View Full Version : Texans will not draft Reggie Bush
The Czar
04-28-2006, 10:20 PM
They signed Mario Williams today!
This is the best news ever!
The Saints better draft him!!!
Brees + Bush = AHH YES ORGASM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmItg1RZOzHWB4EE9b49WRhDubYF?slug=ap-nfldraft&prov=ap&type=lgns
LadyDelish
04-28-2006, 10:30 PM
OMG! That's kind've a shocker! Williams is said to be a cross between Julius Peppers and Lawrence Taylor, so I guess he's pretty good. But I wanted Vince :eek:
kid_amy
04-28-2006, 10:36 PM
I know that is so weird, I really want to know what the Texans fan reaction is going to be, when I read the news I was shocked :eek: , but like five minutes later I was like "I guess":cool:
chamberk
04-29-2006, 06:07 AM
Who would turn down Reggie Bush? Seriously.
The Czar
04-29-2006, 06:22 AM
IDK, Reggie is going to be an amazing player if not one of the best ever, he's the best back to come into the NFL since LT and Ricky Williams (when he first came into the league that is)
Razor
04-29-2006, 08:13 AM
I'm not surprised. :cool:
The Houston fans may not be happy since everyone knows Reggie Bush. He is the "sexier" pick - featured on just about every ESPN highlight reel film, and for good reason. He can do some electrifying things rushing, catching and returning the ball, but the truth is that a running back’s shelf life in the NFL is generally short. And if they do survive the pounding of the game, they don't win titles, especially for teams like the Texans who have neglected to assemble an offensive line good enough to be called mediocre.
Has any runner taken at the top of the draft ever taken his team to the Super Bowl, let alone won it?
"Defense wins championships." is not just a hyped slogan. Great defensive ends who are big, strong, fast, agile, athletic and genuine difference makers are one of the rarest commodities out there. However, an awful lot of Super Bowl teams have done just fine with running backs picked up further down in the draft.
The Texans already have Dominick Davis at running back, who averages better than four yards a carry and 1,000 a season. Now all they need to do is start collecting offensive linemen, and perhaps, a prospect wide receiver deeper in the draft.
The Czar
04-29-2006, 01:11 PM
Bears had the best defense last year
They got pounded to the dirt cause they had a mega-crap offense
Razor
04-29-2006, 02:09 PM
LOL. Da' Bears only had the "statistically" best defense. Weighted heavily by the fact that they played a weak schedule (benefitting from their previous years poor record) weaker conference, and offensively inept division (2 games each with Minn, Det. and G.B., none of which ranked in the top 50% in scoring or total offense in the entire NFL:rolleyes:). Put Reggie Bush on the Bears ... and they still end up pounded into the dirt. IMO, They (as currently constituted) would be better off with a bigger, 30-35 carry (clock control) running back.
The Czar
04-29-2006, 03:02 PM
LOL. Da' Bears only had the "statistically" best defense. Weighted heavily by the fact that they played a weak schedule (benefitting from their previous years poor record) weaker conference, and offensively inept division (2 games each with Minn, Det. and G.B., none of which ranked in the top 50% in scoring or total offense in the entire NFL:rolleyes:). Put Reggie Bush on the Bears ... and they still end up pounded into the dirt. IMO, They (as currently constituted) would be better off with a bigger, 30-35 carry (clock control) running back.
You're saying the bears weren't the best Defense you're crazy and you never saw them play more than 2 games. They spanked the hell out of the Panthers and pretty much everyone else. Put Bush on the bears they're a superbowl team cause their QB can rely on him
Razor
04-29-2006, 04:02 PM
You're saying the bears weren't the best Defense you're crazy and you never saw them play more than 2 games. They spanked the hell out of the Panthers and pretty much everyone else. Put Bush on the bears they're a superbowl team cause their QB can rely on him
LOL, I didn't say they sucked, just that their statistical rank as #1 was flawed. They only played 1 top 10 offense all season (Cincy) and LOST. They played 4 teams during the entire regular season that went on to make the playoffs, and went 1-3 (the only win was against Carolina - who pounded the snot out of them in their playoff game).
One could also argue that the Bears playing their home games outdoors (rain, wind, snow), on grass, and in a cold climate - are all factors which tend to work to reduced scoring (so says Vegas anyway;)).
Anyway, you got your draft wish. Good luck with Reggie. I'm sure the Saints will do much better than their 3 win season last year - though I'm thinking "real" home games will factor into that more (overall) than Reggie will.
The Czar
04-29-2006, 04:10 PM
LOL, I didn't say they sucked, just that their statistical rank as #1 was flawed. They only played 1 top 10 offense all season (Cincy) and LOST. They played 4 teams during the entire regular season that went on to make the playoffs, and went 1-3 (the only win was against Carolina - who pounded the snot out of them in their playoff game).
One could also argue that the Bears playing their home games outdoors (rain, wind, snow), on grass, and in a cold climate - are all factors which tend to work to reduced scoring (so says Vegas anyway;)).
Anyway, you got your draft wish. Good luck with Reggie. I'm sure the Saints will do much better than their 3 win season last year - though I'm thinking "real" home games will factor into that more (overall) than Reggie will.
Who's the best defense then? Pittsburg? the Wildcard? lol
Razor
04-29-2006, 04:17 PM
Who's the best defense then? Pittsburg? the Wildcard? lol
Do you think they won it all with big play offense?
By the way, the overall best D (per NFL.com) was given to Tampa(?). I have no idea why they award it to the team giving up the least yards per game. Weird.
The Czar
04-29-2006, 04:33 PM
Do you think they won it all with big play offense?
By the way, the overall best D (per NFL.com) was given to Tampa(?). I have no idea why they award it to the team giving up the least yards per game. Weird.
Ahhh I see so the Pats have the best D? :P If they had good ol' Rodney Harrison probably
Razor
04-29-2006, 05:16 PM
Ahhh I see so the Pats have the best D? :P If they had good ol' Rodney Harrison probably
It looked good enough against the Aints last year ... LOL. :giggle:
It was a pretty darn good "Red Zone" D when they were winning championships ... hence the "was". Perhaps too many missing pieces right now. If history holds ... they'll make a couple key pick ups after the draft. I'm still hedging right now though.;)
The Czar
04-29-2006, 08:40 PM
It looked good enough against the Aints last year ... LOL. :giggle:
It was a pretty darn good "Red Zone" D when they were winning championships ... hence the "was". Perhaps too many missing pieces right now. If history holds ... they'll make a couple key pick ups after the draft. I'm still hedging right now though.;)
Hey I wasn't a Saints fan last year, I was a Chargers fan..and you guys got SPANKED what was it like 42-17? lmao, Brees went to the Saints thats why I'm a Saints fan now..
And I don;t wanna get into the Charger's defense, friggin' ugly, I hate their defense.. can't close a game vs. the long ball if their lives depended on it
Vashner
04-29-2006, 09:32 PM
Texans are dumb for passing up on this guy.
honestjoe
04-29-2006, 11:26 PM
i believe the key man responsible for the Texans not picking Bush, is their GM, Charlie Casserly. For at least ten years Casserly was the GM here for the Washington Redskins, during which we made one bad trade after another. Casserly peed away many of our picks and got players who ultimately never manifested any of their potential while playing as Redskins. Much of that credit can be given directly to Charlie Casserly for not understanding what was and what was not a "good fit" for our team's success. Casserly has no idea how to shape a team, this has been evident to me from as far back as when the skinz acquired Heath Shuler from Tennessee. A huge reason (imo) opinion for the Redskins new found succes is Casserly's absence. Allowing a coach to make personnel decisions (as is the case with Joe Gibbs) allows for a team to work towards athletic success. Casserly is void of any real football experience. He is just a "suit" as might say, he makes corporate minded decisions, with no understanding of how to form a team.
Now it seems he is making the same errors in judgement, but to the detriment of the Texans. I hate to say it, and time may prove me wrong, but i think the Texan's woes are really just beginning. With Casserly making all the key personnel decisions, Texas has a long hard road of "poor fitting" players (and coahces!) for some time to come.
(imo) Not only was Reggie Bush a sound athletic pick for Texas, but a good financial one as well. Bush would have sold seats and brought some fans back to a franchise that really needed it. They could have even picked him and possibly traded him further down the draft and gained more than what they ended up with. By that i dont mean Mario Williams isnt a good player, but that so many teams would like to have had shot a Reggie Bush that they would have given up future picks just to get him.
but what do i know? im just another couch quarterback (and coach and gm). Im still ticked off that the Skins gave up Lavar Arrington. But i am happy we got Randle El from Pitt. Things are looking good for the Skins in the upcoming season, but i cant say the same for Texans. So i think not picking Bush will turn out to be a mistake for them. If only they could get rid of Casserly, then they might have chance...
for now it will have to be the Dallas Cowboys who "represent" Texas in the NFL...
:p
EDIT:
to confirm my suspicions, i did some googling and found out that there is a huge group calling for his ousting, but the news has stayed low-key and mostly in and around Houston sports media circles. Search these key words (no quotes): casserly Richard justice (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=casserly+Richard+justice+&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t-1&x=wrt)
and you will see some of the controversy surrounding him. BTW i had no idea that anyone other than myself understood how poor a decision maker Casserly really was (and is). But it turns out a bunch of people are already on to him in Texas as well.
Deadman
05-01-2006, 01:02 PM
I cant complain about the draft. My Pats came out pretty good IMO.
Razor
12-14-2007, 07:01 AM
Still to early to grade that draft ... but:
The Houston Texans do not appear to be quite the buffoons many so-called experts made them out to be. Mario Williams is currently second in the NFL in sacks - with 13 (only .5 sacks behind Patrick Kearney in first place), While Bush, as some feared, could not stay healthy and is done for the rest of the year (and didn't do much before he was hurt).
The Czar
01-31-2008, 10:44 PM
Chargers have had the best drafting in the last few years. I think reggie bush was a better idea still. He plays a bigger role in the Saints offense then mario williams plays in the Texans defense. mario williams did have a big year but he was hardly mentioned in the media though the saints are still ahead of the texans
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