)

I have to be careful not to spoil here but Eko :shifty:

[ActionAimz]

PREVIEWS :D :D :D :D :D

Spoiler I knew Locke would approach her and keep it from Jack

[Yariene]

DUDES! Did you see the previews for the next episode? Now, that's what I'm talking about! Locke went to Ana to resolve the Henry situation. Henry draws Ana a map to find the balloon and the Ana goes to Sayid. That episode is going to kick ass! Too bad we have to wait for March 22nd for the next episode.

I love Locke again. He went behind Jack's back. Jack is going to be pissed.

[ActionAimz]

DUDES! Did you see the previews for the next episode? Now, that's what I'm talking about! Locke went to Ana to resolve the Henry situation. Henry draws Ana a map to fnd the balloon and the Ana goes to Sayid. That episode is going to kick ass! Too bad we have to wait for March 22nd for the next episode.


March 22, my birthday!!!!

So excited, and Michelle is doing the media thing the week prior.

I knew, just knew Locke was going to approach her while keeping it from Jack.


Ana and Sayid!!!!!!!!!!

VERY HAPPY NOW

[Yariene]

I love Jack but he is acting like a moron. He just doesn't realize the mess he is in. He should be making Ana his ally but no he is ignoring her. He doesn't trust her. I wouldn't be surprise if Ana starts turning to Locke now.

[ActionAimz]

I love Jack but he is acting like a moron. He just doesn't realize the mess he is in. He should be making Ana his ally but no he is ignoring her. He doesn't trust her. I wouldn't be surprise if Ana starts turning to Locke now.

This is exactly what Jack needs, and I honestly had a feeling this would happen. Ana was the only capable person totally on his side and he used her then brushed her off. So Locke is smart enough to approach her at a time when Jack is being an ass. Props to Locke. And then she's interracting with Sayid, whho now also has major issues with Jack. Ultimately I think this will be a wakeup call for Jack in a big way. Ana is too pragmatic to really deal with Locke for too long I don't see her truly becoming his ally, but she is not going to sit around and wait to be ordered around like she's somebody's lackey. I so hope Lost gives this to me and other Ana fans. Jack's got alot of apologizing to do. And I love Jack, but yea he needs this rude awakening -- he needs Ana, but she can do perfectly fine without him.

[Yariene]

I can already see Jack being all high and mighty. He's going to say, How can you do this without my pemision? How can you go behind my back? They go behind his back because he doesn't do anything. He's the leader and he is the least pro active person ever.

[ActionAimz]

Jack does what he can, like he said tonight you just have to keep doing. He tried the army thing but went about it all the wrong way. First of all it seemed like Ana was the one doing all the work trying to round up recruits while he couldn't hardly be bothered to even listen to her updates. then the ass has to go and question Ana's motives, when she was working her tail off at HIS request. I am still a touch irritated about that. LOL. Still love Jana, and hoping this is a bridge to Jack taking her seriously and taking action to get her back on his side.

[Yariene]

Jack could have been doing so many things that doesn't involve guns; to make the castaways feel safe. He's not doing anything to protect the group form the freaks. He could arrange for some training. Like hand to hand combat. He has a soldier and a cop to help him. He could be planning stuff that doesn't need guns. He could be doing other things. If he doesn't know what to do. He should ask Ana, Sayid, Locke, etc. He shouldn't ask people to help him and then ignore them. I just don't undetstand him.

[Leigh]

Ok guys I never really understood why you guys used the term "squee"....it always seemed....odd.

But after tonights preview, I can officially say.....SQUUUEEEEEEEEEEE!!

:D

You all know how much I was bitchin about Ana not interrogating him, now I can stop. :D I have to say though, it does seem a bit out of character for Ana to treat him nicely. She has a tendency towards massive violence/rage when it comes to possible Others....so I really think she meets him and then thinks he is NOT one....if she thought he COULD be one, then I just know she'd start her own cruel interrogation/threats. The fact that she almost seems to be showing him kindness in the promo/giving him the chance to prove his story shows that she obviously doubts that he's one of them, b/c let's face it if she thought he was, he'd be in for some serious punishment....or he'd be dead. So yeah, for whatever reason that I guess we'll see, she obviously doesn't think he's one of them....interesting!

Anyway, here's some Ana caps I made from the promo for those who need/want 'em. Just click the thumbnails for the larger versions. :)

http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_01.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_01.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_02.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_02.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_03.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_03.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_04.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_04.jpg)

http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_05.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_05.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_06.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_06.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_07.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_07.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_08.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_08.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_09.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_09.jpg)

L.

[ActionAimz]

GO ANA, GO ANA


SQUEEEEEEE

thanks for the cappies Leigh, I was just about to go hunting. Does anyone have a transcript or a vid clip, because I was so busy going SQUEE. lol, that I didn't quite catch the thing with Sayid. I am so so excited that she is interracting with Sayid. MR and Naveen have amazing chemistry.


Ana is smart, if she's being milder with Henry it's because she's workin him period. She was totally that way with Goodwin up til the very end. And since they are not under seige like they were in the last 48 days, and Henry is not an immediate threat, there is no need for those types of tactics. Back then she was totally at war. Now it's much different and she has calm people backing her, not a bunch of frieghtened castaways.

[ActionAimz]

sorry in advance for double post, but is anyone watching Jimmy Kimmel right now, Ana-Lucia was in his monologue.


Something like Lost was on tonight ... a few weeks ago Ana-Lucia accidentally shot Sayid's girlfriend Shannon, well tonight the islanders elected her Vice President. Took me a sec to get the Dick Channey correlation. Lame, but how cool to hear her name while typing about her.

[Leigh]

*shakes head at Jimmy Kimmel*

But yeah I did the same thing, I got so excited to see MR filling up most of the promo that I totally didn't pay attention to what was being said.

Here's a transcript of the promo Aimz:

(shows Locke)
Locke: "We got a serious problem."
(shows Ana)
Ana: "Does Jack know your comin to me with this?"
(shows Jack looking at Henry in the room)
Locke: "I don't need Jack's permission....cause right now there's a man that's in my hatch, and I want him out."
VOICEOVER: COMING UP ON LOST (while showing Ana running)
(shows Henry, then Ana with him)
Ana: "You draw up that map, I'll find your balloon."
(shows Ana handing map to Sayid and Charlie)
Charlie: "What if the map is wrong?"
(shows Henry looking scared)
Henry: "They'll crucify me."
(shows Ana kneeling down pulling her hair back. She's next to a sitting Sayid and sleeping Charlie in the middle of the dark jungle by a fire. Shows Sayid gazing creepily into the fire.)
Sayid: "Once we find out he is one of them, something will have to be done."
(shows Ana looking serious)
(shows Sun looking like she's gonna pass out or be sick or something and Bernard and Rose are near her)
Rose: "Honey, are you alright?"
Sun: "I'm ok."
(shows Sawyer and Sun)
Sun: "Sawyer. I need a pregnancy test."
VOICEOVER: LOST, WEDNESDAYS 9/8 CENTRAL

That's it. Totally cool promo. :)

[ActionAimz]

Leigh you Rock!!!!


I love love the promo. I can't wait. :) :) :) :)

First of all. I am so giddy that Locke goes to Ana to solve this problem. He just wants to end this thing with Henry. Sayid, Jack, Eko -- no progress. Ana -- now we're getting somewhere. :)

I've already said what I need to say about Jack. Hmph.:shifty: But I am glad Ana is still showing loyalty to him by at least asking if he knows Locke is coming to her. It's smart of her too, that she understands the dynamic between Locke and Jack and doesn't want to get caught in the middle of their pissing contest.

What's up with Charlie, so Sayid is his best friend now? LOL. And he's sleeping while Ana and Sayid are plotting too. Funny.

"Sayid gazes creepily into the fire" LOL

I wonder why Ana is sprinting down the beach like that.

Finally Sayid and Ana working together is so intriguing considering the circumstances. :love: Sayid is thinking he's gonna have to kill Henry:blank:

[Yariene]

Charlie is sleeping? I didn't even notice that.

About Henry Gale and Ana: Of course she could be being nice to Henry to work him, to get some info. But also think she's being nice to him because of her involvement on what happened Nathan. Maybe she doesn't want that situation to occur again.

[Grhmlz]

:nod: Yes, I agree Yariene. Ana is smart and she might be playing the "i'll sympathize with you" card to weed information out of Henry; however, i definitely believe that she is trying to be more careful after the Nathan incident. Nathan was suspicious no doubt but it wasn't enough to guarantee that he was one of the "Others." Like Nathan, if Henry comes across as supicious, it could be tied completely to something else.

Okay, i'm probably in the minority saying this, but i'm not going to blame this one on Jack. Yes, the guy has made mistakes (and i definitely feel he should make some more serious attempts to include Ana in what's happening); however, i'm getting fed up with Locke here. While i'm happy that Ana will finally be discovering that Henry is in the hatch, Locke is ticking me off because he clearly has his own agenda here as well. Locke had no intentions of ever going to Ana with this information until Henry pulled a fast one with a "mind manipulation technique" over Locke. Locke's use to wielding that kind of power through game-playing and he is disturbed that someone else got to him like that. So, now he decides to approach Ana and tell her he wants this guy out of HIS hatch??? That seems, to me, to based more off of a personal agenda rather than getting anything accomplished. Jack did nothing to him in this particular situation yet he's going on the defensive? Why, because he feels like he's living in the shadow of Jack like Henry threw in his face? That's not Jack's fault especially since last season he pushed Jack to accept this role.

I don't know, i guess sometimes it just irritates me that Jack takes all the slack for bad decisions that other people help to contribute to! It was Sayid that brought Henry there to begin with insisting that he was an "Other" in the end of it all and Locke was backing Sayid up over it. Neither of them even bothered to approach Jack about it initially until he walked in on them in the hatch!!! Then, behind his back, they pull that fast one and don't even consult him regarding the interrogation of Henry. Even if they knew Jack would disagree with the tactics they intended to use, they still should have consulted him regarding it out of respect. Especially if you're looking to the guy to lead, c'mon now? That's not right. It's like Jack said, "everyone expects him to lead until he makes a decision they don't like." Jack is going to make mistakes, because to error is human. But i just don't like all this business about everyone going behind each other's back to get something done. This is going to cause further dissension amongst the group and take the focus off of the real threat that is out there, these "Others."

I'm glad that Ana at least had the decency to bring up Jack out of respect. This is a quality that some of these other people are lacking in. See, even though Jack shunned her by making that false accusation regarding Sun, she's not plotting her lastest attempt to go behind his back to complete her own agenda. And i would love it if she tells Locke that she'll go to Henry and question him but after she tells Jack. Not for permission but just to keep Jack informed out of respect regarding what she knows and how she plans on going about it.

[ActionAimz]

It's not Jack's fault. It's not anybody's fault. There is no right or wrong here, they are all just following their instincts. Just like Jack said last night to Locke -- there is no longterm plan for pushing the button, but we do it anyway. Not a single person on that island has the definitive answer. And the biggest problem they all have is this need to one up and undermine each other. Jack is just as unwilling to yeild power and control as anyone. He kind of works with Locke, but he is like the mirror opposite of him. He kind of wanted to work with Ana, but he didn't trust her or seem really interested enough in her to follow through. His tactics are wrong, but no he is not the only one. Nobody has done any better than Jack. And really it seems like Ana (although I may be biased) is the first person to actually do the obvious. If they guy said he landed there in a hotair balloon then let's go find it and verify. Duh? If he burried his wife, then show me the grave. Henry offered to take Sayid there, but he figured torturing the guy and beating him to a pulp was a better tactic. Jack thinks keeping him in prison indefinitely is the only way to go. Locke doesn't know what the F to do at this point. They are all idiots!!!

I totally agree Grhmlz that Locke is solely motivated by being able to one-up Jack. That is the only reason why he let Sayid in there to torture Henry, and the only reason why he let Sawyer con him out of the guns, because he knew Jack wouldn't like it. Period. I am not sure he goes to Ana just to piss off Jack though. By default, she is probably the only skilled person left to develop a plan of action. It's probably just a perk that she happens to be tight with Jack. So he kills two birds with one stone. To his credit he did recognize that they just can't keep Henry there forever before Henry played mind games with him. He wants him out now, but someone needs to do something. And hell, let it be kick-ass Ana.

That said, Locke is a big cry baby. To be so easily manipulated by Henry and for a grown man to throw a temper tantrum like that was just laughable. I highly expect Ana to see this about him immediately and not get pulled into his mess. She will remain her own person. I think she will make it clear to all concerned that she is not blindly loyal to any of them.

While she owes nothing to Jack, I agree Grhmlz that it's good that she askes Locke if Jack knows. But not only to show loyalty or to be decent, but to show Locke that she CAN NOT BE MANIPULATED and to show Jack that other people value her. Ana is pretty quick to recognize hidden motivations.

But the big difference between Locke and Jack in regards to Ana. One, Jack has yet to tell Ana anything about Henry and if he did, he certainly wouldn't let her call the shots. Locke on the other hand asks her and apparently steps aside and lets Ana do her thing because next we see her running the show with Sayid and maybe Charlie's help. So in my book Locke has one up on Jack in that regard, regardless of his motivations. I think it's interesting that the three main outcasts of the camp are teaming together on this.

[Gage]

Charlie is sleeping? I didn't even notice that.

About Henry Gale and Ana: Of course she could be being nice to Henry to work him, to get some info. But also think she's being nice to him because of her involvement on what happened Nathan. Maybe she doesn't want that situation to occur again.

I think she might be being nice to him to work him to. But also I think she might know Sayid has already had his hands on him and she is just wanting to find that balloon & see if he is telling the truth. She doesn't want to go interongating him & getting the others disliking here more. But I think she wants to find that balloon and then go from there. And now that she is on this part of the island she doesn't have to be so mean to everyone she doesn't know, I think she also doesn't want to have the situation with Nathan occur again some what to. She's being more careful now with making decisons maybe, not having to make quick decisons like in the jungle, she has time to think about them more here.


That promo made me so happy. I can't wait till the next new ep, which is like forever away :(. But it should be packed with Ana :w00t:. So its worth the wait.

Next ep we're finally getting alot more Ana. So happy, can't wait! :boogie:


^ActionAimz, Ana seems like the smart one on the island to me (Part of me loves her to much to say different) but she is very smart. The balloon thing, it is the obvious thing to do & she is the one who aparently is going to go & find it, do something about it.

[ActionAimz]

Yea I know Gage, like Duh, dumbasses just go look for the balloon, a shallow grave, something.

That is what a good crime investigator would do -- go to the scene to gather evidence that's ANA. Notice she was the one who wanted to go back to the exact place Sun was abducted (armed of course) to investigate, while all her island buddies stood their with their thumbs up their asses arguing about guns.

[Leigh]

Notice she was the one who wanted to go back to the exact place Sun was abducted (armed of course) to investigate, while all her island buddies stood their with their thumbs up their asses arguing about guns.

HA! :D

See, now your a REASONABLE person who deducted the LOGICAL reason for her doing that....all the haters and non-understanding people took that scene to go, "See! All she wants is the guns! Stupid crazy blah blah blah!".

But yeah, you rule. *thumbs up*

I have to say it's refreshing to see her taking the logical approach....though I never really blamed Ana for the Nathan bit I did cringe that she was wrong (so we think anyway lol)...if anything people should take this Henry Gale bit as personal growth....Ana seems the kind to totally learn from her mistakes, unfortunately other bad crap happens when she changes her plan. She is careful and gives someone the benefit of the doubt and she's shot four times, she then reacts quicker and shoots first and Shannon dies. What the hell is the girl supposed to do?! She thinks Nathan's an Other so she takes him hostage and he dies....she wants to be more careful about Henry, and just watch that will turn out bad too b/c the writers have this issue with letting Ana ever be right. They obviously have their favorites....Eko, Sayid, etc. and everyone else is just a numnut TRYING to be smart....Ana is SMART. Sh'e proven that moreso than she's proven otherwise even with the ACCIDENTAL shooting and Nathan bit and such. She was right so many times in 48 Days but no one cared or noticed b/c they had to throw in mistakes like Nathan and then an ep later have her kill Shannon/take hostages. Everytime she starts to look like one of the wisest surivors.....they go and undo it....not to me, but to those who hate who COULD possibly be turned if they handled the Ana-writing better.

I just hope that whatever happens with Gale, she ends up being right....the character needs that. If she's wrong about this and Sayid's right, it'll officially make him seem superior to her and make her look like a dumbass....and she's not, and they need to let her not be. Besides, Sayi'd getting a God complex and I do not understand why. Yeah, he's an Iraqi soldeir....so effing what?! lol They are making like Mr. All-Kwoing pompous and I'm tired of it. I used to like Sayid but this new arrogant guy is irritating me. He needs to be taken down a notch, and who better to do it than Ana....

[ActionAimz]

That's the first thing I though of when they were on the beach -- Ana was behaving like a cop not some militant, gun-hungry vigilante. We've all seen enough cop shows to know how an investigation is supposed to go down.

I don' t know Leigh, I guess it's good that I stick to Ana friendly threads, because I don't see Sayid as almighty right, like EVER. He looked like a total basket case hypocritical ass at the end of that eppy. First of all he accomplished absolutely nothing with his torture, second of all he said he would never torture again after Sawyer and he did and used Charlie getting hung to justify his lack of remorse. Then he accuses Jack of not remembering Charlie almost died when it was Jack who saved Charlie's life when Sayid was nowhere to be found, probably making googoo eyes at Shannon. Seriously Sayid is just as bumbling and useless as the rest of them. I love Sayid, but he is extremely inconsistent and therefore cannot be trusted to do the right thing. Seriously I thought he looked pathetic by the end of that eppy. He accomplished nothing. Line up Locke, Jack, Eko, same conclusion. No progress. Ana gets a map without having to use plyers or break dishes or cut off hairs -- progress.

As far as Nathan is concerned. I was Ana neutral during the Last 48 days, and after they got attacked, kids disappear, I felt she did what needed to be done. And she ultimately was right, and ultimately got something accomplished. Goodwin killed Nathan because he feared Ana, Goodwin was always watching Ana, sleeping next to her, chatting with her, because he knew she had the brains to eventually figure things out. Ana still eventually got her man, displaying much skillz in the process. Now if anyone can effectively interrogate, Ana can.

As far as looking stupid and being wrong, lately that would be Kate. I am sure you can agree with that one. :) Last night, although I did love that it was an entire female venture, Kate really did nothing but stand around looking confused and giving Danielle the evil eye.

Ana rocks. I don't care if she is not always right, she is smarter than any of them even on her worst days. :p

[Leigh]

No progress. Ana gets a map without having to use plyers or break dishes or cut off hairs -- progress.

Good point...all the 'mr. in charge'-es haven't been able to do squat, but she will. Muwah!

As far as looking stupid and being wrong, lately that would be Kate. I am sure you can agree with that one. :) Last night, although I did love that it was an entire female venture, Kate really did nothing but stand around looking confused and giving Danielle the evil eye.

Don't even get me started. I totally agree. A cardboard cutout woulda been more effective....the chick can't even handle a gun believably (sorry but that's Evie's fault, not bashing just pointing out...she seems like a lovely girl but the way she cocked that gun and the way she TRIED to chase Danielle away from camp made me actually laugh out loud....poor Evie, she tries but it just ain't happening).

Ana rocks. I don't care if she is not always right, she is smarter than any of them even on her worst days. :p

That reminds me of the Resident Evil commentary. Michelle is talking about how she wished she'd became a zombie earlier on so she could tracked them all down and killed them....the director says yeah but she wouldn't have the ability to track or hunt them b/c her brain would effectively be useless b/c she'd be dead....she responds by saying, "Yeah but all I really need is like a half a brain to outsmart you guys." LMAO. That's so totally appropriate here with this character too.

[ActionAimz]

Good point...all the 'mr. in charge'-es haven't been able to do squat, but she will. Muwah!



Don't even get me started. I totally agree. A cardboard cutout woulda been more effective....the chick can't even handle a gun believably (sorry but that's Evie's fault, not bashing just pointing out...she seems like a lovely girl but the way she cocked that gun and the way she TRIED to chase Danielle away from camp made me actually laugh out loud....poor Evie, she tries but it just ain't happening).

I hear ya. Evie's a sweet girl, and I am sure I would probably love her in any other role on any other show besides Kate. She just lacks the edge to be believable in that role, and makes the character as written all the more confusing to me. Sadly Lost seems not to notice this or care at this point. She is the Lost poster girl.



hat reminds me of the Resident Evil commentary. Michelle is talking about how she wished she'd became a zombie earlier on so she could tracked them all down and killed them....the director says yeah but she wouldn't have the ability to track or hunt them b/c her brain would effectively be useless b/c she'd be dead....she responds by saying, "Yeah but all I really need is like a half a brain to outsmart you guys." LMAO. That's so totally appropriate here with this character too.
Michelle is a riot. She loves that movie. I could totally see Ana saying that, and soon, to every damn man on that island.

[Leigh]

I could totally see Ana saying that, and soon, to every damn man on that island.

....and one woman. :D

;)

[Remus Lupin]

I'm glad that Ana is nice to Henry. He hasn't had the best treatment around here and she actually agrees to help him and everything! I am so in love with Ana right now. And I think Sayid should die an agonizing death. He's insane certainty about Henry's Otheriness is psychotic, intolerable, unacceptable, crazy and idiotic!

[Leigh]

Well, she kinda has to. It's the only approach that no one has tried and I'm sure she knows it. Ana knows when to cut her losses, so when she knows they've already tried beatings and intimidatings and nothing worked, she needs to try something else.

But, to be honest, I almost wish that she WOULD torture the guy. I never got to see her cut anyone's finger off and I really want to. Is that wrong? :D

[Remus Lupin]

Yes, I think that is wrong. :p Unless it's Sayid. *evil grin* But my Henry? I will personally murder ANYBODY who lays an attacking hand on him again.

[ActionAimz]

The Promo photos are up now. Leigh et al.

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&meta=lastup&cat=0&pos=0

[La Mer]

I just looked at the promo pics and I'm excited about this episode. I think it's going to be very interesting watching her interact with Sayid. And I'm so glad Ana is going out into the jungle on an expedition. I actually do like Kate, but I'm getting annoyed by her need to go out into the heart of darkness every. single. time. lol. I'm glad they're mixing it up a bit having different groups of people go out into the jungle with last week's being Danielle, Kate, and Claire and the next episode being Ana, Sayid, and Charlie. It's refreshing to watch and I am so happy that Ana is going to be getting more screen time.

[ActionAimz]

I love your banner La Mer. I am equally excited to see Sun and Jin have a backstory in the next eppy. They look so beautiful in those screencaps.

And I agree, Ana, Sayid and Charlie is such an interesting mix to go on an expedition -- a much needed change of pace.

[Mettanna]

^ Yeah, that's gonna be really cool.

Oh yay, promo pics!!!!! I love it when the promo pics are up. They weren't earlier...
Ooooh, I'm like...really excited! And...le gasp! Did Ana get a new article of clothing? That doesn't look like her jacket...it's a shirt...Aw, man now I really don't wanna wait 3 weeks...

Jungle treks are awesome. And what an excellent group. Sayid, Charlie, and Ana. It's weird, but personally I am liking Sayid more and more this season. Last season I was indifferent towards him, but now I'm like "Yeah Sayid!"

I'm still kind of concerned though. Because if Henry is an Other (and I'm pretty certain that he is) what are they going to find if they follow that map?

http://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/whole-truth/normal_wholetruthpromo26.jpg

^ I'm sorry, but that picture is funny.

[La Mer]

I love your banner La Mer.

Thanks!:) I really like your banner, great pic of Foxy right there:thud: I could look at that all day lol. Yeah I love Jin and Sun, I hope their flashbacks are good and looking foward to seeing more from Ana!

[Fish1941]

^ Yeah, that's gonna be really cool.

Oh yay, promo pics!!!!! I love it when the promo pics are up. They weren't earlier...
Ooooh, I'm like...really excited! And...le gasp! Did Ana get a new article of clothing? That doesn't look like her jacket...it's a shirt...Aw, man now I really don't wanna wait 3 weeks...

Jungle treks are awesome. And what an excellent group. Sayid, Charlie, and Ana. It's weird, but personally I am liking Sayid more and more this season. Last season I was indifferent towards him, but now I'm like "Yeah Sayid!"

I'm still kind of concerned though. Because if Henry is an Other (and I'm pretty certain that he is) what are they going to find if they follow that map?

http://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/whole-truth/normal_wholetruthpromo26.jpg

^ I'm sorry, but that picture is funny.

What's up with Charlie's expression? He really doesn't like Ana-Lucia, does he?

[ActionAimz]

It looks like he's having fun with her. Since he's dangling a gun, I have a feeling he may be taunting her about it? Like should I give it to you or him?

We shall see, but if Charlie is involved there should be some humorous antics.

[Yariene]

^ If what you say is true, Ana should give Charlie a humorous ass kicking.

Lets see if that scene makes it to the show.

[ActionAimz]

^ If what you say is true, Ana should give Charlie an humorous ass kicking.

Lets see if that scene makes it to the show.

LOLOLOL. Yup an ass wuppin just for laughs. :D

Charlie will have to learn not to mess with Ana. Hmph.

[Yariene]

an humorous? I don't know how to write! :o

I will laugh my ass off if she kicks his ass.

[Gage]

This ep is going to rock. There is going to be a good amount of Ana, I can't wait. Ana's getting new clothes, Finally.

What is up with Charlie's expresion there? That scene better make it into the ep or I will be angry. I really want to know whats going on in that scene.

Ana, Sayid & Charlie they seem like an interesting group & funny with Charlie. I can't wait for this ep. I am really looking forward to this ep. A decent amount of Ana. Can't wait to see Ana, Sayid & Charlie & Jin & Sun flashback I bet isn't going to bad. This ep is going to be one of the best.

I can't wait for Ana in this ep.

[Leigh]

This ep is going to rock. There is going to be a good amount of Ana, I can't wait. Ana's getting new clothes, Finally.

What is up with Charlie's expresion there? That scene better make it into the ep or I will be angry. I really want to know whats going on in that scene.

Ana, Sayid & Charlie they seem like an interesting group & funny with Charlie. I can't wait for this ep. I am really looking forward to this ep. A decent amount of Ana. Can't wait to see Ana, Sayid & Charlie & Jin & Sun flashback I bet isn't going to bad. This ep is going to be one of the best.

I can't wait for Ana in this ep.

I wouldn't exactly call that "new clothes" since it's the same thing she always wear just with a slight coverup lol.

So let's talk clothes. Such a small change/touch....very similar yet very different. I like it....when I saw the set pics a few days ago I though yeesh that's really....salmon-colored. But now I see it's not that bad....more of a tannish-creamish weird color. It totally looks good on her, feminine yet badass just like her vest and her outfit. I love that what she wears is so totally cool and flattering. Everyone else has at least 1 outfit that makes you cringe (well, except Kate, she has like 3)....but Ana so far has been in the same cool thing, now she adds a very small touch and it just happens to look just as friggin cool! The leather vest thing looked totally cool too but in a much more harsh unfeminine/bulky way....this new thing makes her seem totally still her toughass self yet with more of a normal touch you know?

For some reason putting MR in a vest like thing just makes her look buff yet feminine....and this one moreso than her leather vest which to me is a good thing....while the leather thing was tough and cool it was bulky and hid her figure and therefore made her less....I don't know....feminine seeming? With this it gives her femininity, yet she still looks totally down to business/badass. They are definitely right on in the wardrobe department for Ana. To me, even though she's got the simplest, she has the best wardrobe of anyone. That's why I'm totally ok if she stays in it forever....just keep doing what they are doing now....add a new touch/accent every now and then....but keep the jeans and black top the whole time throughout. B/c quite frankly it's the most flattering outfit anyone has on the show. Period.

Um, can someone help me....I don't think I'm gonna make it till March 22. *rocks in fetal position*

[Mettanna]

^ *sigh* I know. But, the crazy re-run-ness is over soon! The Whole Truth is the first of three episodes in a row, and then it's a two week break and then it's like a five-week episode run straight through to the finale.

I hate hiatuses (hiatusi?). They're so horrible...it makes it hard to really get into what's going on...:mad: But, not to much longer now...

Anyway, but with that picture...I don't know what's actually going on, but it just totally looks like one of those caption contest pictures to me...I do wonder if that one'll make it into the episode, and what exactly is going on in it if it does...

[Gage]

I thought I could handle the wait some what but the more I look at all of those promo pics of Ana I really can't wait till the ep runs. I am really looking forward to Ana, Sayid, & Charlie. I can't wait to see what is going to happen there.

Three week wait :panic:

[Grhmlz]

Yes, i'm excited for the new episode as well. This "trio" is going to be funny to watch because it will interesting to see how Ana interacts with Charlie and Sayid during a longer period of time.

As for Ana's clothing, is it just me or does it look like she has on a pair of jeans that are a tad bit lighter than what she was wearing before? When i was looking at the blown-up promo pic at lost-media (where it looks like she is helping Charlie up), the jeans almost appeared pre-washed? I thought she was wearing a darker shade of blue before that?

[Leigh]

You know, I kinda thought that too....but who knows. *shrugs* :p

[Yariene]

I don't like Ana's top and not because it looks ugly on her. I don't like it because she's naked. MR is giving every cast mamber and crew a free show.

[Grhmlz]

^LOL Are you talking about the promo pics? But i thought i saw the black tank top still under that other one???

[Yariene]

^ No, like in The Long Con or when its raining and she's only using the black top.

Did you see the promo pics for The Long Con? Poor MR was NAKED!

[Grhmlz]

^LOL Oh yeah, i know what you're referring to! When Ana, Jack, Locke, Sawyer, and Kate are all huddled in that group discussing the situation over Sun and the guns!

Well, in the promo pics for the upcoming Episode, Charlie has a gun in his hand so i'm assuming someone goes to Sawyer to get the gun! Does anybody think it's Ana? But then again, maybe it's Charlie after their little Long Con charade together.

[Remus Lupin]

Sawyer said people have to go to him to get a gun. Perhaps they do that before they head off in the jungle. Every rational man would. Kate did that too in Maternity Leave and she got it off Sawyer easily. Just had to tell WHY.

[Grhmlz]

^ Yes, i agree. I was just wondering who would go to him to get it? Also, i wonder if Ana will have any issues of handling a gun again especially while she is with Sayid on the hike!!!

[Mettanna]

^ I would imagine that that particular subject will probably be breached at least once.

[Leigh]

I don't like Ana's top and not because it looks ugly on her. I don't like it because she's naked. MR is giving every cast mamber and crew a free show.

LMAO. And that's why it was hard to believe that anyone on set didn't enjoy her company. :D No seriously, lol....the promo pic shot where she's soaking wet....I was like, what's the point of even wearing a top? Man, at least Evie gets a bra....poor Michelle was thrown a small black undertee and told "here's your wardrobe, and yeah sometime's we're gonna wet ya down to boot....get used to it". You know MR doesn't usually go for that sort of blatant exploitation....which is what strikes me as funny that she's put up with it. :D

I hope Ana has no guns issues....to me....I don't want to see her hesitate/look uncomfortable with a gun....to me that would only make her seem....more flawed....less trustworothy with a gun. I want to see her know what she did and not be different b/c of it. It was an accident, and when she gets another gun I want to see her be the totally competant badass she always is. :)

[ActionAimz]

Somehow I think Michelle would kick some ass if the wet black tankbra brought some unwelcomed attention. She is not the modest type when it comes to top gear though anyway; she often doesn't have her twins all bounded up -- eh, she probably doesn't care

[tnhand1022]

I thought you guys might be interested to know what two of Lost's writers have to say about the backlash against Ana Lucia: http://nikitangel.livejournal.com/265863.html

It's question #4.

[ActionAimz]

Thanks. I don't really know how to take that, other than it confirms that the writers never intended for Ana to be universally loved in the first place. That is why I laugh when people claim she is a big flop and Lost has to cut its loses and write out the character. This was all by design.

LOLOL at “[you have] five seconds”. I only remember her counting once with Sawyer before she socked him. That's definitely Ana though. I loved her from day one. And if we are lucky enough to see more of her she will "win over hearts".

[Mettanna]

Spoiler-ish post!




Lost-Media deosn't have them yet, but episode 17 promo pics (http://abcmedianet.com/ph_search/search_lv.htm?startat=12&folderno=&airdate=&show_name=LOST&imagetype=&update=&prog_num=001648&keyword=&hits=150&pgsplit=12)are up at abcmedia! A Locke episode, but plently of Ana fun still...


LOST - "Lockdown" - When the hatch suddenly takes on a life of its own, Locke is forced to enlist the help of an unlikely ally. Meanwhile, Ana Lucia, Sayid and Charlie go off into the jungle to find out the truth about Henry, on "Lost," WEDNESDAY, MARCH 29 (9:00-10:01 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network. (ABC/MARIO PEREZ)

[Gage]

^Thankz Mettanna, for the promo pics. I can't help my self anymore when it comes to spoilers :giggle:. Wish there were bigger pics of the new promos already. I am so happy there is finally a good amount of Ana coming into the eps :w00t:. Can't wait till the new eps start showing :D.

[ActionAimz]

Thanks. I am confused about the photos. Is this all on March 22, because they would be doing two backstories -- Jin/Sun and Locke? So Locke must be the following week, but all those photos of Ana and Co. are for "The whole truth"?

And they seemed to have stumbled upon a grave. Henry's wife?

[Mettanna]

No, these pics are for March 29th.I guess that The Sayid/Ana/Charlie trek takes more than one episode. I figure they must be setting out in "The Whole Truth"( the 22nd), and then they actually find the grave and stuff in "Lockdown." (the 29th)

[Grhmlz]

:) Thanks for the link! I just took a look at the promo pics! It definitely looks like the hike is going to cover both eppys!!! That's Okay! At least we're getting more of Ana and she's actually involved in something for a change instead of sitting on a beach somewhere staring off into the ocean or busting her butt to help out only to be accused of harming Sun!!!

[Fish1941]

Do you think the writers will tackle the issue of Jack's accusation against Ana in "The Long Con"?

[Mettanna]

I dunno...but it cetainly doesn't look like she'll be hangin' with him much in these next few. (Good.:D )

[Gage]

Do you think the writers will tackle the issue of Jack's accusation against Ana in "The Long Con"?

I don't know really but look at "The Hunting Party" what has Jack done with Kate but walk away in that one ep, he doesn't seem mad or anything after all he listened to her about Ana attacking Sun *sigh* (:no: dumb Jack). But hopefully something happens they can't just ignore that he accussed Ana, didn't trust her.

[Leigh]

I hope they'll tackle his accusations in TLC....they'd better not just drop it like they did their first meeting, the army, etc.

Fish, just wanted to say that I loved what you said last in the Hate Thread....I love how some of the haters just make things up in their head and speak it as if it's turth and reason to hate AL (like the cop/mother thing). That's like me saying, "Yeah....I hate Locke b/c he eats babie!" It's like...wha? WTF you talking about....?!

That kind of silliness never ceases to amaze me. I can DEAL with people who hate characters for what we KNOW they've done for OBVIOUS reasons....but when you just make broad assumptions and start literally making up random things in your head and using it as reason to bash bash bash....well, that's just delusional behavior.

Let's just star making things up to LIKE Ana shall we? Remember that time she defused the nuclear bomb? Remember when she delivered Claire's baby? Huh...yeah she rules for that. *rolls eyes* There....now we're doing what the Ana haters are doing except in the opposite direction. :D

[ActionAimz]

I hope they'll tackle his accusations in TLC....they'd better not just drop it like they did their first meeting, the army, etc.

Fish, just wanted to say that I loved what you said last in the Hate Thread....I love how some of the haters just make things up in their head and speak it as if it's turth and reason to hate AL (like the cop/mother thing). That's like me saying, "Yeah....I hate Locke b/c he eats babie!" It's like...wha? WTF you talking about....?!

That kind of silliness never ceases to amaze me. I can DEAL with people who hate characters for what we KNOW they've done for OBVIOUS reasons....but when you just make broad assumptions and start literally making up random things in your head and using it as reason to bash bash bash....well, that's just delusional behavior.

Let's just star making things up to LIKE Ana shall we? Remember that time she defused the nuclear bomb? Remember when she delivered Claire's baby? Huh...yeah she rules for that. *rolls eyes* There....now we're doing what the Ana haters are doing except in the opposite direction. :D


LOLOL Leigh. When she defused that bomb strapped to Kate's back-- wow I was on the edge of my seat. She probably helped Sawyer and Kate grow closer because she surely made his gunshot wound so much worse by sucker punching him, and just being plain bitchy. In fact, isn't she the one that really shot him too since she is a trigger happy gun monger. Except only she uses spears, and her fists quite effectively too. Loved when she wrestled with the black smoke and kept all the Tailies from being sucked away. And remember what she did to that poor polar bear after he snatched Aaron from his crib :shudder:

In fact Ana saved all the Tailies' asses. Now that can be debated as the gospel truth, and it is the truth as far as I am concerned.

I REALLY like to recollect the time Ana "hit" Jack in an airport utility closet, just like your fic. :rolleyes:

The first time I break my rule and go into the Ana hate thread I read that ish. So now Ana needs to die because she was a lousy cop who didn't deserve to be a cop because she made one split second mistake, and was only on the force because of her mother. Kind of like Kate being a lousy con-artist ,and she's not very good at being a fugative either not at least without getting people killed and getting caught, over and over again. I can't stand when people have to fish for made-up reasons to bash a character. That's when it's time to step away and meet with a reality check.

[Grhmlz]

LMAO ^^^ HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! You guys are way too funny!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember everything! All that happened in that second jam-packed Ana Flasback eppy we were waiting for all season, right? :D

[ActionAimz]

LMAO ^^^ HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! You guys are way too funny!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember everything! All that happened in that second jam-packed Ana Flasback eppy we were waiting for all season, right? :D


Yup, that's the episode where Ana singlehandedly helps Charlie overcome his Heroin addiction.

[Grhmlz]

LOL ^A-huh! Because we found out Ana was really an undercover NUN and she convinced Charlie it was better to use the Virgin Mary Statues for Praying and Not Drug Stashing!!!

lol Seriously, i guess we can all write for this show, huh? :nod:

[ActionAimz]

LOL ^A-huh! Because we found out Ana was really an undercover NUN and she convinced Charlie it was better to use the Virgin Mary Statues for Praying and Not Drug Stashing!!!

lol Seriously, i guess we can all write for this show, huh? :nod:


A Nun with a Gun. Who gets to hit on cute guys in bars as part of her missionary work to heal all the troubled souls. Ana was sent from the heavens just to make Jack smile.

[Grhmlz]

A Nun with a Gun. Who gets to hit on cute guys in bars as part of her missionary work to heal all the troubled souls. Ana was sent from the heavens just to make Jack smile.

Ooh, i like the sound of that! A Nun With A Gun! That should be the title for her next flashback eppy. She's a nun with a gun with a little can of whoop-@$$ on the side! :D

Seriously, i will never be able to fathom how this character takes all the bashing it does when one can clearly look at the rest of the characters and cringe! Some of the arguments out there actually scare me more than the characters, themselves, because at least their fictional. If arguments, that contrived, can be concocted surrounding fictional characters i start rationalizing to myself is it any wonder we have innocent people sitting in prison???? Yikes!!!!! :eek:

The biggest line of crap that i'm completely fed up with is Ana taking all this heat over Shannen. It was an accident. If we are going to blame Ana for an accident and throw the label murderer at her feet let's just pass the blame all around. Let's blame Jack for giving Sawyer the Gun in Exodus! Let's blame Zeke and the rest of his gang for destroying the raft bringing Sawyer, Michael, and Jin to the other side of the island. Let's blame Sawyer for bringing the gun to the "tailies" side of the Island. See, if we want to be wise about we can say it's Jack, Zeke's, and Sawyer's fault for Shannen getting shot because if the gun was never brought to Ana's side of the island there would have been no gun to accidently shoot Shannen with to begin with! So there! :p lol

[ActionAimz]

How many times has Ana fired a gun on Lost? I can only recall one -- and that was shannon of course. The writers made that decision, they had their reasons. Lost is not interested in making characters "look good", they all have extreme flaws. So to make that the be all and end all of the character is such a crock when you consider how much damage other characters have done. So this talk of her only wanting guns and having to have guns and being hungry for guns becaue she is so trigger happy -- total make believe. There have been so many damn "we have to get guns" themes on Lost, that it just wears me out when people put all of that on Ana. As if everyone is all peace love and happiness except for Ana. Jack wore the damn key around his neck for a season and a half. I think he wanted control of the guns. He helped Kate open the case because there were guns inside that he didn't want Sawyer to have. Eko had to stop him from wanting to take guns to where Ana and Sayid were. Sawyer masterminded an elaborate con to get GUNS, and got Locke to help him because he didn't want Jack to get the guns. Kate wanted to take guns on her trek with Claire. And yet Ana is the evil one because she doesn't want to go into a situation unarmed. Sounds like a typical law enforcement official to me. It's the other characters that use guns to prop their egos or false sense of power.

[Leigh]

I have an Ana idea. This is based off of new spoilers. Ok, read on....and this is likely totally fiction on my part, but I thought it was a clever idea nonetheless:

Current spoilers claim that 2x19 features a well regarded physical therapist living in Australia named Isaac. People are speculating this could be an Ana flashback ep. IF it is....here's my crazy ass theory. I mentioned awhile back that perhaps the reason that Danny left was b/c Ana pushed him away....by having an affair. What if the affair was with this Isaac guy who was her physical therapist....how weird and interesting would that be? Now, the Jason/cop thing took place thee years before the flight according to producers.....so.....what if for some reason, so far some reason I can't come up with.....a few years later now she decided to go see him where he nows lives (Australia) perhaps b/c he invited her or b/c she had hopes of rekindling what they'd started years back....maybe she gets there and find out he's married or something....hence her looking to get some from Jack....she's like, screw this.....hey, he's hot....so she approaches him b/c she's down and looking to hookup and also this would explain her forwardness about asking if he's married. And hell, maybe this Isaac guy was actually married back when she was with Danny and they had the affair....maybe she didn't know it and finds it out 3 years later when she goes to visit him? I may be stretching I know, I just can't shake the feeling that Danny simply, "left"....Ana seems the kind to if she can't deal she drives people away b/c she feels she's "better off alone"....I just have this feeling that he left b/c she cheated....and now I find out we have an australia-living physical therapist coming up in an ep around when Ana was rumored to be having another flashback, and so you put the two together and bam!

OR, there was nothing between the two. Perhaps he's just an older nice guy and she's only visting him b/c she's having physical problems again....maybe she ran off to Sydney b/c she was experiencing some sort of physical pain/relapse...so she took off of work to go and try to work on it and met up with him....who knows....either way I still think Ana cheated and I still think this will be her flashback ep....and whether the two are connected in THAT WAY or not I don't know...I'm just tossing ideas out there.

Also, honestly I've often wondered if it would be revieled that Ana somehow still lives with a lot of physical pain. I think that would be cool/soften the perception of her....perhaps she deals day to day with excutiating physical pain and so she went back to her therapist to see if he could help her, now she's stuck on the island....would explain her harsh attitude....lol....

^
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Man, that's a lot of black. :D

[Gage]

^Leigh I like the last black paragraph lol, her in physical pain & all. I just can't make my self belive she cheated but still I like you ideas. I really hope she does have a flashback this season

[Leigh]

Yeah, I really like the pain bit....to me I think it would put a great dark spin....to know that Ana has been battle physical ramifications of her injuries....and that the whole time she's been on the island she's spent it hurting like hell. I don't know, I think that'd make her seem more human somehow....and make you feel bad for her....or heck maybe she went to see him b/c she was in pain THEN, but since being on the island she hasn't been (like Locke)....who knows. And I don't know....I still have a feeling about the cheating bit....:D

[Fish1941]

Considering her emotional state following the death of her unborn child, I really cannot see Ana-Lucia cheating on Danny. I think that he had simply left her.

[Gage]

^I agree I think Danny just left her. Maybe because of the baby or something but I have thought he left her & still do.

[ActionAimz]

Was Ana married to Danny? I noticed in Collision flashbacks that she has a ring on her left hand. That could be your average ring, but I have never seen speculation to whether or not they were actually married.

Leigh, I like the pain theory alot. It also would be cool if Ana suffered a spinal injury from the gunshots. Maybe she recovered but relapses. It would give her something in common with Locke and even Jack.

[Gage]

^I don't know if Ana was married to Danny but if so that would give her & Jack something in common :D. Then maybe Danny left her like Jack's wife left him, that would make something else in common. Jana :lotsalove

[ActionAimz]

^I don't know if Ana was married to Danny but if so that would give her & Jack something in common :D. Then maybe Danny left her like Jack's wife left him, that would make something else in common. Jana :lotsalove


Ana a cop like her mom. Jack a doc like his dad. Both of them had loser spouses who left them. Ahhh, love it :D :D :D

[Grhmlz]

:) Leigh, i like your theories alot. See, i don't think she cheated but that doesn't mean that your guess about it is wrong. Anything is possible with this show. And your first theory actually makes it believable for me! LOL

Personally, i guess i'm just hoping the writers don't go there because i'm really not looking forward to "slut" joining the long list of barbaric names that haters have already thrown at this character (*rolls eyes*). I'm just so sick of all the backlash. As it is, when Ana doesn't do anything wrong or does something right it's still turned into the ultimate evil!!!

But i like the idea of Ana having the after effects of pain as a result of the shooting and maybe that's why she was traveling to Australia to see the Physical therapist? It would make perfect sense if this does turn out to be Ana's episode!

[iorwen]

Maybe Jack's wife cheated on him with Ana's Danny? Is that too much of a stretch? Still it could bond them even further. I don't seem to recall Sarah telling Jack who she was seeing, do you?

[Fish1941]

I just came away from a thread in which people wanted to start some club bashing Jack for crying a lot. After reading it, I now understand why so many don't like Ana-Lucia.

A tearful Jack doesn't adhere to society's views on how a man - especially one who is supposed to be a leader.:rolleyes: - behaves. And Ana-Lucia does not adhere to how a woman - whether she is strong or not - is supposed to behave. Which would account for all of the complaints about her ruthlessness and her "butch" behavior.

People keep claiming that today's humans (at least in this country) are above such prejudices and cliched views about how social backgrounds should affect our behavior. And yet, they still cling to old-fashioned views on how we're all supposed to behave, depending on our social background - in regard to race, nationality . . . and gender. Because Jack is a man, he should not be shown as being emotional and prone to tears. Because Ana-Lucia is a woman, she has no right being so ruthless, strong-willed and most importantly, a leader. She does not behave like a woman is supposed to.

I'm sure that many Ana-Lucia bashers will deny this and think up other reasons to dislike her. However, when they resume bashing her character on a regular basis, I'm certain that Ana's ruthless nature will be the main reason for their rants against her.

[ActionAimz]

I agree Fish. Someone said yesterday that Ana represents too much of what's in society today, whatever that means, it wasn't worth my time to ask. But the typical battle cry of the haters is that she is curt and displays too many masculine qualities. I can understand why that wouldn't endear everyone to her, but to relate Ana to a larger societal problem is pretty deep and disturbing. There are so many ways to read between the lines of people are saying, and you are spot on with your assessment. I notice that you are starting to call people on it, and I appreciate that.

Kate is a ruthless character, but she is played by an actress who is the epitome of the pretty girl next door in looks and mannerisms, and ethnicity. She always looks like she has her own personal stylist somewhere on the island. So therefore she is more acceptable to the masses, because she poses no threat to how they want to view the world.

Michelle purposely puts that out there (to quote Matt Fox), and she is proud of it. If someone says she's too butch, I doubt it would bother her as much as someone saying she's too girly. Playing the weak damsel in distress is not her thing, and she has very valid reasons behind her convictions. She knows that going about it this way makes success harder to come by, yet people claim that this "stereotype" has been her ticket to fame. Whatever. At the end of the day Michelle is one of the actresses leading the way in redefining how females are typically portrayed. And bottom line, Michelle is gorgeous and just exudes beauty and strength. Lost chose her for this role for a reason, because she does represent what many people admire and identify with.

I love that Matt Fox is an actor that portrays emotion so well. He does the full range, and you just feel it -- Jack's anger, sadness, happiness. It endears me to him and the character. It just kills me when he gets choked up. It helps me to see beneath the surface and get a better understanding of Jack, and really believe that he is deeply affected by things going on around him despite the initial cold exterior. Again that's his acting choice, and I think it's the right one given the character's history of being forced to repress his feelings. To see his emotions come out in the form of real tears, just makes Matt and Jack all the more sexy to me.

Lost is such a great show because they take chances by giving us an interesting cross-section of the world we live in. By doing that, they undoubtly will bring prejudices to the surface, and I sure they expected that to happen. If people want to see cookie cutter characters who fit perfectly in what they define as "right", then they are clearly watching the wrong show.

[Leigh]

*applauds Fish and Aimz*

Anyway....I'm going through MASSIVE Ana withdrawls.

It's been a WHOLE MONTH since we've seen any new Ana stuff....and that was just for ep 2x15 where she had three lines in a 40 second scene. The last time we saw Ana have a REAL scene with real purpose was back on Febuary 8th and THAT was only for 3 scenes with a combined total of just under 2 minutes of screen time....as have all of her appearances been since FRIGGIN COLLISION which aired way ass back in FRIGGIN NOVEMBER! Think about it, we haven't had more than a minute or two of Michelle on Lost in 4 WHOLE MONTHS.

Seeing MR on talk shows has sort of gotten me through, and yeah if she wasn't on Lost I'd only be seeing her in a new movie once a year, so I'm thankful and all, but man....you get used to seeing someone nearly every week and then you don't....you start to go a bit stir-crazy. From 2x03 to 2x08....that was like Michelle Michelle Michelle....and since it has been more like where's Michelle? where's Michelle? where's Michelle? :D

L.

[Yariene]

Why are we not talking about Ana? Did she not rocked yesterday?

[ActionAimz]

I KNOW YARIENE. ANA IS AMAZING!!!!

Okay thoughts and opinions...

Why did Ana go to Sayid for help over Jack and/or Locke?

Why was Ana sprinting, not jogging, but sprinting like mad?

Was Ana deeply hurt by Jack keeping her out of the loop?

Do you think she respects Sayid than Jack more at this point? She is ready to back him if they don't find the balloon.

Did she not look so cute and stunning?

Why do you think it's has always been hard for Ana to get people to like her?

Discuss away. Let's keep spreading the Ana love, because it's too good right now to be true. :eek: :D

[tnhand1022]

Why did Ana go to Sayid for help over Jack and/or Locke?

She hit the nail on the head - Jack and Locke are too worried about Locke and Jack to make any kind of valuable contribution right now. Plus they needed to stay and guard Henry (and the secret of Henry).



Why was Ana sprinting, not jogging, but sprinting like mad?

The devil was chasing her - weren't you listening? ;)



Was Ana deeply hurt by Jack keeping her out of the loop?

If she is, we'll probably never know. But I'd imagine that, plus him accusing her of attacking Sun, is drastically changing their dynamic.



Do you think she respects Sayid than Jack more at this point? She is ready to back him if they don't find the balloon.

I don't know that it's a matter of respect, just a matter of what needs to be done, and there's no room for Jack's deontological ethics in this situation.



Did she not look so cute and stunning?

Um, yeah! And she made me realize, once again, that I need to hit the gym! After MR made that comment about being on steroids, I really noticed how puffy her face had looked. But in this ep she seemed to be back to her normal self.



Why do you think it's has always been hard for Ana to get people to like her?

That's a whole can of worms...

[ActionAimz]

[QUOTE]She hit the nail on the head - Jack and Locke are too worried about Locke and Jack to make any kind of valuable contribution right now. Plus they needed to stay and guard Henry (and the secret of Henry)

Yup she did.


The devil was chasing her - weren't you listening? ;)
That's what Locke said.


If she is, we'll probably never know. But I'd imagine that, plus him accusing her of attacking Sun, is drastically changing their dynamic.
Michelle played it "hurt" I think she got over it. But I think the initial revelation hit her in the gut.

I don't know that it's a matter of respect, just a matter of what needs to be done, and there's no room for Jack's deontological ethics in this situation.
Right there. She took note of how Sayid beat the crap out of him and concluded that Sayid was not about playing games, just getting to the truth as quickly as possible

Um, yeah! And she made me realize, once again, that I need to hit the gym! After MR made that comment about being on steroids, I really noticed how puffy her face had looked. But in this ep she seemed to be back to her normal self.
Yes, the gym. I agree, she still has a cute round face, but not puffed out. She looked great, very fit and healthy.


That's a whole can of worms...
Go ahead and open them.

[Shelly]

I love Ana :w00t: I liked her all a long, but now I love her even more after last nights episode. She rocks! :) I loved when she was talking to sayid by the fire, and said that no one liked her, and that she tryed to get people to like her all of her life and she just gave up.. and then she appologized to Sayid. (wow, long sentence) It was very touching.

[x.Steph.x]

a new love for sayid maybe lol :giggle:

[tnhand1022]

That's what Locke said.

Then Ana said, "Maybe he was." :giggle:

By the way, isn't that what Desmond said to Jack in his flashback?


Michelle played it "hurt" I think she got over it. But I think the initial revelation hit her in the gut.

Ana plays everything so close to the vest that it takes me a couple of viewings to feel like I have a grasp on every nuance. Until I can rewatch, I feel like I'm not playing with a full sack, so I'm not opening any cans of worms just yet!

[ActionAimz]

Then Ana said, "Maybe he was." :giggle:

By the way, isn't that what Desmond said to Jack in his flashback?




Ana plays everything so close to the vest that it takes me a couple of viewings to feel like I have a grasp on every nuance. Until I can rewatch, I feel like I'm not playing with a full sack, so I'm not opening any cans of worms just yet!

Oh MAN! Well hurry up and rewatch, because you are disappointing me here. LOL.

Well it was another AOL that I watched over and over before seeing the actual show. Ana's expression fell when Locke told her they had had Henry down there for three days. Like oh, that's three days Jack had to tell me, but he didn't.

I don't remember if crazy Desmond said that. He made comments about Jack self-flaggelating with the sprinting. So there I have it. Answered my own question. Another reason why Jana is meant to be. LOL.

[Mettanna]

I was lovin' her last night- she was great. I loved it when she apologized to Sayid, and when she was questioning Henry... she was great. And she really did look very pretty during this episode. I mean, she's always pretty, but she was like...REALLY pretty. I really liked this episode.

[tnhand1022]

Oh MAN! Well hurry up and rewatch, because you are disappointing me here.

Pushy! ;)



Ana's expression fell when Locke told her they had had Henry down there for three days. Like oh, that's three days Jack had to tell me, but he didn't.

Riddle me this: Ana said to Locke that she's been in their camp for a week. And if Henry's been in the hatch for three days, then Collision through One of Them spanned only four days. Um, huh? Fire + Water spanned at least two days, so have the episodes been overlapping?


I don't remember if crazy Desmond said that. He made comments about Jack self-flaggelating with the sprinting. So there I have it. Answered my own question. Another reason why Jana is meant to be. LOL.

Here's the official word from a transcript site. The following exchange took place between Jack and Desmond during Jack's stair-running flashback in Man of Science, Man of Faith:

DESMOND: So what's your excuse?
JACK: Excuse?
DESMOND: To run like the devil's chasing you.

Hmmm...

[La Mer]

Ana was awesome last night! From beginning to end everything she did and said was so cool. I loved her interrogation of Henry, and how she took the initiative to go out and look for the balloon because “Jack and Locke are a little too busy worrying about Locke and Jack” so true! lol And I especially loved her interaction with Sayid; that she apologized to him and he understands that it was an accident; that the blame for what happened to Shannon should be placed on the others for putting Ana’s people in danger. It seemed they had a real connection there. And I also really liked that she showed a softer more vulnerable side, but was still tough. It’s interesting to watch some of the rapid haters on this board actually begin to warm up to her. With each episode that passes I love her more and more and she’s quickly becoming one of my very favorites. And Michelle was fantastic!

[ActionAimz]

{QUOTE]Pushy! ;)[/QUOTE]
Who Me. :giggle:
:rolleyes:




Riddle me this: Ana said to Locke that she's been in their camp for a week. And if Henry's been in the hatch for three days, then Collision through One of Them spanned only four days. Um, huh? Fire + Water spanned at least two days, so have the episodes been overlapping?
I haven't the foggiest. I was surprised she said it had been a week. Talk about slowing things down.



Here's the official word from a transcript site. The following exchange took place between Jack and Desmond during Jack's stair-running flashback in Man of Science, Man of Faith:

DESMOND: So what's your excuse?
JACK: Excuse?
DESMOND: To run like the devil's chasing you.

Hmmm, indeed. :rolleyes: Hey where is Desmond. Miss him. I say Jack and Ana sprint off into the sunset together.


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Ana was awesome last night! From beginning to end everything she did and said was so cool. I loved her interrogation of Henry, and how she took the initiative to go out and look for the balloon because “Jack and Locke are a little too busy worrying about Locke and Jack” so true! lol And I especially loved her interaction with Sayid; that she apologized to him and he understands that it was an accident; that the blame for what happened to Shannon should be placed on the others for putting Ana’s people in danger. It seemed they had a real connection there. And I also really liked that she showed a softer more vulnerable side, but was still tough. It’s interesting to watch some of the rapid haters on this board actually begin to warm up to her. With each episode that passes I love her more and more and she’s quickly becoming one of my very favorites. And Michelle was fantastic!

I liked that Sayid refered to the Tailies as "your people", because Ana did take ownership of protecting everyone. They would have flounderedd horribly without her, yet she gets no credit for that whatsoever. I too love to see the haters come around. I give Lost total credit for that -- good writing.

Michelle was awesome last night. She has shown great range, and I just felt for Ana. I know I am biased, but I am still new to Michelle's acting. I was very impressed with her last night.

[Grhmlz]

lol Well, i said most of what i had to say about the episode on the Jana thread; therefore, i won't repeat it all again except to say Ana rocked. I loved all of her scenes. Michelle did a great job!!

I liked that Sayid refered to the Tailies as "your people", because Ana did take ownership of protecting everyone. They would have flounderedd horribly without her, yet she gets no credit for that whatsoever. I too love to see the haters come around. I give Lost total credit for that -- good writing.

:nod: Oh, i so agree. And Out of All the People there, this acknowledgment/recognition comes from Sayid!!! How ironic, huh? I, too, was a bit miffed by the fact it was being ignored/underplayed that Ana had led her group and took responsibility for their survival for most of their time spent on that forsaken island.

[tnhand1022]

ActionAimz, ask and ye shall receive! I've rewatched all the Ana-bits in The Whole Truth, and I'm ready to go!

First of all, here's what I learned about Ana in this episode: she has a terrible poker face, for all of two seconds. She'll have a facial expression when she reacts to something, but then she wipes the look off her face almost immediately. So I had to watch each of her scenes a couple of times before I felt I had any clue of what she was feeling, and even now, I'm not 100% sure if I read it correctly. Two seconds isn't much time to perform a detailed psychoanalysis!



Was Ana deeply hurt by Jack keeping her out of the loop?

Yes, I think she was. You're right that she took Locke's revelation that Henry'd been in the hatch for three days like a punch to the gut. She had a very distinct reaction to the news (for about two seconds). She also reacted when Henry told her that Eko had been to see him. The two people on the island who she's closest to, who've seen her soft(er) underbelly, have been keeping this huge secret. Ouch. It probably cut to the bone with Eko, because he knows how desperately she wants to find the kids. I wonder if this isn't part of what compelled her to go to Sayid, the only person on the island whom she's confided in. And I also wonder if her relationship with Jack and Eko was further damaged by proxy, because Sayid trusted her and the information that she presented.

Anyway, back to Jack. The interaction between him and Ana in the hatch was very interesting. She was certainly surprised when he opened the door to the armory, but then it was gone. She just kind of breezed past him, and got down to business. The most telling bit was when she said to Jack, "If that's okay with you." There was so much going on underneath that one simple line of dialogue. Ana basically told him that she knew she'd been demoted out of being his confidante. Surprisingly enough, Jack picked up on this subtelty (maybe all his paranoia is making him less dense), and tried to defend his actions by letting her know that he didn't tell anyone. Ana's response was kind of indifferent, like she was accepting this as the new status quo in their relationship. And I think Jack may have actually picked up on that, too, given the look on his face as he watched Ana leave the hatch, like he knew that he Smurfed up.




Why do you think it's has always been hard for Ana to get people to like her?

Okay. New can of worms.

It's fairly common knowledge (if you own the S1 DVDs) that the original casting process for the show was unconventional. The cast was chosen for bits of their personalities, and in some cases, parts were created for the actor. Cast members have stated in interviews that their characters very much resemble their own personalities. Because Ana Lucia was originally pitched as a woman in her forties, I can only assume that the decision to cast MR was based, at least in part, on her own personality. And as much as I hate the stereotype, "tough girl" is the only way I can think to describe what the producers saw in Michelle and wanted to translate into the character. That, coupled with what precious little we know about the character's past as a cop, leads me to believe that Ana has always been a "tough girl".

Because her mother is a cop as well, I think it's reasonable to assume that a lot of the typical gender roles weren't forced on Ana in her upbringing. I doubt that her mother was yelling at her to not get dirty or skin her knees when she was a child, so she was probably very rough-and-tumble, because all kids are until you tell them to stop. She probably didn't realize that most girls are taught not to act this way until she hit school. I'd imagine that school was particularly difficult, both being a "tough girl", and having a mother who was a cop.

Ana probably grew up as an outsider who found it difficult to make and keep friends. She probably spent a lot of time trying to get people to like her, working to get them to see past the exterior, to convince them that she was more than just "the tough girl". Any friends that she did make were probably tested in the whole popularity contest of public schools, so she probably lost some due to peer pressure. I'd also imagine that she got scrappy more than a few times, either in defending her mother or herself against ridicule.

Choosing a career as a cop was partially due to following in her mother's footsteps, but it also satisfied her psychological needs, which may only have been present on a subconscious level. Ana chose a career that fulfilled her desire to protect others against what she went through as a child. It also commanded the respect from her peers that she never received growing up. Unfortunately, it probably put her right back in the position of trying to get people to like her. I've heard horror stories about the brutal hazing that female officers have to deal with, and being the boss' daughter was another strike against her. Making friends on the force was probably a difficult, uphill battle.

For all of these reasons, I can understand what Ana meant when she said that she tried to get people to like her for most of her life. I can also infer that she gave up on it right about the time that she was shot and lost her baby. Ana most likely blames herself, because she commited an error in judgment that led to her being shot. It's difficult to convince people to like you when you hate yourself.

Okay, now I'm exhausted. That required a lot of thinking. Never ask a psych major to perform character analysis!

[Mettanna]

Was Ana deeply hurt by Jack keeping her out of the loop?

I agree with Hand. She was quite hurt, I think. I re-watched the Ana scenes too...and thus are my findings. I'm afraid it's not quite as nicely written as tnhand's post, but...

At first,when Locke said that Jack had been down there for three days she was a little hurt...and then after interogating Henry, Jack said that he'"Didn't tell anyone," so I think she kind of understood why he didn't tell her, but maybe was still a bit hurt about the lack of trust he seems to have in her.

But THEN she goes to Sayid and Charlie, and Charlie's just like,"Oh, you mean the guy down in the hatch?" in a "Oh DUH, everyone knows about that," kind of tone. She seemed pretty suprised when he said that, so I think then she was kind of feeling like everyone knew but her.

So all in all, I'm thinkin' she's not to happy with Jack. And, myself being somewhat Anti-Jana (sorry Janateers), I can't say that I'm really broken up about it...

I love your theory on why Ana hasn't been liked throughout her life, tnhand. Good post. :)

You know, I'd really like some more Ana/Eko scenes. Because while I might have signed the Sayana-ers list yesterday, that doesn't mean that I don't also love Ana and Eko together. I am not exactly a rabid romantic shipper of either one, Aneko or Sayana. But I think that in both cases they make a great team, and that their relationship is quite utterly fascinating to me, and that eventually (I'm not looking for any instant romantic hookups.) I can see them being a really nice ship. I really wa slikin' Sayid and Ana as a team on Wednesday. It was really nice. I just love,love,love that Sayid UNDERSTANDS. I think he gets Ana more than anyone else...it's pretty cool. I thought they worked extremely well together, and I realy can't wait for more of it next week....:D

[ActionAimz]

:bounce: YEA!!!!!!!\
There are photos up of Ana at the airport for SOS episode

http://abcmedianet.com/ph_search/search_lv.htm?prog_num=001648&leftcol=links

[Mettanna]

:w00t: Oooh. I wonder if we get to hear more of that phone call. Huh. The fact that she's wearing a white shirt there is blatantly obvious...but when the plane crashes she's wearing the black shirt. What's up with that?

Oh yeah, I just remembered- when I was re-watching the scenes from The Whole Truth, this slogan for the Ana Lovers popped into my head. It's really dumb, but I thught I'd share anyway.

Ana-Lucia: Maybe people don't like her... but we Higher Beings do.

[ActionAimz]

[QUOTE=Mettanna]:w00t: Oooh. I wonder if we get to hear more of that phone call. Huh. The fact that she's wearing a white shirt there is blatantly obvious...but when the plane crashes she's wearing the black shirt. What's up with that?

She lost the shirt in the utility closet. Jack ripped it off her during hot sex. Tee Hee
No she was likely wearing that black tank under her shirt. It pretty much serves as her bra - poor thing.

[so-jealous]

She lost the shirt in the utility closet. Jack ripped it off her during hot sex. Tee Hee

:thud:

[Yariene]

I'm not liking this at all. Why is her picture on the Rose & Bernard ep? I'm going to be very pissed off if she doesn't have another ep. And even more pissed off if Kate gets another one.

[tnhand1022]

But THEN she goes to Sayid and Charlie, and Charlie's just like,"Oh, you mean the guy down in the hatch?" in a "Oh DUH, everyone knows about that," kind of tone. She seemed pretty suprised when he said that, so I think then she was kind of feeling like everyone knew but her.

That's right, I didn't even think about that. What's with Charlie in this ep anyway? He's decided to embrace his inner di*khead, now that he's an outcast?




I love your theory on why Ana hasn't been liked throughout her life, tnhand. Good post. :)

Thanks! Good to know I didn't waste all that company time and money for nothing... ;)



You know, I'd really like some more Ana/Eko scenes.

How about some scenes of any of the Tailies talking to each other? Did they all forget that they know each other or what?

[ActionAimz]

Thanks for the analysis tnhand.:sweat: Since you are online today, I'll respond.

Especially liked your analysis of her childhood, lack of defined gender roles, what she went through in becoming a cop. That is something I think people fail to realize. That she had to toughen up if not in her childhood, but as a female in a male dominated profession where she most likely was subjected to hazing and/or was never really taken seriously because of her size, her beauty, and the fact that her Mom was high ranking in the force. All of that would make a person wear a tough exterior until it all but becomes them.

I am still not convinced that she was always a tough girl to the point where she wasn't liked. I mean she could have had a whole posse in high school because of the intimidation factor. Tough girls aren't usually automatically shunned, unless she was a tomboy to the extreme. And even then, she would hang out with boys. Hopefully Lost will give us some answers before Ana dies or whatever they plan on doing with her. :bites nails:

Speaking of Lost casting based on personalities of the actors, I am sure you have read stories of Michelle's upbringing, being forced to wear dresses to school daily by her strict Jahovah's Witness Granmother, and as a result being taunted and forced to fight the boys every single day. That would turn someone into a rebellous badass.

If that's okay with you." There was so much going on underneath that one simple line of dialogue. Ana basically told him that she knew she'd been demoted out of being his confidante. Surprisingly enough, Jack picked up on this subtelty (maybe all his paranoia is making him less dense), and tried to defend his actions by letting her know that he didn't tell anyone. Ana's response was kind of indifferent, like she was accepting this as the new status quo in their relationship. And I think Jack may have actually picked up on that, too, given the look on his face as he watched Ana leave the hatch, like he knew that he Smurfed up.

Yes that was a loaded line right there. Spot on about Jack. He f'd up and he knows it, and he was studying her, trying to read her or get more out of her to see just how badly he f'd up. He really didn't need to defend his actions, because she didn't accuse him of any wrong doing, so that was all guilt talking IMO. He knows he was wrong. I think Ana is letting things be what they will be. She is not going to force herself on Jack, because quite frankly she doesn't need to. She has Locke's respect. And she was able to get Sayid to join her. I hope Ana doesn't entirely let him off the hook though, but I like that she's playing it cool with him, especially with Locke in the room sizing up the whole situation.

"Demoted as his confidante" Jack has a habit of doing that to people doesn't he.


Mettanna Eko has all but disappeared, along with Libby. I suppose they want the Tailies fully integrated with the original casts. There have been complaints about that. But I personally find Eko and Ana infinitely more interesting than any of the originals.

That said, I am not sure how close Ana and Eko are right now, because we don't ever see them interract. Maybe they just have gone their separate ways. I would absolutely love to see an Ana Libby friendship though.

After learning half the island knows about Henry, Ana is probably just chalking it up to a lesson learned -- don't take anything for granted. She moved on quickly and did what needed to be done. That's what I love about her.

No Worries Man.

[tnhand1022]

Thanks for the analysis tnhand.:sweat: Since you are online today, I'll respond.

:o You're such a goofball!



Tough girls aren't usually automatically shunned, unless she was a tomboy to the extreme. And even then, she would hang out with boys.

I guess you had all the nice people at your school, because I got stuck with the assholes who called all the tough girls dykes. I wasn't a tomboy or anything, just fiercely independent, and I got that all the time, from grade school on up until graduation.


Side Note - how come I get :censored: if I type sh*t, but not dyke? Does that seem right to you?



Speaking of Lost casting based on personalities of the actors, I am sure you have read stories of Michelle's upbringing, being forced to wear dresses to school daily by her strict Jahovah's Witness Granmother, and as a result being taunted and forced to fight the boys every single day. That would turn someone into a rebellous badass.

I may or may not have a giant Word document of MR articles... So yeah, I think I heard something about her upbringing. ;) My step-dad is a minister, so I can relate to what she went through. Suppression of any kind doesn't usually lead to hugs and puppies.



Eko has all but disappeared, along with Libby. I suppose they want the Tailies fully integrated with the original casts. There have been complaints about that. <snip> That said, I am not sure how close Ana and Eko are right now, because we don't ever see them interract. Maybe they just have gone their separate ways.

I wonder if there's something to the lack of interaction amongst the Tailies. Maybe they're all in the process of sublimating, and acknowledging each other would just reopen those wounds.

[ActionAimz]

I didn't mean to type your name quite that big, but that just makes you extra special. ;)

I got picked on for everything in High School, so I can't really say. I just know the tough girls had their place. Dyke has more than one meaning so you'll get away with it for awhile. I am sure if I stumbled into an Ana-Lucia thread, I would see that word used in abundance along with butch.

If anything I want the Tailies to throw Ana-Lucia a big thank you pig roast party for what she did to keep them all alive. Rose should be the first to give her a big ole hug.

[hinemoa]

Awwww, can I have my name that big too?? I burst out laughing when I saw that!

anyway love the discussion and the analysis of Ana! I feel so bad for her right now. The two people she thought she could trust and would trust her in return have effectively told her she in not to be trusted. She's an outsider. I know fully understand why she went to Sayid. I think it's to in some way get back at Jack for not trusting her. Or her way of saying she doesn't need him either. Or perhaps she's trying to prove that she's usefull.

[ActionAimz]

Awwww, can I have my name that big too?? I burst out laughing when I saw that!

anyway love the discussion and the analysis of Ana! I feel so bad for her right now. The two people she thought she could trust and would trust her in return have effectively told her she in not to be trusted. She's an outsider. I know fully understand why she went to Sayid. I think it's to in some way get back at Jack for not trusting her. Or her way of saying she doesn't need him either. Or perhaps she's trying to prove that she's usefull.

hinemoa

There you are. LOL. I think Ana has always felt like an outsider so essentially she's thinking "here we go again." I also think she desperately wants to mend fences with Sayid and she respects him a great deal as a no nonsense kind of guy so she asked him. What she said about Jack and Locke is true, they are too worried about Locke and Jack to really get down to business. She was smart to avoid getting in the middle of their pissing contest.

[Gage]

Yeh!!!!! :boogie: :w00t: so glad were going to get to see Ana at the airport. Hope we find out who she was on the phone with & why she was in Austraila. But this ep looks more like a Benard & Rose ep :mad:. Ana better get another ep this season or I'll go crazy if she doesn't. But I'm very happy were going to see her at the airport. :w00t:

[hinemoa]

^^ I'm trying to be really happy about that too. But I'm going to be super pissed if rose and bernard are getting there own ep. and Ana we get two seconds of in the background somewhere. Rose and Bernard are great but I don't really care why they were in Australia. I'd rather see main characters.....ok I'd rather see Ana get another ep. all to herself.

lol!! Thanks for making my name big Aims!

[Mettanna]

On the subject of Tailie-to-Tailie inteaction...well, it kind of made some sense to me that she hadn't spoken to Libby, or Bernard because they did just kind of walk away from her. It'd be kind of awkward, don't you think?

But with Eko...I just don't understand. I loved their scenes together, and I thought they worked so well together (Would Ana,Eko,and Sayid all working together not be the best thing ever? Am I wrong? THAT is what I'd like to see.) I dunno. Maybe soon they'll have a scene together? Any scene together? That'd be really cool.

On a nother note...while I have always liked Rose, I thought Bernard was just a tiny bit useless, and I have to agree that I would not be very interested in an episode about them. But, then again, who knows?It could be cool.

There you are. LOL. I think Ana has always felt like an outsider so essentially she's thinking "here we go again." I also think she desperately wants to mend fences with Sayid and she respects him a great deal as a no nonsense kind of guy so she asked him. What she said about Jack and Locke is true, they are too worried about Locke and Jack to really get down to business. She was smart to avoid getting in the middle of their pissing contest.


*nods in agreement* I also think that it kind of blows Ana's mind that Sayid doesn't completely detest her. I don't think that she would blame him at all if he did. And I agree that she sees that he is an extremely competent individual...which I think he also sees in her, in spite of it all.

Hopefully Lost will give us some answers before Ana dies or whatever they plan on doing with her. :bites nails:

I know...I'm so nervous. I think it goes without syaing taht we'd all be devestated if anything happens to Ana. Especially if it happens before we've learned all we hope to about her. I'm actually quite worried for Ana's safety right now...

[Grhmlz]

^Yeah, i'm showing signs of worry myself when i take into account there's hardly any new Ana spoilers out there, little hope of another flashback, and they are pushing the dreaded triangle forward full blast once again!

Okay, now didn't one of the writers say, not too long ago, we would find out the reason Ana was in Australia by the end of this season? Because that better not be thrown into some 3 minute scene for a Rose/Bernard eppy! I'd be Livid!!!!! It would seem to me that to present a decent explanation she would need another flashback!

[tnhand1022]

On the subject of Tailie-to-Tailie inteaction...well, it kind of made some sense to me that she hadn't spoken to Libby, or Bernard because they did just kind of walk away from her. It'd be kind of awkward, don't you think?

I see your point. But given that Ana admitted to Henry that she'd made a mistake when she put Nathan in the pit, and her later apology to Sayid, I think she might also see the error in the way she treated Bernard & Libby on day 48. But you'd think they might have something to say to Ana, especially Bernard. Maybe "Thanks for talking me out of that tree and keeping me alive for 48 days so I could reunite with my wife." Something along those lines.




But with Eko...I just don't understand. I loved their scenes together, and I thought they worked so well together...

Grr! The Other 48 Days is the only epi I don't have on tape, so I can't rewatch their scenes together! You'd think he'd be trying to counsel or comfort her in some way. He's a priest, and he has a connection with her. But I guess he's too busy with the trees. WTF is up with those trees anyway?




I also think that it kind of blows Ana's mind that Sayid doesn't completely detest her.

Excellent point. Probably because Ana couldn't see herself reacting in any other way were she in Sayid's shoes. Maybe she has all the more respect for him because of that.


I know...I'm so nervous. I think it goes without syaing taht we'd all be devestated if anything happens to Ana.

*fingers in ears* La-la-la, I'm not listening... Too busy picturing Ana five seasons from now (four months island time), running out to greet the rescue boat... ;)

[Mettanna]

^ That's an excellent mental image. Thank you.

[tnhand1022]

^ That's an excellent mental image. Thank you.

:) That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

[iorwen]

*fingers in ears* La-la-la, I'm not listening... Too busy picturing Ana five seasons from now (four months island time), running out to greet the rescue boat... ;)
Don't forget to mention she's running to the rescue boat with Jack in hand!
Ahh a girl can dream!

[tnhand1022]

Don't forget to mention she's running to the rescue boat with Jack in hand!

Not if he keeps pushing her away! Ana doesn't strike me as the type who puts up with that kind of sh*t for too long.

Also, the more paranoid and isolated Jack gets, the less I see anything going on with him and Ana. He seems to be moving steadily toward the headspace she occupied in Collision, and I don't think she's particularly eager to go back there.

[charmedlfreak]

Collision airs in Australia in less than 5 hours, I'm so excited.

I viewed a clip for The Whole Truth, and shes growing on me already, even though I actually only viewed some preview clips for an episode 10 weeks in advance, I think I might like her more now.

Maybe the flashback tonight will confirm it for me, though I kinda still feel bad for Shannon.

[ActionAimz]

Collision airs in Australia in less than 5 hours, I'm so excited.

I viewed a clip for The Whole Truth, and shes growing on me already, even though I actually only viewed some preview clips for an episode 10 weeks in advance, I think I might like her more now.

Maybe the flashback tonight will confirm it for me, though I kinda still feel bad for Shannon.
I always liked Ana, but Collision just took me over the edge into total fandom. It was a very very intense episode, great flashbacks -- you learn so much about Ana. Great acting from Michelle, Naveen and Matt, and the ending was just wow. Enjoy!!!!!!


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I AM NERVOUS ABC has taken down the photos of Ana at the airport, what gives. :shock:

[tnhand1022]

I AM NERVOUS ABC has taken down the photos of Ana at the airport, what gives. :shock:

Ack! WTF? I already have rumblies in my tumbly because of today's court date. :worry:

[hinemoa]

It's prolly just spoiler material that they don't want anyone to see yet. They've removed other pictures before. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.

[ActionAimz]

It's prolly just spoiler material that they don't want anyone to see yet. They've removed other pictures before. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.
Thanks!!!

[Mettanna]

Court date's been postponed until April 25th....Ana's safe for at least another month.

I always liked Ana, but Collision just took me over the edge into total fandom. It was a very very intense episode, great flashbacks -- you learn so much about Ana. Great acting from Michelle, Naveen and Matt, and the ending was just wow. Enjoy!!!!!!

Me too. Collision is definetly one of my favorite Season 2 episodes. It's so SAD though...mostly I feel bad for Ana and Sayid though, because, it didn't really bother me that Shannon died (I didn't hate her, but I didn't like her either.) but I felt so, so bad for Sayid and Ana.

Ana is definetely a character that I have an enormous amount of empathy for... I always just feel so bad for her. I want to hug her. Not that my fanship of her is purely based in pity. She's also an extremely interesting character, with a heck of a lotta depth. She is fun to analyze. Plus, you know, she's just freakin' awesome in general.

I hope there's more Ana next week. It looks like she may be having problems with Sayid's Dealing-with-Henry Methods...interesting.

[pips24]

If i don't see a Ana episode very soon I'm gonna kill someone:mad:

[Fish1941]

Court date's been postponed until April 25th....Ana's safe for at least another month.



Me too. Collision is definetly one of my favorite Season 2 episodes. It's so SAD though...mostly I feel bad for Ana and Sayid though, because, it didn't really bother me that Shannon died (I didn't hate her, but I didn't like her either.) but I felt so, so bad for Sayid and Ana.

Ana is definetely a character that I have an enormous amount of empathy for... I always just feel so bad for her. I want to hug her. Not that my fanship of her is purely based in pity. She's also an extremely interesting character, with a heck of a lotta depth. She is fun to analyze. Plus, you know, she's just freakin' awesome in general.

I hope there's more Ana next week. It looks like she may be having problems with Sayid's Dealing-with-Henry Methods...interesting.


It will probably be very brief, as her scenes in "Lockdown" were.

[Mettanna]

^ Yeah....but maybe we'll get lucky. *is hopeful*

[Gage]

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Ever since she first appeared I have loved her :).

[FloatingOnACloud]

W00t!! Another Ana Thread!!! :w00t:
I am so joinin'

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[ActionAimz]

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25. Lady Voldything
26. Missing
27. buffyfan145
28. donald99
29. shoe
30. hinemoa
31. Lost One (Hillary)
32. nsmith12916 (Nicholas)
33. Castaway#005
34. Rendezvous
35. Wootty
36. nono31
37. xfatex (Laura)
38. Mirir
39. Shelly
40. xlostxjoeyx
41. tailee
42. Gage (Rachel)
43. FloatingOnACloud
44. ActionAimz

[pips24]

Nothing new, i just don't want the Ana haters to win:D

[ActionAimz]

Nothing new, i just don't want the Ana haters to win:D

Good deal. Why should the haters have more to talk about than her fans.

Looking forward to more Ana tonight, talking Sayid down from killing Henry. Looks intense. Hopefully she'll get more than three lines this week.

[Gage]

Good deal. Why should the haters have more to talk about than her fans.
Hopefully the haters will evenchally get tired of saying the same usless thing over & over again :giggle:.

Looking forward to more Ana tonight, talking Sayid down from killing Henry. Looks intense. Hopefully she'll get more than three lines this week.

She better have more lines! Looking forward to more Ana & Sayid scenes tonight :D.

[Scarlett]

*comes in peace*

Ok, I never thought I'd say this, but I actually...liked...AL in this episode. Not just because she stopped the psycho Sayid from killing Henry, but because her "Sorry, that's not on the program" comment cracked me up. And her calmness was a nice change from Sayid's flipping out and Locke's usual craziness.

So, she's definitely the one I'd trust the most in that hatch right now! :shifty:

[Gage]

*comes in peace*

Ok, I never thought I'd say this, but I actually...liked...AL in this episode. Not just because she stopped the psycho Sayid from killing Henry, but because her "Sorry, that's not on the program" comment cracked me up. And her calmness was a nice change from Sayid's flipping out and Locke's usual craziness.

So, she's definitely the one I'd trust the most in that hatch right now! :shifty:

I'm glad your coming around Scarlett :). And I loved that "Sorry, that's not on the program" comment to.

[Mettanna]

Wow....I'm amazed Scarlett. Good for you.:D

I liked Ana a lot in this episode too. Not that she was in it very much, but her two scenes were pretty darn good. I personally liked -"Thank you" -"Shut up." Ahh....that Ana.