Harry Potter movies

[ReallyLove LOST]

Harry Potter fans on the board, what do you think of the three movies put out so far to go with the books?

I think the movies for Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets are all right, but the books are better.

As for Prisoner of Azkaban, I have a lot of things I dislike about the movie version. (They even spelt Moony wrong on the Marauders Map, nevermind not even explaining who created it! :eek: ) And as much as I love Gary Oldman, he wasn't really good as Sirius. But I adore book Sirius so much no one would do him justice.

Anybody else want to share their thoughts and opinions?

[gina]

I like the movies... after I get the books out of my head. I view them as a work of fanfiction. And since JKR seems to like the movies (the third being her favorite), I have to step back and say "okay, as entertainment they are good." I hate canon nazis (their vengeance scares me), so while I prefer the books, I can't hate the movies just because they aren't exactly like them. I mean, they did provide beautiful visuals for the books, and hey -- it's a lot quicker to watch a film than to read a book when one needs a HP fix, LOL.

[ReallyLove LOST]

I like the movies... after I get the books out of my head. I view them as a work of fanfiction. And since JKR seems to like the movies (the third being her favorite), I have to step back and say "okay, as entertainment they are good." I hate canon nazis (their vengeance scares me), so while I prefer the books, I can't hate the movies just because they aren't exactly like them. I mean, they did provide beautiful visuals for the books, and hey -- it's a lot quicker to watch a film than to read a book when one needs a HP fix, LOL.

Yes, as entertainment they are good. I really enjoy Prisoner of Azkaban in movie form, even though I do complain about it. (I really don't make much sense sometimes ... ;) ) I read somewhere that some fans really hated how they had the windows of the Hogwarts Express ice over when the dementors came aboard, but I absolutely adored that! And I love the added humor.

I fear they will completely ruin Order of the Phoenix, though. Just because they would have to cut SO much to make the movie not 6 hours long. (Not that *I* would mind it being 6 hours long ...)

[gina]

OotP? Man, I'm already worried about GoF. That sucker is packed, LOL. I just feel bad for the directors who will do the 6th and 7th ones, because they are going to have such a challenge trying to wrap up the story lines. Major stuff from the first three has been left out, and sticking that in later movies without it being dumb is going to be hard.

And the ice on the window was perfect, I loved it. In a book you can describe how it's getting cold, but you have to show it in a movie.

My major beef with the movies is with Kloves. He's killing Ron, killing him!! My poor Wheazy.

[Merry]

Mmm Books. Definitely. I mean, I went to see PoA with 7 friends.
Me and a friend are absolute fans, we were soooo disappointed by this adaptation... I mean, you don't have to follow every line of the book but to us the spirit of if was betrayed. It was not "magical". It was entertaining but there was something lacking. And I don't even want to talk about the errors in the script or the weird things like "let's put the broom at the end!"... We could'nt stop laughing at some parts, you know, like "okay, I've read the books many times but I don't understand what's happening!" (like this whomping willow thing? WTH was that?)
Two other friends are fans, but not as much as us and didn't remember well the books. They loved it.
the remaining friends were totally ignorant of the HP world. At most, they saw one or two of the previous movies. To them, it was okay but they realized that they understood nothing of the plot. I had to explain all the Marauders' thing to them (who they were, who did the map, etc.) and the stag thing, etc.

The two first movies were completely good but at least it was HP.

One positive thing about PoA: the actors learnt how to play! Finally!

[IamLOST922]

The movies just do not compare. I enjoy the movies and they are entertaining but they are not that great. I've learned after the first movie to look at them only as movies and to try not to compare them to the books cause if I do that, I will be greatly disappointed.

[autumn.breeze]

Book definitely. I absolutely adore and am obsessed with the books AND the movies... but I'd pick the books above all! They're so good and imaginative and with the books you can imagine everything your own way, I like that. With the movies, you get all the imagines and sounds and etc. handed to you, but you can also see other peoples' depictions of it, so I like both of them, but like I said, books are best.

[--LOST--]

I LOVE HARRY POTTER!!! I love the books; anyone else get through JKR's door on her site yesterday? *I did* I got chapter titles from the HBP!! Want to know them?

[Tao]

I consider them seperate. The books are absolutely amazing and no amount of movie telling whether you go line for line or just capture the plot is going to do them justice. I absolutely love the books. I'm so hooked and going crazy waiting for the sixth! But I love the movies and I'm going crazying waiting for PoA on DVD and GoF on the big screen! PoA definitely being my favourite... Alfonso did what JKR asked of him... to capture the spirit of the book. And the dementors were damn cool!

[autumn.breeze]

I LOVE HARRY POTTER!!! I love the books; anyone else get through JKR's door on her site yesterday? *I did* I got chapter titles from the HBP!! Want to know them?

YES, I DID TOO!!! Ohh, I was freaking out so much, lol!! Hmm, Draco's Detour.. I love that name! What could it mean?

[Becky]

I LOOOOVED the books to death. (overly obsessed fan) and when I first saw Sorcerer's Stone I was dissapointed becuase I expected it to be *exactly* like the book was. When I realized it *couldn't* possibly have everything from the books I though it was ok for a children's kind of family movie. So I was a little softer on rating the second movie. But when i saw the third one I had two completely split opinions about it. It was done *brilliantly.* I love the effects and cinemetography was great. But I walked out of the theatre very dissapointed as well. They didn't mention ANYTHING about WHO made the Marauder's Map. Nothing! That really made me mad. I could name a lot of other things, but then I'd really take up a lot of space. So, yes, it *is* my favorite but also it's the most dissapointing.

[Becky]

I know, Draco's Detour, Spinners End and Felix Felicis!?!?!? What cane they mean! Draco's Detour sounds sehr interessieren!

[xkatsamax]

As someone who has read all of the series numerous times, and seen all of the movies, I can honestly say I like both, but the books are better. I'm a bit obsessed with Harry Potter, I'll admit (I'm almost 18 and I have Harry Potter sheets for Christ's sake...:0x) and when the books for transferred to movie form, I was ectastic. Problem was, due to time constraints, the movies lacked a lot of detail, and yet tried to be as true to the book as possible. It didn't work very well. Chris Columbus did a decent job, but his work on the first two films can't even compare to that of Alfonso Cuaron on PoA. People bitch about how it was made, and how it didn't match up with the book as well as the first two, but that is why I thought it was better. You can't make a huge book into a feature film without using creative license. Cuaron was still true to the story, but yet he made it his own. The film was shot better, and the kids seemed to have finally come into their own with their acting talents. Everything looked more realistic to be focussed around a group of teenagers. Even the costuming was better.

Gah...I love Harry Potter. I'm such a nerd.

[hannahstarr]

I LOVE the Harry Potter series. JK Rowling is a god. I've been a big fan of the books since PS/SS was first published. I think my favorite book is PoA, because Remus is just *so* cool. :D

Movie-wise, I thought Sorcerer's Stone was pretty good; I hated Chamber of Secrets; and I loved Prisoner of Azkaban, mainly because Alfonso Cuaron had such a neat twist to the story. There are a couple of things that bug me about the movies - too many to list here :p - but my main gripe is that Daniel Radcliffe cannot act. At all. I think this was especially evident in PoA, during some of the really emotional scenes. Emma Watson, is fabulous as Hermione. She had amazing acting skills.

Chris Columbus was a good director in some aspects (he kept really close to the main plot of the books, for one thing), but Cuaron did a much better job with PoA than Columbus could have done. I'm worried about GoF, though - I want it to be two movies, but that's never going to happen. I'm worried that the GoF movie is going to be really condensed and leave me with a sour feeling towards the end. And I think OotP is going to be a disaster. You CAN'T turn an 800 page book into a two-three hour movie. Unless Cuaron directs it again. :p

[kathryn_arwen]

I too enjoy the movies but because there is only sooo much one can put into a movie the books will always win, hands down. Sometimes although the movies are well made a favourite part or two might be missing because they are small parts and TPTB just don't have the time and/or resources to include them.

It's the same with LotR too, although Peter Jackson + cast and crew certainly tried their best on the trilogy. Obviously quite a few others were impressed also, considering RotK was the first Fantasy film to win the "Best Picture" Oscar. :D

[TrulyLost]

I LOVE Harry Potter :cloud9: ! I go to http://www.mugglenet.com/ everyday (siriusly) and I like both movies and books but I much prefer the books. I love to read the editorials about HP and trying to figure out hidden meanings and clues to upcoming books. BTW there is a great editorial here that talks about what the new three chapters could mean:
http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/theundergroundlake/tul08.shtml

[lovinglost27]

Another HP fan...
I visually liked PoA, but as so many pointed out, it left out a lot of deatails. I mean, A LOT, when you get right down to it. Nothing was explained about Harry's Patronus being like his dad (!), or even about HOW Sirius escaped for those who didn't know. Was it faithful to the essence of the book...*grudgingly*...yeah.
But was it faithful to JKR's sense of intricate details and innerworkings of the bigger picture? *triumphantly* NO!
The kids did great and it was a beautiful and funny film. But I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to book-to-movie adapts. Almost everything falls short of my gloriously imagined expecations. That's life. You just can't have the same depth in a movie (even a three hour one) as you can in a book.

[Tamara]

I have nitpicks with all three films, but I didn't like Cuaron's interpretation for POA of what was important to leave in and what to leave out. Then, add in the mismatched visuals (Sirius as a wolf-like dog, instead of bear-like (newfoundland or something) dog), cheesy looking werewolf, Pink-hoodie Hermione, Mexican cultural references (All the skulls would have been be fine, if we hadn't been repeatedly told that JKR wanted to preserve the "British" feel of HP by going so far as to disallow hiring non-brit actors. The set looked like a "day of the dead" holiday).

The acting is good. The adults are always amazing and the kids are improving, but I disliked the direction Hermione went. It was OC from the books. I understand early foreshadowing- we saw it at the end of COS- but this went beyond. It was like seeing Harry, Ron and... Emma. Emma CAN act, so it was disappointing to see her choose to portray Hermione more like herself (well, the one we see in her public interviews talking about sports and fashion), than like book-Hermione. This was particularly incongruous when she was in a scene with Dan or Rupert, who are really fleshing out their book character's brilliantly.

Still, on their own, they are entertaining movies. I just have to shut off my literary brain, because I already know I'll be upset about what's left out. With such HUGE books, it's inevitable. Although, I would have paid to see an HP miniseries, if they'd gone that route. :)
---Tamara

[Sawyer]

The movies have nothing on the books. I've read all the HP books at least ten times (except for the last one, which doesn't sit too well with me). The first movie they butchered, the second one was okay, but not much better. The third one . . . the ending? WTF? That was er . . . okay, I'll still watch it. I thought it was better than the other two but I didn't like how Hermione was dress. Yes, they wore muggle clothing, but jeeze, does she have to look like that? The Hermione in my mind wouldn't wear hip huggers and a hoodie that looks like it could fit my 9-year-old sister.

But I'll not ponder on my thoughts for too long or I'll say something terrible that I probably won't regret, but I'll choose not to say it all the less. Looking on the good side, Dan, Rupert, and Emma seem more comfortable in their roles in the new one. I hope they keep the trio throughout the whole series and think they'll be able to, despite other people thinking they'll be too old. Tobey Maguire's 28 and played a high school/college Peter Parker and played him wonderfully. What's stopping the trio? If they want to continue.

Great source of HP news movie or book wise: http://www.thesnitch.co.uk/site/

[ReallyLove LOST]

The movies have nothing on the books. I've read all the HP books at least ten times (except for the last one, which doesn't sit too well with me). The first movie they butchered, the second one was okay, but not much better. The third one . . . the ending? WTF? That was er . . . okay, I'll still watch it. I thought it was better than the other two but I didn't like how Hermione was dress. Yes, they wore muggle clothing, but jeeze, does she have to look like that? The Hermione in my mind wouldn't wear hip huggers and a hoodie that looks like it could fit my 9-year-old sister.

But I'll not ponder on my thoughts for too long or I'll say something terrible that I probably won't regret, but I'll choose not to say it all the less. Looking on the good side, Dan, Rupert, and Emma seem more comfortable in their roles in the new one. I hope they keep the trio throughout the whole series and think they'll be able to, despite other people thinking they'll be too old. Tobey Maguire's 28 and played a high school/college Peter Parker and played him wonderfully. What's stopping the trio? If they want to continue.

Great source of HP news movie or book wise: http://www.thesnitch.co.uk/site/

Another person who can't read Order of the Phoenix, I'm glad it's not just me. I read it twice, but the second time it took me a really long time to bring myself to read the end.

The movie image of Hermione doesn't much bother me, because I'm not fond of her character, and they can make her out to be whichever way they want in the movies and I'd still be like "Eh, I don't care." :confused:

As for them staying for all the movies, I REALLY hope they do. Not because I like them all that much, but because if they changed the actors for Harry, Ron, and Hermione, I would be so insanely pissed off because it would just change too much without them, I'd think. I don't care if they are 25 years old when the seventh book gets made into a movie, they still better be in it ... You know? :o

I can just picture myself watching the Prisoner of Azkaban movie for the 4th time tomorrow ... I'm not going to be in a movie theater surrounded by people, so I'm going to be yelling at my television like crazy at every mistake. :eek:

[Sawyer]

lol. I've already marked mistakes that I didn't catch in the theater. Like Tom referring to Hedwig as a "he". Yes, I'm insane when it comes to judging movies based on books, so sue me why don't cha?

I'm not alone then in not liking OotP. I've only read it twice too. The death was too . . . quick? One minute he was there and the next I'm thinking wha?

I'm almost dreading next November now. That's when GoF is coming out. Those people don't seriously want me to be kicked out of the theater for shouting profrane language now, do they? ^^'

[ReallyLove LOST]

lol. I've already marked mistakes that I didn't catch in the theater. Like Tom referring to Hedwig as a "he". Yes, I'm insane when it comes to judging movies based on books, so sue me why don't cha?

I'm not alone then in not liking OotP. I've only read it twice too. The death was too . . . quick? One minute he was there and the next I'm thinking wha?

I'm almost dreading next November now. That's when GoF is coming out. Those people don't seriously want me to be kicked out of the theater for shouting profrane language now, do they? ^^'

LOL! I told my aunt that today, "I don't really want to see the 4th one in theater ... I'll say too many obscene things and get kicked out." :o

It wasn't the quickness that bothered me, it was the fact that they actually did that in the first place! :eek: :( I still haven't recovered. :o

Okay, I have to go watch my DVD of Prisoner of Azkaban and yell at my television now. ;)

[--LOST--]

WOOT! PoA out today!! Heh, why didn't you guys like OotP? It was like, the best book!!

[ReallyLove LOST]

WOOT! PoA out today!! Heh, why didn't you guys like OotP? It was like, the best book!!

Oh, eep, I was misunderstood :confused: I liked Order of the Phoenix. Hell, LOVED it. I had never gotten so into a book, it was like ... non-stop excitement and greatness from the very first chapter, which completely amazed me. (It's still not better than the Prisoner of Azkaban book, though ... What can I say, I'd marry the POA book if it were possible. ;) )

It was just that Sirius is my favorite character, and well ... the events at the end of OOTP weren't too great because of that. I mean, I just watched POA movie and when Sirius was getting on Buckbeak and leaving, I started bawling because all I could think of was OOTP. :( :o


Okay, how about I be postive about the movie version of Prisoner of Azkaban? ;) Here are some things I actually do love about it:

- The windows of the Hogwart's Express freezing over. I just think that was one hell of an awesome scene.
- "The spiders, they want me to tap dance, I don't want to tap dance!" "You tell those spiders, Ron."
- When Harry goes to see Remus at the end, and he's all scratched up, and he says "I've looked worse, believe me." For some reason it just makes me smile. :confused:

[IamLOST922]

I think I understand what you mean, ReallyLOve Lost. The death was so unexplained that at first I felt major disappointment reading OotP. But, now it might be my favorite of the series.

Oh yeah, yesterday I watched PoA with a friend and at the end when Harry and Sirius are having emotional scenes she kept saying, I'm dead serious. Grr... I was trying so hard not to cry. I just can't hear that phase anymore and she knew it.

[ReallyLove LOST]

I think I understand what you mean, ReallyLOve Lost. The death was so unexplained that at first I felt major disappointment reading OotP. But, now it might be my favorite of the series.

Oh yeah, yesterday I watched PoA with a friend and at the end when Harry and Sirius are having emotional scenes she kept saying, I'm dead serious. Grr... I was trying so hard not to cry. I just can't hear that phase anymore and she knew it.

That's so mean of her. :confused: I can't even say the word 'serious' without getting choked up. No, I'm not kidding you. I'm that bad. :o

[Sawyer]

lol. At the theater my cousin and I were bawling when Sirius talked to Harry at the end and then whenever Harry found out about Sirius was his godparent and Hermione found him and he was so angry at him I felt like slapping him a good one.

As for OotP, the death wasn't the only thing that bothered me, I dunno. My favorite is POA and probably will be unless HBP or the last one can out do it, which I'm hoping one of them will. The death was too sudden, I guess I had read too many fanfics and when I finally got the book in my hands, I guess it didn't feel real or something O.o Yes I'm strange, go away ^^'

[fate__x3]

I don't know if I'm alone here but I think that PoA (the movie) was completley wrong! They didn't follow the book and they left things out! I didn't realize it that much untill I went back and read the book for a 3rd time after I saw the movie. Another thing that really bothered me was that they completley changed the setting of Hogwarts! Since when (in movies 1 & 2) was Hagrid's hut down a hill?! That bothered me so much! My favorite movie was probably the 1st so far. Though the 3rd was a really good movie the setting completley threw me off! I just couldn't stop thinking about it! :worry: I hope the 4th movie won't have a totally new setting to get used to!

[ReallyLove LOST]

Resurfacing the thread to ask a question.

(In Prisoner of Azkaban movie) The part where Harry and Lupin are on the bridge, and Lupin is talking to Harry about his parents ... Does the way Lupin talks about Lily just seem wrong to you? :confused:

Please tell me I'm not alone because I watch that scene and I get queasy. :o

[Tao]

Actually, you're not alone. In fact, I believe Kolve's suggested that Lupin was in love with Lily. Which is quite interesting because JKR said that there were clues in PoA that would happen in books 6 and 7. And that's just killing me because there are so many things in there such as the Lupin and Lily thing.

That said, I think one of the biggest things is going to be R/Hr's budding romance and Harry feeling on the outside such as it looked when Hermione turned to hug Ron when they thought Buckbeak had been executed. We've already seen that type of stuff in GoF but more in OotP.

Oh, speaking of Kolves... anyone think it'll be bad or good that he won't be doing OotP? I'm kinda divided. Without him, Hermione will stop stealing Ron's lines (as well as everyone elses) and maybe Rupert can show off his acting skills (Anyone see his movie "Thunderpants"? Not an oscar-winning movie, mind you, but Rupert is bloody brilliant in it.), because more will be given to Ron. On the other hand, Kolves and JKR seemed to really get along and he's correctly interpreted everything as said in the CoS interview. Guess we'll find out when OotP comes out in 2007. lol

[ReallyLove LOST]

Actually, you're not alone. In fact, I believe Kolve's suggested that Lupin was in love with Lily. Which is quite interesting because JKR said that there were clues in PoA that would happen in books 6 and 7. And that's just killing me because there are so many things in there such as the Lupin and Lily thing.

That's what I thought, too. When I saw that JKR said that the Prisoner of Azkaban movie kind of implied stuff that would happen in the future books. And so now I watch the movie looking for little things like that and everytime I come to that part I scream, going, "No! NO! You cannot possibly!"

And it's really, really odd because ... He never said anything to Harry about Lily in the books. So ... Dude, Kloves, where did that come from and why must you torture me? :confused: So, moving on ... (Because I honestly can't watch or think about that part, I do get sick.)

EDIT: Actually, do you think that maybe something like that would be too much for a childrens book? (Yeah, I know a lot of the stuff in HP is too much for something that's supposedly a childrens book, but this is a different kind of too much. LOL.) ... Who knows. :confused:

That said, I think one of the biggest things is going to be R/Hr's budding romance and Harry feeling on the outside such as it looked when Hermione turned to hug Ron when they thought Buckbeak had been executed. We've already seen that type of stuff in GoF but more in OotP.

Hmm ... Well, I think that JKR herself was going with the Ron/Hermione thing anyway. One of my friends who reads the books said that he hated that Ron/Hermione seemed madly in love with each other in the movie. And it's like ... That's kind of been there in the books, too. :confused: But, alas ... I have yet to see the Harry being jealous/on the outside of it. Can anyone say bizarre love triangle, maybe? ;)

Oh, speaking of Kolves... anyone think it'll be bad or good that he won't be doing OotP? I'm kinda divided. Without him, Hermione will stop stealing Ron's lines (as well as everyone elses) and maybe Rupert can show off his acting skills (Anyone see his movie "Thunderpants"? Not an oscar-winning movie, mind you, but Rupert is bloody brilliant in it.), because more will be given to Ron. On the other hand, Kolves and JKR seemed to really get along and he's correctly interpreted everything as said in the CoS interview. Guess we'll find out when OotP comes out in 2007. lol

After the complete screw-up of the Prisoner of Azkaban screenplay, whether there happened to be foreshadowings of future books or not, I jumped for joy upon finding out he was not doing Order of the Phoenix. And now I shall wait to become angry at the next screenwriter, right? ;)

[I-am-Lost]

Definitely books! Especially with book 4 and 5...they will have to cut ALOT of stuff out of the movie...and I dunno, there's no amount of special effects that can replace the experience of reading the books and imaginining all that stuff yourself...:)

[Tao]

And it's really, really odd because ... He never said anything to Harry about Lily in the books. So ... Dude, Kloves, where did that come from and why must you torture me? So, moving on ... (Because I honestly can't watch or think about that part, I do get sick.)

You know, I thought the same thing 'til I read a passage in PoA that made me think, "Well, wait a minute." It's when Sirius and Lupin reunite for the first time since Sirius was wrongly accused... when they're apologizing to each other for thinking the worse. Peter tells Lupin that he can't believe what Sirius is saying because Sirius never told Lupin about the plan and Lupin states he wouldn't have if Sirius thought he (Lupin) was the spy. It's a longshot, but I was wondering if Sirius thought that because Lupin had been in love with Lily and James won her over. Especially when you read OotP and see how Lupin kept to himself when Lily came over reacting to what James and Sirius were doing to Snape while they were at Hogwarts.

Hmm ... Well, I think that JKR herself was going with the Ron/Hermione thing anyway. One of my friends who reads the books said that he hated that Ron/Hermione seemed madly in love with each other in the movie. And it's like ... That's kind of been there in the books, too. But, alas ... I have yet to see the Harry being jealous/on the outside of it. Can anyone say bizarre love triangle, maybe?

I'm actually not talking of a love triangle. I think that Harry is afraid that he'll lose his friends. He can see the growing attraction for Ron and Hermione and it scares him. If you notice in OotP he clearly is very upset that Ron and Hermione spent so much time together without him over the summer. It's foreshadowed a lot in PoA with the buckbeak hug moment and how Harry grabs Hermione a lot when they're trying to free Sirius and Buckbeak at the end.

I never understood why anyone can't see the jealousy R/Hr have when it comes to them paying attention to others in GoF. LOL Hermione's is more subtle, but it's there. There are a few instances were it's so obvious. Like when Ron first spots Fluer, what does Hermione do? She basically rolls her eyes and acts like Ron's being an idiot and saying he's the only one when it's clear that a lot of the guys were gawking at Fluer. Then there is the comment Hermione makes when Fluer says that the Hogwarts food will make her fat. "Oh, there's a tragedy!" Such a jealous thing to say. Then after the second task when Fluer kissed Ron it says that "Hermione looked simply furious." And at the end of the book when Ron states that Fluer's English is fine and Fluer smiles at Ron and it says, "Hermione scowled." God, how obvious can it be? And I'll never understand with all those instances of Hermione's jealousy why anyone would act like Hermione doesn't care about Ron. lol I mean, take that along with all those times she stands up for him or changes how she views things because Ron's hurt (especially in OotP). I'll never understand people. Besides, JKR's stated in the CoS interviews that Kolve's has correctly guessed things that would happen in future books which also suggests that they keep in constant contact and that nothing would end up in the movies that wouldn't happen in the books. She's even said that about PoA. She wouldn't let Alfonso do things that wouldn't work in the books.

Which brings me to still being torn about Kolves. I'm like happy because maybe Ron will be done justice, but he and JKR had such a connection that I'm scared the new writer won't have that.

[ReallyLove LOST]

You know, I thought the same thing 'til I read a passage in PoA that made me think, "Well, wait a minute." It's when Sirius and Lupin reunite for the first time since Sirius was wrongly accused... when they're apologizing to each other for thinking the worse. Peter tells Lupin that he can't believe what Sirius is saying because Sirius never told Lupin about the plan and Lupin states he wouldn't have if Sirius thought he (Lupin) was the spy. It's a longshot, but I was wondering if Sirius thought that because Lupin had been in love with Lily and James won her over. Especially when you read OotP and see how Lupin kept to himself when Lily came over reacting to what James and Sirius were doing to Snape while they were at Hogwarts.


I've read that chapter trillions of times and know what part you are talking about. However, I strongly believe Sirius suspected it was Lupin because, well, he thought Peter was way too much of a dimwit to be betraying them in such a way.

And I think Remus kept to himself because he was a prefect, but he didn't want to stand up to his friends and tell them they were wrong because, well, they were his friends. And he didn't have many, I don't think.

[Tao]

Oh, I know he thought that of Peter otherwise he wouldn't have trusted him, but why didn't he trust Lupin? Why did he think he'd be the spy of all people? I know Lupin says the same thing to Sirius, but he could be apologizing because he thought Sirius had killed Peter like everyone said because quite honestly I think they also thought Peter was so stuck up James' butt that he wouldn't have done it. I just think if it turns out that Lupin was in fact in love with Lily that's a part of the book you have to go back to and wonder if JKR meant something more.

[ReallyLove LOST]

Oh, I know he thought that of Peter otherwise he wouldn't have trusted him, but why didn't he trust Lupin? Why did he think he'd be the spy of all people? I know Lupin says the same thing to Sirius, but he could be apologizing because he thought Sirius had killed Peter like everyone said because quite honestly I think they also thought Peter was so stuck up James' butt that he wouldn't have done it. I just think if it turns out that Lupin was in fact in love with Lily that's a part of the book you have to go back to and wonder if JKR meant something more.

Well ... Maybe Sirius and James thought that it had to be either Peter or Remus. Someone in their immediate circle that would know the most about them. Other than that, I can't even begin to imagine why they wouldn't have trusted Remus. That's always pissed me off. Poor Remus. :(

And, you know ... God forbid he did, but, if Remus DID love Lily ... Well, I think that James did for a while, too. I do think James would be more open about it than Remus would've been. And if he knew James wanted her, too, I really don't think Remus ever would've let on about it.

But who knows. I'm just hoping this never turns out to be true. LOL.

[Tao]

Exactly! That's why I'm saying, why would they trust Lupin the least? Because of his feelings for Lily? That maybe, despite what he says, he was bitter about losing Lily to James? Maybe James and Sirius took a look and said, "Well, I think it's someone we know... but who?" "Well, Lupin was in love with Lily, maybe he hadn't gotten over that." "Well, that could be true..." I mean, you can't just go around accusing people of working for Voldemort without a reason and I doubt very much that James or Sirius would think that of Lupin without a serious (heh) reason. And what better reason than revenge for stealing the person they were in love with? And the fact that he couldn't have Lily because she loved James and not him?

But who knows. lol I could be way off... but it's interesting to think about regardless.

[ReallyLove LOST]

Exactly! That's why I'm saying, why would they trust Lupin the least? Because of his feelings for Lily? That maybe, despite what he says, he was bitter about losing Lily to James? Maybe James and Sirius took a look and said, "Well, I think it's someone we know... but who?" "Well, Lupin was in love with Lily, maybe he hadn't gotten over that." "Well, that could be true..." I mean, you can't just go around accusing people of working for Voldemort without a reason and I doubt very much that James or Sirius would think that of Lupin without a serious (heh) reason. And what better reason than revenge for stealing the person they were in love with? And the fact that he couldn't have Lily because she loved James and not him?

But who knows. lol I could be way off... but it's interesting to think about regardless.

It's sickening to me, but ... Maybe it does verge on interesting. ;)

And ... Sirius/Remus was implied in the Prisoner of Azkaban movie, too. (And depending on how you viewed certain parts, the book, too.) I'd REALLY love it if that turned out to be true. But, fat chance, eh? LOL.

[Tao]

LOL I think TLC mentioned this one and I thought, "Er... I don't think in a children's book." Haha. But it'd be interesting nonetheless.

You know what else I've really enjoyed about the movie version of PoA? The progression of R/Hr. I know some people think that it's going to make the audiance wonder what's going on when Hermione goes to the Yule Ball with Viktor, but I think PoA greatly depicted two people clearly falling for each other but too young to want to admit it as well as too stuborn. The hand gesture was the best! And the fact that they kept the fighting in. Plus if they keep GoF closer to the book (which I think will happen) I see them showing that part of Ron and Hermione where she gets upset that Ron only wants to take the prettiest girl who'll have him to the ball. *sigh* How I love my R/Hr. I just hope they keep in the fight after the Yule Ball because it pretty much proves that Hermione would've gone with Ron had he just asked.

[Sawyer_Kate_Crazy]

It is funny how I came from thinking Harry Potter was dumn, to watching the first movie with my friend, and being TOTALLY into it! Of Course I love the BOOKS so much more then the movies! I really enjoyed the movies, and thought they were good for what Alfonso, and Columbus had to work with. Yeah, there are parts in the movie that should have been added and bla bla bla..But these movies can't hold every little detail, so therefore the MOVIES are GRAND! BUT THE BOOKS ARE BETTER! :D

[ReallyLove LOST]

LOL I think TLC mentioned this one and I thought, "Er... I don't think in a children's book." Haha. But it'd be interesting nonetheless.

You know what else I've really enjoyed about the movie version of PoA? The progression of R/Hr. I know some people think that it's going to make the audiance wonder what's going on when Hermione goes to the Yule Ball with Viktor, but I think PoA greatly depicted two people clearly falling for each other but too young to want to admit it as well as too stuborn. The hand gesture was the best! And the fact that they kept the fighting in. Plus if they keep GoF closer to the book (which I think will happen) I see them showing that part of Ron and Hermione where she gets upset that Ron only wants to take the prettiest girl who'll have him to the ball. *sigh* How I love my R/Hr. I just hope they keep in the fight after the Yule Ball because it pretty much proves that Hermione would've gone with Ron had he just asked.

Yeah, not in a childrens book. Which is exactly the reason I'm sticking by thinking Remus/Lily isn't going to be implied, either.

[Tao]

It is funny how I came from thinking Harry Potter was dumn, to watching the first movie with my friend, and being TOTALLY into it!

Hah! I did the samething. I was thinking that these were "children's books" and I wouldn't like them at all! But then a friend told me to read them so I decided to rent the first two movies to see if I might enjoy the storyline and I just absolutely loved them both. Of course the books are so much better, but the movies are great. I try to treat them seperately because books and movies *are* suppose to be different.

Yeah, not in a childrens book. Which is exactly the reason I'm sticking by thinking Remus/Lily isn't going to be implied, either.

True, true. But then I think it's a better thing to have in a children's book then a gay relationship, but I'm not sure we'll see any it really. Perhaps it'll be a mystery we'll never know.

[ReallyLove LOST]

Hah! I did the samething. I was thinking that these were "children's books" and I wouldn't like them at all! But then a friend told me to read them so I decided to rent the first two movies to see if I might enjoy the storyline and I just absolutely loved them both. Of course the books are so much better, but the movies are great. I try to treat them seperately because books and movies *are* suppose to be different.

True, true. But then I think it's a better thing to have in a children's book then a gay relationship, but I'm not sure we'll see any it really. Perhaps it'll be a mystery we'll never know.

I despised Harry Potter (Not without reason, mind you. I had read the first chapter of Sorcerer's Stone and just ... eh.) until I saw the Prisoner of Azkaban movie. At which point I bought and read all five books in the span of a week and became obsessive. LOL.

Yeah, we probably won't see any. But, I don't really think having a gay relationship would be that horrible. What is really so different about it. But, you know ... Most christians already want to burn JKR alive for the magic thing, if she added homosexuality it'd get really bad. :confused: But enough of that. That's turning into an entirely different, and very controversial subject.

[Tao]

LOL Isn't that funny? It's weird, I never thought I could like HP... but, like you, I'm completely obsessive. I even check Hottopic every chance I get incase they sneak a new item in there.

I agree, but I think it's just better not to have something that controversial in a children's book. Besides, I don't think there is really room to explore in HP. I mean, as sad as it makes me, I doubt we'll really get to explore any of the romantic aspects of HP. I think we'll get glimpses like we have, but it certainly won't be a focus. Although I'm still hoping that Harry witnesses R/Hr getting together because I want to know!

So... speaking of the movies, whois your favourite actor of the trio? Mine's definitely Rupert. He's definitely the best out of the three and it just sucks that they don't let him show off what he can do. You'd have to see him in Thunderpants to see what I mean. Not the greatest movie in the world, but Rupert's bloody brilliant.

[ReallyLove LOST]

LOL Isn't that funny? It's weird, I never thought I could like HP... but, like you, I'm completely obsessive. I even check Hottopic every chance I get incase they sneak a new item in there.

I agree, but I think it's just better not to have something that controversial in a children's book. Besides, I don't think there is really room to explore in HP. I mean, as sad as it makes me, I doubt we'll really get to explore any of the romantic aspects of HP. I think we'll get glimpses like we have, but it certainly won't be a focus. Although I'm still hoping that Harry witnesses R/Hr getting together because I want to know!

So... speaking of the movies, whois your favourite actor of the trio? Mine's definitely Rupert. He's definitely the best out of the three and it just sucks that they don't let him show off what he can do. You'd have to see him in Thunderpants to see what I mean. Not the greatest movie in the world, but Rupert's bloody brilliant.


I check the hot topic website every morning. LMAO. Can you believe that madness? :o

Rupert is the only actor I really like in all the movies, of all the actors. Well, like as in the way they portray the character. And I've never heard of Thunderpants? Weird title, though. LOL. :confused:

[Tao]

I'm addicted to hottopic. LOL Did you get the Ron shirts? I have both of 'em!

I adore Rupert. I think he'll go far in the career, even if he sticks to playing Ron in all 7 movies. And it baffles me why Dan would win 'best actor' award which he did in an Austria magazine. I mean, the guy has the same facial expression in every scene! *shakes head* I even made banners depicting what bad acting is and what good acting is. lol At least Dan doesn't sound like he's trying desperately to remember his lines like he did in the first two movies, I'll give him that. Oh, Thunderpants was released in England. It's a movie about a kid who has a farting problem. lol See, not the greatest movie, but it is cute. Rupert plays Alan A. Allen, a child genius who has no sense of smell so he befriends the other boy. The movie is cute with the kids friendship, but it has it's moments where you're going "er..."

[ReallyLove LOST]

No, I don't have any Ron shirts. I'm unfortunately not made of money so I've only got two Gryffindor crest shirts and a Hogwarts crest one. :confused:

Yeah, I read on mugglenet.com the Daniel Radcliffe Best Actor thing ... Which was, to say the very least: shocking. If not down right outrageous, but ... Okay. :confused: He did have the same facial expression in every scene, and it wasn't even a good facial expression. LOL! :o

[Tao]

I'm terrible and kept buying everything Ron related. LOL

Oh God, it's just hilarious how much his scared facial expression matches his sad facial expression. Or how his "impressed with Hermione punching Malfoy" expression looked the same as his happy expression. LOL The only thing I can figure as to why anyone would give him an award is three factors... people voted, he's Harry Potter, the fangirls. Otherwise it makes no sense why anyone would consider him a great actor.

[ReallyLove LOST]

When I was outraged at the Oscar nominations, I made up my own list of nominees and winners. And I also made a worst list, too. Kind of like the Razzies, I suppose.

I gave Dan worst actor.

Did anyone care to look at his facial expression in the Shrieking Shack scene when Hermione blurts out that Remus is a werewolf? That scene has always bothered me. You can see him standing behind her, and he barely makes a facial expression. I'm always like, "Wow, Harry. Way to be shocked."

:eek: <~ Not Harry in that scene.
:confused: <~ Also not Harry in that scene.

And, there is not a smiley face out there that could ever convey the lameness of that face in that scene, so I'm not even going to bother to look.

*End Daniel Radcliffe insulting, as there are tons of fangirls who would maul me if they got wind of what I was saying. Walks off, whistling innocently.*

[lost_with_josh]

I despise Daniel Radcliffe, apparently (according to imdb.com) they were considering Liam Aiken for the part. That would've been better.

Now, for something almost completely off topic, does anyone know how old the Phelps brothers (Fred and George) are?

[ReallyLove LOST]

I despise Daniel Radcliffe, apparently (according to imdb.com) they were considering Liam Aiken for the part. That would've been better.

Now, for something almost completely off topic, does anyone know how old the Phelps brothers (Fred and George) are?

They were born on February 25th of 1986. And supposedly Oliver is 13 minutes older than James. I wonder if he teases James about that, LOL.

And as for the favorites that Lizzy brought up, here are mine:

Book: Prisoner of Azkaban.
Movie: Prisoner of Azkaban.

Dude, I'd MARRY that book if it was legal to marry inanimate pieces of literature. Which, I am pretty sure it isn't. ;) Maybe I shall hold my own little private ceremony. :rolleyes:

[Tao]

LOL There was an article where someone had nominated Rupert for best supporting actor for the oscars. And I couldn't have agreed more with it. There is no bashing of anyone else in the HP movies, but manages to praise Rupert for what he has done. Click! (http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2005/January/21/style/stories/01style.htm)

I despise Daniel Radcliffe, apparently (according to imdb.com) they were considering Liam Aiken for the part. That would've been better.

Yeah, he would've been Harry had JKR not wanted someone British to play Harry. Dan only got the job because of being British and he looks like Harry (minus the eye colour).

I think the Phelps twins are close to 20 give or take a year or two.

I have a few HP items. I recently bought the set of 4 pins from Hot Topic the ones from HPATPOA. And I have a Harry Potter Gryffindor t-shirt and a Harry Potter Slytherin tie.

If I even begin to list my HP stuff, everyone would be here all night to read it! Okay, slight exaggeration, but still. Heh. Some of my favourite items are the PoA style Gryffindor tie and scarf, my Ron's wand, and my custumed made Gryffindor robe. :)

ETA: Oh yeah, my favourite book is between PoA and GoF, and my favourite movie so far is PoA.

[ReallyLove LOST]

Yeah, he would've been Harry had JKR not wanted someone British to play Harry. Dan only got the job because of being British and he looks like Harry (minus the eye colour).


And the hair color. And the fact that his hair WAS COMBED FLAT IN THE FIRST TWO MOVIES OH MY GOD THE OUTRAGE I CANNOT STAND IT.

::Calms self.:: ;)

[Tao]

LOL I don't get why they did that in the first two but had no qualms about messing with his hair in the third one. What? 14 suddenly gives them the liberty to do that? I'll never understand it.

my favorite character is of course Harry..and I am in lust with the thought of harry and hermione!!!

*whistles* Any ways, my favourite character is definitely Ron and I just adore Ron and Hermione. :)

[ReallyLove LOST]

Dude, I'd MARRY that book if it was legal to marry inanimate pieces of literature. Which, I am pretty sure it isn't. Maybe I shall hold my own little private ceremony.

^
lOl!!! too funny!

my favorite character is of course Harry..and I am in lust with the thought of harry and hermione!!!

Are you calling me funny? :( Just kidding. ;)

My favorite character is a two-way tie. If you held me at gun point and told me to pick between them I still wouldn't be able to do it. Equal and an absurd amount of love for Sirius and Remus. :o

(Hmph, hoping this works this time. Replied, realized I double posted, deleted, went to reply again, and it told me I had already posted. Hmmm? Now I'm flabbergasted! ... And even more so because I just said that word.)

[liliana]

Books I love the books I think they are amazing in so many ways.

Movie wise I like Philosophers Stone and Prisoner of Azkaban POA is my favourite book in the series and I thought it was really well done

[Tao]

You know, I just watched all three movies, and while I'll admit that Dan has gotten better in each film, I'll never, EVER understand why he gets all the award nominations. Other than the fact that he's Harry Potter.

Just wanted to get that off my chest. :)

Oh, and can someone tell me *why* Hermione gets everyone's lines? She got Seamus' line in SS/PS, she got Ron's line in CoS (the hearing voices line), Dumbledore's line in CoS (prey tell, why would a 12 year old girl have such wisdom as saying that "fear of the name brings fear itself" or whatever it was? Like wtf?), and again Ron's line in PoA? I think she got a few more lines as well that made no sense for her to get.

[ReallyLove LOST]

Oh, and can someone tell me *why* Hermione gets everyone's lines? She got Seamus' line in SS/PS, she got Ron's line in CoS (the hearing voices line), Dumbledore's line in CoS (prey tell, why would a 12 year old girl have such wisdom as saying that "fear of the name brings fear itself" or whatever it was? Like wtf?), and again Ron's line in PoA? I think she got a few more lines as well that made no sense for her to get.

Oh, that bugs me, too! When Hermione says "Fear of a name only increases fear of a thing itself." I just shake my head and go "Why?!" :confused: I mean, it is not like Hermione is an unpopular character and doesn't have enough of her own lines! :confused:

[Tao]

I don't get it either. Hell, in the books she didn't stop saying "You-Know-Who" until OotP, when she is 15! When she finally realizes there's no point to it. But to allow a 12 year old to say something that important... *sigh* I hope the new screenwriter stops giving Hermione everyone else's lines.

And something that I don't understand in PoA is Hermione talking about how funny the Monster Book of Monsters was. If memory serves (I don't feel like looking it up), she wasn't all that sure about how "funny" they were, but never let Malfoy know that.

[Chelsea]

Also did you know that in GOF that Hermione will be kissing Viktor Krum? This of course wasn't in the book, it was just added in. What do you think about that?

[ReallyLove LOST]

Also did you know that in GOF that Hermione will be kissing Viktor Krum? This of course wasn't in the book, it was just added in. What do you think about that?

I think that is such a bad decision. Harry Potter is not about romance between any two characters, or love triangles, or what have you. Leave that to fanfiction. She does not need to kiss him in GoF movie. Argh! :mad: They are going to take out everything of importance and add romance, aren't they?

[Tao]

I've heard the magazine that snipet appeared in has been wrong before. I guess we'll find out come November though... I certainly hope not. Or if she does it's something very minimal like a kiss on the check. But only to highten Ron's jealousy. After all, he gets a kiss on the check from Fluer which shows off Hermione's jealousy. Heh. Heh.

I've been curious as to what they're cutting out of GoF. We know there are no Dursley's, and no Mrs. Weasley which cuts out all Burrow scenes. As well as her coming to Hogwarts to support Harry and being at the end of the film when she finds out about Sirius. Of course, that's the only two things that are a bit disappointing since it's somewhat essential, but I feel her role is more important in OotP than it is in GoF. There will be no Percy in GoF, so we won't see him during the Yule Ball, or during the second task, and we won't have any of the stuff before the QWC when everyone was waiting around before it started. Also no Bill or Charlie in GoF, so I assume we won't see any of the dragon stuff. Or at least too much of it when Harry finds out about it. Everything else I don't know. But what we do know... Yule Ball, all three tasks, Harry in the prefects bathroom, QWC, the port key scene, Voldemort, loads of R/Hr stuff (according to Rupert), Rita Skeeter stuff, the pensive stuff, the Malfoy as a ferret scene, and obviously anything to do with Mad Eye Moody, Barty Crouch Sr. and Jr., and I'm sure the ending stuff with Harry finding out about Barty Crouch Jr. being Moody.

I'm more concerned with what they'll cut out of OotP. IMO there is just so much important stuff in there that I can't even begin to imagine what they could cut out of that and still make it a two and a half hour movie.

[ReallyLove LOST]

I'm more concerned with what they'll cut out of OotP. IMO there is just so much important stuff in there that I can't even begin to imagine what they could cut out of that and still make it a two and a half hour movie.

::Cries in fear of what they will do to OotP.::

Oh, yeah, and if Elizabeth Hurley is Bellatrix Lestrange ... WORST CASTING CHOICE EVER IN THE HISTORY OF REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HORRIBLE CASTING CHOICES. ::Screams. Rips hair out.:: :eek: (Edit: Worse than Daniel Radcliffe!)

[OmgLOLz]

I can't wait for the new movie to come out, and the new book in June.

I lurve Harry Potter.

[ReallyLove LOST]

I can't wait for the new movie to come out, and the new book in June.

I lurve Harry Potter.

::Waves in welcome.:: :D

I cannot wait, either. I am going crazy. (Actually, I'm already there, but it is a figure of speech.)

[OmgLOLz]

::Waves in welcome.:: :D

I cannot wait, either. I am going crazy. (Actually, I'm already there, but it is a figure of speech.)

Thanks for being so welcoming.

I only read books four and five since i saw the first three movies before i started reading them. I'm so addicted, I have all three DVDs. Both movies and books are really good.

I'm sad that the next book is the last, apparently. Cuz its a six year series.

[ReallyLove LOST]

Thanks for being so welcoming.

I only read books four and five since i saw the first three movies before i started reading them. I'm so addicted, I have all three DVDs. Both movies and books are really good.

I'm sad that the next book is the last, apparently. Cuz its a six year series.

You should read all of the books, they are much better than the movies. Especially Prisoner of Azkaban. :)

And it's a seven year series. Don't get too sad. ;)

[OmgLOLz]

Is it really? Wow.

I plan on reading the books, just not with the movies so fresh in my mind. I need to read more often. I read book five in two or three days I forget which, I was so addicted.

[ReallyLove LOST]

Is it really? Wow.

I plan on reading the books, just not with the movies so fresh in my mind. I need to read more often. I read book five in two or three days I forget which, I was so addicted.

Oh man, I hear you. I read Order of the Phoenix in 2 and a half days. I barely slept, and when I did, the second I woke up I had that book in my hand again. I even skipped a family get together to read the end. Boy, they hated me for that. :o

Oh, and I started a Harry Potter book reading marathon the day after I saw the Prisoner of Azkaban movie. It doesn't hurt much to read them when it's still fresh in your mind.

[OmgLOLz]

yeah, I saw azkaban twice in the theatres. I loved it.

[Chelsea]

Is it really? Wow.

I plan on reading the books, just not with the movies so fresh in my mind. I need to read more often. I read book five in two or three days I forget which, I was so addicted.

Ah, well read the first three books and then watch the movies, especially book three, I sat there the whole time saying "wow, they cut this out, and wow thats in a different spot than it should be" :p The ending of POA movie is different than the book ending, harry really gets his firebolt way earlier in the book...that is probably what irked me the most.

[Tao]

Oh, yeah, and if Elizabeth Hurley is Bellatrix Lestrange ... WORST CASTING CHOICE EVER IN THE HISTORY OF REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HORRIBLE CASTING CHOICES. ::Screams. Rips hair out.:: (Edit: Worse than Daniel Radcliffe!)

LOL That made me laugh. But you're right, I just can't see Elizabeth Hurley as Bellatrix. It just... maybe with the right make-up... *shrugs*

Is it really? Wow.

I plan on reading the books, just not with the movies so fresh in my mind. I need to read more often. I read book five in two or three days I forget which, I was so addicted.

I watched SS and CoS to see if I would like the books, and since I loved the movies, I had to read the books. Finished all 5 in about 2 and a half weeks, give or take, and this was after watching the first two movies just a few days before. It really doesn't hurt them. I love everything. They cut out a lot in the movies for various reasons. PoA is the most different from the books, but with everything that goes on in the book it doesn't bother me, just as long as the essential plot was kept, which basically it was. Any ways, it won't hurt any thing. I don't think there are many people who don't enjoy both in their own way (which is how it should be imo).

[OmgLOLz]

LOL That made me laugh. But you're right, I just can't see Elizabeth Hurley as Bellatrix. It just... maybe with the right make-up... *shrugs*



I watched SS and CoS to see if I would like the books, and since I loved the movies, I had to read the books. Finished all 5 in about 2 and a half weeks, give or take, and this was after watching the first two movies just a few days before. It really doesn't hurt them. I love everything. They cut out a lot in the movies for various reasons. PoA is the most different from the books, but with everything that goes on in the book it doesn't bother me, just as long as the essential plot was kept, which basically it was. Any ways, it won't hurt any thing. I don't think there are many people who don't enjoy both in their own way (which is how it should be imo).

I saw the Joy Luck Club before I read the book, and then I watched the movie again...there was a lot cut out but I didn't think it hurt the movie much.

[Tao]

It happens with all books that are turned into movies. Same with LOTR. And I haven't even finished that and they cut out some major parts. Heck, half of the books turned into movies are done even worse. I really think the movies do pretty well without crossing that line on either side. (Like getting in copyright trouble, or making it a completely terrible movie.) Plus my thought is if the author likes what they've done, one can't complain too much. lol

This is completely off topic. Well, somewhat, but Rupert's in negotations to star in a movie called "Driving Lessons" and I really hope he does it because well, for one, he's an awesome actor that deserves it, but also, it'd be great to show off his acting skills that Kolves can't push down. :p So, take that, Kolves!

[Quiet Tempest]

I've already pre-ordered Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. I absolutely LOVE the books! I started reading them shortly before the Sorcerer's Stone was released in theaters. The movies really don't do justice for the books. There's no comparison.

[OmgLOLz]

Well the problem is the length.

My boyfriend is a screenwriter (he's done work for So Wierd, and In A Heartbeat).

He says 1 page of script = 1 minute of movie.

And these books have like 4 times the description in them per page than a script would. I guess that's why I sympathize. I mean....how long was the last book, nearly 300 pages, yes? It'd be a lot longer in script form if nothing was omitted....I'd probably watch it anyway cuz they're such good stories...but they'd probably have to be realized in 14 movies instead of 7 books....or 6, which is what I thought it was.

[Tao]

Oh, of course. There is no way to pack an entire book into a 2 and a half hour movie. It'd be insane. I mean, I would love a 4 hour movie, lol, but it's still for kids and you have to think along those lines. Besides, a movie is a visual and a book is very much not. The books and the movies should never be comparec because they're completely different. But they're both great in their own right. I've loved all three, and PoA is my favourite book (along with GoF), and I think the movie was greatly done. Besides, so did JKR which I've said makes it hard to argue when the author of the book is quite happy with the movie. lol

[ReallyLove LOST]

I would like to tell you guys something, just in case I've been mistaken at any point in time about my feelings towards the Prisoner of Azkaban movie.

And this is not exaggerated:

Every single day since November 23rd when the movie came out, I have watched it AT LEAST twice. And when I am not watching it, for some reason I want nothing more than just to be watching it. It is a constant thing.

So I can say it sucks in comparison to the book and it's horrible all I want but that's the truth of it. I am drawn to that movie like crazy. LOL.

:o

[OmgLOLz]

I never thought otherwise. LoL I was just saying in defense of all the stuff cut out it probably had to go. Sad stuffs. Yeah.

[Tao]

LOL I always want to watch it at night, when I fall asleep (for some reason I have a hard time falling asleep unless something is playing in the background), but I love it so much that I want to watch it... so I can't do that. lol

Kinda OT, but I read something interesting that may or may not have to do with Rupert's movie (if he does it). Someone at TLC said that there's a book called "Driving Lessons" and basically (from what I remember) the book is about a mother of three children whose husband leaves her and she has to deal with it. The eldest son, I think he's suppose to be 18, doesn't talk to his father, the second son, pretty much a teenager, becomes violent, and then there is suppose to be a daughter. Any ways, I just thought that was interesting because if he does do this movie, we'll get to see some drama from Rupert which I know will be good even though they never let Rupert do too much drama in the HP movies. *sigh*

[ReallyLove LOST]

I watch it to fall asleep, too. Because I need a movie on to sleep to. I can sleep to any movie. I mean that.

Anyway, from Mugglenet.com

Elizabeth Hurley rumor debunked
We recently reported that Elizabeth Hurley had been offered the role of "an evil witch" (likely Bellatrix Lestrange) in the fifth movie. We have just received word from Warner Brothers that there is "absolutely no truth in this rumor whatsoever."

:banana: :banana: :banana: :clap: :letsparty :dance2:

I am only a little relieved, can you tell?

:banana:

[Tao]

Yeah, I saw that! Thank God. I just couldn't see her as Bellatrix. It would be... heh, strange.

[OmgLOLz]

To say the least!

[Eternally]

I watch it to fall asleep, too. Because I need a movie on to sleep to. I can sleep to any movie. I mean that.

Anyway, from Mugglenet.com

Elizabeth Hurley rumor debunked
We recently reported that Elizabeth Hurley had been offered the role of "an evil witch" (likely Bellatrix Lestrange) in the fifth movie. We have just received word from Warner Brothers that there is "absolutely no truth in this rumor whatsoever."


Hey you go to Mugglenet too!? I LOVE THAT SITE!!

And Liz Hurley as Bellatrix!? Who's bright idea was that??? :confused:

Also, don't know why i am saying this, but i am the biggest Ron/Hermione shipper EVER!! For some reason, i cant help feeling like shes gonna end up with Harry and i cant help getting discouraged! :(

[OmgLOLz]

Hey you go to Mugglenet too!? I LOVE THAT SITE!!

And Liz Hurley as Bellatrix!? Who's bright idea was that??? :confused:

Also, don't know why i am saying this, but i am the biggest Ron/Hermione shipper EVER!! For some reason, i cant help feeling like shes gonna end up with Harry and i cant help getting discouraged! :(


Omg if she ends up with Harry, I'll cry!!!!!!!!

I was a Harry/Hermione shipper after seeing the first two movies, but after seeing the 3rd movie and reading books 4 & 5 I'm a R/H shipper.

[Eternally]

YEAH! RON AND HERMIONE ALL THE WAY BABY!!!

i know if she ends up with Harry my whole world will just come crashing down!! Dont you just see the chemistry between Ron and Hermione?! Then again she has chemistry with Harry and Malfoy..BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT!! :) Also, i know J.K Rowling said there were a lot of "hints" in the third movie, and i couldn't help noticing she was awfully close to Ron and Harry!! Future love triangle perhaps?? :mad:

[Eruaistaniel]

Oh Oh! *jumps up and down* HP fan here!! And books all the way!! Kolves has completly butchered the story in the movies. :mad:

And uh....am I the only H/Hr shipper here??? Er, well that said, I am a H/Hr shipper. :D

[ReallyLove LOST]

Hey you go to Mugglenet too!? I LOVE THAT SITE!!

And Liz Hurley as Bellatrix!? Who's bright idea was that??? :confused:

Also, don't know why i am saying this, but i am the biggest Ron/Hermione shipper EVER!! For some reason, i cant help feeling like shes gonna end up with Harry and i cant help getting discouraged! :(

I have to visit Mugglenet.com the first thing every morning, and then I keep checking about 7 times during the day, too. :o

LOL, I don't think Hermione will end up with Harry. It'll be Ron or no one at all.

But I only ship Sirius/Remus, so ... :confused: That's never happening. :(

[poj7326]

i love #1-2 and i hate number three he made it more like a mystery than like magic

[ReallyLove LOST]

i love #1-2 and i hate number three he made it more like a mystery than like magic

Books? Movies? Which are you referring to?

And ... it's possible to hate Prisoner of Azkaban? :confused: :eek:

:thud:

Also, in my personal opinion, I don't think the Harry Potter books or movies are solely all about magic, anyway. Nor do I think they should be.

[poj7326]

i hate number 3

[I-am-Lost]

the 3rd movie was my favorite...I dunno why, but I think they did a better job with making it a movie instead of just a book on screen...I like the 1st two movies, but they are too kiddie movies, but the third one was more dark, although it was predictible...I don't think I'm going to enjoy the 4th movie...it was such a great book, but they will have to cut out a whole lot....and that might just ruin it...i dunno:)

[Tao]

First off, fear not R/Hr shippers! On more than one occassion, JK Rowling all but said that it'll be Ron and Hermione. And to rest your minds... check out this video! (http://www.sugarquill.net/goodshiprh/goodshipclip.mov) Bwahaha. Look at her expression at the thought of Harry and Hermione!

Secondly, i love #1-2 and i hate number three he made it more like a mystery than like magic Okay, we're aware that the books are more than just magic, right? There is a mystery. PoA had a huge mystery and a great twist of an ending. The same with GoF. OotP sort of had it, but it was more about what happened with Harry and Voldemort.

Lastly, have you guys heard the rumor about Harry kissing Cho in GoF? I mean, I'm all for beefing up the romance in GoF because it pretty much has that theme, but Hermione kissing Krum? Harry kissing Cho this early? C'mon! Let's keep the raging hormones, but let's keep them in check... and focus on R/Hr. :)

[ReallyLove LOST]

Lastly, have you guys heard the rumor about Harry kissing Cho in GoF? I mean, I'm all for beefing up the romance in GoF because it pretty much has that theme, but Hermione kissing Krum? Harry kissing Cho this early? C'mon! Let's keep the raging hormones, but let's keep them in check... and focus on R/Hr. :)

I just read that on MuggleNet, but I think it's a rumor with no truth behind it.

I don't even want Harry to kiss Cho in Order of the Phoenix like in the book. I hate Cho. A lot. I don't know why, I just do.

And I wish they'd just squash all the raging hormones out. But, alas, never will happen. Sigh. :confused:

[Tao]

I dunno, I kinda like it. I mean, it was obvious that it was in the book. I mean, boys and girls don't get jealous unless there are hormones involved. lol

OT again... but wooo!! Rupert in Driving Lessons! Such a Rupert fan. And how ironic is it that the most shunned of the trio is the one getting the most offers? I just hope this movie hits the states. Although Laura Linnely is suppose to be in it too, so that might be help.

[ReallyLove LOST]

From MuggleNet.com:

Kissing rumors 'utter rubbish'
Put down those pitchforks: Warner Brothers have assured us that the reports that Harry and Cho would kiss in the Goblet of Fire movie are "beyond bizarre and utter rubbish." That applies to the Hermione and Krum rumor as well.

YAY! :)

[Tao]

I know! I was excited when I read that. :) Thank God... we don't need the "extraness" in the romance department for the movies. JKR does a fine job of it. Unless of course it's R/Hr... but then I'm slightly biased. :)

[Chelsea]

From MuggleNet.com:

Kissing rumors 'utter rubbish'
Put down those pitchforks: Warner Brothers have assured us that the reports that Harry and Cho would kiss in the Goblet of Fire movie are "beyond bizarre and utter rubbish." That applies to the Hermione and Krum rumor as well.

YAY! :)

Wow, this is big news...glad that they are going to stick to the book :)

[OmgLOLz]

Awesome, stellar, how exciting! I like when they stick to the book. Hollywood f**ks up too many movies these days by adding their own crap. Often a good script will come to them and a producer will change this and that...or worse yet....the studios change crap to make it more mainstream. *curses censored*

[fate]

I love the Harry Potter series. With me, I like all of the movies a lot but they kinda got screwed up. I'm just gonna be honest on all three movies: The first two were pretty good and stuck to the book but like some of you said, there wasn't much creativity coming from Columbus himself. The third movie was also good however, I was talking to a friend of mine about PoA and Cuaron and I was all telling her that I read somewhere Cuaron only wanted to do the PoA movie because it was his favorite book and my friend was saying that the movie was only PARTIALLY screwed up because he only made the movie because it was his favorite book (if that's even true..). I highly doubt GoF will be any better (bah, there's a new director...) but who knows. There's my opinion but I could NEVER EVER hate Harry Potter. Not with all the interesting stuff in the series.

And about the Harry not kissing Cho and Hermione not kissing Krum thing: Yaaay! Two idiotic rumors removed!

[Tao]

I never heard that about Cuaron. I heard that he hadn't even read the HP books when he was offered the gig of directing, and then he sat down and read PoA and loved it.

On all accounts, everyone talks about how great GoF is going to be. Of course, they said the same about PoA and while I loved it, it's obvious not everyone did. I think it'll be easier to be creative and still stick to the book with GoF than it was with PoA, and it's such a larger adventure it should be fun to see on screen. Minus the great scene of the Dursley's and the Weasley's coming through their fireplace. *sigh*

[ReallyLove LOST]

I think this is just me, but ...

I can't seem to care much about Goblet of Fire. It was my least favorite of the five books so far. I mean, I still read it obsessively in two days but it just wasn't as good as the others. :confused:

[Tao]

To each their own. Me? I loved PoA and GoF, but didn't care much for OotP. So of course I'm quite excited about the movie and everything. And the closer it gets, the more excited I become. lol

[ReallyLove LOST]

To each their own. Me? I loved PoA and GoF, but didn't care much for OotP. So of course I'm quite excited about the movie and everything. And the closer it gets, the more excited I become. lol

I liked Sorcerer's Stone. Book and movie.

I didn't much like Chamber of Secrets book, but I love the movie.

I will absolutely take Prisoner of Azkaban any way that I can get it. ;)

And I already said my opinion on Goblet of Fire. I just think it was the lack of Remus that made me sad, seeing as to how it was between POA and OOTP. :confused:

And I love Order of the Phoenix, but it is too sad. And it makes me angry, too. I beat up innocent furniture that doesn't deserve to be beaten upon when I read OOTP. ;)

[Tao]

*pictures beaten up innocent furniture* LOL

My problem with OotP is Harry. He just *bugs* me. However, I could completely, unfortunately, relate to him after... well, you know. I'm curious as to how Harry will be a year later. It's been over a year since my brother died and I still go through different emotions each day. I hope JKR doesn't stop his feelings since it's something you don't quite ever get over.

[ReallyLove LOST]

*pictures beaten up innocent furniture* LOL

My problem with OotP is Harry. He just *bugs* me. However, I could completely, unfortunately, relate to him after... well, you know. I'm curious as to how Harry will be a year later. It's been over a year since my brother died and I still go through different emotions each day. I hope JKR doesn't stop his feelings since it's something you don't quite ever get over.

Wow, so sorry about your brother. :( *Big hugs.* No, I don't reckon you'd ever get over something like that.

Yeah, Harry was a little over the top with his anger in OOTP. However, the part where he is trashing Dumbledore's office was funny. For like, a second, anyway. Then I just went back to sobbing hysterically. :o

And I doubt JKR would stop mentioning his feelings about ... (Pause for the 1 minute I spent staring off into space trying not to cry.) that. :confused: :o It was too important and awful to Harry for her to stop mentioning how he feels about it.

Edit: LOL at my reluctance to say what happened. It's like with the whole "you-know-who" thing, I'm like "the you-know-what." :rotflol:

[OmgLOLz]

I just thought Harry was a little too full of himself, yelling at Hermione and Ron. But...I was sooo pissed at Rawling for the Sirius thing. I totally blocked that out of my head, I mean, I honestly forgot...until I thought about why OOTP might make someone cry. I cried for days after that. I was all melancholy and I'd look at my boyfriend periodically and say ...you know...what happened.... to avoid spoilers of the movie only people....and just sigh sadly. I wanted to bomb J.K. Rawling's shit after that(not really). I was very upset.

[Eternally]

Yeah the Sirius thing upset me too!! i was so sure it was gonna be Hagrid though! i had read mugglenet and they were speculating about who would bite the dust and I WAS SO SURE!!! :mad:

In the movies, (in POA) Harry's fake crying kinda pissed me off. it was real fake. No emotion at all.

[ReallyLove LOST]

Yeah the Sirius thing upset me too!! i was so sure it was gonna be Hagrid though! i had read mugglenet and they were speculating about who would bite the dust and I WAS SO SURE!!! :mad:

In the movies, (in POA) Harry's fake crying kinda pissed me off. it was real fake. No emotion at all.

If it was Hagrid, are you trying to say that would've been better or worse? :confused: Just wondering.

Well, that's Daniel Radcliffe for you. You do mean the scene where he finds out Sirius is his godfather and he goes off and cries? And, "When he does, I'll kill him."? And I always say to myself, "If I was in this movie, I'd march right up to him and slap him silly for that!" ;)

And I am so glad I am not the only person who just ... Can't even explain it. When ... you-know-what happened. :eek:

[Tao]

You know what was awful about OotP for me? A friend had gotten me into it just a few months after my brother passed away and reading that was like... shocker. But in a weird way it helped. Very weird way. But I loved what Sirius said in PoA the movie because what he said... well, I saw the movie the exact day that my brother had been dead for six months. It really was a great moment for me and I forgot all about what happened to Sirius... for a moment at least.

*resists the urge to point out Dan's bad acting* Although what's really funny is people's excuses. "Well, he plays such a complex character, he has a lot to do." Makes me want to shake them voilently and point out other complex characters played by young kids.

Speaking of Hagrid and death... am I the only one who really fears that he might bite the dust in either book 6 or 7? I just have the worse feeling. :(

[ReallyLove LOST]

You know what was awful about OotP for me? A friend had gotten me into it just a few months after my brother passed away and reading that was like... shocker. But in a weird way it helped. Very weird way. But I loved what Sirius said in PoA the movie because what he said... well, I saw the movie the exact day that my brother had been dead for six months. It really was a great moment for me and I forgot all about what happened to Sirius... for a moment at least.
At least it helped in some way. Weird or not. Right?

And do you mean the end? "But know this, the ones that love us never really leave us, and you can always find them in here"? And he puts his hand over Harry's heart? And I cry? Like I am now? :o I fell in love with that moment so much, I have icons/signatures/banners/wallpapers galore made from screen captures of that scene. :o

*resists the urge to point out Dan's bad acting* Although what's really funny is people's excuses. "Well, he plays such a complex character, he has a lot to do." Makes me want to shake them voilently and point out other complex characters played by young kids.

Don't resist the urge! I've dissed Daniel Radcliffe a lot so far and nobody has beaten up on me. It's safe. ;)

Speaking of Hagrid and death... am I the only one who really fears that he might bite the dust in either book 6 or 7? I just have the worse feeling. :(
No, for some reason I can't see them killing Hagrid. Although, I am terrified they will kill off Remus because that would just figure. My two favorite characters will bite the dust and I'll never recover from those stupid books. :eek:

[Eternally]

If it was Hagrid, are you trying to say that would've been better or worse? :confused: Just wondering.

Well, that's Daniel Radcliffe for you. You do mean the scene where he finds out Sirius is his godfather and he goes off and cries? And, "When he does, I'll kill him."? And I always say to myself, "If I was in this movie, I'd march right up to him and slap him silly for that!" ;)

And I am so glad I am not the only person who just ... Can't even explain it. When ... you-know-what happened. :eek:


oh man if it was Hagrid it would've been MUCH MUCH worse! Hopefully he doesn't die..

and Dan isn't that bad of an actor....he just gets a little, um, exited sometimes..

A thing that kinda pisses me off in general is all the spoilers on Harry Potter books going out before people have seen the movies. Hard to explain but in one Entertainment Weekly for POA, they had a section talking to the actor who played Sirius Black (IM having memory problems right now :) ). They asked him how he felt about his character dying in the fifth movie!!! In other words, they totally ruined it for all the poor souls who haven't read the books!! i hate that!! if they want to find out what happens, its not that hard to pick up a book and read. :o Sorry got a little heated there.

[Tao]

At least it helped in some way. Weird or not. Right?

And do you mean the end? "But know this, the ones that love us never really leave us, and you can always find them in here"? And he puts his hand over Harry's heart?

Too true. And yes, that part. I almost cried myself... *sigh* Still gets me every time I watch it too.

Don't resist the urge! I've dissed Daniel Radcliffe a lot so far and nobody has beaten up on me. It's safe.

LOL! Did I ever show you my good acting vs. bad acting banners? My contribution to dissing Dan. ;)

No, for some reason I can't see them killing Hagrid.

Hah! I'm probably just being paranoid. I'm just terrified of that. I would hate to lose Lupin too. He's like the only link that Harry has to his parents now... and plus Lupin rocks.

They asked him how he felt about his character dying in the fifth movie!!! In other words, they totally ruined it for all the poor souls who haven't read the books!! i hate that!! if they want to find out what happens, its not that hard to pick up a book and read.

I'm glad I don't have that problem, but I can imagine how much that'd suck for the people who haven't read it. Right now my mom has the books on CD since she's not much of a reader, but I accidentally spoiled it for her about Sirius... She's kinda mad about that. lol

[OmgLOLz]

I for one don't think Daniel's a horrible actor. I heard a horrible rumor that they were replacing him with someone....younger.....wtf....but it was a rumor.

Gary Oldman played Sirius, well cast.

I can't deal with this.....it's like he died all over again.....

*tear*

I want him to come back.

[ReallyLove LOST]

LOL! Did I ever show you my good acting vs. bad acting banners? My contribution to dissing Dan. ;)

No, but you must show me! :)

I'm glad I don't have that problem, but I can imagine how much that'd suck for the people who haven't read it. Right now my mom has the books on CD since she's not much of a reader, but I accidentally spoiled it for her about Sirius... She's kinda mad about that. lol

I had to come across a post about Sirius on the OOTP movie board on www.imdb.com before I finished reading OOTP. I knew. And I still lost it. And I'm actually kind of thankful I did know. Because if I didn't, I don't even want to imagine how I would've been. :confused: :o

I for one don't think Daniel's a horrible actor. I heard a horrible rumor that they were replacing him with someone....younger.....wtf....but it was a rumor.

Gary Oldman played Sirius, well cast.

I don't think they should replace any of the three. It would be too weird. Yes, that means I think Dan should stay. :confused:

And I love Gary Oldman, but I don't like him as Sirius. (I've said this before, I think.)

[Tao]

Yeah, David Heyman made mention of having to replace the trio, and I think everyone thought it was because they were getting too old, but he squashed that and said that it might be that *they* want to leave. I don't think Warner Bros. would be stupid enough to let the trio go over age because we've grown to know these three as Harry, Ron and Hermione. It would be too weird. Of course, Rupert's the only one who stated he wanted to keep on playing Ron... Emma and Dan have taken a more laid back approach to it. So fingers crossed that they stay.

Okay... bad acting (http://pages.ivillage.com/umad80//badacting.jpg) vs. good acting (http://pages.ivillage.com/umad80//goodacting.jpg) . They're not suppose to be perfect, but funny, eh? hehe. My way of bashing Dan for his lack of acting abilities.

[ReallyLove LOST]

Yeah, David Heyman made mention of having to replace the trio, and I think everyone thought it was because they were getting too old, but he squashed that and said that it might be that *they* want to leave. I don't think Warner Bros. would be stupid enough to let the trio go over age because we've grown to know these three as Harry, Ron and Hermione. It would be too weird. Of course, Rupert's the only one who stated he wanted to keep on playing Ron... Emma and Dan have taken a more laid back approach to it. So fingers crossed that they stay.

Okay... bad acting (http://pages.ivillage.com/umad80//badacting.jpg) vs. good acting (http://pages.ivillage.com/umad80//goodacting.jpg) . They're not suppose to be perfect, but funny, eh? hehe. My way of bashing Dan for his lack of acting abilities.

I love Rupert Grint and his facial expressions. My favorite on that banner being "Embarrassed." :rotflol:

[Tao]

I know! LOL And they *never* get old. Even his "scared" look is always fresh and hilarious.

What's really hilarious is that Dan's "worried" and "mad" look is the exact same thing! It doesn't change! Neither is his "scared" and "sad" look. Him sad about Lupin leaving Hogwarts looked the same as when he was on the train facing the dementor for the first time. It was pitiful. It seems he did better in facial expressions in the first two movies (for the most part) because he was busy trying to remember his lines. And now that he remembers them, his acting suffers even more.

[OmgLOLz]

I mean, they do paint him as kind of a pussy, I showed them to my boyfriend and I was like....loook three of those are synonyms for some kind of fear: worried, scared, frightened.

LOL

So if you think about it...that banner does make him seem kind of one dimensional.

[Tao]

So if you think about it...that banner does make him seem kind of one dimensional.

Well, that's because he is! There was absolutely nothing to work with. Heck, when he's suppose to be "impressed" with Hermione punching Malfoy he looks like he just got an A on his chemistry test. And he has no confused looks whatsoever. lol And these were the only few instances I could *find* facial expressions to demonstrate what he was doing. Most of the time he just had the same stupid look on his face.

I mean, have you ever really paid attention to the train scene? Emma and Rupert do what they're suppose to do... look frightened... Dan just sort of sits there like, "La la la. I know what's in the script. No reason to be scared. I'll just look mildly interested." It's crap. Complete crap. I'm hoping beyond all hope that he gets better because GoF and OotP he really has some stuff to channel, but I fear he won't live up to it.

[ReallyLove LOST]

... From MuggleNet.com:

Heyman reveals more information on GOF
In an interview with Sci Fi Wire, producer David Heyman gives us a better look (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0&id=30491) at what we can expect to see in the movie. In summary, we learn:

- Film will not deal with the subplot of SPEW because "It's Hermione's issue".
- A new piece of information has been put into a character.
- Scenes already filmed include the Weasley's "surprisingly spacious" tent and one described with "a trophy room filled with silvered plaques and cups of various sizes, the Ministry Box at the Quidditch World Cup stadium, and a faux marble Trial Chamber, which rises several stories high."

Heyman goes on to explain their reasoning behind what stays and what goes in the final cut of Goblet of Fire:

"Anything that doesn't really relate to Harry and Harry's journey is less relevant. That's not to say that there're not minor detours. Inevitably there are. But there are certain things that we don't spend as much time with as they do in the book, just by the very nature of the material."

... Okay, it is not so much that I care about Hermione and her issues, but ...

There are plenty of people who read Harry Potter for OTHER characters besides Harry. Some of us just couldn't give a damn about him. And that pisses me off. It would take up a whole hour of movie if you just in passing mentioned SPEW, wouldn't it?

They are going to kill Order of the Phoenix ... ::Cries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:: :banghead: :censored: :worry:

[Tao]

See, now this doesn't bother me. I agree, not all of us care about Harry (I personally love Ron the most), but in this case, the book is about Harry so we have to make due with that. What strikes me as odd is that no Dobby means... well, whois going to tell him about the gillyweed? Mad Eye? Or dare I say that Hermione will again get someone else's moment and tell Harry? I'm sure the later will happen. Which surprises me about the lack of SPEW since what's his face (LOL I can't even think of his name right now) is so in love with Hermione and that is so Hermione-driven.

So, other things... what did you think of the new pictures? The champions (I'm a little disappointed in Fluer myself!) and the picture of Ron in bed? (Methinks he looks upset with Harry after the Triwizard Tournament thing.) Oh, and Neville practicing for the Yule Ball. LOL I also can't wait to get the Scene It? game! Any ways, I loved them all, aside from how Fleur looked. I was expecting more from her. And I'm praying beyond everything that the picture of Ron means we can see other things from Rupert (such as drama!) as well as him not being regulated to "funny sidekick" and the one of Neville is just hilarious. :) The one they had of Harry and Ron is hilarious because Harry/Dan looks like it was taken from CoS.

[Dom3654]

I like both the books and the movies. I wasn't into HP though until I saw PoA at the theatre. Anyway, I think the books are definitely better. My favorite movie would have to be PoA...I'm sure it'll change though once GoF comes out. I can't wait for HBP.

[Eruaistaniel]

There are plenty of people who read Harry Potter for OTHER characters besides Harry. Some of us just couldn't give a damn about him. And that pisses me off. It would take up a whole hour of movie if you just in passing mentioned SPEW, wouldn't it?

One reason I'm upset about the whole 2 1/2 hour deal for GoF. While I am one of the who does care about Harry, you have to understand that this is only a 2 1/2 movie, and they need to insert as much information dealing with Harry and Voldie or whatever to make it even more convincing (they should have made it 3 1/2 hours or two seperate films, grrrrr). You're right, they could have inserted something about S.P.E.W, just like they could have done something like that in PoA (inserting something about the Mauraders). Instead, I see added things in the movies that weren't even in the books that make up for the other lost things, and that ticks me off.

I don't even WANT to know what they're gonna do with OotP. *shudders*

[Nikiwi]

I like the books better, but the movies are good, too. The Sorcerer's Stone and the Chamber of Secrets were kind of gaggy to me. Especially at the end of the second one where everyone's clapping about Hagrid coming back. Come on! The Prizoner of Azkaban was good. It was really off from the books. They didn't even explain half the stuff! If you hadn't read the books before seeing it, you'd be like, "What...The...Heck." But it was still really good. I just think Rowling is an AMAZING author. She has that style of writing that just completely draws you in. Once you've started reading it, you just can't stop! lol.

[ReallyLove LOST]

If you hadn't read the books before seeing it, you'd be like, "What...The...Heck."

From someone who hadn't read Prisoner of Azkaban before seeing the movie: I wasn't "What the heck?" But now that I have read the book a million times, I wonder how on earth I wasn't "What the heck?" I guess I'm just used to not getting whats going on in those kind of movies. :p

[Nikiwi]

Yeah. Cause they didn't explain how Sirius, Peter, and James had become animaguses to help Lupin with his "werewolf problem." They didn't talk about how Harry got the Firebolt around Christmas, and they got in a fight with Hermione cause she told the staff. And they didn't tell how Lupin knew about the map. But it was a good movie, it just didn't go very well with the book.

[Eruaistaniel]

Really, the lack of information not given in PoA probably won't make the viewer go "What the heck?" until the later movies (unless of course they add that info in GoF). I was ticked that they left out information that was important to the plot in the next books.

[Tao]

Yeah. Cause they didn't explain how Sirius, Peter, and James had become animaguses to help Lupin with his "werewolf problem." They didn't talk about how Harry got the Firebolt around Christmas, and they got in a fight with Hermione cause she told the staff. And they didn't tell how Lupin knew about the map. But it was a good movie, it just didn't go very well with the book.

IMO everything but the map deal doesn't matter. And JKR seems to think people would've gotten that, but I think she gives far too much credit to the human race. lol But I saw it with my mom, aunt and cousin who didn't read the books, and they never asked me any questions, so I assume the majority understood.

Really, the lack of information not given in PoA probably won't make the viewer go "What the heck?" until the later movies (unless of course they add that info in GoF).

Alfonso said stuff would be explained in GoF so I guess it was a concious decision not to include it.

[ReallyLove LOST]

I went to see Prisoner of Azkaban once with my Dad, and I ended up having to explain to him the last like 7 chapters of the book. In full detail, you know. Took the entire hour ride home. :o He was probably, "Why did I ever ask?"

[Nini]

My brother hasn´t read the books, and he really gets the movies anyways, and kinda like ´em too, which I think is great, but I usually tell him things that aren´t in the movies, because it makes me a little frustrated at times, but it´s probably only those of us who read the books before who feels that way, others don´t mind, they like the movies anyway...

What probably upset me the most about POA, aside from the map, was the fact that they changed so much of the grounds around Hagrids cabin... or is that just me? Am I wrong? I don´t think it´s all that great to change the scenery that much... and wasn´t the womping willow just outside the castle in TCOS? What the heck is it doing miles away from the castle in POA? I´d clearly remember if they´ve moved it!!

[Razor]

While I liked each of the movies - I really enjoyed the books more. I hadn't read anything of that genre since I was ... well, too long ago! The funny part is that I started reading them to make sure they were suitable for my nine year old ... and now I'm hooked. The only thing I'm grateful to the movies for, is putting faces and voices at my imaginations disposal when reading the books.

HELP
I just finished The Goblet of Fire - and if anyone could help me with the following "spoilerized" questions re: that book, I would greatly appreciate it:

Why didn't/couldn't Barty Crouch/Moody have turned some every day object of Harry's into a portkey? Why go through the trouble of manipulating the whole Tri-Wizard competition?

Why was it that the first time Harry used a portkey to attend the Quiditch tourney they had to wait, holding the portkey, 'til an appointed time - yet the Tri-Wizard Cup transported him instantaneously?

Lastly, why did Snape award/deduct points if there wasn't going to be a House Cup awarded that year?

Does it really matter? These books are just plain fun.

I'm looking forward to picking up Order of The Phoenix this afternoon

[Nikiwi]

While I liked each of the movies - I really enjoyed the books more. I hadn't read anything of that genre since I was ... well, too long ago! The funny part is that I started reading them to make sure they were suitable for my nine year old ... and now I'm hooked. The only thing I'm grateful to the movies for, is putting faces and voices at my imaginations disposal when reading the books.

HELP
I just finished The Goblet of Fire - and if anyone could help me with the following "spoilerized" questions re: that book, I would greatly appreciate it:

Why didn't/couldn't Barty Crouch/Moody have turned some every day object of Harry's into a portkey? Why go through the trouble of manipulating the whole Tri-Wizard competition?

Why was it that the first time Harry used a portkey to attend the Quiditch tourney they had to wait, holding the portkey, 'til an appointed time - yet the Tri-Wizard Cup transported him instantaneously?

Lastly, why did Snape award/deduct points if there wasn't going to be a House Cup awarded that year?

Does it really matter? These books are just plain fun.

I'm looking forward to picking up Order of The Phoenix this afternoon
Well, I'll try to answer your questions as best as possible. I'm not sure if I have the black-out thing down, so if you don't want to know, don't read below.
I don't think that they were able to get anything personal of Harry's. And they couldn't be sure that someone else - say Hermione or Ron - wouldn't have picked it up first. With the Triwizard Tournament, they could mostly manipulate the other players so Harry got to the cup first.
The first time Harry used the portkey, there was a mass-gathering of wizards from all around the world. Everything had to be perfectly sycronized so things wouldn't get out of hand. Crouch and Big V couldn't be sure exactly when Harry would get to the cup, so they probably programmed it to take whoever touched it to and from the cemetary.
Also, I think there wasn't going to be a Quidditch House Cup that year. There was still going to be a regular House Cup. I think.
Did that help? I think you'll really like OotP. It's very good.

[Nini]

You´re right there Nikiwi, it´s very good! And I can´t help but wonder how that´s gonna turn out as a movie! How much are they gonna leave out?

[Nikiwi]

Yeah. You can't count on anything with this new director!

[Razor]

Well, I'll try to answer your questions as best as possible. I'm not sure if I have the black-out thing down, so if you don't want to know, don't read below.
I don't think that they were able to get anything personal of Harry's. And they couldn't be sure that someone else - say Hermione or Ron - wouldn't have picked it up first. With the Triwizard Tournament, they could mostly manipulate the other players so Harry got to the cup first.
The first time Harry used the portkey, there was a mass-gathering of wizards from all around the world. Everything had to be perfectly sycronized so things wouldn't get out of hand. Crouch and Big V couldn't be sure exactly when Harry would get to the cup, so they probably programmed it to take whoever touched it to and from the cemetary.
Also, I think there wasn't going to be a Quidditch House Cup that year. There was still going to be a regular House Cup. I think.
Did that help? I think you'll really like OotP. It's very good.

Thanks Nikiwi, sorry for all the questions - I must be in my LOST mode. http://www.lost-forum.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Just came back from picking up OotP. I'll probably start it right after dinner, and correcting the kids homework. I'm not sure how quickly I want to read it though ... the next one's not out for awhile! Maybe I should nurse it. http://www.lost-forum.com/images/smilies/wink.gif How would you rate it compared to the previous 4?

[Nikiwi]

Thanks Nikiwi, sorry for all the questions - I must be in my LOST mode. http://www.lost-forum.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Just came back from picking up OotP. I'll probably start it right after dinner, and correcting the kids homework. I'm not sure how quickly I want to read it though ... the next one's not out for awhile! Maybe I should nurse it. http://www.lost-forum.com/images/smilies/wink.gif How would you rate it compared to the previous 4?
Personally, I think it's one of the best ones. They really get deeper into character relationships. It's not just harmless fun anymore. Uhm, to me, the first few chapters - before Hogwarts - are kind of boring. But that's just me. It does get a lot more serious, though.

[Nini]

Lucky you Razor, for having the entire OotP left to read... I should be old enough to leave all this HP alone, but I´m stuck...:) Read it slowly, that´s my advice! :D

[Chelsea]

Lucky you Razor, for having the entire OotP left to read... I should be old enough to leave all this HP alone, but I´m stuck...:) Read it slowly, that´s my advice! :D

Yeah, spread it out until July, then when HBP comes out spread that book out for around 2 years because I am sure it will be that long or even longer until Book 7 (the last one!! argh)

[Razor]

Lucky you Razor, for having the entire OotP left to read... I should be old enough to leave all this HP alone, but I´m stuck...:) Read it slowly, that´s my advice! :D

Ha! You shouldn't even be allowed to read them 'til you're an adult .. that is when you need and truly appreciate the escape from reality most!

[Nini]

Hah! That´s so true! Glad I´m not the only "over-aged" reader! :)

[Tao]

Another over-aged read here... at age 24. :) I also have a friend of the family whois in her 60s reading them.

That said, did you guys see the scan of the 'teaser' poster in the nickelodeon mag? It looks like they made Dan's eyes green unless he has the same blue eye'd problem that I have! As in they never look blue until certain light hits them directly. lol But it's nice. Not diggin' the hair though... he just looks... er, girlish. (No offense to the Dan fangirls.) Rupert looks great. It's about time we had a poster where he doesn't look scared, but more thoughtful and serious. I hope this is a sign of things to come though. Meaning that we get the teaser trailer soon... which I cannot wait for.

And fair warning to any Dan fan... if he boches the graveyard scene, he will not avoid my fury.

[Eternally]

Here are some pics..they are amazing!!

http://img227.exs.cx/img227/9215/gofhorntail136pn.th.jpg (http://img227.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img227&image=gofhorntail136pn.jpg)

My God its the horntail~~~

http://img227.exs.cx/img227/1893/nickmagazineposter0mu.th.jpg (http://img227.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img227&image=nickmagazineposter0mu.jpg)

i think this is the poster you were referring to.

http://img227.exs.cx/img227/964/normalgofpromo0050hp.th.jpg (http://img227.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img227&image=normalgofpromo0050hp.jpg)

[Tao]

Yep, that's the poster! It's nice to see that Ron doesn't look scared for a change. I hope they've done that a lot. But Dan's shaggy hair has got to go. He just doesn't have the face to pull it off. Rupert and the Phelps twins do, Dan doesn't. He should go back to the PoA hairstyle which I think worked perfectly for Harry since his hair is suppose to be messy. Now it just looks like something out of the 1800s.

The dragon looks amazing as a model, so I can only imagine that the CGI one will look even better.