Wrestle this!

[Deadman]

Yeah I know wrestling isnt "real" but I have been a fan since I was a kid. I know not one soul who watches it everyweek like I do. So I created this thread to bring us wrestling fans together. Here we can talk about who we like or dislike, matches we want to see, you get the idea. Lets start with this...

What solo wrestler and tag team do you think influenced wrestling to be where it is today?

I would have to say Hulk Hogan the god of the squared circle and The Legion of Doom.

Either this is gonna be an awsome thread or I am a geek.

[Morgan Celestine]

well I guess i'm a geek too *dances* :)
I loved wrestling since I was kid too, I used to buy all the video games...infact I still do buy all the video games. :) I watch both Raw and Smackdown every week and tape the ppv's.

What solo wrestler and tag team do you think influenced wrestling to be where it is today?

I agree with you on both counts there however aswell as hulk hogan I think Ric Flair, The Rock and Stone Cold heavily influenced it also.

RIP Eddie Guerrero, his death deeply upset me and I miss watching him alot. He was a great wrestler. :) Latino Heat Burns 4life

[Deadman]

I just got Smackdown vs. Raw 2006. I love to CAW and then play through the season. I also agree with you on your additions to the list. I would like to add Rowdy Roddy Piper, The Hart Family, The Ultimate Warrior, and of course Andre the Giant. What in the world happened to Macho Man? I miss that guy. It is sad to see wrestlers come and go. I miss Eddie too. He was just coming into his own which makes it that much sadder.
I cant wait for the Hell in a Cell between Undertaker and Orton. Hell in a Cell matches are so much fun to watch.

[Morgan Celestine]

the Hart family...yeah they definatly influenced it, I guess the Mc Mahon family did also. after all, with out them where would the wwe be.
I love S vs r '06, I like the new match editions.
I'm looking forward to the elimination chamber at new years rev. I love those matchs, they only come once a year. should be fab.

[Deadman]

I always thought Shane O Mac was a great wrestler. He was able to get more air off the top ropes than most pros ive seen. I like the fact the on SVR your guy has a voice in Season mode although none of them sound like I want. The new matches are cool too. The fulfill your fantasy is kinda weird though. Did you see Michael Hayes on Monday? I like when they bring in old school guys for a little spotlight. Its good to get updated on what they are doing. Have you read any of the books that have been put out? Have a Nice Day-Mick Foley is an interesting and very funny read. I have a lot of respect for him. He has put his body through so much just so the fans can get a great match. Hes another guy I miss seeing in the ring.

[Morgan Celestine]

I've never been a great fan of Mick Foley. He's a great wrestler but I never really liked him. I've flicked through his book once or twice and I read some parts of it. I like it when they bring legends out, it's good to see some of the older superstars back where they belong.

[Deadman]

There is no way that we are the only two people on this forum who watch wrestling. Where the hell is everybody? Anyway, I read The Rocks book too. Not too bad but not as funny as Micks. I miss Hogan also. He is the man. Yes hes old, yes hes past his prime, but hes still Hulk Hogan. And I cant stand Kurt Angle anymore. Gold medals mean nothing when your acting like an ass. He used to be pretty funny when he was face but being a heel just doesnt work for him.

[sapphireambition]

I LOVE wrestling. I was a pro wrestler for a little over a year, actually. *snatches wrestling geek throne* :p

I credit Hulk Hogan with playing a crucial role in making wrestling mainstream, but I think that Ric Flair was the most influential figure in the sport, followed closely by Jerry Lawler. Both have/had amazing charisma and rabid fan followings, and they're both total class acts who have never "sold out". For tag teams, I agree on LOD. The Rockers and the Hart Foundation were great, too.

And gah, I missed last Monday's Raw -- Michael Hayes was on?! *cries and hums Freebird* VERY cool to see some of these legends making appearances again.

[Morgan Celestine]

I agree angle sucks ass, he constantly annoys me now, every time I see his face I wanna punch him :P Hogan was great...I really loved his entrance music, it rocked :P
my fave present wrestler is Randy Orton, I love him, I loved evolution...even though they were supposed to be the bad guys, I loved them...they would have been better without HHH...control freak............it seems that we are the only in here who like wrestling, wait that can't be possible...there's thousand of members on this site o_O.......oh wait here comes another...yay!!

[xannaxberryx]

My brother is completely addicted to wrestling, so occasionally I watch the pay per views with him. I have to disagree I love HHH! But thats just me lol. :D

[Deadman]

Michael Hayes came out with Sgt. Slaughter to get Edge out of the ring. He was out of control talking about Ric Flair and how he needs to retire and how old he is, etc. etc. Hayes got in his face yelling at him about how the new wrestlers think they are the sh*t and that they dont have any respect for what Flair or Hayes had done for the company. They didnt have limos waiting for them or people to take care of everything for them. Then Hayes said how many main events have you been in or how many World Heavyweight titles have you had. Edge said something about Hayes partner being dead. Hayes was so angry at this point he went off on Edge punching him in the face. Lita jumped in to help and they both beat up Hayes and Slaughter. Edge grabbed a chair hitting Hayes on the head. I cant wait til next week to see what happens. I wouldnt mind seeing that match.

Anyway are you serious that you were a wrestler? What was your persona? And I loved the Rockers too.

I liked the whole Evolution thing also. But I like most bad guy groups. Like the n.W.o. and DX. HHH needs to shave though. He just doesnt look right. I liked Orton until he started messin with the Undertaker. Lets see how bad he is after that Hell in a Cell match thats coming up. Sorry but Undertaker is gonna want revenge and he always gets it.

[Morgan Celestine]

I liked Orton until he started messin with the Undertaker. Lets see how bad he is after that Hell in a Cell match thats coming up. Sorry but Undertaker is gonna want revenge and he always gets it.

see I don't understand why people do that. I mean they like somebody but as soon as they start messing with someone they also like they hate them. I mean I like Taker but just cos he and Orton have a rivalry doesn't mean i'm now gonna start hating him. I like both of them but I would prefer Orton to win. Sure Taker always gets revenge, but don't ya think his act is getting a bit old now..I mean the whole "I will haunt you by turning of the lights and playing scary music" it was good the first few times but now he needs something new. I loved it when Orton set the casket on fire that just totally rocked but I also loved it how Taker came out of the Casket at SS. :)

[Deadman]

I should have worded that differently. Its not that I dont like Orton. He is a great wrestler, but you just dont mess with the Undertaker. I like the rivalry between the two. I just think Undertaker is the baddest man in the buisness. And yeah him coming out of the flaming casket was too cool.

[Morgan Celestine]

Yeah, Taker is definatly the baddest man :)
which show do you prefer, smackdown or raw?
Personally I prefer smackdown. I like the superstars at smackdown better than the ones at Raw, smackdown has better story lines.

I was on S vs R last night in GM mode and Eddie has been injured and is out for 11 weeks :( :( :(

[Deadman]

Smackdown definately has the better show. The wrestlers are better, the storylines are better. I found out that Brock Lesner will be coming back in a couple of years. He is wrestling in Japan. When he quit to pursue his football career his contract said he cant come back for so long. He didnt make it in football and now has to wait untill his contract says he can come back. Not sure how long but a couple of years I think.

[Deadman]

Found some interesting news. Lex Luger was arrested for a warrant. Something that had to do with steroids found in his home. He might start a new wrestling league with Sting. Macho Man is back in the picture as he is working on a rap album. Im sure that is going to be awsome.... Sid Vicious is in Japan wrestling trying to get back into it after a bad leg injury. I have seen the video of him breaking his leg. He landed on it wrong after a top rope attack. His leg below the knee was just flopping around like jell-o. I hope he makes a full recovery. Do you remember The Patriot? He was around for awhile about five years ago. He was a cool guy and then was gone. Well, he got into lots of pill popping and steroids. He is clean now and is now a car salesman. Stevie Ray, former tag partner of Booker T is retired and owns a car wash. Hillbilly Jim has a radio talk show. Ted Dibiase is a preacher. I guess thats it, thought you might want to know about all this stuff. I also missed Smackdown last week and Raw last night so if anything interesting happened please let me know.

[xannaxberryx]

Wow. It must be obvious im not a hardcore wrestling fan, I didnt know who half of those were! :eek:

[Morgan Celestine]

Smackdown definately has the better show. The wrestlers are better, the storylines are better. I found out that Brock Lesner will be coming back in a couple of years. He is wrestling in Japan. When he quit to pursue his football career his contract said he cant come back for so long. He didnt make it in football and now has to wait untill his contract says he can come back. Not sure how long but a couple of years I think.

yay, I loved lesner, he was so great. His rivalry with goldberg totally rocked, I never liked goldberg...Lesnar rules. Actually i was watching one of his matchs the other night from about a year and a half ago...or something like that...anyway it was against paul london (LOL!!!) it was paul's debut match and the title was on the line. honestly I laughed for hours after that match, it was so bloody hilarious. All I can remember is Vince Mcmahon saying before the match to Paul London "I can see your name now in flashing lights- Paul London WWE champion" :rotflol: :rotflol: :crackup:
needless to say that match was a joke, lesnar was obviously gonna win but still it was funny :)

[Deadman]

I think the funniest thing I ever saw was when Shane O Mac and Angle had a match. Shane had to throw Angle through a glass window, but when he tried to toss him through it, it didnt break. They stood there for a few seconds like "oh no, what do we do". Shane had to smash Angles head against it like five times before it finally broke. So funny.

[Gabs]

Big wrestling fan here. Haven't been able to watch in almost a year, so I'm pretty much out of the loop with what's gone on.

Was shocked when Guerrerro died... he was so good. I was never a huge fan of his character, but there's no denying his talent.

Huge Jeff Hardy fan here, I've loved what I've gotten to see of his TNA stuff. Also love Lita, Rob Van Dam, Randy Orton, Charlie Haas, Batista... there are a lot of really good athletes in right now.

Anyone big on the video games? Up till now I've bought all of the WWE PS2 games, but I won't be buying SDvR '06 anytime soon. I rented it, and was just disappointed, most pointedly with the fact that female wrestlers are already shut out of playing season mode, but now they can't even do ladders, cages, chamber, etc etc in exhibition. I've got a long running female CAW, and if I can't even play her in the fun exhibitions, I'm not laying down $50 for the game. Maybe a year from now when it's $20, we'll see. ;)

[Deadman]

Yay, another wrestling fan! I also like the new TNA show. I havent been able to see it that many times but I like what I have seen. I watched it last week and they said Sting was gonna be on the show. I hope so because he was one of my favorite wrestlers on WCW. One of the few I liked. I havent seen Jeff on there yet so hopefully he will be there this week.
There is a huge match at the next Pay-Per-View. Its a Elimination Chamber Match between Cena, Angle, Kane, The Masterpiece, Shawn Michaels, and Carlito for the WWE Championship. I could do without Carlito but I hope to watch it anyway.
I also rented the 06 SVR and didnt really enjoy it. I cant get Jake the Snake without unlocking him on the PSP and then transfering it to my PS2. Strange. The new matches are pretty cool though. The Royal Rumble is alot harder too. My girlfriend likes to play and she thinks it sucks you cant use the females either. I am a guy so I never use them so its not that big a deal to me, but I can see the problem in it. I tried to do the GM mode but its alot harder than it should be. Also some of the challenges are immpossible. The playing possum move makes me laugh. Its so intense about it.
I dont get Smackdown though which sucks because I miss out on all that stuff. I want Undertaker!
Yeah so sad to hear of Eddies death. Its hard to see wrestlers come and go.
I wish Cena would lose the belt already. I am putting my money on Shawn to win it at the PPV. Its time he got another shot at it. He doesnt have too much longer in this buisness.

Anyway gotta go, but I am glad to see another fan on this thread. I love wresling but there arent too many fans here. Hope to see more posts.

[G3T L0ST]

I used to be a huge wrestling fan, back in the WWF Attitude days. Now, it just isnt as good so I don't obsess about being home to watch it. If I am home I'll tune into it but wont record it or anything. My favorite wrestlers are Randy Orton and Batista. Orton is my all time favorite though, tied with The Rock. I wish The Rock would come back for a couple months or so. WWE has gone down hill ever since they bought out wCw. I liked wCw a lot more than WWF.

[Deadman]

If you liked WCW better than WWF, then you might like the TNA league that started up. I dont get to watch Orton cuz he is on Smackdown, and I dont get that station. But I watched TNA this weekend and it looks like Sting is coming soon! Yay!

[the mad slasher]

Another wrestling fan here, though only for the past four years. My college roomie, a former indie wrestler herself, got me into it. Unfortunately I came in at the end of some great times, such as the Hardy Boyz and E&C, but thankfully she taped a lot of it.

My all time favorite wrestler would have to be Shane Helms in any gimmick at all. He's good on the mic, he's a talented wrestler, and his backstage skits are some of the funniest things out there. I'm also a fan of Divas... that are wrestlers. Chyna, Victoria, Molly, Jazz, Gail... I love 'em.

<Insert rant about the Diva contests and T&A Divas here>

<Insert rant about strong dislike for Amy Dumas/Lita here>

I wish they'd do more with the cruiser weights, they're my favorites. Paul and Brian work so well together.

[Deadman]

Welcome fan of the squared circle.

Shane Helms is an exceptional wrestler. He showed up on Monday Night Raw. Him and the King Jerry Lawler seem to have a fued going.

I think Chyna is wresling in Japan last I heard. I am glad to see that the Divas are actually doing some cool things now. They have had some great matches as of late. I cant wait for the Bra and Panties Elimination Matches coming up.

Jeff Hardy is wrestling in the TNA league. It was a shame the Hardy Boys broke up. They were a great team. Christian is also there wrestling. I liked E & C when they were a tag team, but as solo wrestlers, they arent as cool to me anymore.

Cruiserweights dont get the attentiion they deserve. There are some awsome wrestlers in that class that get looked over quite a bit. I dont even know who the cruiserweight champ is now that I think about it.

And what ever happened to the Hardcore Championship? That was my favorite belt. And you know the matches were going to be good.

[Mr Totally Sweet]

I wasn't a big fan of the Hardcore belt. The comedy Crash moments were good, but t seemed to replace artistry, storytelling and athleticism with blood. That said I do enjoy a good hardcore match now and again.

So what did you think of the rumble? I'm glad Rey won, hutted Cena retained and will always have Angle as number 1 (and henry worse then everyone, wrestler or not, I hate thatt useless piece of ****).

[Deadman]

I missed evrything that has happened in the last coulpe of weeks due to girfriend problems. I did catch the last match on Monday though. I really wish Cena would lose his belt already. I think he is a great wrestler, and I actually like his whole image. I would like to see someone unexpected get it that doesnt suck like Edge.

So Rey won though huh? That is awsome. He is an amazing wrestler. So he gets a shot at the title yeah? Cena and Rey at Wrestlemania. I could see that.

Have you been watching TNA? I saw that Sting came back, wrestled at a PPV, then came on the next week and said thanks to all his fans and goodbye. Then he left! I havent seen what heppened since then. I did catch the last ten seconds of the last show. It was one of the Canadian guys backstage saying something like, Sting isnt gone. Just wondering if you knew anything else about this.

Good to see another fan posting here though. Not many people stick around this thread. Yall come back now, ya hear!

[Mr Totally Sweet]

Don't watch TNA. Was very tempted when Christian went over, but there's not enough time n my life for 2 wrestling promotions y'know. I can't believe you said you like Cena though, but fair enough I'm not here to judge, but I'd take Edge over him any day of the week.

[Gabs]

Why did Christian go to TNA? I only heard about that at the end of January, so it was a bit of a surprise to me. :rolleyes: I'd love to see him and Jeff work a program together again though.

[Mr Totally Sweet]

Because he was being continually dedpushed and made to job in the wwe. Ridiculous considering the amount of pops he was getting.

[Deadman]

Christian is a lot of fun to watch now that he is on TNA. He is back to being funny again, making fun of others. I always liked him as that type of character. I still havent seen Jeff yet on the show. He is on the roster I found on the web though.

[Ilovelightsticks]

I too am a fan although i do not like the way WWE is heading, I preferably watch TNA now which is a very cool show, with the octagon ring, the x division, great wrestlers, great showmen.

I really like their cruiserweight division such as Amazing Red, Jeff Hardy, AJ Styles, Chris Sabin (his finisher is insane). I really think they need to stop Samoan Joe, that dude is just sick.


I really think Shane should take over for Vince now, I believe he could breathe new life into the WWE. Shane is my favorite wrestler.


Anyone got Smackdown Vs Raw 06 and wanna play online sometimes pm your online name and what time we could possibly meet up and take on a few online punks.

[Deadman]

TNA has been getting really good lately. I missed it the last two weeks though. What happened to Sting? I still havent seen where that led to. I would love to play 06 online but I dont have mine hooked up yet. As soon as I do, I will definately let you know. My CAW Deadman is one bad dude!

[lost/wwe fan]

Thanks for the email Deadman. Alex Shelley filmed home footage of Sting but got caught and Sting said he will be at the next pay-per-view. Now Jarret is calling up someone to help him.
My favorite wrestlers would have to be Rey, Taker, and Angle on Smackdown and Cena, Benjamin, and RVd on Raw but Eugene is the funniest character. On TNA, i love the x-division. Those moves they do are awesome. The canadian destroyer is insane. My favorite wrestlers on TNA would be Styles, Lethal, and Christian.

[Deadman]

No problem, thanks for the TNA info.
My favorite wrestlers on Raw are Shawn Michaels, HHH, and Kane. On Smackdown I totally agree with you on Rey, Angle and The Undertaker, or The Underweartaker as my friends call him.
The x-division is very cool. Its like a whole new kind of wrestling. Styles and Samoa Joe are bad@$$. I dont get to watch it every week though which sucks. I have yet to see Jeff Hardy or The Prince of Punk wrestle. I miss Jeff and I just want to see what The Prince can do. He looks like he can wail on someone.
Do you watch Backyard Wrestling at all? I watch a little bit of it. Some of it can be cool but some of it is so stupid. Just curious what you think about those guys.

Anyway, welcome to the thread and keep on posting. Later.

[lost/wwe fan]

I've seen some of backyard wrestling. Some of those things are crazy. I saw a guy jump off a basketball goal and splash onto a guy on a table. It was insane. But those guys are crazy.
I used to really like Kane. Used to be my favorite but he seems to have gotten weaker recently. He isn't the monster he used to be and i don't like that. I hated the Lita/Kane marriage and pregancy. Really stupid story to involve Kane with that.
I saw Shannon Moore wrestle two times. I used to watch the weekly pay-per-view TNA had. Saw a lot of Jarret matchs. But i don't like him. One person i have never seen wrestle on TNA is Christian. He only seems to wrestle on pay-per-views.

[Deadman]

I think backyard wrestling is so funny at times. I watched a guy jump of a trampoline on a guy stretched out on a table. He hit the guy but mostly just hit the side of the table with his elbow. He jumped around holding his elbow for awhile and then tried it again and did the same exact thing.

I know what you mean about Kane being weaker now. He is still a powerhouse, but he doesnt have the same aura around him. I miss the old Kane.

Jeff Jarret sucks. I think he is a horrible wrestler. Who the hell looks at him and says, yeah lets give him the belt and the main event matches?

[lost/wwe fan]

I agree about Jarrett. He never really impressed me much.

Did u see the pay-per-view last night. Scott Steiner came back and Daniels won the ultimate X match. Christian also was able to retain the belt and Sting came back.

Are u getting Wrestlemania. The matches I can't wait to see are Taker/Henry Casket Match. Taker should win. Angle/Rey/Orton triple threat. So many styles in 1 match. I think Angle will win. Also the money in the bank match. I hope RVD wins. I hope on the Smackdown side, its Lashley, Hardy, and Super Crazy.

[Deadman]

I had to work all weekend so I didnt get to watch TNA at all. But with Scott and Sting both there I am definately going to have to clear my schedule next weekend.

I dont normally get PPVs. When I moved into my apartment I had cable hooked up already and havent paid for it since I moved in. I dont want to try and order a PPV and screw up that deal so yeah, no PPVs. I will try to find some place to watch it though. I think every match they are having this year is going to be great. The casket match and the triple threat should be the better of the night I hope.

Have you been watching the Saturday Night WWE show? This weekend its Rey/Angle/Orton vs HHH/Cena. I think that is going to be a pretty interesting match.

Do you watch Hogan Knows Best? Hogan is my favorite wrestler of all time so I watch it every chance I get. I think Hogan is a funny dude. He cracks me up when he talks dirty to his wife and she gets all shy. Brian Knobs is also on the show so its cool to see him.

What did you think of Raw last night? Did you get to see Shawn throw pee on both Shane and Vince? That was great. And the Kane/Big Show/Cena vs HHH/Carlito/Masters match was pretty good too. Also Goldust fought Edge and people were just like, ok. I havent seen Goldust in years and now he is just there and nobody makes one comment? That was strange to me.

[lost/wwe fan]

Goldust actually came back a while back. I think it was during the Royal Rumble or something like that.

I missed the 1st half of Saturday Night's Main Event so i missed the main event vs. main event match. Who won? I did enjoy the Austin segment and the street fight. It was awesome how Micheals suplexed Shane through those tables. Also Taker was there.

[CenaFan]

Yeah goldust came back at the royal rumble now his on velocity I think. I've decided I just don't like John Cena anymore he's champion for a year while the pro's like Kurt Angle have to sit back and get beaten. I hope HHH beats him at wrestlemania.
I've never watched TNA before is it good?.

P.S John Cena won for raw on SNME the match wasn't as good as i'd hoped it would be mainly because it was all Randy Orton, HHH, and Cena

[lost/wwe fan]

TNA is very good. Kurt Angle isn't just sitting back. He's the World Heavyweight Champion. I think the reason he hasn't been champion before now is because of his neck. I hope Cena wins.

[CenaFan]

Wrestlemania's so close!.

Have any of you guys seen the footage for Smackdown vs Raw 2007 ?. It's on the PS3 and Xbox 360, it looks pretty good. The footage is up on ign.com.

[lost/wwe fan]

Thats awesome. What does it show?

[CenaFan]

Basically it shows Kurt Angle and John Cena fighting in the Raw arena. Angle knocks Cena it the crowd where a fan hands Angle a bottle which he then smashes over Cena's head. Angle set's Cena up on a table and climbs up a sort of construction thing and moonsaults of it onto Cena. The Graphics are great you can really see the sweat running down there backs. It's now up on Gamespot.com you should really watch it, it looks fantastic.

[lost/wwe fan]

Thats awesome. I can't wait for that to come out.

30 min to Wrestlemania. Can't wait. Its storming here so the satellite is in and out and its really pissing me off.

[CenaFan]

Wow that was... bad. I mean Mysterio as champ?... come on anyone but him at least he'll lose it soon, I think. I was actually pretty impressed with Cena he carried on despite the fact he was being booed, that's shows a lot of heart. But unfortunately as a whole the show didn't live up to the hype.
I'd give it a 7/10 not really bad but last years was infinetly superior.

[lost/wwe fan]

I'd give it a 8 out of 10. I loved the Rey became the champ. It was awesome but i agree that he'll probably lose it soon. I didn't watch the beginning of the match with Cena but i watch most of it. The crowd was real into it. I wish i was there. Here's a list of my favorite matches of the night.
1. Triple Threat Match
2. Hardcore Match
3. Money in the Bank
4. Cena/HHH
5. Micheal/Mcmahon
6. Women's Title
7. Casket Match
8. Tag Titles
9. JBL/Beniot
10. Boogeyman/Booker T
11. Pillow Fight

[CenaFan]

That sounds like the right order.
Another thing, why is Cena still champ?. I mean he's practically stayed the champ a year. That's why I prefer smackdown! as much as I liked Angle being champion I didn't want him to hold it for a year. You heard the crowd on sunday. The majority of fans just don't like Cena anymore, McMahon should listen to this and give the title to HHH.
Raw last night was classic. Vince and Shane vs HBK and God for backlash was so funny. I'm glad Cena finally lost a fight. He's like UnderTaker he never ever loses matches fairly. Apart from all that this years looking up.

[Deadman]

We finally have some tag champs worthy of the titles, The Spirit Squad. WTF? Who else thinks the tag belt champs have gotten lamer over the years? I also think Cena needs to lose the belt. I would love to see HHH or Shawn have the belt. I missed the end of the show so who won the Shawn/God vs Vince/Shane match? Did Chavo win also?

[CenaFan]

Yeah the Tag champs thing sucked so bad.
Anyway the HBK and God vs Shane and Vince match was scheduled for Backlash.
Chavo lost the match and claimed on WWE.com unlimited that he "quit".
I'm praying that Triple H gets his rematch at Backlash. Has anyone heard HHH's new theme Bow down to the king?. Does anyone know if that's his new theme for good?.

P.S The problem with the whole Tag Champions deteriation thing is that essentially the belts mean nothing. You can give the belts to the best in the buisness won't stop the from being worthless. In the WWE only two belts really count and that's the WWE and World Heavyweight Championships.

[lost/wwe fan]

I agree that the tag team division sucks in the WWE. They have much more importance on TNA. I haven't watched all of Raw so i can't comment too much on it. I watched the match at Wrestlemania that the crowd was mostly for HHH but there were still a lot of Cena fans. Im one of them. I can't wait for Backlash. I live in Kentucky so im getting tickets and im going. I tell you guys all about it.

[Deadman]

I used to respect the tag teams back in the day. There used to be a lot of really good teams competing for those titles. I want to see some teams like the Hardy Boyz again.

[Gabs]

The days of Hardyz/E&C/Dudleyz were, in my opinion, the best days the tag division has ever seen. Skills, good gimmicks, good stories, which have all been lacking since then.

You'll have to forgive me as I've not seen much WWE in over a year, but... is HHH popular now? :confused: I can't stand him. He's not a talented wrestler, and he was never willing to let anyone else get the push over him. Has that changed?

[Deadman]

You'll have to forgive me as I've not seen much WWE in over a year, but... is HHH popular now? :confused: I can't stand him. He's not a talented wrestler, and he was never willing to let anyone else get the push over him. Has that changed?

HHH is always in the spotlight. He is in the runnings to get the Heavyweight title. I can't help but like HHH though. He might not be talented like some guys but he has style to his wrestling. He still says he is the best and he lets people know it for sure. He needs to shave that goofy fu-man-choo thing he has going on though.

[Gabs]

I'll agree he was a fairly decent entertainer, and I liked him n the DX days and when he came back from the leg injury. Had to respect him for that one, if nothing else.

He used to have that pretty spiffy goatee thing, and then he started shaving it and doing weird mustaches and such. :confused: That's just... retarded. :p

[CenaFan]

HHH has whatever mustache/facial hair that the lead guy of motorhead has at the time it's sort of a wierd friendship thing they got going on.

ETA: Triple H isn't really popular it's just John Cena's really UNpopular and everyone wanted Cena to lose the title. Back at wrestlemania 21 everyone in the crowd was rooting for Batista to win. Did anyone catch Batista at WM22?, he came back saying he's going to take back what's his.

[Gabs]

Really? I never knew that. It's kinda cool... but it still looks absolutely ridiculous :p

[Deadman]

Thats hilarious. I dont know about his new music either. Its ok but I like his other one better.

Anyone heard when Lesnar is coming back? Last I heard he was wrestling in Japan until he was able to come back to the WWE after he quit.

[lost/wwe fan]

I heard that TNA was trying to get Lesnar and that he may not come back to the WWE. I hope he does, he used to be my favorite even when he sided with Vince. He was so powerful. I want to see him and Lashley have a match.

[CenaFan]

Batista is pretty much the WWE's new lesnar fast, powerful etc. Lesnar and the WWE pretty much hate each other right now, hence the fact his not featured in any of the SvR games.
Does anyone know when the next elimination chamber is?. I saw the one at NYR and it was great. Every show on earth could use a good elimination chamber:boxer: .

ETA: Orton's been suspended from the WWE sixty days for unprofesional conduct.

[SLEfun]

I love wrestling i have been a fan since i was ib 5th grade and know I am in 11th grade. I know i haven't been a fan for long but i just love it. I like John Cena, Batista, Randy Orton, Carlito, Undertaker, The Rock, Rey, Eddie i miss him so much when he died i so cryed. and i like a whole lot more. i went to 2 Raws and 3 Smackdowns and I am so happy because this week i am going to Smackdown in Green Bay and I will see the champoin Rey i can't wait Woo Hoo. but I love wrestling.:D

[lost/wwe fan]

I also read that Orton got suspended. He thinks he's above the rules and he treats everyone disrespectfully. Everyone hates him backstage. Taker, HHH, Flair, and Angle are just a few.

[CenaFan]

He does have a cocky attitude in and outside the WWE, it's a shame because it seems like he could do something for the company. If he carries on like this he'll be fired.

[lost/wwe fan]

Do you think that TNA will pick him up if he got fired? I think they have enough talent for a 1 hour show.

[CenaFan]

Given the reports on his behaviour I doubt TNA is that desparate.

[lost/wwe fan]

I agree. They don't need someone to come in a bring down their backstage morale.

[CenaFan]

Maybe Goldberg?. I know he doesn't wrestle anymore but he's younger than Sting (I think?). Plus the Jackhammer + The spear =:). And he seems like a pretty nice guy.

[lost/wwe fan]

I read that they had some talks but they haven't had any recently. I was hoping Goldberg was Jarret secret enforcer instead of Steiner.

[CenaFan]

I've heard rumors that Goldberg is going to be the tag team partner of Sting on some TNA program.

[lost/wwe fan]

That would be awesome. 2 of my favorite wrestlers teaming up. Hopely it will happen.

[CenaFan]

I wonder if the Rock will ever come back to the WWE?. We haven't seen him since 2004 and it was said that he "looked forward to making more apperances".

ETA: Out of interest, what's is everyone's favorite Pay Per View?. Mine is Survivour Series 2001 WWE vs The Alliance. Lots of atmosphere and the whole thing was very tense.

[lost/wwe fan]

I don't know. Ive only watched since Wrestlemania 19. One of my favorites was Wreslemania 20. I really liked the Survivor Series between Wrestlemania 19 and 20. I liked the Kane and Shane match, Buried Alive with Kane betraying Taker, and i think it was when Team Austin vs Team Bishoff.

[CenaFan]

Cool, you really need to watch Survivor Series 2001 even though it's obvious who wins it's a great match with twists and turns throughout. I've always liked the video packages the WWE put together before the main event. I liked the one for Survivor Series 2001 with "control" by puddle of mudd and New Year's Revolution 2006 with "Stricken" by Disturbed. Kane and 'Taker has got to be one of the best fueds in the WWE right behind The Rock and Steve Austin.
Rey mysterio's really grown on me all of a sudden. He's a very good wrestler and seems like a nice, respectful man.

[lost/wwe fan]

I agree about Rey. Ive always liked him and have so much respect for him. How are you enjoying this MNM and Paul London/Brian Kendrick fued? I think they are having some amazing matches. The first tag match was the best. No one know who was going to win and it was back and forth. The best fued ive actually witnessed is probably Orton/Taker. Others ive enjoyed are Shane/Kane, Hardy/Edge(so much emotion), and Eddie/Rey(some of the best matches ive seen).

[CenaFan]

I love the matches in the MNM London/Kendrick fued but the storyline needs some work. I always thought Orton and Undertaker fued was dragged on too long. But I always loved the Rey/Eddie matches, the passion was outstanding. I've always liked the Angle/HBK fued, their wrestlemania 21 match really stole the show. Though one of my favorite fueds has to be Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Vince Mcmahon one, funny and dramatic from start to finish.

[lost/wwe fan]

I wished i had watched wrestling during that fued. I know i would have loved it. How are you liking Mcmahon's current fued with Shawn Micheals. I thought it started getting silly with the God thing. That church segment though was really funny. Especially when Shane stepped away from Vince when Vince said strike me if im lying or something like that.

[CenaFan]

Completley agree with you while it's funny in places there just not the same dynamic like the one between Austin and Mcmahon or The Rock and Mcmahon. One of my favourite moments in the WWE is when The Rock won the title at the king of the ring event. Then Mr Mcmahon comes down and congratulates him (he tried to make The Rock lose at KOTR) And says he's sorry about his wife and not giving her the attention she deserves and starts ranting about how he's a "Genetic Jackhammer" he then says to The Rock:

Mr Mcmahon: I want to shake your hand, if your the man I think you are you'll take it.

The Rock hesitates and shakes his hand.

Mr Mcmahon: Well I better go.

The Rock: Hang on one second Vince. You see to The Rock you still own this company, to the Rock you are still a millionare, and to The Rock you are still an A$$hole!

The Rock gives Vince the Rock Bottom.

Those were the good old days :nod:

[lost/wwe fan]

Did you see Lockdown? I didn't. I wish it could have though. Raven, Low Ki, and Chrisy Hemme were there. I read it on a website. Im glad Christy is there. She was my favorite diva in WWE.

[CenaFan]

Did anyone watch RAW last night!. It made me feel sick. For those who didn't see it Kane literally stuck his finger into Big Show's eye backstage and when he left Big show's face was a bloody mess:o

[Cinderella85]

Omg, wrestling! I was mad about it when I was like 13-14. Only WCW though, when that finished I stopped watching.
I still have old tapes though that I like to watch sometimes.
My fav wrestlers were Sting, Rey Mysterio Jr, Hogan (gotta love that guy) Kevin Nash, gawd, many many. I loved the Wolfpac, I still have my Wolfpac T-shirt :D
I don't really keep up to date with any of the goings on anymore, though I did hear about Eddie :(

[Deadman]

Did anyone watch RAW last night!. It made me feel sick. For those who didn't see it Kane literally stuck his finger into Big Show's eye backstage and when he left Big show's face was a bloody mess:o

I really miss the days when Kane was a monster who nobody could touch. Now he is just another guy. I want him to get crazy! Not sure what is up with the May 19th thing though. Is that the day of the "accident"?

[CenaFan]

Not sure but it's a great idea (If it's about the movie i'm gonna be mad). Kane does seem to be reverting back to "old Kane" which gives me high hopes of a WWE championship in his future, i've always loved Kane and his character is far too unused by the WWE. That's the kind of thing that loses viewers.
Maybe May 19th is the day Kane's drafted to Smackdown!.

[lost/wwe fan]

I think May 19 was the day of the accident too.

[CenaFan]

Kurt's been injured!. I'm so annoyed, first Batista then Kurt that Mark Henry needs to be suspended.

[Terri]

OMG, a wrestling thread! I've been watching wrestling religiously since 2000 and I love it (I am the only person I know, besides my brother and his friends, that watches it.)

I saw RAW and Big Show's blood from his eye, and it made me feel quesy too. I prefer to watch RAW rather than Smackdown, it's easier for me too watch. As long as HBK is on RAW, I will watch. I'm a John Cena fan, although it is time for a new champ, just to mix things up a bit. I really hope it is not Edge though - ugh I can't stand him. And HHH going for the title is getting tiresome. We need new blood.

I miss watching The Undertaker - but if Kane's off to Smackdown then I will start watching it more regularly (the two of them on the same show! Gah.) There's a lot of wrestlers on Smackdown that I have no real opinion of and not many of my favs are there. I like Randy Orton (I don't really keep up to date on all the backstage goings on, so I wasn't aware of his 'attitude').

The Rock should come back - he was funny, as well as a good wrestler. As too, was Chris Jericho (I really miss him). Stone Cold's semi-regular returns are always a joy too watch, I could do without Hogan coming back every 10 minutes (I'm not really a fan anymore).

Someone mentioned books a few pages back. I've read HBK's Heartbreak and Triumphs, and I've read Kane's book thingy. My brother is into the games, but I watch him play them sometimes.

WWE is the only show I watch, I used to watch wrestling when I was little. I think it was WCW (but it was years ago and I really don't remember all that much). Ooooo I love Sting though, him I remember.

I was all set to watch Backlash tonight, but then found out that I have to be at work at some ungodly hour in the morning, so I'm gonna have to tape it. Though that means somehow watching it between the hours of 6pm and 2am (when RAW is broadcast live), with a mother that hates it and other shows to watch!

Is Kane's move to Smackdown official?

Terri x

[CenaFan]

No Kane's brand switch is just speculation. I'm rooting for John Cena at backlash he may not be a great wrestler but he's sure as hell getting better.

[Terri]

No Kane's brand switch is just speculation

Thanks. Although it would be cool to see either a feud between Kane and Undertaker again, or them teaming up. Them together never grows old, just like HHH and HBK fighting or getting along.

I don't want Cena to lose, because I'm a massive fan. But I think it's time. Although there are better candidates for the next champ. Also I can't see how the writers are gonna let him keep the belt with the reactions he's been getting and everything lately. I agree, he is getting better.

[lost/wwe fan]

I heard that Cena might become a heel pretty soon. Welcome to the thread Terri. Do you watch TNA? It comes on Thursdays at 11:00 and the replays come on Saturdays at 11:00. Sting is there and a lot of new talent. Who do you guys want to win the RVD/Benjamin match? I love both guys so it hard to cheer for one.

[CenaFan]

I'm so glad RVD won!, Shelton always been a good athlete but RVD got charisma as well as skill. I can't wait for him to cash in on his "money in the bank" contract. Cena's day's as Champ may be numbered.

[Deadman]

Alright I am a little confused here. I only get to watch Raw because I dont get the station Smackdown is on which sucks. Who in the world is this gigantic guy that Undertaker has been having a fued with? I caught a clip of something last week on Raw and it showed this enormous dude kickin the crap out of the Undertaker. Anyone know who this is? I think Mark Henry brought him in.

I also thought TNA was moved to Thursday nights. I missed it Thursday but it was on Saturday night. I am guessing is was a rerun of Thursday but I dunno. So Sting is finding a partner for the next PPV? Buff and Luger were both probable partners but Jarret said no. So do two more guys get a shot next week and so on until Jarret picks one? I missed alot of TNA in the last few weeks so I am lost as to what is going on. And where the Hell is Jeff Hardy? I watch TNA 2-3 times a month normally and have never seen him wrestle. Whats the deal?

Thanks.

[Terri]

Welcome to the thread Terri. Do you watch TNA?

Thanks for the welcome Lost/wwe fan. I don't watch TNA, no. My brother does sometimes, so he lets me know what's going on from time to time.

I'm glad RVD won at Backlash also, although Shelton is an amazing athlete, so either one winning wouldn't have upset me too much.

Who in the world is this gigantic guy that Undertaker has been having a fued with?

I gotta say I was shocked at the appearance of someone bigger than Undertaker. I mean he just laid him out. Apparently this big dude (The Great Khali) was in the film the Longest Yard. Other than that I am completely clueless, so am not much help, sorry Deadman. But he's managed by Daivari, who I really can't stand all that much.

Cena turning Heel? I thought he said that he didn't want to do that? Mmmm...either way I'll still love him. Totally started watching Backlash convinced that he'd lose the title. Scream worthy surprise when he didn't.

Vince has totally lost it.

Should I be putting spoiler tags on any of the results? Are people waiting to watch a re-run on PPV or is my post good like this?

[lost/wwe fan]

I think it will be ok for you to post winners without spoiler tags. I think everyone is watching Raw right now so it'll be ok. The Spirit Squad is really getting on my nervers. Did you guys see Trish's arm bent? The was awful looking. She's going to be out of action for 6 weeks.

[CenaFan]

Alright I am a little confused here. I only get to watch Raw because I dont get the station Smackdown is on which sucks. Who in the world is this gigantic guy that Undertaker has been having a fued with? I caught a clip of something last week on Raw and it showed this enormous dude kickin the crap out of the Undertaker. Anyone know who this is? I think Mark Henry brought him in.




He's called the Great Khali, Davari brought him in.
RAW was great last night!, one of the best i've ever seen. Shawn Micheals has really become likeable again in my eyes as have RVD and Kane. It looks like the WWE is listening to it's fans.

[Terri]

RAW was so funny last night. I wasn't expecting it to be, what with the Spirit Squad in charge and all.

The 'stare' between HBK and HHH was amazing, I can never get enough of their shared screen time - fueding or friendly.

I heard somewhere that DX were meant to be reforming, only with different people (apart from HBK and HHH). Did I hear that here, does anyone know anything about it?

[lost/wwe fan]

I hope that happens Terri. I missed it the 1st time and would really like to see it. I doubt it will be as good as the original.

[CenaFan]

I've always saw DX as over rated. HHH and HBK are better off on their own IMO. This is one of the few episodes of Raw in which i'm looking forward to the next episode. There are so many questions:

Will DX reform?

Who's the new GM?

What the hell is up with Kane?

Has anyone else heard the rumor about Rey?. It's been said he needs knee surgery so he's going to drop the title to JBL :(

[lost/wwe fan]

I also heard that about Rey and i hope its not true. JBL doesn't need two titles.

[Deadman]

JBL doesnt need a title.

[CenaFan]

Hey come on! JBL is great, i'm listening to his fantastic radio show right now. JBL is a great wrestler and a funny guy.

[lost/wwe fan]

I think that JBL needs to go on a diet. He's really started to look fat.

[Deadman]

Yeah he does that. He gets kinda beefed up and then lets himself go a little bit.

Sorry CenaFan I just miss the take no sh!t Bradshaw days.

[CenaFan]

No problem I see what you mean. Where the hell is the Undertaker?.

[lost/wwe fan]

Taker better come back today and kick Khali ass.

[Double M]

What's up wrestling fans! I was just poking around the forum and saw some fellow fans, and wanted to say hi. Looking forward to the Edge/Foley match tonight, and cant wait for RVD to officially challenge Cena for One Night Stand. Any other RVD fans out here? Ive personally been following him since the first ECW PPV and have been a huge fan ever since. Obviously I'm into Triple H too. Your favorites?

Oh, and did anyone here make it to wrestlemania? I paid $200 for upper deck but it was completely worth it.

[lost/wwe fan]

The Hardcore match tonight is going to be awesome. I thought it will be better than Mania but it going to be awesome. Hopely we'll see more fire.

[Double M]

And with the Lost-like twist, Foley turns heel!!

[lost/wwe fan]

It made me mad what they did to Dreamer. I hope Dreamer comes back next week and kicks their ass. Rey and Khali is such a BS match. Thats worse than the time Rey had a fued with Show.

[CenaFan]

I'm so glad HHH is getting his shot on monday. I know he won't win, but I can dream.

[lost/wwe fan]

Anyone else liking Kane's May 19 storyline. I think its pretty good but Kane needs to react to the crowd chanting May 19. I think when the crowd chants, he needs to start getting pissed off. I guess Kane's getting his mask back. I hope so. He was more of a monster with that mask.

[lost/wwe fan]

It was easy to see that HHH was aiming for Shane than Shawn. He warned Shawn to watch this closely so Shawn would move. DX is coming back!!

[Terri]

It was easy to see that HHH was aiming for Shane than Shawn. He warned Shawn to watch this closely so Shawn would move. DX is coming back!!

Yay I thought this too. I was hoping that he'd return to the ring and sledgehammer Vince too, but I guess that's have been too much too soon. I can't wait for DX to happen though. (I kind of have this somewhat unhealthy obssession with HBK and HHH - fighting or working together I love them.)

Kane going to Smackdown is depressing, I hardly ever get to watch it and now I won't get to see him much.

[lost/wwe fan]

Hopely if Kane appears tonight at Smackdown, it will be a one time deal. I like him better on Raw. But Taker is on Smackdown. And those two have awesome fueds.

[Deadman]

Who else thinks DX will be making a comeback? It will be freakin awsome if they decide to go this way. With all the other members gone, who would you choose to join?

[CenaFan]

The offical poster for vengence is:


SPOILER FOR ONE NIGHT STAND!



John Cena looking at Edge, with a large DX logo graffitied over it.



END SPOILERS

[Deadman]

Are you serious or just wishful thinking?

[Double M]

The offical poster for vengence is:


SPOILER FOR ONE NIGHT STAND!



John Cena looking at Edge, with a large DX logo graffitied over it.



END SPOILERS

Sorry Cenafan, not only is that spoiler obviously incorrect, but I will extremely surprised if Cena walks out of the Hammerstien ballroom with that stupid belt of his.

Spoiler:




After a 5-star frog splash and a viscious Van-Daminator, RVD throws away the spinning monstrosity called the WWE title belt and unviels the new ECW world heavy weight title.

End Spoiler

[Terri]

The offical poster for vengence is:


SPOILER FOR ONE NIGHT STAND!



John Cena looking at Edge, with a large DX logo graffitied over it.



END SPOILERS

I've seen the poster, it all looks very cool. I can't wait for D-X to come back. If anyone wants to see the poster go here (http://www.ringsidemayhem.com/news.php?id=post/specials/headlines/149539783.html)

Sorry Cenafan, not only is that spoiler obviously incorrect, but I will extremely surprised if Cena walks out of the Hammerstien ballroom with that stupid belt of his.

Cena could lose at One Night Stand, and then there'd be no champion for Edge to face, so maybe they just make a match between them anyway.

Saying that, would they really let the Championship Belt be taken away from RAW? I mean Rey has a match for his title too, what will WWE do if any of them are lost? Surely it'd take a while for a new belt to be introduced?

And masked Kane? Am loving it.

[Double M]

The offical poster for vengence is:


SPOILER FOR ONE NIGHT STAND!



John Cena looking at Edge, with a large DX logo graffitied over it.



END SPOILERS


Sorry Cenafan, I read that as a ONS spoiler not a Vengence spolier, my bad.

I like how that poster has the DX logo over the wrestler's face, so you cant see who it is. But doesn't Edge have the title shot?

You know, now that they added that Mysterio/Sabu match, Im sceptical as to which one of the belts will actually go over to ECW. It would really make more sense to give them the World Title since it does not have all the history behind as the WWE title does. This is making me nervous for my guy RVD. In any case, this PPV is shaping up to be one of the better ones of the year. ECW ECW ECW!!

[lost/wwe fan]

I think that Sabu will win at ONS. I love Rey and everything but ECW needs a belt and what better way to kick off the rebirth of ECW than by taking the World Heavyweight Championship from WWE.

[Deadman]

DX returns! This is a great day.

What do you all think of Cena losing his belt? Do you think they will overturn the decision? I hope he loses it but I dont want the title to go to ECW. Why dont they just make their own belt anyway?

Does anyone go to WWE.com? Just curious why Tori's dog Chloe and Nacho Libre are posted as Raw and Smackdown superstars. Did I miss something?

[lost/wwe fan]

That sucked at ONS. Cena got robbed because Edge speared him and Heyman isn't even a ref. That was bs and everyone knows it. Even fans at the show. They would have cheered 10x louder and went 10x wilder if it was fair.

Oh yeah. DX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Double M]

I myself am the biggest RVD fan, and I was a bit disapointed in the way he won that match. But then again, when do any title changes happen without some sort of screwjob finish. Oh well, the ending leaves openings for future storylines.

[CenaFan]

Did anyone else see the Vengance press conferance?.

It was hilarious, D-X were up to their old tricks, and HHH mooned everyone!.

It was great!.

[Deadman]

Yeah I watched that. Very entertaining. I loved the part where HHH was talking about the women flashing themselves. "You guys in front might want to move when those bad boys come tumbling out". Hilarious.

[CenaFan]

NEW CHAMPION!!.

I can't belive it on Raw of all places, where pretty much nothing ever happens, there's a major title change.

Edge is such a great wrestler. I'm really pleased.

[Deadman]

Did Edge win the belt last week? I missed it! I gotta remember to watch it tonight. Awsome that Raw got the belt back, but I am not a big Edge fan. I liked him a lot more when he wasnt the rated r superstar. Can HHH get his belt back please?

[Gabs]

:w00t: Jeff Hardy returns to RAW on Monday night!

[CenaFan]

I always liked the Hardy Boyz. (That;s how they spelt it right?)

Summerslam this Sunday!.

[Terri]

Cannot wait for Jeff Hardy's return! Am so incredibly excited!

For any that watched - how was SummerSlam? I only read the results, it sounded good though. DX and the McMahons - loved the write up, looking forward to any clips shown on RAW tonight.

[Deadman]

I have missed Jeff since he left. I know he went to TNA but I have never seen him wrestle there. I dont watch it really though. But yeah, I am excited about his return. Maybe the tag division will become worth watching again.

[Gabs]

Ah, Jeff just made his return. :D I thought he'd be the one to come out there. Can't wait to see a match, hopefully he'll have one tonight.

[Pikeyjake]

Hey,Lost fans do also like wrestling :D

My brother is soooo lucky, He gets to go to unforgiven and see the hell in a cell and a tables ladders and chairs match :shock:

If anyone in this thread whatchs tna, i was at the impacts were Samoa joe beat Chris daniels for the x title, Spike returned and the one after that(i think they were befor the ppv "Lockdown")

[JACKATE]

I'm a big fan of this "sport"
I watch Raw, Smack down and ECW every week..
I watch TNA sometimes..

I'm a big fan of John Cena.. I was a big fan of Stone Cold and The Rock.. now I do like thee DX..

I would like to see Cena with thee DX against the mecmahones (I do not know how to spell it) !!

[Pikeyjake]

Angle signs with tna :shock:

[Terri]

Angle signs with tna :shock:

So not the place I would have expected him to sign with. Somehow Angle personifies mainstream wrestling for me.

A question - just to get people out of the woodwork - do you have an all time favourite match? Storyline? Wrestler?

[CenaFan]

Angle is Scum.

Not because he signed with TNA it's just the way he did it, he just went behind their back.

[Deadman]

A question - just to get people out of the woodwork - do you have an all time favourite match? Storyline? Wrestler?

Match - Hardy Boyz vs. Dudley Boyz vs. Edge & Christian ladder match. Angle vs Shane O Mac match when they were throwing each other into the window backstage and it didnt break like it was supposed to, so Shane had to throw him into it like 10 times before it broke. Good stuff. Hogan vs. Ultimate Warrior at Madison Square Gardens. Roddy Piper & Mr Wonderful vs. Hogan & Mr. T. at Wrestlmania 1.

Storyline - When Angle was a face for awhile. He was too funny then to not like. Anything involving DX is great. The Macho Man/Hogan fued over Elizabeth.

Wrestler - Hogan will always be the best ever. Also Roddy Piper, Ultimate Warrior, Bret Hart, Scott Hall, Sting, Jeff Hardy, MASKED Kane, Mick Foley..... this list can go a lot longer for me because there have been too many great wrestlers over the years. I tried to keep it fairly short though.

[Pikeyjake]

Angle is Scum.

Not because he signed with TNA it's just the way he did it, he just went behind their back.

Nope, Your wrong,

Vince Mcmahon wanted kurt to take a break from wrestling, Kurt said no, So vince fired him.

Kurt wanted to carry on wrestlnig so he signed with tna, Simple as that, Plus he has a lighter schedule as he will be only wrestling 3-6 matchs a month.

Wrestling is his life, he just wanted to carry on living it .

[Gabs]

So not the place I would have expected him to sign with. Somehow Angle personifies mainstream wrestling for me.
Agreed.

A question - just to get people out of the woodwork - do you have an all time favourite match? Storyline? Wrestler?

Matches: Jeff Hardy vs Undertaker, ladder match for WWE championship. Original TLC match. Any of Hardy vs RVD, those two put on an amazing show together.

Wrestler: Jeff Hardy

Don't really have any favorite storylines...

[Pikeyjake]

^Damn,I remember that ladder match, It kicked ass, I wanted jeff to win so much:p

[Gabs]

:w00t: Jeff won the IC title tonight! :D

[Pikeyjake]

Hmm,Whats this 3 hour event for next week then?I hope the rock turns up :)

[CenaFan]

No Mercy's main event is now a fatal four way. I think the WWE saw that the main event wasn't drawing enough attention. I hope Batista wins it.

BTW I think Angle's become a walking timebomb injury wise, as much as I dislike him now; I don't want to see someone of his ability wind up in a wheelchair.

[Gabs]

Loved the DX/Edge&Orton promo on Raw last night. That was hilarious. I'm not a HHH fan, but I do like him in this character.

[Sleezy]

Anyone catch raw last night? Why was Kevin Federline on the program? It was the funniest thing...the crowd booed him the whole time and John Cena gave him the "f.u" and slammed him on his back.

Boooo Kevin Federline....I hope I never see you on tv again .

[Gabs]

Yeah, that 'KFed' spot was odd, but whatever. I only caught the beginning, where Nitro introduced him, and the end where Cena hit him with the FU.

Speaking of Cena, anyone seen/plan to see his movie?

[CenaFan]

I want more of Mr Kennedy damn it!.

[Pikeyjake]

Tonight,We are bound for glory :D(well,Im seeing it next sunday so meh)

[chelseafan]

My favuorite match is the 6 man hell in a cell a few years ago.Angle defending against Austin ,Rock, HHH,'Takerand Rikishi.Remember Taker through rikishi off topof cell.Classic!:help: :banghead:

[Gabs]

Tonight's ladder match, Hardy def. Nitro for IC title, was a thing of beauty. I've never been terribly impressed by Nitro, but damn was he good tonight. SO glad Jeff won, though. :w00t:

[chelseafan]

Did anyone see survivor series.The animal finally got his title back.Lashley is going to dominate ECW.FACT.

[CenaFan]

Thank god the animal got HIS title back.

[JACKATE]

John Cena gave the big show a FU! What a champ?!

[chelseafan]

finally lashley has a world championship .he won the E.C.W. title by pinning show in extreme elimination chamber

[JACKATE]

finally lashley has a world championship .he won the E.C.W. title by pinning show in extreme elimination chamber

Yeah! Boby Lashely deserve to be ECW World Champion.

ps. How is Mourinho with you guys? Are you prepare to face Arsenal? I hope and I predict the result to be 2 - 1 for Chelsea:)

[chelseafan]

damn right he does .
Yeah thanks pity it wasn't.Should have won :mad: Still the title race isn't over just yet ,a long way 2 go .anyone know what happened on raw missed it

[Deadman]

Bam Bam Bigelow passes away

Written: January 20, 2007

WWE.com has learned that former WWE Superstar Scott "Bam Bam" Bigelow has passed away in Florida.

Kevin Doll, the Public Information Director for the Pasco County Sheriff's Office confirmed that Bigelow was found dead early this morning in his home in Hudson, Fla.

"We can confirm that Scott Bigelow was found in his home this morning. At this time the cause of death is unknown," Doll told WWE.com.

Doll also confirmed that the Pasco-Pinellas Counties medical examiner has taken the body and an autopsy will be performed.

Bigelow, 45, worked for WWE, ECW and WCW extensively throughout his 20-year sports-entertainment career. A former ECW Champion, ECW Television Champion and WCW Tag Team Champion, he is perhaps best known for his rivalry with Lawrence Taylor that culminated in the main event of WrestleMania XI in 1995.

Stay tuned to WWE.com as more on Bigelow's passing becomes available.

[chelseafan]

Undertaker won the royal rumble last night the first person to do so as number 30

[Morgan Celestine]

And we still don't know who he's going to face at Wrestlemania. We all know who's going to win there anyway :rolleyes: He's never lost a match at Wreslemania :giggle:

[chelseafan]

Dunno I reckon he will stay on smackdown it'll be batista and as for him winning all records can be broken but i hope he does win.

[Deadman]

Yep its Batista! I hope the Undertaker will win. I would love to see him get the title again.

[amybrenneman]

YAY! wrestling! i love it :w00t:

[Deadman]

I had to laugh at Flair last night. Poor guy was so confused. "Im walkin around here, im walkin around here, im walking around..." lol

[rappy]

Anyone want to think who is gonna win Backlash...I think Cena will win *yawn*...

[chelseafan]

He better not!!How long has he been champ noiw?too long.I want HBK to win it.

[rappy]

He better not!!How long has he been champ noiw?too long.I want HBK to win it.

Same here...he deserves it...I remember last time Cena had a massive run the fans just chanted "Same ol S***" everyweek so in the week Vince made him lose it...

[chelseafan]

Yea and then he got it back:shifty:
Nicxe to see taker champ on s/down.ECW eems crap to me apart from lashley and CM punk,it's like they arent bothered with it.

[Gabs]

For Backlash, I'm pretty much only interested in the tag title match between the Hardys and Cade/Murdoch.

RVD may be leaving WWE when his contract is up... can't say I blame him. It's obvious ECW is the 3rd class brand. :rolleyes: Hell, the ECW champ is defending his belt on RAW half the time. :no:

[chelseafan]

If the hardys lose to them 2 hillbillies it will be a travesty.Jeff stole the show at mania in the lader match:w00t:

[rappy]

I was so stoked to see ECW back and a year on its crap and been ruined...tho CM Punk is probably only shining light from it...

[chelseafan]

Yep I mean look at the wrestlers,they are not god enough,be a well getting rid of it and let CM punk go to smackdown

[rappy]

Yep I mean look at the wrestlers,they are not god enough,be a well getting rid of it and let CM punk go to smackdown

Ready for some right crap....

Unless plans change real soon, John Cena is expected to retain the WWE Championship at Backlash. Vince sees Cena as a long-term champion and feels the boos he's been getting recently will pass real soon, much like they did in 2006. Edge and Randy Orton will be feuding with each other after Backlash and Cena will either keep feuding with Shawn Michaels, or start a feud with Umaga or The Great Khali.

Undertaker is expected to go over at Backlash and Batista will feud with the returning Mark Henry. Vince wants Undertaker to have a lengthy reign as World Champion, but Undertaker will have to work a full-time schedule, something he's apparently willing to do.

If it isn't already obvious, Lashley is expected to retain the ECW Championship in the Handicap Match and then feud with Snitsky over the title.

Read that from Wrestling Observer...its just....:mad:

[chelseafan]

Er snitsky WTF is up with that.Thats a pretty lame idea of vinces regardind "the Chump" IMO:mad:
LOL did you see Jose Mourinho on Raw....he got booed by most people:giggle:

[Gabs]

UGH. I hope neither Umaga nor Khali get title shots. Neither of them have any actual... what's the word... oh, right. Talent. They're around because they're massive, and Vince likes big guys. :rolleyes:

[chelseafan]

Well Umaga isnt too bad but khali is probably the WWE's worst ever.He's certaintly up there with the worst:p
Yep vince likes big guys who cant wrestle eg.Chris masters,Snitsky,Khali.At least pople like kane can pull off a proper match unlike those just mentioned.Speaking of Kane i'd like to see him as champion...probably wont happen

[Gabs]

I don't think Masters is too bad. Agreed on the other guys though.

[rappy]

Well Umaga isnt too bad but khali is probably the WWE's worst ever.He's certaintly up there with the worst:p
Yep vince likes big guys who cant wrestle eg.Chris masters,Snitsky,Khali.At least pople like kane can pull off a proper match unlike those just mentioned.Speaking of Kane i'd like to see him as champion...probably wont happen

You know the only reason Umaga is there is because Vince wants his own Samoa Joe...its so obvious he is a blatant ripoff from the TNA Star...but as for Khali don't know if you have ever heard but he killed someone or nearly did I can't remember when he was a nobody...just shows you what kind of talent Vince loves!!!

[chelseafan]

Really:shock: khali looks a complete weirdo.:p
Pesonally i prefer to watch peolpe like Carlito or Shelton benjamin over those big brawlers.wonder when Mr Kennedy..Kennedy:p will use money in the bank

[rappy]

Really:shock: khali looks a complete weirdo.:p
Pesonally i prefer to watch peolpe like Carlito or Shelton benjamin over those big brawlers.wonder when Mr Kennedy..Kennedy:p will use money in the bank

Yeah I remember that awesome match about 2 years back between HBK and Shelton that was sooooooo good.

[chelseafan]

Yep and then now we have Kane vs Khali at wrestlemania:eh:I think this years wrestlemania seemed to miss something,I thought it was good and all but i dunno,some of the matches were pretty crap,maybe it was cause Cena won ...again

[rappy]

Yep and then now we have Kane vs Khali at wrestlemania:eh:I think this years wrestlemania seemed to miss something,I thought it was good and all but i dunno,some of the matches were pretty crap,maybe it was cause Cena won ...again

I remember when Cena just kept winning the crowd chanted "same ol S***" and I agree with them...and also I marked out so much when Cena lost at one night stand....I just cheered soooooooo loud!!! :w00t:

[chelseafan]

Yea but it didnt take him too long to get it back :mad:
Hopefully HHH will come back and pedigree him in the forseeable future

[rappy]

Yea but it didnt take him too long to get it back :mad:
Hopefully HHH will come back and pedigree him in the forseeable future

he returns in July HHH I used to hate him but in the DX reunion I thought it was great!!!

[chelseafan]

Yep, i wonder are DX finished now or will they get back together?

[rappy]

Yep, i wonder are DX finished now or will they get back together?

I would imagine its gonna be over....shame because it was getting good until HHH injured himself...

[chelseafan]

Yep it is a shame.such an unlucky injury to get too.Big mark henry's back soon.I think he might interrupt taker and batistas match at backlash but I'm probably wrong:p

[rappy]

Yep it is a shame.such an unlucky injury to get too.Big mark henry's back soon.I think he might interrupt taker and batistas match at backlash but I'm probably wrong:p

You been reading those scripts again...yeah he is set to feud with craptista I mean Batista...what a boring feud that is gonna be!!!

[chelseafan]

Nah but it's pretty obvious it's going to happen isn't it.Two people who are not exactly....athlethic in nature,Batista is a bodybulider and henry is ...large:pTime to give Chris benoit a world heavyweight title shot soon,he is more deserving tha the likes of batista,cena and that bunch:nod:

[rappy]

Nah but it's pretty obvious it's going to happen isn't it.Two people who are not exactly....athlethic in nature,Batista is a bodybulider and henry is ...large:pTime to give Chris benoit a world heavyweight title shot soon,he is more deserving tha the likes of batista,cena and that bunch:nod:

Yeah I remember that Wrestlemania with the late eddie and it was so awesome at the end...he deserves a run not fighting some power ranger...

[chelseafan]

Yes thats a good way to describe the "MVP",though to be fair it seems he can wrestle a small bit,just a small bit but more than Cena.Kennedy should be champ,he oozes Charisma and is good to watch

[rappy]

Yes thats a good way to describe the "MVP",though to be fair it seems he can wrestle a small bit,just a small bit but more than Cena.Kennedy should be champ,he oozes Charisma and is good to watch

Now if you want to look at moves its Hogan....PUNCH PUNCH..IRISH WHIP...BIG LEG...LEG DROP!!!! :D

[chelseafan]

Lol yea hogan is a legend,he was never a great wrestler though,everyone still seems to love him.I prefer people likeStone Cold to him.....STONE COLD, STONE COLD!!:p

[rappy]

Stone Cold or the Rock 2 awesome people WWE need back full time :)

[chelseafan]

Yep at the moment the roster contains a lot of people without talent,people like Jericho and angle (even if he's with tna) and The rock are missed greatly
ER vince is the new ECW champion...WTF!!!

[rappy]

Oh god did anyone see it last night....well Cena won as predicted Taker won has predicted and whats worse...Vince just destroyed any shred of dignity that ECW ever had by winning the title...

[chelseafan]

Well he has won the WWE champioship too.But yep thats ECW totally in the gutter.

[rappy]

Well he has won the WWE champioship too.But yep thats ECW totally in the gutter.

Yeah and RVD has turned down new deal so thats TNA...

[chelseafan]

Well at east he'd be used properly.I mean they are up and coming.They dont have the storylines or money to match Vince but with the likes of Angle,Styles,Joe and many more they are a new force to be reckoned with.Dont know why he'd stay on ECW anyway as it's crap:nod:

[rappy]

Well at east he'd be used properly.I mean they are up and coming.They dont have the storylines or money to match Vince but with the likes of Angle,Styles,Joe and many more they are a new force to be reckoned with.Dont know why he'd stay on ECW anyway as it's crap:nod:

Yeah I have watched a few shows of TNA and the X Division is amazing because size is no limits...

[chelseafan]

Yea i watched it a bit,ultimate x matches are great.I think they need to just get out there.If they improve it'll only be a good thing.Competition is good,remember WWE was at it's best when it had competitorseg the attitude era

[rappy]

Yea i watched it a bit,ultimate x matches are great.I think they need to just get out there.If they improve it'll only be a good thing.Competition is good,remember WWE was at it's best when it had competitorseg the attitude era

Yeah my favourite wrestler in Samoa Joe...he is just awesome in TNA tho what TNA lacks is the money and knowledge of getting themselves out there really well

[chelseafan]

Yep Samoa Joe is awesome allright.Money is the biggest problem.Vince has very deep pockets

[rappy]

I can't believe they are pushing Khali now for the title...he has about as much wrestling skills as Stephen Gerrard talent :D

[chelseafan]

Yea khali is probably as bad as ever.I'd nearly prefer him to cena at the moment though,and thats saying something:D

[rappy]

Yea khali is probably as bad as ever.I'd nearly prefer him to cena at the moment though,and thats saying something:D

Wash your mouth out!!!...he is a loony...tho Cena did pick him up for the F'U quite the feat...

[chelseafan]

Yep perhaps cena isnt that bad.Cena picked him up.when on this weeks RAW?

[GaryOR-LFC]

I didn't see Backlash but I heard it was good, Mr. McMahon is now the ECW Champion, Didn't really see that coming, But Cena winning....again...I saw that coming, He really needs to loose that Title, I like Cena but he needs to loose the Title and make way for someone else.

[Gabs]

Cena may not be great, but he's leagues better than Khali. :blank: Cena's strength has always been impressive. I'd like to see someone else get a title run, not any of the guys who've been in it for so long (Cena, Edge, Orton, HBK...)

[chelseafan]

Shelton benjamin or Carlito should be th champ.Course that wont happen for years if ever.The fact khali is even in WWE shows how downhill it's gone

[rappy]

Cena may not be great, but he's leagues better than Khali. :blank: Cena's strength has always been impressive. I'd like to see someone else get a title run, not any of the guys who've been in it for so long (Cena, Edge, Orton, HBK...)

Yeah I was thinking that someone who has never won it before...and in the long run I want to see CM Punk on Raw ECW is wasted for a man of that talent...

[chelseafan]

Yep as i said I'd prefer benjamin.It'd be nice to see matt and jeff get world title runs but i doubt it'll happen now

[rappy]

So RVD has a title shot at Vince...this could be interesting with it being close to One Night Stand 3...

[chelseafan]

^really i didnt see ECW...I dont usually get to see it.It might make ECW better with an original champion

[rappy]

^really i didnt see ECW...I dont usually get to see it.It might make ECW better with an original champion

I don't watch it either I used to watch it when it restarted but then stopped...I just read the results and saw that...yeah RVD as champ would be good.

[chelseafan]

Yep he would be good.To be honest i hope ECW will not be remaining that long,they(vince) would be as well to get rid of it after one night stand but they probbly wont:no:

[Gabs]

So Edge has a title again. Very cool. I'll miss seeing him on Raw, but he deserves it. At least one of the three champs is actually talented.

[chelseafan]

Yea...vince or cena cant be called talented,unless someone changes the definiton of the word.Taker's title reign was cut short cos he picked up an injury and Kennedy was injured too so i think thats why he lost money in the bank.Hopefully edge wll be champ for a while... as long as Batista doesn't win it again:blank:

[Gabs]

Have you all heard about the Benoit family?

[AliCat]

Have you all heard about the Benoit family?

That was awful. :(

[Morgan Celestine]

Yeah.

I'm still in absolute shock over it, I just cannot believe this has happened, it refuses to make any sense to me. It still hasn't sunk in yet, I feel really numb. It's so awful :bawl: My prayers are with both his and his wife's families.

[chelseafan]

Yea it's weird.Guess you ever know what goes on in peoples heads:(.I mean his career will be forgotton due to this disturbing act.

[anitab]

So, Vince McMahan came back from the grave to address this. That's good. I imagine he's (well, everyone's) feeling pretty creepy about it now.

[Castaway86]

Did anyone else watch Summerslam? It sucked. Triple H made the whole damn night for me. His return is the only reason I ordered the PPV. The reception from the crowd was awesome. I'm so glad he's back. He's the only dude worth watching these days, IMO.

Btw, I am so pissed Orton lost to Cena. Argggh! I was rooting for him so badly. I like Cena too, but it's damn time for that belt to claim a new owner.

Loved Austin showing up and stunning MVP too! :giggle:

[Jello1996]

I watched it. I too was hoping for an Orton win, but I knew Cena would retain. They made Orton too dominant in the weeks prior...if he had come off with a win, it would have made Cena look really weak.

I was most upset though about Punk not winning the belt, luckily he won it finally on ECW, but only cause Morrison was suspended for failing his wellness test.

....as bad a Summer Slam was, last night was ultimately worse with Hornswoggle being named Vince's son?!? :banghead:

[Gabs]

I just hope they wrap that stupid angle soon. I. don't. care. Vince needs to stop placing himself center stage on every damn angle.

Also? The Khali-Jeff squash? What the hell? That pissed me off to no end.

[Castaway86]

Vince needs to go away for a bit. When he's there all the time and heavily involved, the show sucks more than usual. Leave the TV appearances to the younger McMahons. I wouldn't mind seeing Steph and Shane every week.

And Hornswoggle? Fantastically lame. I thought it would be Kennedy. It should be Kennedy.

[Gabs]

I don't mind him in small doses, as the antagonist that he's so good at; he's had some great feuds with the likes of Austin, DX, etc in the past, and I enjoyed the little bit with him and Jeff last night. But they cut to him after every freakin' match, and it's just way too much.

I agree, I'd be happy to see Shane and Stephanie around again.

[chelseafan]

WTF?? Hornswoggle.Was this the original plan or was it changed from Kennedy due to all the suspensions being handed out recently for the breaking of the WWE welness policy?I mean Umaga,Ragal,Kennedy etc.
As for Unforgiven,and Smackdowns World Championship match with Kahli in it it cant be good..lets hope Taker takes the belt back soon:blank:

[Jello1996]

Yep, word on the street is it was originally supposed to be a huge push for Kennedy, which would have been great. Kennedy was originally supposed to be getting the push as the person responsible for the death of Vince before the whole Benoit thing. I'd bet that the last minute change with this second push attempt was because of the suspensions.

I'm still hoping maybe Hornswoggle is just a decoy, and in a month or so when Kennedy returns, it is discovered that he is the real son, and the Hornswoggle thing was just some sort of setup.

I'm with Gabs on not minding some Vince time. I actually think he can be the best part of the show at times. It's the over the top segments like having a midget bastard son, and the "kiss my ass club" segments that make me sick.

As for Khali...well, I haven't even watched Smackdown since Edge vacated the title. The only thing that interests me in that whole 2 hours of TV each week is the MVP/Hardy feud, and that's not enough to remind me to tune in. Maybe when Edge comes back and gets the belt back, I'll tune in.

[Gabs]

I'm still hoping maybe Hornswoggle is just a decoy, and in a month or so when Kennedy returns, it is discovered that he is the real son, and the Hornswoggle thing was just some sort of setup.
That's exactly what I'm thinking, too.

As for Khali...well, I haven't even watched Smackdown since Edge vacated the title. The only thing that interests me in that whole 2 hours of TV each week is the MVP/Hardy feud, and that's not enough to remind me to tune in. Maybe when Edge comes back and gets the belt back, I'll tune in.

Ditto. I really like some of the performers on SD, but it's just not worth the time to watch.

[chelseafan]

Personally I think the MVP/Hardy feud is almost too good for S/Down..though without it I suppose there'd be nothing worth watching.To be honest I think Matt and MVp deserve a big push..I mean there far better athletes and far more entertaining than guys like kahli(ugh:blank:),Batista etc...The sooner Edge is back the better...I mean I thought Mysterio would liven it up but he doesnt seem the same since he's been back..maybe it's just ring rust though:nod:

[Gabs]

Return of Y2J = awesome
Jeff Hardy/HHH angle = awesome
continued push of Umaga and Snitsky = crap. stop it. now.

[chelseafan]

Awesome doesn't cover Y2J's return for me.Hopefull he can save us from the Randy orton era:p
I dont mind Umaga tbh,i think he's a good woker in the ring .But Snitky..he's just so blah:blank:

[Gabs]

Watching this 15th anniversary Raw right now... I swear, I think Hogan's wearing hair extensions. :giggle:

I was shocked to see RVD. :shock: But, then felt kinda cheated since his match was a whole... what, 2 minutes? :sigh:

[chelseafan]

Ha i loved the Raw reunion,great sense of Nostalgia seeing the likes of Steve Blackman,Gnagrel and the Million Dollar Man segment was just classic:nod:
Though it did seem like it was kinda the triple H show...i mean how many segments did he have?:blank:

[iheartshayid]

I realize this thread has been quiet for a while, but now that that pesky football game is over, it's time for the real Superbowl-- Wrestlemania!! What do you think of the card so far? I'm sad that Jeff didn't win the elimination chamber at No Way Out, but this just gives him a chance to do what he does best and rock the Money in the Bank Ladder match, then get another much deserved (and honestly, overdue) title shot. (On that note, Gabs, I love your banner and avi with every piece of my heart!!)

What about the Undertaker/Edge title match? Is there any chance that Taker won't win, thus breaking his incredible undefeated streak? I just don't see that happening...

And of course the Triple threat title match... I really don't want Cena to win. As much as I dislike Orton, I would rather see him win than Cena.

Your turn!

[chelseafan]

I think Cena or Triple H will win definitely,probably Cena.
And no,no chance Taker will lose IMO,none at all.
Jeff will win Money in the bank,and I expect HBK vs Flair in a career match.

[iheartshayid]

So, did anyone watch Wrestlemania? I didn't get to watch it because I'm at school and we can't really order PPV in our dorm rooms. I did, however, watch the results roll in, and none of it really surprised me (except maybe Mayweather over Big Show). I was very happy to see Matt Hardy make his return (esp. since my father's appendix pulled a Matt a few weeks ago, seeing Matt fully recovered and strong as ever gives me hope)! I was also glad to see the Undertaker keep his streak going, and, not to be irreverent because I have great amounts of respect and love of Ric Flair, to see Shawn give Ric his best and retire him the way he deserved to go out-- after an amazing match with a worthy opponent.

[chelseafan]

Orton retaining made me happy.
HBK/Flair was soooo emotional it was amazing. A *****star match IMO.Bst wrestler ever:(
Taker ME'ing was cool
The Maywether match turned out really good too.

SHelton going through the ladder in MITB was amazing though.Absolutely amazing.Shame Y2J didn't win it but I see why they gave it to Punk.Jeff being suspended made the match better.