The Official Ana Lucia Rocks Thread!

[Leigh]

Dude, I love her voice too...it's great, very low and deep yet feminine and soft....I've always had a lower softer voice too and always felt odd about it, till I saw sex symbols like Angie Harmon and Michelle Rodriguez and now Scarlett Johanssen have deeper voices.

It's hot. :D

....or at least I think it is....guys? You'd know more than I about that I suppose lol.

[ActionAimz]

Ana -- MR has a very smooth voice. Jack doesn't trust anyone right now -- he is wound up so tightly. Ana is very very smart, and I liked how she tested him to see just how much he trusts her. I think as we see Jack trust Kate less and less, we will see him trust Ana more and more. She is on HIS side more than anyone on that island, and she is definitely showing him that in many ways.

I also loved seeing her go into cop interrogation mode in that little beach huddle. She definitely rocked in this episode.

[Yariene]

I agree with you guys and I hope that Ana and Jack have a talk about this. I don't want them to brush it off.

[ActionAimz]

someone posted in the eppy thread that one of the guys buying Sawyer's necklace was Jason -- the man who shot Ana. Anyone else catch this?

[Leigh]

I noticed that too....it looked A LOT like him!

L.

[Yariene]

Isn't great that people are hating on a character that is not Ana. We needed a break!

[looking_lost]

someone posted in the eppy thread that one of the guys buying Sawyer's necklace was Jason -- the man who shot Ana. Anyone else catch this?

I didn't notice that. I'll have to go find some screen caps.

[tnhand1022]

I'm so glad I stumbled across this forum; I'm tired of constantly defending why I don't want Ana Lucia to be killed off! The other day I had an unfortunate argument with an Ana Hater that ended in me calling her anti-feminist. That didn't help the situation...

Anyway, I look forward to chatting with everybody! :)

[Mettanna]

Dude, I totally thought it looked like him too! Let's see here...There aren't really any good screencaps of him...




http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x13-longcon/05/normal_2x14-longcon-0440.jpg

http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/Collision/normal_collision-promo23.jpg

Mmmm...I'm not sure, but I don't think so. they're similar looking, but I think they're different guys.

[Leigh]

I'm so glad I stumbled across this forum; I'm tired of constantly defending why I don't want Ana Lucia to be killed off! The other day I had an unfortunate argument with an Ana Hater that ended in me calling her anti-feminist. That didn't help the situation...

Anyway, I look forward to chatting with everybody! :)

Been there my friend, been there....don't expect much better here in this board in general...but at least your safe in this specific topic. :D

WELCOME!

[Mettanna]

I think we need an Ana-lovers slogan. You know, like how Kate has a slogan (Kate:No girl's just like her)? Yeah. We should come up with one. It would help spread some Positive Ana Energy around this place.

But I'll have to think about it...I don't know what it could be...

[Leigh]

Hmm....good idea....what shall it be?

P.S. Mettanna, I just noticed how much I love your av. ;)

[Yariene]

Kate has slogan? Really? How nice! :rolleyes:

[KeNe]

let's face it.. there's nothing they could do, it's not there decision who's gonna get killed off... so just ignore it....

[mge1979]

Kate has slogan? Really? How nice!

She does?! I wonder what it is... maybe it's like... okay never mind. i don't want to get into a fight with any Kate lovers out there...

Okay, this is totally off topic, Yarienne, your new mulder and scully banner is just gorgeous! I miss those two... now that gives me an idea, that would be absolutely hot if Michelle, Josh, and Foxy do a little something like that for Rolling Stone magazine... yummy! :p

[tnhand1022]

WELCOME!

Thanks!

[Yariene]

Okay, this is totally off topic, Yarienne, your new mulder and scully banner is just gorgeous! I miss those two... now that gives me an idea, that would be absolutely hot if Michelle, Josh, and Foxy do a little something like that for Rolling Stone magazine... yummy! :p
I'm gald you like my banner and I miss them too! They are my favorite tv couple ever. They defined UST. Such a great chemistry.
Can you imagined Foxy, Michelle and Josh doing something like that? Like a big puppy pile. It would be hot!

[Mettanna]

I never watched the X-files, but it's a very pretty sig. And thank you for the compliment on my Avatar Leigh...I do love my Capt'n Jack.

Anyway, yeah, Kate and a few other characters have slogans. Not too many people really use them, but I believe Kate's was "Kate: No girl's just like her." And I think Sayid had "Sayid: The True Island Leader."
I think a few others had 'em too, but people don't use them that often.

Anyway, I was trying to think of an Ana quote that would work, but I didn't find anything...Must keep thinking.

[Yariene]

Have you guys seen this. I laughed so hard! The things people will create, huh?

http://www.cafepress.com/thehatch/1081957

[Gage]

:crackup: some of the things on there, people create some different things, but I like them :p. Team Ana Lucia :coolguy:

[Nokoolaidforme]

LOL. Those T-shirts are hilarious.

[Leigh]

Omg....that ROCKS.

:D

[mge1979]

I love the shirts! :D
the thong looks interesting, i wonder who'll be brave enough to wear it...

[Mariusz Saint]

LOL! Strings with "Ana Lucia" :P

[ActionAimz]

LOLOL I would wear it proudly -- too cute

[La Mer]

Have you guys seen this. I laughed so hard! The things people will create, huh?

http://www.cafepress.com/thehatch/1081957

Omg, that's awesome Lol!:rotflol: They even have a bib, an apron, and a....thong?:eek: :D
I like the shirts.

[Mettanna]

Oh wow, Gage. Your avatar is beautiful!

Funny stuff dat...I want a Team Ana thong! :D (I kid, people, I kid.)

[Leigh]

Guys, how totally frightening and yet oddly cool would it be to put your baby in a 'Team Ana Lucia' onesie with a pic of a gun on it. Can you imagine the glares you'd get out in public? :D

[Gage]

:rotflol: Leigh, I read that & now I am so imaging that. I am so buying my new nephew one of those :p. I can only image the glares. I actually started to crack up just reading that.

Mettanna thanks, I like yours to. :)

[tnhand1022]

I'm looking for a beta to review a very short Ana fic that I'm working on, and figured this would be the best place to find one. I would be more than happy to return the favor!

Contact me privately if you're interested.

Thanks!
Nicole

[Yariene]

I'm letting you know that there's a new Michelle/Ana challange on the Creative LOST/Creative challenges. So go post if you know how to make graphics.

Link:
http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?p=924446#post924446

[ActionAimz]

thanks Yariene YES, I just made a bunch of new graphics which I should share here. tnhand, let me know if you still need a reader

[beauty_is_truth]

Hey y'all, another Ana Lucia supporter in the ranks, reporting for duty. I used to be pretty neutral about her, but after seeing Ana's back story I really sympathize with her and realize that her situation has made her the way she is. She may be a bit rough around the edges, but her actions with the tailies, how she became their leader and helped them all survive for their first 48 days shows that she's really got a good heart at the core. I think that her survival skills will be so important for the losties, and that she's a natural born leader, which will come in handy once the fusies start talking to her, which I think they will once they realize that her survival and leadership skills are highly developed. They just need time to get past Shannon's death, which is quite understandable. It's most obviously a mistake, and I really think that Ana Lucia will be accepted eventually, especially since at least Jack is talking to her now. So anyway, go Ana! :D

[Leigh]

*hugs*

Welcome! We need all the supporters we can get. :D

[BiggestLostfan]

check out my ana-lucia banner its banner 2

[Gage]

Hey y'all, another Ana Lucia supporter in the ranks, reporting for duty. I used to be pretty neutral about her, but after seeing Ana's back story I really sympathize with her and realize that her situation has made her the way she is. She may be a bit rough around the edges, but her actions with the tailies, how she became their leader and helped them all survive for their first 48 days shows that she's really got a good heart at the core. I think that her survival skills will be so important for the losties, and that she's a natural born leader, which will come in handy once the fusies start talking to her, which I think they will once they realize that her survival and leadership skills are highly developed. They just need time to get past Shannon's death, which is quite understandable. It's most obviously a mistake, and I really think that Ana Lucia will be accepted eventually, especially since at least Jack is talking to her now. So anyway, go Ana!

Another Ana Lucia supporter :boogie: (what is up with me and that smile lately lol)

And great Ana banner :).

[mge1979]

Hey y'all, another Ana Lucia supporter in the ranks, reporting for duty. I used to be pretty neutral about her, but after seeing Ana's back story I really sympathize with her and realize that her situation has made her the way she is. She may be a bit rough around the edges, but her actions with the tailies, how she became their leader and helped them all survive for their first 48 days shows that she's really got a good heart at the core. I think that her survival skills will be so important for the losties, and that she's a natural born leader, which will come in handy once the fusies start talking to her, which I think they will once they realize that her survival and leadership skills are highly developed. They just need time to get past Shannon's death, which is quite understandable. It's most obviously a mistake, and I really think that Ana Lucia will be accepted eventually, especially since at least Jack is talking to her now. So anyway, go Ana! :D

Awww, that is so sweet :D glad to have you here...

Guys, did any one of you order a Team Ana Lucia tee yet? :D

[Leigh]

Not yet. Money's uber tight lately, I'm gonna see if I can pull it off and if I can....I'll soon belong to "Team Ana Lucia".

:D

[tnhand1022]

Does it bother anyone else that Ana is constantly referred to as bitchy? In my mind, that word is just two steps above catty, and is closely associated with PMS.

[mge1979]

Does it bother anyone else that Ana is constantly referred to as bitchy? In my mind, that word is just two steps above catty, and is closely associated with PMS.

^I did say once that only a bitch can detect her fellow bitch if you know what i mean... :D Cheer up you'll get used to it, tnhand...;)

[ActionAimz]

Does it bother anyone else that Ana is constantly referred to as bitchy? In my mind, that word is just two steps above catty, and is closely associated with PMS.

I don't let it bother me, but I probably shouldn't fall in line with it. Whiny is two steps above catty to me. Often in this world women who are strong, capable, and take charge of situations are labeled bitches, whereas a man would be applauded for the same or harsher behavior . Had it been Eko barking orders to the rest of the Tailies instead of Ana, he would be labled fierce or a bad ass, never a bastard, or a character who needed to die.

[Leigh]

It irritates the hell out of me that she's so easily called bitchy. I've known plenty of bitchy people in my life and Ana is not at all like them. Bitchy people or bitches are usually bitter, angry, judgemental, jealous asses that try to make everyone around them miserable b/c they are....just b/c Ana get's hard on people and is take charge people call it bitchy. When a guy does it he's just tough and a bit of a hardass, but when a chick does it she's bitchy.

It's annying b/c Ana is the opposite of bitchy....Shannon was bitchy (the whole first season)....when someone deliberately tries to be mean and obnoxious, THAT is bitchy....trying to be a good leader and sometimes being overly harsh is not. I wish people knew how to differentiate between the two....

[Grhmlz]

Hi everyone. :)

New to this forum/ thread but not a new fan of Ana!!! I Usually spend my time posting at FF! LOL! She's been my favorite female character on LOST since the beginning of season 2!!!

[Yariene]

^Grhmlz, you are here! I didn't think you were going to register. Welcome! :D

[Grhmlz]

:D Hey, Yariene!! Yes, i'm here!

:) Okay, to put my 2 cents in here, Ana is not "bitchy." Or wait, is "bully" the description i'm use to hearing? Hmmm....anyway no mind because both labels are bogus.

IMO, Ana comes across as "flat out blunt and to the point." She doesn't wine, moan, and complain to get her way which in essence can make someone appear "bitchy." Sometimes her remarks are laced without a little sarcasm but hey? The situation usually called for it. I'm sorry but her type of demeanor was needed for the "tailies" survival whether that wants to be acknowledged or not. Someone like Bernard, who was too soft (and i like him), was not cut out to be leading that group!

Ana was not over-exerting or inflicting any power over the "tailies" that they weren't willing to submit to on some level! The truth is that they willingly followed under her leadership, with very little objection i might add! The Exception was Nathan, and u-hem, look where it got him! Dead!!! His constant need to rebel and challenge Ana on everything made him the perfect scapegoat for Goodwin to hide behind. Not to mention his own suspicious behavior! So, i ask, how does this make Ana a "bully"? Well, the obvious answer is that it's ludicrous.

[Leigh]

Hey guys....so I have like 10 Ana theories in my head regarding what happened after Jason, what happened between her and Danny, why she was in Sydney, etc.

One theory bout Danny that I just have a gut instinct about....you want to know what I think?

Ana had an affair....she cheated on him....perhaps out of a need to feel and getting caught up in the moment with someone or else as a way to push him away b/c she could not be around him. I don't know just...."There's nothing to work out....he left." One logically thinks that he was an sob and couldn't deal with her losing their baby, etc. But, what if the truth was that she cheated on him, either just to be with someone or else to drive him away. That's my gut's instinct, and I'm stickin to it.....though we may never know that unless MR sticks around and we get a 3rd flashback next season. The one we get before this season's up, if we even get a 2nd at all will likely deal with why she was in Sydney....but I'd love to see more backstories for her, showing the shooting/what happened with Danny post baby-loss etc. I don't know, I just love to think up Ana scenarios in my head....:D

Oh, but yeah Grhmlz....welcome! And, can I just say you're going to be a fav of mine....you speak the truth sister, don't stop! :D

[ActionAimz]

couples can easily fall apart after a tragedy like losing a child. Ana, blaming herself and being racked with guilt, she probably did everything she could to push him away to punish herself. Sniff, poor Ana, I want Jack to help her heal. Heehee. There is so much more to her story, we need more Ana backstory pronto.

[Yariene]

*whines* I don't want Ana to cheat on Danny. I want Danny to cheat on her with... Jack's wife.

[Gage]

I would rather Danny have left her because of the baby & he was just a jerk. I don't want Ana to have cheated on him either.

[Leigh]

No no....I'd much rather Ana be the cheater than the cheatee....there's more power there. To be cheated on makes you somehow lesser....weaker....unwanted somehow. I doubt that'd happen with Ana for some reason. ;)

[Gage]

^ True, no one wants to be cheated, you would rather be the cheatee. But I don't see Ana cheating on anyone. But I really don't think either cheated on the other.

[Grhmlz]

Hmmm.......interesting theories Leigh!

However, at this point, i'm not seeing anything that would indicate to me that she would have cheated on Danny. Of course, that's not to say that the show won't go there because anything is possible on it. Therefore, i won't be Shocked if Ana cheated.

But for the time being, i have a completely different perspective on Ana and Danny's relationship! I'm going to guess that if there was any "cheating"; it came from Danny's end and she pushed him away emotionally. See, i don't think Ana would have seen herself falling on the weaker end by being the one cheated on. In fact, she probably felt she had the control by emotionally surpressing him because she wouldn't break down the emotional barrier between the two of them until she was ready to. The mere fact the he could have been "physically" cheating on her could have been the result of her pushing away. However, she probably realized Danny was only getting half of what he was seeking on the outside if he truely did love her. Now, this is not to say she wouldn't be hurt by his "cheating" but just that this scenerio could easily place the "cheater" in a weaker/more submissive position.

Ana always keeps reinforcing how someone like herself is better off alone or that "she's already alone." For some reason i'm picking up these are not the sentiments of a "cheater" and i'll explain my reasoning below:

I think these two select phrases reveal a powerful hidden revelation about Ana. The first phrase, "someone like me is better off alone", parallels that exterior part of her that tries to come across tough and head-strong. She exhibited those traits in her leadership role on the island. She tried to remain in control in that position by remaining involved but distant at the same time. Well, i'm going to compare that to her life pre-crash and say this first phrase was her outlook when she was shot and lost the baby. For her, remaining strong probably included pushing Danny away and dealing with emotional pain on her own time and in her own way. In her eyes, that probably made her strong.

Now, to continue on, mixed with this strength is definitely a vulnerability that only flashes through at certain times which brings the second phrase into play, "I'm already Alone." The first vulnerable moment we were truely able to see was when she allowed herself to breakdown in front of Eko which is probably what she needed to do with Danny but never did. The next vulnerable moment is when she broke down after shooting Shannen and her group broke away to leave her. She mutters that very phrase to Libby in the jungle, "i'm already alone." See, she lead this group of people and kept them alive by trying to remain strong and tough and then in the end they all just wanted to leave her while she was having a weak moment breaking down? She probably felt betrayed and abandoned which can parallel back to Danny. While she felt she was doing the right thing by remaining tough and emotionally blocked, Danny abandons her which leads to mixed feelings of vulnerability and self-independence. As an example, i use the situation when she was on duty and pulled the gun on the man with the TV? Well, i read into that as Ana venting her own frustrations. I parallel it in this way. We see a woman and a man in a volatile confrontation with a screaming baby in the middle of it. I think in those moments Ana placed her mindset into her own situation. The man probably represented Danny and she overreacted and pulled the gun on him from her own unresolved feelings of anger towards him combined with the need to protect the baby from harm due to her own loss.

Therefore, you see, if she were the one "cheating" I think she would have been burying herself in another relationship to hide her pain or she would have jumped from relationship to relationship to avoid getting to close but that is not what it appears like she did. Instead, She seems to have put all this time and energy into creating this external facade that is suppose to show everyone that she is tough and can handle being completely alone.

:) LOL, Sorry i know this was long so i hope you were able to bare with me. When i begin to analyze, i tend to go all out!!!

[mge1979]

No no....I'd much rather Ana be the cheater than the cheatee....there's more power there. To be cheated on makes you somehow lesser....weaker....unwanted somehow. I doubt that'd happen with Ana for some reason. ;)

That storyline sounds good, but from the rabid hatred this character is getting, i'd rather have Ana as the one being cheated by Danny...


LOL, Sorry i know this was long so i hope you were able to bare with me. When i begin to analyze, i tend to go all out!!!

^Ha! you haven't read Leigh's posts yet... :D btw, glad you joined us here, Grhmlz... :D

[tnhand1022]

ActionAimz and Leigh - Couldn't have said it better myself. I hate the double-standard of how men and women are supposed to react in dire situations. The fact that Ana took up a leadership role at all led her down the "bitchy" path. I guess people wanted her to stop and ask the Tailies about their feelings or something. Like you guys said, Ana had to make tough decisions to keep everyone alive. I don't get how that equals bitchiness. Come on - it's not like she knocked somebody out, tied them up, and put an hallucinogenic on their head or anything...

Grmhlz - I think blunt is one of the best descriptors for Ana. It's also one of the many things women are not allowed to be. When a friend gets a terrible haircut and asks for an honest opinion, we all know what we're supposed to say. Being blunt is not an option! You're right, Ana is sarcastic sometimes, but I guess that's not allowed either. Jack was pretty sarcastic when he sent Boone on a wild goose chase for pens in the pilot episode, but that was allowed, and was played as humorous. Interesting point about the Tailies being willing to submit to Ana's power. I never thought of it that way, but it makes sense.

Glad I'm not the only one bothered by "bitchy"!

[ActionAimz]

Grmhlz, good insights. That is why I find Ana really fascinating, and why I was so pulled in after seeing her backstory. We don't really know the specifics of what happened with Danny other than her own conclusion that she was "meant to be alone", which to me says she would not seek out another man to cheat with, or jump into any kind of relationship, on the contrary she would further isolate herself from any and all emotional connections. She specifically said she was meant to be alone. I took it as a literal statement. So I don't think it had anything to do with infidelity. She probably just was emotionally unavailable to him and perhaps vice versa. But then again she came-on to Jack at the bar, so obviously she wasn't trying to be alone then so who knows. LOL.

Maybe she was on the road to recovery by that time she met Jack. She seemed happy to be in Sydney. But then all hell broke lose on the island and she has to relive another tragic life-altering split-second mistake. Her exile from the rest of the camp was self imposed because she thought everyone hated her, and they did all abandon her. So she probably thought, here we go again, further evidence that I just need to stay to myself. Jack was the first to reach out to her (love him for that) and seemed to not be willing to give up on her. Again, love Jack for that. :) Ahem, that's my Jana obsession coming out. LOL.

So now you see her back in the mix, going into "cop" mode and wanting to get to the bottom of what happened with Sun. I really hope they address Jack's lack of trust in her by insinuating that she may have plotted to get the guns, because that could have been a major set-back for her, considering he was the only one who truly believed in her. She seemed really excited to be teaming up with Jack, (while he, um, for whatever reason kind of gave her the brush off). For Ana to ignore that would be so un-Ana like. Either he wants her help or he doesn't. I was a bit confused by how that played out.

Maybe with Michelle now on the talk-show circuit, we'll be getting more Ana scenes this month.

[tnhand1022]

Ana had an affair....she cheated on him....perhaps out of a need to feel and getting caught up in the moment with someone or else as a way to push him away b/c she could not be around him. I don't know just...."There's nothing to work out....he left." One logically thinks that he was an sob and couldn't deal with her losing their baby, etc. But, what if the truth was that she cheated on him, either just to be with someone or else to drive him away. That's my gut's instinct, and I'm stickin to it.....

I'm with you on Ana pushing Danny away (I'm even working on a fic to that effect), but I'm not sure about the cheating. Mostly because I think she's too straightforward to do any kind of sneaking around. Maybe if she set something up, planning on Danny coming home and catching her in the act?

I had always interpreted "You hittin' that?" as her feeling out his situation with Kate because she didn't want to get in the middle of something. But having been a "cheater" in the past would be a durn good reason for her to ask. The more I think about it, the more I think it's a possibility...

Dang, Leigh, you're messing with all my preconceived notions about Ana!

[ActionAimz]

I'm with you on Ana pushing Danny away (I'm even working on a fic to that effect), but I'm not sure about the cheating. Mostly because I think she's too straightforward to do any kind of sneaking around. Maybe if she set something up, planning on Danny coming home and catching her in the act?

I had always interpreted "You hittin' that?" as her feeling out his situation with Kate because she didn't want to get in the middle of something. But having been a "cheater" in the past would be a durn good reason for her to ask. The more I think about it, the more I think it's a possibility...

Dang, Leigh, you're messing with all my preconceived notions about Ana!


Naw, that was blunt Ana verbalizing what any woman or man would be thinking in that situation. I loved the way she rationalized her assumption to Jack -- "'she's hot, you're hot, it's what people do.". Because the likelihood that they were intimate was pretty great all things considered. It was almost like it came to her that instant that there was more to Jack's feelings about Kate, so unable to censor herself she just spits it out. Ana wanted to know what kind of competition she had, because the girl still has her sights set on snagging Jack, and who could blame her. LOL.

It also lets her know where she stands or where she will stand with Kate. She knew right away that it was probably Kate who gave Jack the idea that she was untrustworthy. Ana is no dummy. She wants all cards on the table. And now she knows that Kate may give her grief down the line should she get closer to Jack.

[tnhand1022]

I really hope they address Jack's lack of trust in her by insinuating that she may have plotted to get the guns, because that could have been a major set-back for her, considering he was the only one who truly believed in her. She seemed really excited to be teaming up with Jack, (while he, um, for whatever reason kind of gave her the brush off). For Ana to ignore that would be so un-Ana like. Either he wants her help or he doesn't. I was a bit confused by how that played out.

There was something going on in Jack's head before Kate planted that seed of doubt. He looked at Ana like she was insane when she asked for the combination to the gun room. The look on her face after he walked away was just like, "So that's what he thinks of me." She was under the impression that they were on equal footing, but he knocked her back into her place. Ouch. I think that little scene is very important to their dynamic.

Here's where I get confused: based on the dialogue in The Long Con (Lost never provides straight answers), I got the impression that it was Ana's idea to get the combination from Locke, and Jack agreed to keep all the guns in one place in exchange for that combination. So how do you figure Jack isn't going to give Ana the combination when it was her friggin' idea?

Jack's not all that big on confrontation, so I wonder if he would have questioned Ana to her face if she hadn't said, "...after what happened [to Sun], people are finally willing to do something." The world may never know...

I agree that it would be un-Ana like to just let that go, but I think whatever change comes about will be internal. She's probably kicking herself for letting Jack chip away at the walls she's built, for opening herself up to that kind of rejection. I think she'll be more guarded around him now. The fact that she still approached him to talk about the army right after he bitch-slapped her down about the combo says to me that she's looking at the big picture. The safety of the group is more important than how Jack just treated her.

[tnhand1022]

Naw, that was blunt Ana verbalizing what any woman or man would be thinking in that situation.

LOL!


Ana wanted to know what kind of competition she had, because the girl still has her sights set on snagging Jack, and who could blame her.

Hmm... I just can't see Ana making a conscious attempt to snag Jack right now. I'm not saying that it's never crossed her mind, but I can't see her in any kind of pursuit. She's calmed down quite a bit since entering camp, but is still pretty deep in survival mode. While she engages in some playful banter with Jack, I don't see any end to her means right now. But that could just be me! I'm of the opinion that anything other than a good shag would be out of character for Ana right now, because I see her as still being kind of shell-shocked.


Ana is no dummy. She wants all cards on the table. And now she knows that Kate may give her grief down the line should she get closer to Jack.

She's definitely the type of person who would size everyone up, and would do so in a way that wouldn't tip Jack off.


This is what I love about the show. There can be 25 different interpretations of the same line of dialogue, especially for a character like Ana with such limited backstory information.

[ActionAimz]

The more I think about the Lon Con, the less optimistic I am that they will follow up with how it affected Jack and Ana's relationship, because first and foremost everything that happened in that eppy with Ana was to set her up as the red-herring. She was like a pawn of the writers in that regard, and that sucks. I read spoilers prior, so I knew Ana wasn't behind it. But I believe the audience was supposed to think it was Ana so we got all of those things just thrown at us with seemingly no follow-up. Hopefully I am wrong about that.

There was something going on in Jack's head before Kate planted that seed of doubt. He looked at Ana like she was insane when she asked for the combination to the gun room. The look on her face after he walked away was just like, "So that's what he thinks of me". She was under the impression that they were on equal footing, but he just knocked her back into her place. Ouch. I think that little scene is very important to their dynamic.
That was totally an ouch, and I maintain Ana backed off because he had told her all she really needed to know with his response, and that was that he doesn't trust her at all. It wasn't really about the combination, it was about where she stood with him. It was about respect. Jack looked like she knocked the wind out of him, and that was before the thing with Sun. I would think Ana would take major issue with that, maybe not right overtly right away, but add to that his insinuation that she plotted the whole thing, and at this point Ana has got to put him in check. If he doesn't trust her, sadly she needs to go on her merry way and just use him for hot sex, because Jack has lost all control and she doesn't really need him at this point. She can just as easily become allies with Sawyer or Locke, and just sex-up Jack, because he needs it. Tee hee.

Here's where I get confused: based on the dialogue in The Long Con (Lost never provides straight answers), I got the impression that it was Ana's idea to get the combination from Locke, and Jack agreed to keep all the guns in one place in exchange for that combination. So how do you figure Jack isn't going to give Ana the combination when it was her friggin' idea?
Not sure if it was her idea, but they did obviously talk about it. So it was either her idea, or an idea they reached together, either way, Jack can't just use her and expect her to fall in line like a minion. Its that, and also the way she just allowed Sayid to shoe her away last eppy that has me wondering if they are trying to tone Ana down a bit. For her to jump when men snap their fingers just doesn't seem like Ana, unless she is just laying low and sizing everyone up.

Jack's not all that big on confrontation, so I wonder if he would have questioned Ana to her face if she hadn't said, "...after what happened [to Sun], people are finally willing to do something." The world may never know...
I don't think he would have. He would have continued to give her the brush off without really expressing why. She opened the door for him to confront her, and I am glad he did. Maybe that is why she just decided to continue along with their plans to form an army as if nothing ever happened with the combination deal and all. So she could get to the bottom of why he mistrusts her. But really, does Jack think Ana would be that stupid if she had concocted that whole plot. Sheeze. LOL. Again, no credit. LOL. Lost better start showing me why Jack asked Ana to help him in the first place.

I agree that it would be un-Ana like to just let that go, but I think whatever change comes about will be internal. She's probably kicking herself for letting Jack chip away at the walls she's built, for opening herself up to that kind of rejection. I think she'll be more guarded around him now. The fact that she still approached him to talk about the army right after he bitch-slapped her down about the combo says to me that she's looking at the big picture. The safety of the group is more important than how Jack just treated her.
True but again, she doesn't really need Jack at this point. Jack has no control and is no longer in a leadership role on the island. That position is totally up for grabs. So my only conclusion is that Ana knows Jack is the most reliable of the bunch and she is smart to stick with him. Otherwise, don't see why she would bother at this point. He doesn't trust her, He doesn't have the loyalty of Locke or Sawyer or really anyone else when push comes to shove. I don't know how much Ana let her guard down with Jack. I think she does want law and order on the island just as much as Jack, so working with him was no real emotional risk for her. But I agree now she will be even more guarded than she was initially. Too bad. I am looking forward to Bonnie and Clyde kicking ass, so hopefully she will just be as blunt as always and tell him straight up that he needs to recognize. He needs her more than she needs him.

LOL!




Hmm... I just can't see Ana making a conscious attempt to snag Jack right now. I'm not saying that it's never crossed her mind, but I can't see her in any kind of pursuit. She's calmed down quite a bit since entering camp, but is still pretty deep in survival mode. While she engages in some playful banter with Jack, I don't see any end to her means right now. But that could just be me! I'm of the opinion that anything other than a good shag would be out of character for Ana right now, because I see her as still being kind of shell-shocked.

This is what I love about the show. There can be 25 different interpretations of the same line of dialogue, especially for a character like Ana with such limited backstory information.

Ana still has her eye on Jack, otherwise why would she care who he's banging. The thought would never cross her mind at all. It would be OMG an "other" pulled a gun on Kate's head, let's arm ourselves because we could all die. Is Kate alright? Was she hurt? Nooo instead the first thing that comes to her mind is are you hittin her. HAHA. She may not want to jump him now, but she is preparing herself for the time when it becomes more appropriate to make her move. HEE!!!! LOL. Nights are cold and lonely on the island. LOL. If you are going to die, might as well die with a hot man in your bed.

Even though we don't know alot about Ana right now due to lack of backstory, we were first introduced to her as someone hot for Jack. Not just mildly curious, not really put off that his father just died, not phased that he didn't seem to want to be bothered at the time. She was determined to push-up on him regardless. LOL. I am sticking to that, because that is why I fell in love with the character in the first place. LOL.

[Fish1941]

I would love to post some of these recent observations on Ana's past relationships with Danny and the Tailies, along with her present relationship with Jack.

Another note about Jack - do you think he will tell Ana-Lucia about Henry Gale?

[ActionAimz]

I would love to post some of these recent observations on Ana's past relationships with Danny and the Tailies, along with her present relationship with Jack.

Another note about Jack - do you think he will tell Ana-Lucia about Henry Gale?


Moreso, how do you think Ana would have reacted to the whole situation. Would she have backed Jack and tried to stop it, or would she have sided with Sayid. She threatened torture, with the "I'll cut off a finger" threat, but she didn't actually do it.

Normally Jack would keep the Gale thing hush hush, but since he's all alone in this, he may tell Ana, because she did have a direct encounter with one of the "others".

[Heinzy]

i cant belive how cruel ppl are bein, i no she's in the way of jate, but with her tragic story, u'd think ppl wud b more sympathetic lol i dunt think he'll tell anna tho, he may tell kate...

[tnhand1022]

ActionAimz, you are cracking me up! My boss must think I'm crazy, because daily construction reports just aren't this funny!

The more I think about the Lon Con, the less optimistic I am that they will follow up with how it affected Jack and Ana's relationship.

Lost does have a tendancy to drop the ball at times. Remember Michael's big water filtration/shower idea that looked so cool? Apparently we're the only ones who remember that.


That was totally an ouch, and I maintain Ana backed off because he had told her all she really needed to know with his response, and that was that he doesn't trust her at all.

Exactly. And Jack is way too dense to figure out that she figured that out.


Not sure if it was her idea, but they did obviously talk about it. So it was either her idea, or an idea they reached together, either way, Jack can't just use her and expect her to fall in line like a minion.

If Jack came up with the idea, I'll eat my hat. He can't strategize for sh*t. Either Ana came up with it and Jack agreed, or she gave him just enough info to let him think he came up with it on his own.


Its that, and also the way she just allowed Sayid to shoe her away last eppy that has me wondering if they are trying to tone Ana down a bit. For her to jump when men snap their fingers just doesn't seem like Ana, unless she is just laying low and sizing everyone up.

The bit with Sayid really bothered me at first, but not so much after I thought about it for a bit. Whatever goes on with the two of them is going to be extremely complicated, so I could buy her walking away out of some misguided attempt to assuage her guilt, or because she felt she owed it to him or something. She absolutely could be laying low and sizing everyone up though. Makes perfect sense.


... she doesn't really need Jack at this point. Jack has no control and is no longer in a leadership role on the island. That position is totally up for grabs. So my only conclusion is that Ana knows Jack is the most reliable of the bunch and she is smart to stick with him.

No matter what happens on an interpersonal level, Jack will always maintain some of his leadership role. It's all about supply and demand on the island: there will always be a demand for medical expertise, and Jack will always be the only supply. There is a kind of authoritativeness that is inherent to his profession, so I think people will always be willing to listen to what he has to say. And I think Ana will stick with him because she realizes that.


I don't know how much Ana let her guard down with Jack.

Ana's guard is down with Jack to the extent that her guard was down when she first met him. He knows that there is someone completely different underneath there, so it's almost like she's vulnerable with him by default, in comparison to how everyone else on the island sees her.


She may not want to jump him now, but she is preparing herself for the time when it becomes more appropriate to make her move. HEE!!!! LOL. Nights are cold and lonely on the island. LOL. If you are going to die, might as well die with a hot man in your bed.

Okay, so we agree that the timing is wrong! I'll also capitulate that she's looking at him and thinking a little something-something (who wouldn't be?), even with what went on in TLC. Trust isn't necessarily necessary for a steamy little tryst. ;) But any kind of relationshippy, emotional-connection stuff is what I'm not on board with. At least not right now. It's the whole onion argument - enough layers have been peeled away for Ana to get back to some of the flirtiness she had with him in the airport, but I don't think she's totally back there yet.


Even though we don't know alot about Ana right now due to lack of backstory, we were first introduced to her as someone hot for Jack. Not just mildly curious, not really put off that his father just died, not phased that he didn't seem to want to be bothered at the time. She was determined to push-up on him regardless. LOL. I am sticking to that, because that is why I fell in love with the character in the first place. LOL.

I'm still there with you. She had an interest, and still has an interest, but is not in a place to express that interest in a way that is good for anybody. Unless that interest is restricted to some hot, island-lovin'. ;)

[tnhand1022]

Another note about Jack - do you think he will tell Ana-Lucia about Henry Gale?

If Jack has any brains at all (which I'm starting to doubt), he'll tell Ana before someone else does, and their relationship has an even deeper rift. Even Jack has to realize that he needs all the allies he can get right now.

They've got three options: 1) only Jack, Sayid, and Locke will be taking shifts in the hatch from now on, 2) tell a select few and deny shifts to those who don't know, or 3) continue shifts as normal and let people know that there's a hostage in the armory. Any option that they choose will most likely result in the entire camp knowing anyway.

[ActionAimz]

ActionAimz, you are cracking me up! My boss must think I'm crazy, because daily construction reports just aren't this funny!



Lost does have a tendancy to drop the ball at times. Remember Michael's big water filtration/shower idea that looked so cool? Apparently we're the only ones who remember that.
Haha, so you read my fic? :) The hatch is the new caves. Not too many people remember Michael let alone what Michael engineered. LOL. And the dropping the ball thing has got to stop, because they keep piling on more and more, sooner or later they are going to have to tie up some loose ends.




Exactly. And Jack is way too dense to figure out that she figured that out.

If Jack came up with the idea, I'll eat my hat. He can't strategize for sh*t. Either Ana came up with it and Jack agreed, or she gave him just enough info to let him think he came up with it on his own.
I am foggy on the whole gun thing. Why was Locke involved at all, and where exactly were the guns before? Ana is and will probably always be one step ahead of Jack in the area of strategizing.

The bit with Sayid really bothered me at first, but not so much after I thought about it for a bit. Whatever goes on with the two of them is going to be extremely complicated, so I could buy her walking away out of some misguided attempt to assuage her guilt, or because she felt she owed it to him or something. She absolutely could be laying low and sizing everyone up though. Makes perfect sense.
Yea, maybe she just doesn't want to go there with Sayid right about now. But interesting thing is that she was looking for Jack!! Holy Moly, the Ana I know would have just gone up to Danielle herself and asked her what the hell she was doing lurking around. What's Jack going to do that she can't. LOL. Since when does Ana need to defer to the menfolk to take action. See what I mean. On the one hand, I am glad that she is thinking and seeking help before acting, but still, just didn't seem like Ana to me at first. I do want to see more of Ana and Sayid interracting, because there are lots of complexities yet to be explored. But the barking orders at her, hmph, lol I'll let it slide this time.


No matter what happens on an interpersonal level, Jack will always maintain some of his leadership role. It's all about supply and demand on the island: there will always be a demand for medical expertise, and Jack will always be the only supply. There is a kind of authoritativeness that is inherent to his profession, so I think people will always be willing to listen to what he has to say. And I think Ana will stick with him because she realizes that.
Yup yup. Despite everything, Jack is the most level-headed and pragmatic of them all. And that is sorely needed. Ana knows Sawyer is about a joke, and she must suspect Locke is a bit fruity. So many are all salty with Jack for being bossy and setting rules. I say let Jack refuse medical attention for a bit, then see how they like dem apples. They all owe their lives to that man, not to mention a big Thank You, for taking on a leadership role to begin with. But in reality, they don't realize Jack's value right now and I think any one of them is poised to turn on Jack any day now. That is why he needs Ana on his side.

Ana's guard is down with Jack to the extent that her guard was down when she first met him. He knows that there is someone completely different underneath there, so it's almost like she's vulnerable with him by default, in comparison to how everyone else on the island sees her.
Aww isn't that the sweetest too. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. Always loved the way she seems to totally soften around him. She totally put herself out there to be told to "beat it" at the airport. She knows how to work him. I am telling you, if she wanted something more with Jax, nothing would stop her from getting it. I honestly think she is simply buying her time until she can make her move again. I don't think she's given up at all. That little eye-brow raised when Jack mentioned Kate and it hit her that she has some competition. And then she finds out Kate is not above planting little notions in his head about Ana's intent. I am not sure exactly what Ana was after in the bar, meaning was it just a sex thang, or did she really want to get to know him. Who knows. She's attracted to him, is not shy about acting on that attraction, and I don't think that's gone away at all. Only now because of the circumstances, perhaps Ana will try to keep it from getting emotional. Not to worry, because Jack is pretty much the same way, which is why nothing really happened with him and Kate. He is not going to make any moves whatsoever. But Ana is not Kate, and is not going to play little games and beat around the bush. If, no when, she decides she wants it, homegirl will get it. Go Ana, Go Ana. LOL. (Sorry my agenda is clear here, can't help myself).

[tnhand1022]

Moreso, how do you think Ana would have reacted to the whole situation. Would she have backed Jack and tried to stop it, or would she have sided with Sayid. She threatened torture, with the "I'll cut off a finger" threat, but she didn't actually do it.

That's an interesting question.

I think the only reason Ana didn't go through with the cutting-off-a-finger bit is because Goodwin took matters into his own hands. I would see her as being more on Sayid's side of the argument, but whether or not she would agree with him in front of Jack is kind of intriguing.

Maybe she would've knocked Jack out and locked him in the armory so she could go about her torturing business. ;)

[Fish1941]

Since when does Ana need to defer to the menfolk to take action. See what I mean. On the one hand, I am glad that she is thinking and seeking help before acting, but still, just didn't seem like Ana to me at first. I


Either Ana is being careful right now, or the writers have changed her character to a degree that she will always be seeking the opinion or approval of the alpha males. I hope that it's the former.

[ActionAimz]

Either Ana is being careful right now, or the writers have changed her character to a degree that she will always be seeking the opinion or approval of the alpha males. I hope that it's the former.

Ugh me too. Now I have scared myself. LOL. The writers better not water her down. Grrr. Because I don't believe Sayid, and certainly not Jack could have weeded out and killed Goodwin like she did. She is fierce, and knows what she's doing.

I will believe the former though, because it's actually smart of her to enlist the help of others. Their first impression of her was a bad one, so it's best she act cooperative at this point and promote teamwork. LOL.

[tnhand1022]

The writers better not water her down.

I'm holding firm with the belief that the creators of Sydney Bristow aren't going let Ana be turned into a wimp.

[ActionAimz]

I'm holding firm with the belief that the creators of Sydney Bristow aren't going let Ana be turned into a wimp.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!

J.J. will not let us down!!!!!

If Ana is a bitch so aint Sydney. How many people did she kill. LOL. One of the best female characters ever!!!

[tnhand1022]

I am foggy on the whole gun thing. Why was Locke involved at all, and where exactly were the guns before? Ana is and will probably always be one step ahead of Jack in the area of strategizing.

The guns (except for the Marshal's) were always in the armory, but I think the door was always open until Michael took off with a gun and shut Locke and Jack in there. Afterwards, Locke took it upon himself to keep it closed and to routinely change the combination (correct me if I'm wrong). So Jack had to approach Locke for the combo.


Yea, maybe she just doesn't want to go there with Sayid right about now. But interesting thing is that she was looking for Jack!! Holy Moly, the Ana I know would have just gone up to Danielle herself and asked her what the hell she was doing lurking around. What's Jack going to do that she can't. LOL. Since when does Ana need to defer to the menfolk to take action. See what I mean.

I had totally forgotten about that! The only explanation I have is that both Jack and Ana were thrust into leadership roles without really asking for it. Maybe part of the bond that they've formed is from sharing the decision-making process. Or maybe Ana is trying to prove her trustworthiness to Jack so she can get her hands on that combo... ;)


...she must suspect Locke is a bit fruity.

LOL!!

[ActionAimz]

The guns (except for the Marshal's) were always in the armory, but I think the door was always open until Michael took off with a gun and shut Locke and Jack in there. Afterwards, Locke took it upon himself to keep it closed and to routinely change the combination (correct me if I'm wrong). So Jack had to approach Locke for the combo.

Oh yes, Michael. Makes sense now.

I had totally forgotten about that! The only explanation I have is that both Jack and Ana were thrust into leadership roles without really asking for it. Maybe part of the bond that they've formed is from sharing the decision-making process. Or maybe Ana is trying to prove her trustworthiness to Jack so she can get her hands on that combo... ;)

Or maybe she hadn't seen his fine ass around in awhile, and this was the perfect excuse to get close to him. Tee hee. But I do think that she wants people to trust her.

[Mettanna]

Well, but if she just went up to the French Woman, what was she gonna do? Ana' not dumb...she probably saw that Danielle had a gun, and she herself being unarmed, she just ran for back up. Plus, she probably wanted to be sure she wasn't making another mistaken taking Danielle for an Other (not that she doesn't look like one).

I don't think that Ana is being watered down per se...we are being shown an Ana not in 100% survival mode, certainly. But mostly she's just lying low, I think.

[Gage]

I don't think that Ana is being watered down per se...we are being shown an Ana not in 100% survival mode, certainly. But mostly she's just lying low, I think.

I agree, I think Ana is lying low now that she doesn't have to lead everyone & she doesn't want people to distrust or hate her more. She doesn't have to be the bad a$$ leader anymore, to protect everyone. And she doesn't want everyone to really not trust her and get all snappy with her.

[Grhmlz]

:) Thanks for the Welcome Guys!

I really hope they address Jack's lack of trust in her by insinuating that she may have plotted to get the guns, because that could have been a major set-back for her, considering he was the only one who truly believed in her. She seemed really excited to be teaming up with Jack, (while he, um, for whatever reason kind of gave her the brush off). For Ana to ignore that would be so un-Ana like. Either he wants her help or he doesn't. I was a bit confused by how that played out.

Yes, i agree. I had similar thoughts regarding this issue.

I believe Ana allowed her guard to remain down with Jack. Afterall, he is the only connection to her life on the island that is pre-crash. It may have only been a brief encounter but i think there is a small amount of security that comes from it. Now, after the accidental shooting of Shannen, Ana was more than willing to close herself off from the rest of the "fusie" group more than likely due to her own guilt and fear of more rejection. It was Eko that attempted to reassure her that most of the group probably acknowledged it has a mere "accident." Therefore, when Jack came to her at the end i feel it helped to relax her to the idea of opening up more to him.

Now, looking back, i realized that Jack did appear somewhat cold and distant from her after she confronted him about getting the door combination from Locke! What Was that about? Well, i really have no idea but i found it a bit strange since he was willing to gain her insight into his idea with the army to begin with. So, i was sort of left asking myself did some of his doubt about Ana come into play before Kate approached with the insinuation about her involvement in Sun's attack?

So, the question being is Ana effected by Jack's accusation against her? Yes, i think she was initially bothered and maybe she will put her guard up a bit in coming episodes. I mean, i thought it was kind of sad because although you won't ever see her huddled off in a corner crying over it i paralleled two moments on the show. The first being at the end of What Kate Did when she was off on the beach alone carving away at her stick! Obviously, a distractive technique to keep her mind busy but then Jack approached her and she let that guard down when he opened up to her. Then, we have her sitting alone in the dark at the end of The Long Con before Jack confronts Locke about the guns. Once again, she's carving away at her stick reverting back to that distractive technique. See, while we won't see her "balling her eyes out emotionally", i think these small moments provide some insight into some of her vulnerable moments on the show.

However, I fully realize that Ana is smart and she's not going to allow her vulnerable moments to overshadow her sensibilities! She knew enough to confront Jack right back by asking him how he came up with such an idea. Obviously, it didn't make much sense to her that this man would go out of his way to seek her help than "second guess" her at the drop of a hat!!! Therefore, i'm wondering if Jack and Ana are just both going to swallow their pride over the incident since they both may have come to realize they were both being used as pawns in a grander scheme cooked up by Sawyer.

This is why i enjoy the complexity of this character because Ana's persona is an effective combination of self-independence laced with human vulnerability! It will be interesting to see how the writers balance these character traits without completely shifting in one direction more than the other one. Unfortunately, she's already been inaccurately labeled as a "power-hungry mongrel" (rolleyes); therefore it will be good to watch some of those softer moments play out during the storylines. However, this should not be done at the expense of casting off Ana's independent nature or strong-willed tempermant because that is essentially pivotal to who the character is and has become. We witnessed this the first 48 days when she was cast into her leadership role with the rest of the "tailies."

[Mettanna]

Going off our current subject for a sec, I thought you guys would find this interesting. I went way back into L-F's archive because...I got bored, and I felt like it, to see what things were like back in the olden days...(people were actually ANTI Charlie/Claire, and FOR Charlie/Shannon.)

Anyway, I found this quote...it was a Sawyer fans frustration with always being on the dfeensive for Sawyer.

Guys, is it just me or do we seem to constantly defend Sawyer's reasoning? I've just had a very long discussion regarding Sawyer's past, his feeling towards Jack, Kate, etc etc etc and all i get out of them is stuff like "no, he doesn't feel any remorse", "he has no heart", "he ruins people's lives and wants us to feel sorry for him"....I mean....do some people not get the subtext of this character at all? Thank god on this forum most people can form an opinion based on the real reasoning behind this characterization. I mean, I know there's people who hate him, and I disagree with their points but I can appreciate them!! Argh, it's so frustrating to explain to people who base all their argument on implication, or "well, he stole stuff from Boone so he must be a bastard for beating him up when going through his things"....did they not watch the show because I'm sure he said he found the book.

So, could there be hope for Ana in the future? I mean, look at how much everyone LOVES Sawyer now...

[ActionAimz]

:) =

Now, looking back, i realized that Jack did appear somewhat cold and distant from her after she confronted him about getting the door combination from Locke! What Was that about? Well, i really have no idea but i found it a bit strange since he was willing to gain her insight into his idea with the army to begin with. So, i was sort of left asking myself did some of his doubt about Ana come into play before Kate approached with the insinuation about her involvement in Sun's attack?

It really bugs me when I think about, which I probably do way too much. She had to yell his name twice and run after him before he decided to turn around and acknowledge her. I know I keep saying this, but excuse me, didn't he ask her for help? She did not insinuate herself into the situation ala Kate, so why is he treating her like Kate. Shrug, maybe he didn't hear her? To me it would have been alot more effective if we had seen that camraderie in the beginning, only to see that dissipate as the episode unfolded, but right off the bat we see Jack seemingly -- um -- irritated, but he is like that with everyone these days.


Then, we have her sitting alone in the dark at the end of The Long Con before Jack confronts Locke about the guns. Once again, she's carving away at her stick reverting back to that distractive technique. See, while we won't see her "balling her eyes out emotionally", i think these small moments provide some insight into some of her vulnerable moments on the show.

I missed that entirely, must have stepped away from the TV. Yup nice parallel. And at that point she was unsure how many people believed that she was behind the whole thing -- how many people Kate told -- and now the one person who believed in her no longer does. -- aww that's got to hurt. I suspect pride will be swallowed, what other alternative do they have. Ana is likely happy that at least knows where she stands, and to watch out for Kate.

:) =
This is why i enjoy the complexity of this character because Ana's persona is an effective combination of self-independence laced with human vulnerability! It will be interesting to see how the writers balance these character traits without completely shifting in one direction more than the other one. Unfortunately, she's already been inaccurately labeled as a "power-hungry mongrel" (rolleyes); therefore it will be good to watch some of those softer moments play out during the storylines. However, this should not be done at the expense of casting off Ana's independent nature or strong-willed tempermant because that is essentially pivotal to who the character is and has become. We witnessed this the first 48 days when she was cast into her leadership role with the rest of the "tailies."


I love her for the same reasons. Her breakdown in front of Sayid, sealed the deal for me. There is some deep deep pain there, and I suspect there is more story to tell concerning her mother too.

I think Michelle herself may save the character in situations where she is yeilding control and tempers her aggressive behavior. It's in her tone of voice and looks -- oh the looks. That look she gave Jack after the combination request and Kate were priceless. It totally shows that she will not be messed with when push comes to shove. Her fierce looks, with no immediate action, says to me that she is laying low for now just sizing-up the group dynamics, but she will rise up at any moment if needed-- if you mess with her. Only Michelle could pull that of off so effectively.

[Leigh]

Totally agree....it's all in the eyes.

I loved the whole "Where would you get an idea like that?" She didn't even friggin blink she held her ground so hard.

You literally know exactly what the character of Ana is feeling when she speaks just b/c of the look in her eyes. Just b/c Michelle Rodriguez talks animatedly sometimes and has very distinct features and expressions people want to call it bad or overacting, b/c sometimes it's a bit distracting....but if your smart and observant enough to look past that and actually look AT HER EYES, you'll see such a dark sadness and confidence and expression there that is just unmatched. She flawlessly delivers even the lamest and most unimportant of lines, and THAT is acting.

[ActionAimz]

Totally agree....it's all in the eyes.

I loved the whole "Where would you get an idea like that?" She didn't even friggin blink she held her ground so hard.

You literally know exactly what the character of Ana is feeling when she speaks just b/c of the look in her eyes. Just b/c Michelle Rodriguez talks animatedly sometimes and has very distinct features and expressions people want to call it bad or overacting, b/c sometimes it's a bit distracting....but if your smart and observant enough to look past that and actually look AT HER EYES, you'll see such a dark sadness and confidence and expression there that is just unmatched. She flawlessly delivers even the lamest and most unimportant of lines, and THAT is acting.

Michelle catches way too much flack for being typecast, or playing herself, as if that mere fact renders her talentless. What she does, she does well. And it is acting, no matter how many tough chick roles she plays, it doesn't make her any less of an actor, who has to interpret and portray a scene with autheticity. Mind you I never heard of Michelle before Lost so that bar scene was my first glimpse, and sharp contrast to the other 48 days -- totally different vibe. There is something always so real and raw and vulnerable in Michelle's performances, and if she draws on personal experiences so be it. I think Lost creators are well aware of Michelle's background and acting style, and they hired her because of it, not in spite of it.

In fact I was listening to a podcast of a panel discussion with some Lost actors and writers. The majority of them did not read nor were they cast for a particular roles. J.J and company looked for that certain something special within each actor and created roles for them. There are few exceptions, but Yunjin, Harold, Jorge all said that. I believe that Michelle and Adwale (sp?), probably were cast that way as well.


I loved her delivery with Jack too, especially her response to where she was that morning "Lots of places." hahahaha, so smooth that delivery -- like don't even try to pin something on me. I find that hilarious that she immediately knew where Jack was going.

[Leigh]

I loved her delivery with Jack too, especially her response to where she was that morning "Lots of places." hahahaha, so smooth that delivery -- like don't even try to pin something on me. I find that hilarious that she immediately knew where Jack was going.

GREAT line. It was so quick and confident. Like she knew she didn't have to answer to him or anyone. She just answered so quick and simply and I loved it. It was such a cool thing to say. :D

And I agree about the Michelle bit. They knew her and what she'd done. They knew what she was about and what she brought to the screen. They could have cast ANYONE, bigger star, unknown, etc. and yet they cast HER. They wanted HER....and she is very distinctive in her style....and they knew that....and I'd much rather side with brilliant people like JJ friggin Abrams and such than with people who's opnions don't matter squat. I think we'd be in pretty damn good company sharing that opinion of MR with them.

[tnhand1022]

Not having the internet at home really sucks. I miss all the great evening discussions, and have to play catch-up in the morning! ;)

So, the question being is Ana effected by Jack's accusation against her? Yes, i think she was initially bothered and maybe she will put her guard up a bit in coming episodes. I mean, i thought it was kind of sad because although you won't ever see her huddled off in a corner crying over it i paralleled two moments on the show. The first being at the end of What Kate Did when she was off on the beach alone carving away at her stick! Obviously, a distractive technique to keep her mind busy but then Jack approached her and she let that guard down when he opened up to her. Then, we have her sitting alone in the dark at the end of The Long Con before Jack confronts Locke about the guns. Once again, she's carving away at her stick reverting back to that distractive technique. See, while we won't see her "balling her eyes out emotionally", i think these small moments provide some insight into some of her vulnerable moments on the show.

Huh. I've noticed both stick-carving scenes, and have wondered what the heck she's carving (if this were the Buffyverse I'd say stakes), but I never made the connection between her carving and her emotional state. Excellent observation.

The stick-carving scene in TLC struck me because it was the first time we saw Ana in the midst of camp. I was kind of surprised to see her sitting there by the fire with everyone else around. I wonder if this is the first time she's joined the group like that, and if so, why? There was also the little gun summit earlier in the episode where Ana joined the fusie elite (Jack, Kate, Locke, and Sawyer) to discuss the matter at hand. That was a pretty big development as well. Now that I think about it, The Long Con was a pivotal episode for Ana, despite the small amount of time she was actually on screen. To quote MR, it's the "quiet subtlety" of the show that I love. Big things can happen without huge dramatic events.

[tnhand1022]

Michelle catches way too much flack for being typecast, or playing herself, as if that mere fact renders her talentless. What she does, she does well. And it is acting, no matter how many tough chick roles she plays, it doesn't make her any less of an actor, who has to interpret and portray a scene with autheticity.

Grr! Why are strong women such an anomaly that MR gets typecast for portraying them? And why is she "playing herself" because she's independent and capable as well? How many men play the same tough-guy action-star over and over? Hello? Double standard?


Mind you I never heard of Michelle before Lost so that bar scene was my first glimpse...

You should definitely rent her movies. Good stuff. Girlfight was awesome.

[Yariene]

Do you guys know if Ana is going to be on Maternity Leave? I read somewhere that we won't see her tomorrow.

[tnhand1022]

Do you guys know if Ana is going to be on Maternity Leave? I read somewhere that we won't see her tomorrow.

No clue. I avoid spoilers like the plague. I hope that's just a rumor though!

[Yariene]

I don't know how can you avoid spoilers. I would love to be spoiler free, but for me is impossible.

[Grhmlz]

Yariene, i read spoilers too but i don't remember coming across any information that said Ana wouldn't be in the episode.

However, since it is a Claire-Centric Eppy, it won't surprise me if she is not (still trying to figure out how Kate gets to be in it when she's hardly been involved with a Claire plotline But Whatever rolleyes )! Then again, if we are lucky enough to see her at all it will probably only be one or two times at most.

To be honest, this pattern is starting to tick me off a bit too because it seems like the writers have no whims about throwing Kate into any plotlines as long as she gets screen time. And get this? I'm actually a Kate fan and i admit it's irritating the living daylights out of me now. I just don't understand how the writers can introduce a character, like Ana, so strongly in the beginning with a pivotal role only to cast her into the background now walking in the shadows of Jack, Kate, or Locke. Ana's character belongs on equal ground.

[ActionAimz]

Ana is in a screencap with Kate, Jack, Sawyer and Locke for this episode. She we'll catch a glimpse of her. Betcha they are talking about GUNS.

http://www.lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-

I hear ya about Kate Grhmlz. If she weren't constantly shoved at us, I could tolerate her a bit more. And lately all she's done is cause more mayhem and be a little busy body. I am ready for her to take a nice long nap wherever Walt and Michael are right now. I just need a break from Freckles' Hour.

I am looking forward to seeing Claire though. And what about Sun. And we've learned nothing about Libby. There are other females on this program. I'd wish they'd use them more.

[Leigh]

Do you guys know if Ana is going to be on Maternity Leave? I read somewhere that we won't see her tomorrow.


WHAT.

Where did you hear this....and if it's true then I'm literally gonna throw a hissy fit. I get that she won't be involved in the Libby/Claire/Kate/Danielle stuff. BUT part of the ep description is how Jack and Locke struggle to keep their prisoner a secret. Well, Ana SHOULD play a huge friggin part in that. She doing a sort of co leader army thing with Jack, Ana is a huge aspect of the whole The Others bit and such, so to simply have her not even try to ask Jack what's going on or not get to see/try to see the prisoner is to me piss poor writing. These people are neglecting important and blatantly frickin obvious stuff that SHOULD involve Ana moreso than ANYONE else. God, if this is true I'm gonna be so freaking pissed off.

It's bad enough that we've only gotten between 20 seconds and 2 minutes of Ana in the last 6 FREAKING EPISODES, but now she might not gonna be in it at all this week?! What. The. Hell.

You don't bring a semi-famous movie actress onto a show and let her dominate for three major sweeps eps, then only give her less than a minute of screentime in half a dozen or more eps after that. I don't care what the hell is going on behind the scenes....they are majorly screwing up. Capturing an Other should involve Ana no matter what....it's like having a drug related episode and leaving Charlie out of it. Or having a medical crisis and Jack is not around. Jesus Christ, these people need to wake the hell up and realize they are freaking WASTING MR's talent and time....and our time too....if they don't want to use her (and use her when any writer with a brain should know they should) then just let her go. I'd rather her not be on at all then be grossly misused and neglecting during times she should be involved more than anyone.

Rant over. Thanks for pissing me off Yariene. :p

:D ;)

[ActionAimz]

Take some deep, deep breaths Leigh.

Are we not supposed to believe the promo screencaps? Because if we are, she's on tomorrow.

[Leigh]

If you're talking about the one where they're all standing around in a group looking wet....that is a misfiled pic from The Long Con. That is clearly from the "Where did you find her/we need to check it out with guns." scene.

Look, this is a screen caps for The Long Con:
http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/galleries/lost/lost_2x13_1/2x13_020.jpg

It's the same scene. L-M just never moved it.

So....I'm still freaking out. :p

[ActionAimz]

yup that's the one

So continue with your rant. :mad:

[Leigh]

LMAO. Ok, thanks.

ARRRRRRRRRGHHHHH!!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

*panting heavily*

[Fish1941]

If you're talking about the one where they're all standing around in a group looking wet....that is a misfiled pic from The Long Con.

But this scene doesn't jibe with what we've seen in "The Long Con". At least to me. Why would Sawyer be involved in a conversation with Jack and Locke about the guns, when he was engaged in the con in the first place? And neither Locke, Kate or Sawyer were involved in Jack's army at that point.

[Leigh]

I know, it doesn't seem right or realistic, but it's that scene alright.

That seems to be a trend with the writers....they don't think through which characters would logically be used in which scenes....well....obviously, or else in TLC Ana wouldn't have just fallen off the face of the earth and not had any contribution or even be friggin shown when Sawyer revealed himself.

She also should have been involved in the Henry bit in One of Them....but nothin. Where was she when baby Aarin was nabbed by Charlie in Fire+Water? Ana has baby issues....yet nada. Ana's a skilled gal, but in the Hunting Party....nada. Ana and Eko were close, yet in the 23rd Psalm she's no where around. They are screwing up majorly. There's certain storylines that should involve the use of certain characters....they are so off base with that it's not even funny.

Claire goes off in the next ep to find answers....why the HELL is Kate going? Danielle I can understand b/c she has a past with Claire and Aaron....but why Kate? No reason that's why. It should be Locke with them, and meanwhile Ana should find out about the prisoner and play a part in the conflict Jack/Sayid conflict. THAT's how Maternity Leave should play out....but you know it won't.

[ActionAimz]

Can I ask a shallow question?

Why is it that Ana has not been allowed to change clothes since she set foot on the airplane? It's basketloads for everyone else.

[Mettanna]

^ My mum says she thinks it's symbolic of how the Fusies haven't really accepted Ana yet. Then, some day, they shall present her with clothes in the Fusie Initiation Ceremony, and she will Belong. :)



Ana and Eko were close, yet in the 23rd Psalm she's no where around

I know. The Aneko shippin' side of me was saddened. The writers ahve said that they really want to focus on the old folk after the Tailie-intensive beginnibg of the season...they felt like our dear old friends had kind been pushed to the back burner, and they wanted to go back to them for a while. But, I believe Ana will be getting more and more involved as Tension Regarding the Others and the Army grows...

Although, I must say, I would consider us lucky if we get some Ana-ness tomorrow...there really isn't much of an opening in there for her, aside from possibly the keeping Henry a secret thing. But that might just be Locke and Jack fighting like sisssies again. Or more, Jack fighting with Locke, since it very often seems to be Jack who has the problem....

Still, I'm excited for this episode, because I have been wantin' some answers on this Claire thing for ages. They'd better make it good.

[Remus Lupin]

I know, it doesn't seem right or realistic, but it's that scene alright.

That seems to be a trend with the writers....they don't think through which characters would logically be used in which scenes....well....obviously, or else in TLC Ana wouldn't have just fallen off the face of the earth and not had any contribution or even be friggin shown when Sawyer revealed himself.

She also should have been involved in the Henry bit in One of Them....but nothin. Where was she when baby Aarin was nabbed by Charlie in Fire+Water? Ana has baby issues....yet nada. Ana's a skilled gal, but in the Hunting Party....nada. Ana and Eko were close, yet in the 23rd Psalm she's no where around. They are screwing up majorly. There's certain storylines that should involve the use of certain characters....they are so off base with that it's not even funny.

Claire goes off in the next ep to find answers....why the HELL is Kate going? Danielle I can understand b/c she has a past with Claire and Aaron....but why Kate? No reason that's why. It should be Locke with them, and meanwhile Ana should find out about the prisoner and play a part in the conflict Jack/Sayid conflict. THAT's how Maternity Leave should play out....but you know it won't.

I agree with you here. Ana should DEFINITELY be more in Lost. I think she should have been in involved with Henry Gale. Somehow, I would've trusted her judgement way more than Sayid's or Locke's. (Besides Jack and Ana in the same scene is SOO great!! ;)) And I think she should've joined Locke in punching Charlie in Fire + Water.

I guess the reason that she doesn't get to be with these people is that they don't trust her too much. Neither Claire or Danielle know her at all, so it'd be a little awkward. Besides Kate is about as smart as Ana is (but I think Ana is a little smarter - but just a little :p) and I think Kate is very capable too.

I like what they've done with Ana. She was a real bitch in the first few episodes, but after Abandoned I started liking her. And then slowly it turned into loving her. Now I'm REALLY into Ana. But she's not in Maternity Leave at ALL! I hope she'll get another episode this season.

[Grhmlz]

But she's not in Maternity Leave at ALL! I hope she'll get another episode this season.

:confused: :( Wait, so you know for a fact that she won't be in the episode Tomorrow night? Urrggh......

The only reason i'm looking forward to it is because it's about Claire and should answer some questions about her!

But other than that, i'm sick and tired of only seeing Ana scattered here and there in 1 or 2 scenes less than a minute long!!! And let me just express my irritation on the possiblity that Kate might find out from Jack about Henry being in the hath before Ana does...........

(***runs off before entering full rant mode......***)

[tnhand1022]

But this scene doesn't jibe with what we've seen in "The Long Con". At least to me. Why would Sawyer be involved in a conversation with Jack and Locke about the guns, when he was engaged in the con in the first place? And neither Locke, Kate or Sawyer were involved in Jack's army at that point.

That conversation was the big summit right after an injured Sun was brought back to camp. Jack, Locke, Kate, Sawyer, and Ana were standing around discussing what to do, and Ana said they should mount up and head out, with guns. It didn't have anything to do with the army or the current status of the guns.

Photographic memory here. Sorry. :rolleyes:

[tnhand1022]

I don't know how can you avoid spoilers. I would love to be spoiler free, but for me is impossible.

I'm very militant about it. I don't even watch the preview for the next week's episode. Way back when I got spoiled out of the big reveal on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode, Enemies. I was so pissed I stopped reading spoilers and watching previews right there.

Wow. Just realized I've been spoiler-free for 7 years. Doesn't that mean I'm a virgin again? ;)

[Remus Lupin]

:confused: :( Wait, so you know for a fact that she won't be in the episode Tomorrow night? Urrggh......

The only reason i'm looking forward to it is because it's about Claire and should answer some questions about her!

But other than that, i'm sick and tired of only seeing Ana scattered here and there in 1 or 2 scenes less than a minute long!!! And let me just express my irritation on the possiblity that Kate might find out from Jack about Henry being in the hath before Ana does...........

(***runs off before entering full rant mode......***)

I love all the characters. ALL OF THEM. Some more than the others, perhaps, but just a bit. I really enjoy seeing Ana on screen though. But Henry Gale, my #1 favourite is in this episode, so YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!

[Grhmlz]

I love all the characters. ALL OF THEM. Some more than the others, perhaps, but just a bit. I really enjoy seeing Ana on screen though. But Henry Gale, my #1 favourite is in this episode, so YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!

LOL!!! Well, i like all of the characters most of the time but there are a few that have been really getting on my nerves lately. So, i have no problems expressing/joking some of my frustrations on unappreciation threads at FF!!! lol Kate has not gotten there yet and i don't want it to because i like Skate but i'm getting annoyed by the fact that some of these characters are being thrown into any storyline even if it doesn't make sense for them to be there. I mean, personally, i would have preferred seeing Sun involved in Claire's story more.

The only valid plotline that makes sense to have Ana involved in right now is the Henry Gale story since Jack is suppose to be partnered up with her on what is going on with the "Others." I mean, he had no problem coming to her for her expertise as a "cop" regarding the army formation, why not come to her now regarding Henry??? Ana may have aquired certain interrogation tactics as a cop that allow her to decipher if someone has something to hide! I say let her give it a go and question him but don't just let the character fall by the wasteside with no involvement with anything!!!

[ghostgirl05]

Wow, I feel pretty dumb because all of you are analyzing Ana and what we know about her. I'm not that great with that kind of thing, lol, but I understand what you guys are pointing out and it makes it a little easier for me to understand her more and how much I love Ana more.
Michelle makes her so strong yet so human like with the emotions. I wish to be strong as Ana and to be bold. But I'm more like Sun/Claire, lol, but that's cool too.:D
So, keep holding on my Ana-fan friends :D, we'll make the Ana haters see that she's not that bad :D. Hopefully.

[Leigh]

*hugs hostgirl05*

:)

[Mettanna]

Run for it spoiler-phobics.


I just watched the AOL clips...yeah, Im thinkin Ana ain't around much in this one...in fact, it doesn't look like she's involved in the Henry thing. Turns out Eko is the one who wants to question Mr. "Gale". Well, he has Other Experience Credentials too...and he has had even less screen time than Ana lately. I love that man....

[ghostgirl05]

Awww!! Thanks Leigh!!!:hug2:

[Leigh]

Run for it spoiler-phobics.


I just watched the AOL clips...yeah, Im thinkin Ana ain't around much in this one...in fact, it doesn't look like she's involved in the Henry thing. Turns out Eko is the one who wants to question Mr. "Gale". Well, he has Other Experience Credentials too...and he has had even less screen time than Ana lately. I love that man....

Hey, I love Eko too....the man rules. But questioning Gale is NOT, and I repeat NOT his place. WHAT THE FLYING FLIPPING FUDGE IS THIS CRAP!? Eko of all people is gonna be in on this? Where the hell is Ana? Huh? Ana's like....'The Others chick"....the fact that they are neglecting using her for this storyline is the biggest dumbass oversight of the writers in awhile. This is just plain friggin silly. *shakes head*

I'm like so pissed right now it's not even funny. It's one thing to not use her for stuff she really has no involvement in like the Claire/Kate/searching bit and such....but THIS? THIS is EXACTLY the type of thing that Ana should be logically in on....what the hell are these idiot writers thinking.....SERIOUSLY. :mad:

[Grhmlz]

Personally, if you want my opinion, their infamous line of "we don't let the actors/actresses personal lives direct the storyline..." blah blah is turning out to be the biggest line of bull because it sure looks like its effecting it to me. I mean, seriously folks, is it just me or has Ana's character been completely downplayed since the second half of the season returned? We've seen her in a small scene here and there for maybe a couple minutes at a time. That is hardly building up a character to become involved in important plot points!

And Leigh's right, now we have Eko of all people leading an interrogation of Henry? I love the guy, but something doesn't fit right here. Wasn't this the same guy that was opposed to her tactics with Nathan and made it his business to feed him while she was trying to interrogate him about his suspicious demeanor? Hmmm.... I don't get it!!

[Fish1941]

And Leigh's right, now we have Eko of all people leading an interrogation of Henry? I love the guy, but something doesn't fit right here. Wasn't this the same guy that was opposed to her tactics with Nathan and made it his business to feed him while she was trying to interrogate him about his suspicious demeanor? Hmmm.... I don't get it!!

I must admit that Eko's part in the Nathan situation has left me wondering.

If Eko really had a problem with Ana-Lucia's tactics regarding Nathan, why didn't he free the guy? Why did Eko merely fed Nathan, instead of helping him out of the pit? Never made any sense to me . . . unless Eko was also suspicious and had no problem with Ana keeping Nathan in the pit.


Danielle I can understand b/c she has a past with Claire and Aaron....but why Kate?

Kate was the one who had delivered Aaron in "Do No Harm".

[Remus Lupin]

Yeah. Ana should've more screentime. But Kate and Claire have been friends since the very first few episodes, so I don't see why Claire would hang with Ana who had actually just shot Shannon. I mean, we all know it was an accident and they know it too, but it still feels horrible that someone killed one of your friends. And she barely knows Ana. So I think Kate's presence is pretty justifiable.

Eko is very insightful. I am EXTREMELY happy that he is the one who interrogates Henry. If someone can get something out of him (that is, if he's lying) it's Eko. He's got some charm, the man.

[Leigh]

Yeah so you wanna read something that'll make you scream?

Check out the "Lost synopsis from the Canadians" thread in Spoilers. Wow....that's friggin hilarious (the Kate bit).

*shakes head at the stupidity of it all*

[ActionAimz]

Thanks for the link Leigh. You are crackin me up in that thread BTW. I really thought maybe Lost was shifting away from ALL-MIGHTY SUPER KATE by introducing a truly kick-ass, take charge character - aka Ana. I am highly highly disappointed that she is so grossly underutilized. Echo killed two others. WTF ever. That ish makes me so red hot I can't even type straight, and I dig Eko, but his whole path to righteousness is beyond worn into the ground by now.

Back to Kate, not surprised at all, I just thought they were maybe moving away from her being all up in everybody's koolade. The joke's on me. The thing about Kate is that I can't for the life of me figure out why we are to believe that she would have these types of abilitities. She was a bumbling con-artist and fugative. Ana was a cop, she had professional training in survival tactics. Even before Ana appeared, I never related to Kate on any level. She could climb trees and tagalong, that was it.

I'll keep hope alive that we will see Ana more in the coming week, as it seems they are really about to start a war between Jack and Locke.

[Grhmlz]

Yeah. Ana should've more screentime. But Kate and Claire have been friends since the very first few episodes, so I don't see why Claire would hang with Ana who had actually just shot Shannon. I mean, we all know it was an accident and they know it too, but it still feels horrible that someone killed one of your friends. And she barely knows Ana. So I think Kate's presence is pretty justifiable.

:) I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on one point here. I happen to be a Kate Fan, but i think she looks way out of place in this storyline. Her major focus has always been "tagging along" with the boys and now she's tagging along with Claire? The only major interaction Kate has had with Claire is when she helped to deliver her baby! That hardly established any long standing friendship at least not from what i've seen. Actually, i was a little blown away to suddenly find her in Claire's tent when Charlie approached during Fire + Water when that aired.

For me, it would have even made more sense to see Sun involved in this plot. At least Sun was the one involved with her last season, when Danielle hit Claire over the head and kidnapped Aaron! But that's just me.

I wouldn't even expect to find Ana involved in this particular storyline. And i actually want more Ana scenes. I'm still trying to figure out what Kate's place in all of this besides the writers just trying to thrown in screentime for her?

Eko is very insightful. I am EXTREMELY happy that he is the one who interrogates Henry. If someone can get something out of him (that is, if he's lying) it's Eko. He's got some charm, the man.

:) Yes, i really like Eko and would like to see much more of him but i still think it would have made more sense to pull Ana into this plot as far as interrogation is concerned. She was a cop and would be more skill-oriented! Eko may just be able to represent himself as an "intimidation" factor but that's not guaranteed to provide results. Ana may not get answers but at least she is trained with a certain type of insight to suspect whether or not someone is hiding something even if they refuse to be truthful. That's why Nathan and Ana clashed because she zeroed in on his suspicious behavior! He may not have been the spy, but there was something that dude was hiding! Nobody takes off into a jungle alone for 2 hours to figure out how to go to the bathroom! Especially, when you already know there is a threat out there!

[ActionAimz]

Ana nabbed Nathan with her interrogation tactics. Maybe that is why she is being left out, because she might actually accomplish the goal (heavy sarcasm)

I have to be careful not to spoil here but Eko :shifty:

[ActionAimz]

PREVIEWS :D :D :D :D :D

Spoiler I knew Locke would approach her and keep it from Jack

[Yariene]

DUDES! Did you see the previews for the next episode? Now, that's what I'm talking about! Locke went to Ana to resolve the Henry situation. Henry draws Ana a map to find the balloon and the Ana goes to Sayid. That episode is going to kick ass! Too bad we have to wait for March 22nd for the next episode.

I love Locke again. He went behind Jack's back. Jack is going to be pissed.

[ActionAimz]

DUDES! Did you see the previews for the next episode? Now, that's what I'm talking about! Locke went to Ana to resolve the Henry situation. Henry draws Ana a map to fnd the balloon and the Ana goes to Sayid. That episode is going to kick ass! Too bad we have to wait for March 22nd for the next episode.


March 22, my birthday!!!!

So excited, and Michelle is doing the media thing the week prior.

I knew, just knew Locke was going to approach her while keeping it from Jack.


Ana and Sayid!!!!!!!!!!

VERY HAPPY NOW

[Yariene]

I love Jack but he is acting like a moron. He just doesn't realize the mess he is in. He should be making Ana his ally but no he is ignoring her. He doesn't trust her. I wouldn't be surprise if Ana starts turning to Locke now.

[ActionAimz]

I love Jack but he is acting like a moron. He just doesn't realize the mess he is in. He should be making Ana his ally but no he is ignoring her. He doesn't trust her. I wouldn't be surprise if Ana starts turning to Locke now.

This is exactly what Jack needs, and I honestly had a feeling this would happen. Ana was the only capable person totally on his side and he used her then brushed her off. So Locke is smart enough to approach her at a time when Jack is being an ass. Props to Locke. And then she's interracting with Sayid, whho now also has major issues with Jack. Ultimately I think this will be a wakeup call for Jack in a big way. Ana is too pragmatic to really deal with Locke for too long I don't see her truly becoming his ally, but she is not going to sit around and wait to be ordered around like she's somebody's lackey. I so hope Lost gives this to me and other Ana fans. Jack's got alot of apologizing to do. And I love Jack, but yea he needs this rude awakening -- he needs Ana, but she can do perfectly fine without him.

[Yariene]

I can already see Jack being all high and mighty. He's going to say, How can you do this without my pemision? How can you go behind my back? They go behind his back because he doesn't do anything. He's the leader and he is the least pro active person ever.

[ActionAimz]

Jack does what he can, like he said tonight you just have to keep doing. He tried the army thing but went about it all the wrong way. First of all it seemed like Ana was the one doing all the work trying to round up recruits while he couldn't hardly be bothered to even listen to her updates. then the ass has to go and question Ana's motives, when she was working her tail off at HIS request. I am still a touch irritated about that. LOL. Still love Jana, and hoping this is a bridge to Jack taking her seriously and taking action to get her back on his side.

[Yariene]

Jack could have been doing so many things that doesn't involve guns; to make the castaways feel safe. He's not doing anything to protect the group form the freaks. He could arrange for some training. Like hand to hand combat. He has a soldier and a cop to help him. He could be planning stuff that doesn't need guns. He could be doing other things. If he doesn't know what to do. He should ask Ana, Sayid, Locke, etc. He shouldn't ask people to help him and then ignore them. I just don't undetstand him.

[Leigh]

Ok guys I never really understood why you guys used the term "squee"....it always seemed....odd.

But after tonights preview, I can officially say.....SQUUUEEEEEEEEEEE!!

:D

You all know how much I was bitchin about Ana not interrogating him, now I can stop. :D I have to say though, it does seem a bit out of character for Ana to treat him nicely. She has a tendency towards massive violence/rage when it comes to possible Others....so I really think she meets him and then thinks he is NOT one....if she thought he COULD be one, then I just know she'd start her own cruel interrogation/threats. The fact that she almost seems to be showing him kindness in the promo/giving him the chance to prove his story shows that she obviously doubts that he's one of them, b/c let's face it if she thought he was, he'd be in for some serious punishment....or he'd be dead. So yeah, for whatever reason that I guess we'll see, she obviously doesn't think he's one of them....interesting!

Anyway, here's some Ana caps I made from the promo for those who need/want 'em. Just click the thumbnails for the larger versions. :)

http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_01.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_01.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_02.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_02.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_03.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_03.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_04.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_04.jpg)

http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_05.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_05.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_06.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_06.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_07.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_07.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_08.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_08.jpg) http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/th2x16_09.jpg (http://www.mclaughlinlabs.com/leigh/forumstuff/2x16_09.jpg)

L.

[ActionAimz]

GO ANA, GO ANA


SQUEEEEEEE

thanks for the cappies Leigh, I was just about to go hunting. Does anyone have a transcript or a vid clip, because I was so busy going SQUEE. lol, that I didn't quite catch the thing with Sayid. I am so so excited that she is interracting with Sayid. MR and Naveen have amazing chemistry.


Ana is smart, if she's being milder with Henry it's because she's workin him period. She was totally that way with Goodwin up til the very end. And since they are not under seige like they were in the last 48 days, and Henry is not an immediate threat, there is no need for those types of tactics. Back then she was totally at war. Now it's much different and she has calm people backing her, not a bunch of frieghtened castaways.

[ActionAimz]

sorry in advance for double post, but is anyone watching Jimmy Kimmel right now, Ana-Lucia was in his monologue.


Something like Lost was on tonight ... a few weeks ago Ana-Lucia accidentally shot Sayid's girlfriend Shannon, well tonight the islanders elected her Vice President. Took me a sec to get the Dick Channey correlation. Lame, but how cool to hear her name while typing about her.

[Leigh]

*shakes head at Jimmy Kimmel*

But yeah I did the same thing, I got so excited to see MR filling up most of the promo that I totally didn't pay attention to what was being said.

Here's a transcript of the promo Aimz:

(shows Locke)
Locke: "We got a serious problem."
(shows Ana)
Ana: "Does Jack know your comin to me with this?"
(shows Jack looking at Henry in the room)
Locke: "I don't need Jack's permission....cause right now there's a man that's in my hatch, and I want him out."
VOICEOVER: COMING UP ON LOST (while showing Ana running)
(shows Henry, then Ana with him)
Ana: "You draw up that map, I'll find your balloon."
(shows Ana handing map to Sayid and Charlie)
Charlie: "What if the map is wrong?"
(shows Henry looking scared)
Henry: "They'll crucify me."
(shows Ana kneeling down pulling her hair back. She's next to a sitting Sayid and sleeping Charlie in the middle of the dark jungle by a fire. Shows Sayid gazing creepily into the fire.)
Sayid: "Once we find out he is one of them, something will have to be done."
(shows Ana looking serious)
(shows Sun looking like she's gonna pass out or be sick or something and Bernard and Rose are near her)
Rose: "Honey, are you alright?"
Sun: "I'm ok."
(shows Sawyer and Sun)
Sun: "Sawyer. I need a pregnancy test."
VOICEOVER: LOST, WEDNESDAYS 9/8 CENTRAL

That's it. Totally cool promo. :)

[ActionAimz]

Leigh you Rock!!!!


I love love the promo. I can't wait. :) :) :) :)

First of all. I am so giddy that Locke goes to Ana to solve this problem. He just wants to end this thing with Henry. Sayid, Jack, Eko -- no progress. Ana -- now we're getting somewhere. :)

I've already said what I need to say about Jack. Hmph.:shifty: But I am glad Ana is still showing loyalty to him by at least asking if he knows Locke is coming to her. It's smart of her too, that she understands the dynamic between Locke and Jack and doesn't want to get caught in the middle of their pissing contest.

What's up with Charlie, so Sayid is his best friend now? LOL. And he's sleeping while Ana and Sayid are plotting too. Funny.

"Sayid gazes creepily into the fire" LOL

I wonder why Ana is sprinting down the beach like that.

Finally Sayid and Ana working together is so intriguing considering the circumstances. :love: Sayid is thinking he's gonna have to kill Henry:blank:

[Yariene]

Charlie is sleeping? I didn't even notice that.

About Henry Gale and Ana: Of course she could be being nice to Henry to work him, to get some info. But also think she's being nice to him because of her involvement on what happened Nathan. Maybe she doesn't want that situation to occur again.

[Grhmlz]

:nod: Yes, I agree Yariene. Ana is smart and she might be playing the "i'll sympathize with you" card to weed information out of Henry; however, i definitely believe that she is trying to be more careful after the Nathan incident. Nathan was suspicious no doubt but it wasn't enough to guarantee that he was one of the "Others." Like Nathan, if Henry comes across as supicious, it could be tied completely to something else.

Okay, i'm probably in the minority saying this, but i'm not going to blame this one on Jack. Yes, the guy has made mistakes (and i definitely feel he should make some more serious attempts to include Ana in what's happening); however, i'm getting fed up with Locke here. While i'm happy that Ana will finally be discovering that Henry is in the hatch, Locke is ticking me off because he clearly has his own agenda here as well. Locke had no intentions of ever going to Ana with this information until Henry pulled a fast one with a "mind manipulation technique" over Locke. Locke's use to wielding that kind of power through game-playing and he is disturbed that someone else got to him like that. So, now he decides to approach Ana and tell her he wants this guy out of HIS hatch??? That seems, to me, to based more off of a personal agenda rather than getting anything accomplished. Jack did nothing to him in this particular situation yet he's going on the defensive? Why, because he feels like he's living in the shadow of Jack