The Quarantine hatch door...

[parker696]

What did you all think when the hatch door flew from the sky? I assumed that the hatch had exploded big time. It takes a lot of force to shoot that 80 pound door(did you see how it took locke and jack to open it?) that high into the air. Also, because it wasnt sucked down into the magnet, i assumed that the electromagnet was shut down.

[Digits]

Yep-- thats what I thought too -- It would take alot of force to get it that high in the sky -- wha the hell happened?

[BTBAM]

well...it fell from the sky....maybe not as an explosion....but the magnetic field got so big, but when it was shut down...fell from the sky and that is where it landed?

[prushing]

it has to be from another hatch that blew off, the Swan hatch was laying on the ground, so the entire ground would of had to blown up.

[Gibey]

At first I thought it was a UFO coming down. I was like, "Oh God, oh please, no!"

[jjm]

Did you ever see "The Truman Show"?

Maybe they are all in a huge biodome being watched from above...

[Leslie_Arzt]

I think when Desmond turned the key and stopped it all the energy that built up was released, causing the door of the Swan Hatch that layed on the ground next to the opening to be forced high into the sky by the charge, and not neccesarily from an explosion

[lichnor]

Did you ever see "The Truman Show"?

Maybe they are all in a huge biodome being watched from above...

That is exactly what I thought.

If this shows turns out to be nothing but a glorified Truman show.......

[jjm]

Did you ever see "The Truman Show"?

Maybe they are all in a huge biodome being watched from above...

Don't forget the huge burst of light that was all over the island. My guess is the hatch door was above high in the sky and the electro magnetic pulse pulled of down.

[Trace_Amounts]

Maybe there was a hatch door on the ceiling of the island and it just fell off and landed on their beach when the key was turned and the bright light was light comming in from the outside, lol?

You know, the island is in a giant snowglobe :D

This couldnt be crazyer then anything that has already happened so why not.... lol.

[DarkRockGirl990]

they've put too much effort into this to be copying the Truman Show.... besides I think that would piss to many people off; kill a career that way ya know...

[Exie]

The Truman Show theory was debunked a loooong time ago.

[farmerjoe]

Flew up when the "machine" activated! Why?

And came crashing down only after it was presumably shut down or destroyed by Desmond.

If there is a big magnet on the island shouldn;t it pull everyhing inwards and down?

[portnoyd]

It does pull everything down, but the shutdown may have ejected everything up.

[JCDavey]

Flew up when the "machine" activated! Why?

And came crashing down only after it was presumably shut down or destroyed by Desmond.

If there is a big magnet on the island shouldn;t it pull everyhing inwards and down?well desmond said that turning the key would make the hatch go away, maybe turning the key reversed the magnetic field or just released the pull completely , imagine it like pulling a rubberband with a piece of paper on it then releasing all that energy and it springing backward, if the hatch was imploding maybe the release caused it to spring backwards violently and the hatch door seperated


i don't know

[waterbottle]

I was hoping that the magnet would pull all the guns from the Others' hands. Foiled!

[Exie]

Yeah, it was really hard to tell if there was an actual explosion, or what.

[Dlboy]

I was thinking that maybe that wasn't the hatch door we saw earlier ... Maybe that hatch DID come from above. If the snowglobe theory plays out, and the fact stands that everythnig was getting sucked in by the magnet, maybe the hatch on top of the "snowglobe" gave away and is the one that came crashing down.

It was the only thing we actually saw fall out of the sky.

[Sir Lag A Lot]

I think that there was an opposite magnetic field when Desmond shut down the Swan. The only reason the blast door flew up in the air is because it's the only piece of metal on the outside of the hatch. Everything else would have flown away from the wall and stayed inside the hatch.

[farmerjoe]

But we saw it earlier in the episode when eko is emerging from a hatch - presume on purpose... It was definitely on the ground.

[Mikey]

I'm thinking that hatch door was from some other hatch

[antera309]

We don't know what sort of state the hatch is in. Maybe the whole thing exploded. I'm sure Locke and Eko got out in time. Hopefully Desmond too.

[Javaman]

Could anyone tell what caused the light that Locke saw coming from the hatch before he opened it? It couldn't have been due to the key since that seems like a one shot deal.

[Axian]

What pisses me off is that Charlie stumbled back to the beach/camp in the day time and everyone was like "Are you OK??" and he said it was hard to tell.. blah blah blah... the next scene is at night they are all around the campfire and he is getting his groove on with Claire... but...

WHY DIDNT HE GET THE REST OF THE LOSTIES TO GO BACK TO THE HATCH AND SEE IF LOCKE, EKO AND DESMOND WERE OK????? :shock:

I was screaming at the TV... "GO HELP LOCKE AND EKO YOU RETARD!!!!" :confused:

hehe sorry about the caps.

-Ax

[#Ash]

Was there an actual explosion? The noise didnt seems right for an explosion. They were reacting to it like it was really high pitched or something.

[bizon21]

It the same hatch door that Eko saw; the camera always shoots from an angle that forces the viewer to pay attention, and when Eko came out the hatch, the camera went directly to the hatch door.

Which leads me to believe that if there is a huge magnet underground and can be controlled, rather regulated, from the hatch, along with the the hatch door being launched to the other side of the Island, I think that the Island is covered in some sort of magnetic dome where the magnetic dome and the magnet underground work together. Something (magnetism?) pulled the hatch door towards the sky from the OUTSIDE!.

[Axian]

Could anyone tell what caused the light that Locke saw coming from the hatch before he opened it? It couldn't have been due to the key since that seems like a one shot deal.

It was Desmond turning on a light... After he heard Lock pounding on the Hatch.

[Axian]

Supposedly there is an electro magnet under all the concrete in/under/beside/near the Hatch...

This Elecrto magnet builds up a charge that much be "discharged" every 108 minutes...

The "Button" Disccharges this "Charge" safely before it overloads and spirals out of control...

The "Charge" after reaching a critical point - begins to get more and more powerful at an exponential rate after the 108 minutes is up.

heres where speculation begins:

The Key the desmond has "activates" a failsafe that releases all the built up energy in one shot - destroying the electro-magnet(?) and ending the experiment (Makes all this..the hatch.. go away).

When you build up an elecrtomagnetic charge as big as the one in the hatch all the metal near it is attracted to the source.... and all of these objects build up a magnetic charge themselves. Much like rubbing a magnet on a needle - it becomes magnatized.

My theory is that when Desmond turned the key... it discharged all that energy and it reversed the polarity of the elecro magnet in the hatch... and every one know what happens when you have 2 magnets with opposite polarities near each other... they push away from each other. Well the Metal Hatch door outside the hatch - not being anchored to the hatch anymore... got Launched into the sky.

:D

My mother would be so proud... I did learn something in school.

now why the hatch door landed in the losties's camp is kinda odd...

discuss..

-Ax

[waterbottle]

When you build up an elecrtomagnetic charge as big as the one in the hatch all the metal near it is attracted to the source.... and all of these objects build up a magnetic charge themselves. Much like rubbing a magnet on a needle - it becomes magnatized.

My theory is that when Desmond turned the key... it discharged all that energy and it reversed the polarity of the elecro magnet in the hatch... and every one know what happens when you have 2 magnets with opposite polarities near each other... they push away from each other. Well the Metal Hatch door outside the hatch - not being anchored to the hatch anymore... got Launched into the sky.


In my experience, when you reverse the polarity of one of two magnetic objects, they do repel each other, but only for long enough time for the smaller object to flip to its attractive side then stick back to the other magnet. That is to say that it wouldn't go flying the other direction, it would flip to the opposite side.

[darianwiccan]

In my experience, when you reverse the polarity of one of two magnetic objects, they do repel each other, but only for long enough time for the smaller object to flip to its attractive side then stick back to the other magnet. That is to say that it wouldn't go flying the other direction, it would flip to the opposite side.

True, but I think you are thinking on too small a scale. If this electromagnet (remember, they said it was an electro-magnetic anomoly) is powerful enough to start sucking in every piece of metal within the hatch, the EMP caused by shutting down the system would most likely throw EVERYTHING metal in the area away very quickly. And an EMP can very easily travel through the ground, which would explain how the quarantine door got launched into the stratosphere. :)

[UniqueFrequency]

Did you ever see "The Truman Show"?

Maybe they are all in a huge biodome being watched from above...

this is what i said in the "snowglobe" thread. it does seem that way, doesn't it?

[Javaman]

I'm more inclined to believe that the door was thrown due to magnetic reasons.(however that is possible) Had the hatch blown up surely there would have been a sizable earthquake or something to that extent. If that is the case Locke, Eko and Desmond would have been lucky to survive the magnetic shrapnal thrown about inside the hatch.

[Entwinedscylla]

That is to say that it wouldn't go flying the other direction, it would flip to the opposite side.

Hence the whole... flying up into the air and crashing down at speed that seemed entirely too fast? Maybe as soon as the charge lessened it "flipped" and came soaring back to the ground trying to latch onto that magnetic feild again?

[WingMan]

It was being pulled up by the satellite i guess:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4083/uplink2hu.th.jpg (http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uplink2hu.jpg)

[waterbottle]

True, but I think you are thinking on too small a scale. If this electromagnet (remember, they said it was an electro-magnetic anomoly) is powerful enough to start sucking in every piece of metal within the hatch, the EMP caused by shutting down the system would most likely throw EVERYTHING metal in the area away very quickly. And an EMP can very easily travel through the ground, which would explain how the quarantine door got launched into the stratosphere. :)

Yeah, shutting down the system (somehow discharging the magnet) could cause everything to fly away from it. I don't know enough about magnetics to know what happens when you discharge a magnet, although my guess would be that it would be like a giant lightning bolt (for a magnet of their size). In their case, I would guess that the giant lightning bolt would travel from the ground where the magnet was and into the air. That would actually explain the bright light, the deafening noise, and the hatch door flying in the direction of the lightning... but it would probably start a huge fire.. or something. I don't know.

However, the guy I was responding to was suggesting the objects were flying away because Desmond's actions reversed the polarity of the magnet, causing the other now-magnetized objects to be repelled. I was saying that if that were the case, the hatch door would likely fly into the air a few feet, switch to its attractive side, and fly back down again... if it would even leave the ground at all, which I'm not sure it would.

Hence the whole... flying up into the air and crashing down at speed that seemed entirely too fast? Maybe as soon as the charge lessened it "flipped" and came soaring back to the ground trying to latch onto that magnetic feild again?

I think that the flipping of sides would be more or less instantaneous. Also, the hatch door would likely not escape the magnetic field before being pulled down again. If that were the case, the hatch door would probably be stuck to the ground if they tried to move it. I also think it would have been pulled near the hatch and not have flown to near the beach if a magnet near the hatch were pulling it down.

But I'm not a professional at this, just someone who has experimented with magnets on a small scale and taken a few Physics classes.. I don't know how much of what I'm saying is close to the truth and how much is just bad guesses.. so I'm gonna give it a rest, lol.

[Biderbeck]

Yeah, shutting down the system (somehow discharging the magnet) could cause everything to fly away from it. I don't know enough about magnetics to know what happens when you discharge a magnet, although my guess would be that it would be like a giant lightning bolt (for a magnet of their size). In their case, I would guess that the giant lightning bolt would travel from the ground where the magnet was and into the air. That would actually explain the bright light, the deafening noise, and the hatch door flying in the direction of the lightning... but it would probably start a huge fire.. or something. I don't know.

However, the guy I was responding to was suggesting the objects were flying away because Desmond's actions reversed the polarity of the magnet, causing the other now-magnetized objects to be repelled. I was saying that if that were the case, the hatch door would likely fly into the air a few feet, switch to its attractive side, and fly back down again... if it would even leave the ground at all, which I'm not sure it would.



I think that the flipping of sides would be more or less instantaneous. Also, the hatch door would likely not escape the magnetic field before being pulled down again. If that were the case, the hatch door would probably be stuck to the ground if they tried to move it. I also think it would have been pulled near the hatch and not have flown to near the beach if a magnet near the hatch were pulling it down.

But I'm not a professional at this, just someone who has experimented with magnets on a small scale and taken a few Physics classes.. I don't know how much of what I'm saying is close to the truth and how much is just bad guesses.. so I'm gonna give it a rest, lol.
it would have to be pushed before it could be pulled, i think it was on its way back when it landed in the beach. remember this is a very powerful geologic anomoly that has been tampered with... and speaking of which has the bermuda triangle been brought up in any discussions???