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Gibey
04-24-2008, 10:04 PM
He seemed very heroic in this episode... Loved him saving Claire and taking charge of what was left of Locke's group.

Anahana
04-24-2008, 10:06 PM
Loved his threat about what would happen if any harm came to Hugo as well.

markdlg
04-24-2008, 10:08 PM
Sawyer and Claire were featured more in this episode than in the rest of the season...

LimelightQueen
04-24-2008, 10:09 PM
I loved Sawyer in this episode. He is growing up so much. He was positively selfless in this episode.

KAHANA
04-24-2008, 10:10 PM
so nice about hurley, yay 4 sawyer being a badass with a heart of gold

pigface
04-24-2008, 10:11 PM
I think they are making Sawyer a more heroic and more likable character so that it will have a bigger impact when they kill him. I'm just guessing though.

Misty Rose
04-24-2008, 10:11 PM
I knew he had it in him. I loved his remark about "if you hurt one curly hair on his head I will kill you" :w00t:

Emily34
04-24-2008, 10:11 PM
"If you touch one curly hair on his head..."

Sawyer was awesome :cool:

LimelightQueen
04-24-2008, 10:14 PM
I think they are making Sawyer a more heroic and more likable character so that it will have a bigger impact when they kill him. I'm just guessing though.

Oh, I really hope you're wrong.

mountain dew
04-24-2008, 10:15 PM
I hope they don't kill Sawyer. He was lucky tonight. I liked the part where he watched 3 extras die like dominos. It wasn't supposed to be funny, but it was in a way.

shashakeit013
04-24-2008, 10:16 PM
I thought it was so sweet when Claire came back out with Aaron after she had been laying down (I guess) and he said, "you okay sweetheart?" but not in his usual sarcastic way. in a cute way.

and it actually kind of made me want them to hook up. :D

Count2Five
04-24-2008, 10:16 PM
He seemed very heroic in this episode... Loved him saving Claire and taking charge of what was left of Locke's group.

I agree. Hopefully this is the beginning of a turnaround in his character.

villana81
04-24-2008, 10:22 PM
Oh, I really hope you're wrong.

me too!

He was awesome in this episode, i'm so happy he saved Claire, and how he was protecting Hurley, awwww he's really his friend.
I love the remark badass with a heart of gold, so true!
;)

Danielle Marie
04-24-2008, 10:22 PM
I have to agree with you all 100%. I love how much Sawyer's character has grown. You can tell that he truely loves and cares about these people so much that he risks his life to save and protect them. Sawyer is showing his true self though his actions and I believe that these are the qualities that make him a man. If only Kate could see him now... ( Sorry, Inner Skater is coming out)

As far as Sawyer's possible death...well, I hope that is non existen if not at the very end of the show it's self. Let's face it....love him or hate him he does bring something special and unique to the show that brings us back season after season...

Count2Five
04-24-2008, 10:31 PM
I honestly see Sawyer having a big on-island story that will carry him to the last season probably. I don't think we can say if he'll be killed off or not- it's too hard with a show like this. But I think he'll make it to at least the very end.

LimelightQueen
04-24-2008, 10:37 PM
I love Sawyer and I can't understand why the producers aren't giving him his dues. I want another Sawyer episode! We haven't had one since the beginning of season 3!

Anahana
04-24-2008, 10:39 PM
Unfortunately the writers for this show seem to love to kill off characters once they've finally reached a point where they have learned to be selfless and shown their heroic side. Let's just hope they decide to go against their own norm and let Sawyer live.

KAHANA
04-24-2008, 10:39 PM
I love Sawyer and I can't understand why the producers aren't giving him his dues. I want another Sawyer episode! We haven't had one since the beginning of season 3!

I agree. altho we've seen his past and im assuming he doesnt make it off the island. they'll probably wait a little while b4 showing us what happens to the people who are left behind (if any are)

Danielle Marie
04-24-2008, 10:40 PM
Yes, I agree...
We do need another Sawyer episode.
My thinking is that perhaps his episode was one of the ones to get cut because of the strike and that his story will be taken care of in season 5

Count2Five
04-24-2008, 10:41 PM
While Sawyer has acted heroicly in this episode, I don't see him fully redeemed- as many of the castaways arent yet. I don't see him dying anytime soon.

kayla
04-24-2008, 10:42 PM
I thought it was so sweet when Claire came back out with Aaron after she had been laying down (I guess) and he said, "you okay sweetheart?" but not in his usual sarcastic way. in a cute way.

and it actually kind of made me want them to hook up. :D

Yes, give in to the Conmama. :p :giggle:

But, yeah, Sawyer was amazing in this episode. I squealed like a little fangirl at all the scenes with Claire and it was so adorable how he was protective of Hurley as well. :)

Gibey
04-24-2008, 10:43 PM
They can't kill Sawyer until the last season. It's unthinkable, he's one of the fans top five favorites easily, particularly in the female demographic. I don't think anyone should be worried about his character until the end of season six, where I actually think fans of his should be very worried. :p

Anahana
04-24-2008, 10:43 PM
While Sawyer has acted heroicly in this episode, I don't see him fully redeemed- as many of the castaways arent yet. I don't see him dying anytime soon.

I hope you're right!

Count2Five
04-24-2008, 10:49 PM
They can't kill Sawyer until the last season. It's unthinkable, he's one of the fans top five favorites easily, particularly in the female demographic. I don't think anyone should be worried about his character until the end of season six, where I actually think fans of his should be very worried. :p

ITA- I think he's one of the "safe" ones until then.

Fone Bone 2001
04-24-2008, 10:52 PM
I loved Sawyer in this episode. He is growing up so much. He was positively selfless in this episode.

Yeah, now that he's got nothing left to live for (his life-long goal of vengeance having been achieved), he's clearly very willing to die for his friends.

I think they are making Sawyer a more heroic and more likable character so that it will have a bigger impact when they kill him. I'm just guessing though.

I think you're probably right.

Frankly, I'll be more pissed when (if?) they kill off Jin than Sawyer. If one of them has to go - and neither should have to - then it should be Sawyer. I love Sawyer, but no one is depending on him like Sun and Ji Yeon are (would have been?) on Jin.

RulerJD
04-24-2008, 10:55 PM
Sawyer is an A-team member (Jack, Kate, Locke, Sayid, Saywer), and they're all safe from death until possibly the very end of the series, so theories on Sawyer's character being built up so that his death is more tragic, well, i hope not.

Sawyer seemed kind of weird to me though, almost overly hostile. why would he be so adament about hurley coming with him? why threaten to kill locke if hurley gets hurt? i mean, i guess sawyer is developing a more sensitive/heroic side, and i don't mind that, but again, it seemed weird for him.

Count2Five
04-24-2008, 11:03 PM
Sawyer seemed kind of weird to me though, almost overly hostile. why would he be so adament about hurley coming with him? why threaten to kill locke if hurley gets hurt? i mean, i guess sawyer is developing a more sensitive/heroic side, and i don't mind that, but again, it seemed weird for him.

I think it had something to do with the fact that Ben obviously gambled with his own daughter's life and greatly miscalculated, yet Locke is still trusting and following him. Sawyer obviously wants nothing more to do with Ben, thus nothing more to do with Locke if Locke is tied to Ben. He was just protecting Hurley so he didn't possibly suffer the same fate as Alex, as he would only be used to find Jacob's cabin anyway.

xgirlnxd
04-24-2008, 11:09 PM
Sawyer seemed kind of weird to me though, almost overly hostile. why would he be so adament about hurley coming with him? why threaten to kill locke if hurley gets hurt? i mean, i guess sawyer is developing a more sensitive/heroic side, and i don't mind that, but again, it seemed weird for him.
I don't think it was weird. Their friendship has been building since the middle of season 3. Sawyer has finally learned that it's not every man for himself, he's caring for others. I think he threatened to kill Locke if anything happened to Hurley because Locke was the wacko that convinced them that in order to survive they needed to follow him. And ever since they did things just got worse and it appears that Locke is more willing to align himself with Ben than with the people he crashed on the island with, which is something Sawyer simply won't do.

Anyways, I agree that Sawyer was pretty awesome in this episode. I have been disappointed over the lack of him (and Claire) in the first part of the season so I hope they've got some good stuff coming up for him.

Now&Forever
04-24-2008, 11:33 PM
me too!

He was awesome in this episode, i'm so happy he saved Claire, and how he was protecting Hurley, awwww he's really his friend.
I love the remark badass with a heart of gold, so true!
;)

ITA with you both! :w00t:Our James was a total kickass Hero in this epi! :giggle::DAnd the will loose tons of fans if they kill him off so the writers better not be that stupid.:mad:

Sacred Knight
04-24-2008, 11:37 PM
Sawyer was just simply badass the entire episode. I love how he's finally just dropped the entire act of "I care about you guys deep down but I won't show it" and now he's risking his life to save Claire from a blown up house and making threats should any harm come to Hurley. Love it.

skynectar2005
04-25-2008, 12:00 AM
I think they are making Sawyer a more heroic and more likable character so that it will have a bigger impact when they kill him. I'm just guessing though.

i totally agree...you know sawyer is going to die before the show is over so they are just making it so everyone who didn't like him for being such a jerk before are going to start liking him...and then they will kill him.

octavia
04-25-2008, 12:54 AM
i totally agree...you know sawyer is going to die before the show is over so they are just making it so everyone who didn't like him for being such a jerk before are going to start liking him...and then they will kill him.
**covers ears and screams: la la la la la**

Crusoe2k1
04-25-2008, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pigface View Post
I think they are making Sawyer a more heroic and more likable character so that it will have a bigger impact when they kill him. I'm just guessing though.
Oh, I really hope you're wrong.


Oh, I really hope you're wrong.

I second that. Enough with killing off strong characters. Sawyer and Jin are two of my fav characters who are active. Dont get me started about Charley.

Anywho, Sawyer definitely must come to the forefront.

jul26400
04-25-2008, 05:58 AM
he took time for becoming the hero he's always been! i'm proud of him! sawyer the best!

pshkbb
04-25-2008, 06:51 AM
personally, I think they are allowing Sawyer character to grow so that when the oceanic 6 leave the island they leave Sawyer as the leader (the way Jack has been in the past). I think they are showing that he has strong connection to his fellow survivors and now that he has has rid himself of his father issue (sort-of) he now has nothing else driving him and thus needs something to live for and to drive him.

DEJAVU*
04-25-2008, 07:18 AM
I think they are making Sawyer a more heroic and more likable character so that it will have a bigger impact when they kill him. I'm just guessing though. *cries* please never mention THOSE words together :(

soulmeetsbody00
04-25-2008, 07:23 AM
I don't even like sawyer that much and I loved him in this ep.

scatterbrain
04-25-2008, 07:50 AM
what if he gets jack's "role" as a leader while the oceanic six are back to the real world?

So nice to see Sawyer back :D

Foxy's_Lady
04-25-2008, 08:58 AM
what if he gets jack's "role" as a leader while the oceanic six are back to the real world?

So nice to see Sawyer back :D

That would be cool :nod: I think that's what is gonna happen.
I really loved saywer at this eppy!!Finally Sawyer away from Kate strong and ready to protect everyone!!( Claire :love:)
I hope we'll see more of this Sawyer ;)

Backpack
04-25-2008, 09:48 AM
personally, I think they are allowing Sawyer character to grow so that when the oceanic 6 leave the island they leave Sawyer as the leader (the way Jack has been in the past). I think they are showing that he has strong connection to his fellow survivors and now that he has has rid himself of his father issue (sort-of) he now has nothing else driving him and thus needs something to live for and to drive him.

Well said. :D

The island has had an interesting effect on Sawyer; he gets to be someone he wasn't in the real world. I would also love to see him step into the leadership role after the O6 take off from the island. He has that ability to lead within him because he cares about these people, as we saw with Claire last night.

It's also wonderful he's like this now without Kate around to kind of "bring it out" in him. Hooray for hero-Sawyer! :w00t:

MeeMee
04-25-2008, 09:56 AM
*cries* please never mention THOSE words together :(

Same here , I won't be able to take it, I am sooooo worried about the rest of this season :worry:

he was so heroic in this episode , loved how he saved Claire and threatened Ben if something happened to Hurley ...

JStew
04-25-2008, 10:33 AM
Yes! I was happy they showed Saywers good side again. Except this time was probably the most apparent that he was a bad ass but kind hearted. I dont think they will kill off Sawyer. My guess is they are building him up to have a bigger role, just like they did with Desmond.

Also I think if they were going to kill of Sawyer then they would have in this episode. They clearly had plently of chances.... They shot 3 extras that were right beside him and he was closer to their line of vision... and not to mention they shot a rocket right infront of him when it could have been at him.

JStew
04-25-2008, 10:38 AM
what if he gets jack's "role" as a leader while the oceanic six are back to the real world?

So nice to see Sawyer back :D

I see this coming also. He already got passed on the leader role once. It was only momentarily but he has shown he can be a leader. My only question is if he is the leader then what would Desmond be? I used to think he would take over that role....

Lotusblüte
04-25-2008, 10:59 AM
Sawyer is a great leader. He would kill Locke if something happens to Hurley. Would Jack do that? I dont think so. Jack is taking care for Kate and Juliet but they dont need him.

Count2Five
04-25-2008, 12:10 PM
personally, I think they are allowing Sawyer character to grow so that when the oceanic 6 leave the island they leave Sawyer as the leader (the way Jack has been in the past). I think they are showing that he has strong connection to his fellow survivors and now that he has has rid himself of his father issue (sort-of) he now has nothing else driving him and thus needs something to live for and to drive him.

ITA, and he also needs to get rid of his "every man for himself" attitude. If his behavior in this episode is any indication, then he is on that path.

Sawyer is a great leader. He would kill Locke if something happens to Hurley. Would Jack do that? I dont think so. Jack is taking care for Kate and Juliet but they dont need him.

Jack already pulled the trigger on Locke- but there were no bullets. The man has put his life on the line for 40 + people I don't know how many times. You can hate Jack all you want, but you can't deny that if he had never become leader the castaways would have gone into chaos.

JPW
04-25-2008, 12:37 PM
My heat was beating every second at that moment I almost though Sawyer would get claire inside but end up getting shot right after.

Lost always pulls a fast one on us.

Remember Ethan's death... just when we thought we were going to get answers..... BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. Also remember Shannon's death.

I think because Sawyer probably has the biggest fanbase out of all of them. That Sawyer is going to stay to the end and be lone survivor if he stays with Locke he should be fine. Locke knows how to survive.

I'm kind of worried though Sawyer could go any second. Cause he isn't one of the 6. Neither is Claire.

With the conclusion I am coming to now is Claire gets shot is hurt pretty badly.. Sawyer manages to get her back to the beach... Jack is however sick with his stomach ache.... Claire unfortunately dies. Kate takes custody of Aaron and Jack feels uneasy because of this. He could do anything to save Claire.
And that is why he can't see Aaron in Kate's future.

I think they are trying to make it up to us because they are disappointed with Sawyer not being part of the oceanic 6.

the gloaming
04-25-2008, 01:46 PM
Actually sawyers actions at the end of the episode kind of annoyed me. I
was thinking team locke are happy to stay on the island for now knowing they won't get rescued because they have nice safe houes to stay in. Especially when someone has a BABY to look after!

Okay one house got destroyed and another got a bit busted up but suddenly sawyer decides that everyone (assuming that all the non main characters of team locke were conveniently killed) should go back and live on the beach because he thinks locke is wierd. Well gee he just saw the giant smoke monster called by ben.

This really made no sense to me, it was an illogical plot development like kate saying, oh I am sour from my little soap opera so I'm just going back to the beach. The difference between living in the houses or surviving on the beach HUGE. The only logical reason for someone to change their accomodation would be their view on whether they are getting rescued or want to leave changes.

I thought the fact that people from miles crew are dangerous has been proved to sawyer, so his position should be even stronger now?

thelittlethings
04-25-2008, 02:12 PM
I look at Sawyer in this episode in two ways, which were both discussed.

1. He's being all heroic and awesome because he will be the new Jack once everyone is gone and "peace" is restored back to the island.

2. He's being all heroic, awesome, and more likeable to make his "death" more emotional. They could kill him off while is risking his life to save anothers. A total non typical Sawyer move, making all that more effective for viewers.

I'm going with #1. But then again, Sawyer is just all over awesome so there's really no need to justify his actions anyway. Plus he's gorgeous and his heroic appeal in this episode made him stand out even more. :heart::heart:

Lokomotiv
04-25-2008, 02:43 PM
I have mixed feelings about it. I loved heroic!Sawyer, and especially during the action scenes where he flipped a table and ducked behind it. I love that he saved Claire, I hope they get more scenes together. I love how he got protective over Hurley and Claire, but I cringed inwardly when he called her sweetheart. I think it's weird everytime he openly shows affection for someone, like Kate, but he and Claire has barely gotten any scenes together the past seasons. I believe he has a soft spot for her, seing how she is a mother, and young.

fabioluci
04-25-2008, 03:35 PM
awesome!! appears to be in charge of claire&baby new sheriff for the town:)

Lizstique
04-25-2008, 04:20 PM
I totally LOVED Sawyer in this ep! So protective of Claire and Hurley! :w00t:

Maera
04-25-2008, 06:04 PM
Sawyer was almost too caring in this episode!:pHis character is evolving rapidly..He got me like that :eh::eh::eh:
i did't even consider the possibility of his dying though..(Of course hi is my favorite along with kate:o)
I believe the purpose of this change is -as some of you also thought-to make him the next 'leader' when the six leave the island..Not sure what there will be left to lead though:D
Also he may be forced to make some sucrifice when it comes to who will leave the island...So the are trying to justify his actions...Just a thought

Lotusblüte
04-25-2008, 08:59 PM
Oh I dont hate Jack. I think hes doing the best he can do and I ship Jack and Juliet. The first two seasons hes my favourite character. Hes caring for the group as a leader but I wish he would show more interest in every single person. Hurley and Claire are in the other group now but they are his friends (?)and I thought he would be concerned about Hurley. And I expected a better reaction when he realized Charlies death. I thought Hurley was close to Jack in Season 1. Its gone. Sawyer isnt a leader now but he is a friend. So I think Jack should be a friend sometimes and not just the leader.

(Sorry for my english. I am not english but I am doing my best and i found the thread interesting :D )

ekein
04-25-2008, 09:13 PM
they won't kill off sawyer, he is $$$$ for the show! In my fantasy, all the other main characters are still alive on the island, even Clare and Jin!

dano81818
04-25-2008, 09:19 PM
I think they are making Sawyer a more heroic and more likable character so that it will have a bigger impact when they kill him. I'm just guessing though.

i felt like the did that w/ jin.

mysterygirl
04-25-2008, 10:41 PM
I loved Sawyer in this episode. Just so normally interacting and playing board games with his friends, yelling at others to get back in so they won't get shot, trying to save Claire.. it's like he's okay now, overcome his inner demons, which I love. He's come a long way.

markdlg
04-25-2008, 11:04 PM
I love how he got protective over Hurley and Claire, but I cringed inwardly when he called her sweetheart. I think it's weird everytime he openly shows affection for someone, like Kate, but he and Claire has barely gotten any scenes together the past seasons.

This shows how far he has gotten, he loves these people and finally is not afraid to admit it.

arwencat8
04-26-2008, 06:28 AM
I hope they don't kill off Sawyer. Who knows maybe this thing will start looking like a soap. Maybe they will get in a time machine and bring all the dead back; who knows. But here is my theory. The producers are fleshing out the deep layers of Sawyer's character structure for the viewers because I think that they are going to allow us to glimpse his soul. I dabble with writing and this can be a technique that is used to bring a character to a defining moment. I believe Sawyer will be the one that keeps Aaron safe. Remember how Aaron would always calm down at the sound of Sawyer's voice? So, from the clues I've picked up near the end of "Eggtown", this is the scenario that keeps playing out in my head. (This scenario may all be a delusion too)

Throughout the story Sawyer has been shaped and defined is through his interactions with other characters, the responses his environmental and personal challenges and through his with 'self'. We have learn about a him through the isolated views of the other players. It is analagous to the 'Blind Man and Elephant' motif. We have been collecting the puzzle pieces of Sawyer. We have learned that he presents a tough exterior out of the self preservation from his greatest fear; emotional attachment. Whether in rage or intimacy his emotional investments in both have left him vulnerable. The goal of a story is to show us that the character changes in a way that is diverse from their nature. I feel that we are at the point in Sawyer's storyline. So, I believe Claire is going to be the one that sees the whole elephant. I think since she is an archetype for purity she will be the one that will reveal Sawyer's essense to him... the part of himself that he cannot see. I think that Sawyer, Claire and Aaron will be somewhere in the jungle isolated from the rest of the group. I think Claire will point out to Sawyer she understands why he adopted the bad guy facade... because to care is to risk making a change in your life or the lives of others, then having to live with the unpredictability of the outcome. Maybe Claire and/or Sawyer will be wounded in some way. I picture this scene being very poinant with the actors using an economy of words. Sawyer may have to face the wrenching decision to leave Claire behind and to put Aaron first. He will protect the baby and probably stumble out of the jungle and die giving Aaron over to Kate. Sacrificing himself in his vulnerability. Giving a baby to the woman he loves and giving a child a chance for survival. In other words, redemption.

Lizzie xo
04-26-2008, 09:27 AM
I completely loved Sawyer in this episode.

His protectiveness of Claire really showed how much he's grown in character, the more i think about it the more i realise it. He could of died easily out there, but he insisted on going to rescue her. He might of done that in season 1 maybe, but only because he had nothing else to live for. Now i'd think he did it because he did care about her, and felt the need to make sure she was safe. All the little touches and thing he said to her that episode really showed how protective he felt of her.

As for Hurley, i think he sees him as kind of his younger brother. He always seems to make fun of the guy and take the mick, but if someone tried to take advantage of or hurt him, then he would kill them. I loved that line to Locke and Ben at the end, just so good to show he cared.:)

fallingslowly
04-26-2008, 09:37 AM
I really loved saywer at this eppy!!Finally Sawyer away from Kate strong and ready to protect everyone!!( Claire :love:)
I hope we'll see more of this Sawyer ;)

Oh, I totally agee with you. I have not been particuarly happy with Sawyer's actions this season but this episode redeemed him for me. I was pretty shocked to see a heroic and selfless side come out of him like that, I wasn't really expecting it! He completely rocked this episode!

It's not very often we've seen him risk so much for the welfare of others. It was refereshing to see him on screen with a purpose other than something to do with Kate and the love triangle! :rolleyes: He's come a long long way from his season 1 days when he refused to give his medical supply up and Sayid ended up torturing him. He seems to have overcome his demons, to some degree, and I'm pleased to see they're finally developing his character in a good way. I thought it was really admirable of him for facing up to Locke and Ben and refusing to leave Claire like that, but I don't think it was romantically inclined, although I did find myself squeeing at the "are you alright sweetheart?" to Claire, because it was sweet how sincerely he meant it, cause we're so used to seeing sarcastic Sawyer. Yeah, so it was a little ridiculous with him being seemingly protected from the fire of bullets while all the meat socks went down, but he's Sawyer so what do you expect. They're not gonna go killing him off at this point. I think he was prepared to put his life on the line for Claire because she's a mother and Aaron needs her.

I loved the scene where Locke had him at gun point over wanting Hurley to come with him and Ben - "if you so much as hurt one curly hair on his head" :giggle: I was really happy the writers tried to put across that Sawyer did care for his fellow losties and that when the situation calls for it he will be the one to protect others. :love: I could see him taking over Jack's place as leader when the oceanic 6 leave too. I really hope this Sawyer will be staying, and continue to grow, cause this one is so much better. ;)

Xxsawye_refugexX
04-26-2008, 10:09 AM
I LOVED sawyer this episode ! For once he was the hero of the show! It doesnt happen very often with jack always getting the credit of everything !
Sawyer was so kind and caring.....he saved claire and risked his life to do that.

He was so protective over Hugo and i loved his " you harm so much as one hair on his curly head...ill kill you " lol :p
Just think of how much sawyer's character has changed...in season one he wouldn't have given a damn about anyone other than himself. Now he cares for all his friends...and is willing to put his own life at risk for them :)

I really hope that kate will eventually see how he is so much more than a hero than she realises.

People may say that they are making sawyer's character soppy but I don't think so. Sawyer is still macho, agressive when he wants to be, but on top of that he also has a kinder, caring heart and speaks with emotion now. I think he is now an even better character that the bad - ass sawyer before... The bad - ass guy hasnt gone completely but its so nice to see a more human side to him...to see him talk with his heart and eyes, instead of always with his gun.
And in reverse to him is Locke...who used to be so different, and now he is pulling his gun out every minute to bribe and threaten someone :eh:

Sawyer has always been a wonderful character on this show...and I hope his character will always remain this way. I vow that the day sawyer dies...will be the day Lost will come to a dead halt for me. I hope i never see that day soon :(

sylvia
04-26-2008, 10:51 AM
I hope they don't kill off Sawyer. Who knows maybe this thing will start looking like a soap. Maybe they will get in a time machine and bring all the dead back; who knows. But here is my theory. The producers are fleshing out the deep layers of Sawyer's character structure for the viewers because I think that they are going to allow us to glimpse his soul. I dabble with writing and this can be a technique that is used to bring a character to a defining moment. I believe Sawyer will be the one that keeps Aaron safe. Remember how Aaron would always calm down at the sound of Sawyer's voice? So, from the clues I've picked up near the end of "Eggtown", this is the scenario that keeps playing out in my head. (This scenario may all be a delusion too)

Throughout the story Sawyer has been shaped and defined is through his interactions with other characters, the responses his environmental and personal challenges and through his with 'self'. We have learn about a him through the isolated views of the other players. It is analagous to the 'Blind Man and Elephant' motif. We have been collecting the puzzle pieces of Sawyer. We have learned that he presents a tough exterior out of the self preservation from his greatest fear; emotional attachment. Whether in rage or intimacy his emotional investments in both have left him vulnerable. The goal of a story is to show us that the character changes in a way that is diverse from their nature. I feel that we are at the point in Sawyer's storyline. So, I believe Claire is going to be the one that sees the whole elephant. I think since she is an archetype for purity she will be the one that will reveal Sawyer's essense to him... the part of himself that he cannot see. I think that Sawyer, Claire and Aaron will be somewhere in the jungle isolated from the rest of the group. I think Claire will point out to Sawyer she understands why he adopted the bad guy facade... because to care is to risk making a change in your life or the lives of others, then having to live with the unpredictability of the outcome. Maybe Claire and/or Sawyer will be wounded in some way. I picture this scene being very poinant with the actors using an economy of words. Sawyer may have to face the wrenching decision to leave Claire behind and to put Aaron first. He will protect the baby and probably stumble out of the jungle and die giving Aaron over to Kate. Sacrificing himself in his vulnerability. Giving a baby to the woman he loves and giving a child a chance for survival. In other words, redemption.

I actually really like your idea (though I certainly don't want to see Sawyer dead with two whole seasons still to go :(, and nor do I want Claire to die, but I guess she must do or else how do you explain the future). But it'd make fabulous drama! :giggle: - I love melodrama! Also, someone else mentioned the Claire bit without Sawyer's possible death and that'd certainly explain Jack's inability to see Aaron in the future - he'd remind him too much of Claire and his inability to save her (and would probably also be a reminder of Sawyer?)

I have to say my cynical side feels as though the lovely way Sawyer is being written, while I appreciate it does set him up for potential death. But, I can't really see why they would kill him now with so much time to go (though I can definitely see him not making it to the end). The only way I can see him dying soon would be potentially if Lost moves pretty much completely off island by the end of this season. Do the oceanic 6 get off the island this season? I don't know.

Equally the leader thing is possible and would be nicer, as Sawyer would still be around. He's made it clear that he certainly wouldn't leave the island by choice anyway.

As for both Claire and Sawyer's potential deaths, I am somewhat confused. Last episode Michael couldn't kill himself because the island wouldn't let him. Locke survived a shooting that should likely have been life threatening. But also, Claire survived being blown up where the house completely vanishes pretty much without a scratch and Sawyer has been injured more than anyone yet is still alive and kicking. It seems a little weird to be able to easily kill either of them when they both seem to have survived against the odds. How does all of this fit in?

Anyway, I liked Sawyer in this episode of course. I kept thinking he ought to have been given a Super Sawyer! tee-shirt!! :giggle::rolleyes::D

afarsea
04-26-2008, 10:57 AM
The only way I can see him dying soon would be potentially if Lost moves pretty much completely off island by the end of this season. Do the oceanic 6 get off the island this season? I don't know.


I agree with this. And I haven't read any spoilers, so this is just my opinion, but I think we will see them get off the Island this season. I think in future seasons we will see them go back.

My guess (hope!) is that Sawyer lives but is stranded on the Island when the 6 get off. I can definitely see him dying before the end of the series, but I hope it won't be until very near the end. His character is so interesting and adds so much to the ensemble cast that I can hardly imagine the show without him.

SKaN0n56
04-26-2008, 06:21 PM
I loved Sawyer in this episode! :p He was very Jack-ish without the annoying "I'm a doctor so you guys should all follow me." aura. He really has changed throughout his time on the island. :w00t:

spongebobs
04-26-2008, 06:29 PM
Can anyone see the Sawyer claire thing going on?? Is it just me?

Island_Dreamer
04-26-2008, 10:42 PM
Thank goodness Sawyer stepped in and went and saved Claire. They almost left her for dead.

forget me not
04-27-2008, 07:09 PM
Sawyer is the most evolved character in the series and i like his transformation very much.It's like he was haunted and once he got rid the of the ghosts of his past he was able to put his shields down and bring out the goodness in him...

arwencat8
04-27-2008, 11:27 PM
I don't see a Sawyer/Claire ship for these reasons.

True, in the beginning of the series Sawyer was a self-centered rake but he has been evolving from that start for a while. As I said in a previous post Sawyer is insecure about commitment. So the cage scene was a significant turning point in his character development. As he ponders the possibility that his time is thin we see Sawyer turn to glass as makes an emotional commitment to Kate out of intimate respect and not self- gratification.

I don't think the producers are putting this much energy into evolving Sawyer's character to drop him back into his former status. I believe that Sawyer is going to have a special relationship with Claire and it will be of a spiritual nature. I also believe that the Sawyer we see now would not desecrate the special essence that existed between Claire and Charlie. I do think that Sawyer is moving toward his defining moment. If I were writing to show why Sawyer would selflessly face a string of arduous events to save Claire it would be because of Aaron. Sawyer doesn't want Aaron to lose his mother because he knows what it meant to lose his.

Katowyn
04-29-2008, 05:17 PM
That's true. I don't really believe in a Sawyer/Claire romantic relationship. Just a super-adorable close friendship one! (I went all fangirl-y inside when he called her "sweetheart".) I love it when Sawyer shows everyone he really does care. "If you hurt one hair on his curly head..."! That's just too cute. XD

<3 Sawyer!

abblette
05-04-2008, 04:58 PM
I loved sawyer in this episode, it just really showed you how much he does really care about the friends he has made, even though he doesnt show it much

thelionspride
05-04-2008, 05:43 PM
I thought it was hilarious.

pax
07-04-2008, 02:40 AM
I think Sawyer is safe for a while, likely 'til late in the last season.

While we're seeing a transformation in Sawyer -- who really is getting a chance to be HIMSELF for the first time since he took the identity of the man he blamed for his parents' death. but i think that transformation is just beginning, and that, like charlie briefly going back to heroin before finally kicking it, we'll see some of the old Sawyer emerge from time to time. So without the full `redemption' that the island seems to demand, Sawyer is around for a while.

Not to mention his demographic among female viewers, lol

In the broader picture, i see a lot in Sawyer that is similar to the Larry Underwood character in Stephen King's `The Stand,' a book that the producers referenced early in the series. Larry was a reluctant hero who had the steel inside him burnished by events in a new world before finally playing his heroic -- and fatal -- role in the end.