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standard black
11-12-2006, 11:43 PM
From my time on the board it, i have noticed a tendacny fot Skaters to also ship Elizabeth with jack in Pirates of the caribean, and jaters to ship her with will. Also, note the similarities between will and jack and sawyer and sparrow.

So i just want to see if this is generally true,b/c if it is, it imo says that most of us are attracted to a certain type of relationship: the "hero" or the "bad boy".

Just want to see if this has any weight or if im just crazy.

does what i am asking make any sense to people?

javery
11-13-2006, 12:21 AM
Yep, this applies to me! I'm a jater and I also ship Will and Elizabeth! :D

LilChristinePace
11-13-2006, 03:25 AM
No. I'm a Skater, and I ship Will/Elizabeth, even if I do feel like tearing off ...ehem..no name's mentioned. I'm just a tinsy bit mad about the end of DMC that's all...

ashhead
11-13-2006, 03:34 AM
Nope, I'm a Skater, and I don't think I should have to choose between Will/Elizabeth or Jack/Elizabeth, I think she should have both. People should learn to share.

i-love-drose
11-13-2006, 06:28 AM
I DOnT KNOW!!! I'm a jater, but i can't make up my mind ho she should be with...but i generally veer towards will/elizabeth but i'm not going to vote as i practically ship both will/elizabeth and jakc/elizabeth.

i just can't wait till they get their own back and start jack/will :p ;)

sylvia
11-16-2006, 09:39 AM
:giggle: looks like you were on to something ;) :D :rolleyes:

Hοelli
11-16-2006, 09:43 AM
LMAO, true in a way - both triangles and both undecided female characters bug the *** outta me ;)

javery
11-16-2006, 09:46 AM
No. I'm a Skater, and I ship Will/Elizabeth, even if I do feel like tearing off ...ehem..no name's mentioned. I'm just a tinsy bit mad about the end of DMC that's all...

I know how you feel! I felt so sorry for poor Will! :( He's so noble and good and doesn't deserve to be mistreated like that! :( I just wanted to give him a big hug! :giggle:

p.s. i-love-drose...I like your idea! I'm gonna go ship "Wack" (Will/Jack!) :giggle:

sylvia
11-16-2006, 02:23 PM
LMAO, true in a way - both triangles and both undecided female characters bug the *** outta me ;)

:giggle: - see! maybe that should've been in the criteria too - both triangles are utterly irritating i reckon fits in option 1 too. :p

jate4eva&eva
11-16-2006, 04:08 PM
this applies to me too. i ship jate and will/elizabeth. although i don't mind sparrabeth too much...*shrugs*

louise_62
11-16-2006, 04:55 PM
I voted for Will/Elizabeth and I'm a skater, but although I love the films I don't actually care who she gets with at all. I wasn't really looking at the romance side when I watched it, so maybe that's why I didn't really see anything between Jack and Elizabeth, especially on her part. And the only thing I got from him was a lust vibe. Do you think that she might get together with Jack? That would probably be more interesting actually. And I prefer Johnny Depp.

CarlaFox
11-16-2006, 09:21 PM
I'm jater but I ship Elizabeth & Jack, but just because I don't like Orlando Bloom and I love Johnny Depp. In fact I hate Elizabeth! :giggle:

I prefer to ship Jack and the rum! :nod:

Clarisse Aniston
11-17-2006, 10:18 AM
Applies to me, love Skate, love Sparrabeth!

whispervixen
11-20-2006, 09:32 PM
I'm a Jater but I ship Elizabeth with Sparrow :D .

Lela
11-25-2006, 07:48 AM
I'm a Skater And I ship for Sparrow with Elizabeth. ;)

Muffinmonster
11-26-2006, 07:45 AM
Skate and Sparrabeth :D Because i love Johnny,and Jack Sparrow :)

Caroo
11-28-2006, 07:09 AM
No... I'm a Jater and ship Elizabeth with Sparrow... :)

hollisterbabe
11-30-2006, 06:35 PM
Im 100% Jater..but I am completely for Sparrabeth..because that kiss was soo damn hot..not to mention Bloom is too girlish-looking for me..Give me some Captain Jack..I always seem to love the sjips w/ Jack or Shephard in them...Merder..Sparrabeth..Jate..hehe

Lady K.
12-02-2006, 02:03 PM
I'm a Skater but I'm rooting for Will/Elizabeth. I'm a much bigger fan of Johnny Depp than I am of Orlando Bloom (I think he's a much better actor) but something about Jack/Elizabeth in the last film seemed forced to me, maybe because I felt like Sparrowbeth was being shoved down my throat. I think I would have been O.K with it had it been a bit more subtle.

CrazySexyCool
12-02-2006, 05:30 PM
Applies to me, love Skate, love Sparrabeth!


Same here.:)

Mystical
12-10-2006, 03:25 PM
I'm a Skater, but I've always been undecided in PotC - I was a huge Will/Elizabeth shipper in COTBP, then leaned towards Jack/Elizabeth in DMC, but when I re-watchsd DMC I thought Will/Elizabeth again - I'm so confused!

jate4eva&eva
12-14-2006, 01:34 PM
I suppose it all depends whether you prefer the nicer gentleman (jack/will) or the rough and tough bad-ass (sawyer/jack) :rolleyes:

movie_luvver
12-22-2006, 09:44 PM
Hillarious thread! I know what you mean -- the characters are strangely simillar. I'm not a shipper, but I could see how this could relate. Well done for spotting it!

Lostbeth
12-25-2006, 04:44 PM
I love Sparrow but he is a Alone guy. Good for a flirt. Just like Sawyer.

So yes I ship Jate and Liz & Will :nod:

emma4713
01-06-2007, 03:12 PM
So i just want to see if this is generally true,b/c if it is, it imo says that most of us are attracted to a certain type of relationship: the hero or the underdog.


i don't think sawyer and sparrow are really the underdog. i think they're more complicated that jack and will, a little bit more messed up :) but not necessarily the underdog.

Foxy's_Lady
01-19-2007, 02:20 PM
The thing with me is that i HATE Elisabeth so i don't want her either with Willy or Sparrow...Though IF i had to choose i would choose Willy and Elisabeth...Leave Sparrow to me:giggle: Oh and i am a Jater ;)

Natih
01-20-2007, 12:13 AM
I'm a jater and i ship Elizabeth/Jack...but i have a different theory about that...in my case it's coz they're opposites...and i love that kind of relationship...that's why i find Skate so damn boring...and Jate a lot more interesting...all my favourite couples are opposites:)

gunerken
02-27-2007, 07:00 AM
I'm a Jater but I love jack sparrow and i ship Elizabeth with Sparrow...
and i want to add, i dont think that will and jack, sawyer and sparrow are really the same type... there are similarities but not the same...

Marystat
03-03-2007, 12:48 PM
I am a Skater and I have no idea who I ship Elisabeth with..I like her with both but there is something in Sparrabeth but nope Undecided in that respect for me. lol

Since there is no option for undecided I did not vote :p lol

JaTe_LuVeR_14
03-07-2007, 01:37 PM
Im a Jater, but I ship Elizabeth/Jack.

Mainly because he's hot I heart Jonny Depp.

I hate Elizabeth and I hate Will, I only watch it for Jonny, and if hes with Elizabeth we might get to see some Jonny romance. Which is always good.

StandardBlack
03-07-2007, 04:25 PM
yup, I'm a Jater and Will/Elizabeth fan. It's cool to see how that tends to work out a signifigant amount of the time (Skate/Sparrabeth and Jate/Elizawill)

I've also realized that a lot of ex-Buffy watchers (it seems like a lot of Buffy or Angel fans became Lost fans) who now ship Skate used to be Spuffy shippers (Spike and Buffy) and people who now ship Jate used to be Bangel shippers (Buffy and Angel).

Just goes to show ya that every love triangle is the same! ;)

PS. is the verdict still out on Will and Elizabeth's ship name? I've heard about 10 different ones...

amberdawn
03-12-2007, 01:59 AM
I ship Sparrabeth although I'm a Jater. Will and Elizabeth bore me to tears when they're onscreen.

I'm a jater and i ship Elizabeth/Jack...but i have a different theory about that...in my case it's coz they're opposites...and i love that kind of relationship...that's why i find Skate so damn boring...and Jate a lot more interesting
Same here

eve_x
03-12-2007, 06:37 AM
Applies for me PARTLY, I´m a skater, and I did see the chemistry with elisabeth and sparrow there, and I like them. POTC1 I didn´t think about it that way, butin 2 I fell for sparrabeth. But hey Sparrow is one hot pirate :p Will is the good guy, the guy she should be with, but sparrow is the one she´s drawn to ;) sound familiar? :giggle:

foreveritsyou
03-12-2007, 05:42 PM
This applies to me (Jate and Will/Elizabeth). Tough girl + good guy. No other way. :blank:

Oh, and I had noticed this also! I asked my sister whether or not she supported this, but she's a Skater who ships Will/Elizabeth. :shifty:

insaneirish
03-12-2007, 10:04 PM
I'm a Skater--and in the first PoTC film, I didn't ship anybody, just went where the story took me, and the Will/Elizabeth ending didn't bug me at all--though I did find Elizabeth to be a bit of a flake. So Will/Elizabeth didn't grab and hold me--but didn't bother me much, either.

Then in the 2nd film, I was doing the same thing: going where the story took me, and in the scene where Lizzie taunts Sparrow about how one day he'll prove he's a good man because he'll "want to know what it tastes like" and they nearly kiss but don't, I was on the edge of my seat going: Oh. My. God! Now *that's* an interesting pair! They grabbed me in a way she and Will never did. It was in that scene that I noticed how similar the two are in nature. Plus the bit near the end where they *do* kiss? probably one of the top ten screen kisses I have ever seen. So yes, I fit the proposed formula. :)

Oh, and way he called her "pirate" after the kiss, with so much admiration in his voice despite the fact that she'd basically trapped him (maybe because she had trapped him?)? Totally sealed it for me. Sparrabeth all the way, baby!

*Nette*
03-20-2007, 11:44 AM
Both me and my sister are Skaters and we both ship Jack/Elizabeth. :p
I think I have shipped them since the first movie but Will/Elizabeth doesn't bug me as much as Jate do (:giggle:) But I like Sparrabeth better :D

livin_4_foxy
03-23-2007, 04:02 PM
nope . i was thinking aobut that when i watched the film

but i really like jack&elizabeth . and im a REALLY hardcore jater. its just strange their ship fits . reckless and well elizabeth ... :giggle:

but skate .. for me .. doesnt at all :p

I'm a jater and i ship Elizabeth/Jack...but i have a different theory about that...in my case it's coz they're opposites...and i love that kind of relationship...that's why i find Skate so damn boring...and Jate a lot more interesting

PERFECT!! thats exactly what i meant. cause kate isnt a good girl darlings! shes a fugitive.. so i dunno how u find that good. so jack and kate , black and white , ying and yang. two opposites i find that beautiful :love:

Clarisse Aniston
03-23-2007, 05:58 PM
nope . i was thinking aobut that when i watched the film

but i really like jack&elizabeth . and im a REALLY hardcore jater. its just strange their ship fits . reckless and well elizabeth ... :giggle:

but skate .. for me .. doesnt at all :p



PERFECT!! thats exactly what i meant. cause kate isnt a good girl darlings! shes a fugitive.. so i dunno how u find that good. so jack and kate , black and white , ying and yang. two opposites i find that beautiful :love:

Well, Elizabeth ain't all good either. She did 'con' Jack and left him to die...of course, she felt guilty later, but Kate and Sawyer also feel guilty about what they did, Sawyer would never have killed that guy if he knew he wasn't the real Mr. Sawyer, and although Kate doesn't regret what she did to Wayne, she does feel guilty about it. They're not completely good, but not completely bad either. As Leah Kate said on her fic, you can't try to fit Kate and Sawyer on a black or white category, because they're neither, they are the gray.

nirkynuts
03-27-2007, 08:16 PM
I ship skate, but I prefer Elizabeth with Will... Because, really, Jack Sparrow is WAY too good for her and he belongs to himself, in the wild.

Also, the first time I watched DMC I felt like I had this Sparrabeth (or whatever) romance being shoved down my throat and didn't like the feeling at all. The second time it wasn't so bad, but Will's a great guy and deserves to be with the woman he's loved his entire life. Now that's fate! Sparrow just saw the piece of meat there (not that there's much... Keira Knightley isn't exactly a hot babe, but whatever :rolleyes: ).

Marinaevelyn
04-10-2007, 03:28 AM
I'm a jater and i ship Elizabeth/Jack...but i have a different theory about that...in my case it's coz they're opposites...and i love that kind of relationship...that's why i find Skate so damn boring...and Jate a lot more interesting...all my favourite couples are opposites:)

Exactly! :w00t: I'm a Sparrabether Jater :giggle: who seems to have a thing for guys named Jack :rolleyes:, actually for dark-eyed brunettes. :p

Evelyn Pace
04-11-2007, 07:28 AM
From my time on the board it, i have noticed a tendacny fot Skaters to also ship Elizabeth with jack in Pirates of the caribean, and jaters to ship her with will. Also, note the similarities between will and jack and sawyer and sparrow.

So i just want to see if this is generally true,b/c if it is, it imo says that most of us are attracted to a certain type of relationship: the hero or the underdog.

Just want to see if this has any weight or if im just crazy.

does what i am asking make any sense to people?

It applies to me. I'm a Skate and Sparrabeth fan. Although when I started watching lost I was a Jater and hated Skate. But the more episodes I watched the more I disliked Jack and I finally began to ship Skate. It's much hotter and Hero/Girl ships are boring. Another ship I like is Phantom/Christine.
I also noticed, that people who ship Harry/Hermione are also Will/Elizabeth and Jate shippers.

No Doubt
04-11-2007, 11:48 AM
Ehhm I don't know. I like both. I can't decide between them, first I liked Will/Elizabeth more, then after DMC I got to like Sparrabeth too. :confused:

...I also noticed, that people who ship Harry/Hermione are also Will/Elizabeth and Jate shippers.
It doesn't apply to me, I'm a Ron/Hermione and a Harry/Ginny shipper.:)

THE BLUE
05-05-2007, 11:09 AM
From my time on the board it, i have noticed a tendacny fot Skaters to also ship Elizabeth with jack in Pirates of the caribean, and jaters to ship her with will. Also, note the similarities between will and jack and sawyer and sparrow.

So i just want to see if this is generally true,b/c if it is, it imo says that most of us are attracted to a certain type of relationship: the "hero" or the "bad boy".

Just want to see if this has any weight or if im just crazy.

does what i am asking make any sense to people?


You can expand your theory as to say that Jaters are also Bangels along with being Will/Elizabeth Shippers and Skaters are also Spuffy along with being Jack/Elizabeth Shippers. Same pattern in all three couples.

standard black
05-05-2007, 03:45 PM
You can expand your theory as to say that Jaters are also Bangels along with being Will/Elizabeth Shippers and Skaters are also Spuffy along with being Jack/Elizabeth Shippers. Same pattern in all three couples.

Yeah, I have noticed that one too...

PsychodelicS
05-05-2007, 07:27 PM
This doesn't apply to me. I'm a skater, but I ship Elizabeth with Will, cause I simply don't think she fits Sparrow that well.

bookworm
05-05-2007, 09:04 PM
yup...

bad boy=fun

Drew's Destiny
05-21-2007, 07:17 PM
This does not applie to me. I certainly do see your point though and you are certainly not crazy. However I am a Skater and a Willabether (Will and Elizabeth). That being said though Skate is indeed one of my very few exceptions to that rule. I always go for good guy and usaly ship him with a good girl...well the girl who to most is considered good (not exactly sure if I still think that Elizabeth is a good girl...). In honesty I started shipping Skate in part largerly due (not only but it was a big part of why) to the fact that I was tired of my ships always sinking. I just came off of having one of my favorite soap opera ships sink due to a bad boy stealing away the good girl's heart. So to avoid that happening again I started to ship Skate. So Willabeth...that is the type of ship that I usaly ship...Skate and a few more couples are my exceptions to the rule. :D

RedRobin
06-02-2007, 11:10 AM
Yep. It applies to me. I'm a Jate and i ship Will and Elizabeth

Clarisse Aniston
06-02-2007, 10:31 PM
I can't say if I fit in the Spuffy/Bangel part of the theory because I never watched Buffy, but one thing I noticed, and I can't say that's a rule, but from what I saw, most Skaters ship Izzie/Alex, while most Jaters ship Izzie/George.

And also, I don't know if this applies to the US, but something I noticed in Brazil is that most of the Brazilian Skaters are Clois shippers (we even made our own ship name, Skclois), but I have a Skater friend who ships Clana, and she said that most of her Clana friends are Jaters...

amberdawn
06-03-2007, 12:04 AM
^^ I'm a Jater and Cloiser. :w00t:

EternalFlame
06-03-2007, 05:45 AM
I can't say if I fit in the Spuffy/Bangel part of the theory because I never watched Buffy, but one thing I noticed, and I can't say that's a rule, but from what I saw, most Skaters ship Izzie/Alex, while most Jaters ship Izzie/George.


As a jater, I definitely don't ship Izzie and George. They are too weird for me. I also don't ship Izzie and Alex (the writers are constantly ignoring this pairing I dunno why...) but I prefer them over Iz/George :)

Velvetyfox89
06-03-2007, 01:26 PM
Applies to me I'm a Jater and I most certainly ship Will and Elizabeth. Elizabeth and Jack just isn't right imo, the whole Jack/Elizabeth thing in DMC came as a nasty shock to me, I'd never seen it coming and it left me so confused.:shock: :confused: :no::blank:

Mrs.Holloway
06-10-2007, 08:02 AM
I voted Yes, although I think Will and Elizabeth is the right couple in Pirates of the Caribbean.
I don't see any future for Sparrow and Elizabeth. But I really LOVE the moments when I can see chemistry between Jack and her. And although I think Orlando Bloom is sooooooo sexy I still prefer Johnny Depp even with dirty hair and decayed teeth :D