Official Discussion: Bigspaceship1.com

[dasbiatch]

btw theres a border round the new pic in one of the palettes, just looks like some destortion from whatever pic he took the image from, just thought ud like to know

[lynzydarien]

Have any of you come across a song on the stardust site (http://www.stardust.com/index2.htm) by a singer named "Lucia Pamela" called "In the Year 2000". Weird, creepy and the sound quality is staticky.......is that Lucia name maybe a connection to Ana Lucia? The words are so simple, they're scary.

[DykeZuki]

I think I am on to someting here, a squirrel just tried
to assassinate me by running out in front of my car!
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/DykeZuki/SuperSquirrel.jpg

[lxicon]

Have any of you come across a song on the stardust site (http://www.stardust.com/index2.htm) by a singer named "Lucia Pamela" called "In the Year 2000". Weird, creepy and the sound quality is staticky.......is that Lucia name maybe a connection to Ana Lucia? The words are so simple, they're scary.

not on the stardust.com site. (i haven't heard of stardust.com) but the 404 error pages for bss1 are being redirected to:
http://www.ieattapes.com/library/Lucia%20Pamela%20-%20In%20the%20Year%202000.mp3

eg:
http://bigspaceship1.com/x
or
http://bigspaceship1.com/dfhedjfhsfjhs
or whatever.


--edit--

hi zuki! better check your tire pressure... those rodents can only reach so high, but they've got quite the chewing power!

[lynzydarien]

I got the stardust site a couple of pages back on this site. The song is so simple, it's disturbing.

[kafka7723]

i gazed at the midnight star last night....pretty cool....

[ans*]

Have any of you come across a song on the stardust site (http://www.stardust.com/index2.htm) by a singer named "Lucia Pamela" called "In the Year 2000". Weird, creepy and the sound quality is staticky.......is that Lucia name maybe a connection to Ana Lucia? The words are so simple, they're scary.


you mean the www.smartdust.com site not the stardust site, right?
Stardust site brings you diretly to the bss1 site, didnt know that too...
so you get the "in the year 2000" song always when you type something behind the /

for example www.smartdust.com/whateva

[lxicon]

an interesting link i found on the television without pity forum:

a page from the additional material for the album that the the lucia pamela song came from:
"Into Outer Space with Lucia Pamela" coloring book
http://www.pandemic.com/lucia/book5.html
* note the "dog is man" reference.

-lxicon

[TheDude]

If you go to this address

http://www.bigspaceship1.com/images

it plays the "safety dance" song

[ans*]

alright a little theory from my side:

what we see on the current image is a mouse on a red piece of cheese and a red dot on top with a larger white dot next to it...

so mice are often used in experiment for testing certain things, for example in the Skinner box experiments, which were also connected to Lost ( wasnt that in the orientation movie?)
Well anyway, then you got the cheese there to decoy the mouse.
the red dot which which was there first, could be the observer, especially when you see where the image links to at the moment ( www.heavens-above.com <--- about satellites)

So at the moment the mouse is made out of the haeckel illustration and he was also an observer, who took a closer look at animals/lifeforms and painted them.

I also remember one episode where there was a flashback from Locke, where he worked in a toy shop and built this mouse trap game and showed it to the kid... (pretty loose connection)

Well yeah thats mostly it... its pretty unstructured and I m sorry for my poor englisch hehe

Maybe you got some ideas...

[Lost Mirage]

Hey guys,

It's about 3:30 EST here and I cant get into the site...I'm getting a "The page cannot be displayed" error... is this me and my crappy computer (actually my mom's, hehe:D ) or is anyone else getting this too? So far it seems like me (checked on a couple other forums I lurk at)...gonna go try again now.

edit: never mind, working fine now. *sigh* looks like the PC just sucks.

[kafka7723]

i put in 4815162342 as a username and 2feno3 as a password at http://heavens-above.com and it WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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[Mithrandir]

I went to heavens-above.com and , i swear, the satellite on the pic on the right was on the point where the coordinates 4.815 162.342 are .. When I refreshed it, it changed to somewhere totally different.. spooky ! could be like totally coincidental but.. weird anyway..

edit: i'm talking about this: http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2953/thelocation8at.png (http://imageshack.us)

[fleetmaster]

i put in 4815162342 as a username and 2feno3 as a password at http://heavens-above.com and it WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



go to sky chart ... type in 0 for both hour and minutes:
you get ursa minor...
according to that polaris is the midnight star...

**edit**

google polaris and you get this...
" Lamdba Ursae Minoris is the reddish star up and to the right of Polaris" - http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/~kaler/sow/polaris.html
then a link to the star - http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/~kaler/sow/lambdaumi.html

now... this almost dosent apply since the red dot on bss1 is to the left

[ans*]

i put in 4815162342 as a username and 2feno3 as a password at http://heavens-above.com and it WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


just wondering: how come you tried 2feno3, I thought it was always 2feno6 mentioned...

[dasbiatch]

maybe the star is on the other side due to the lovely "lost" island being in the opposite hemisphere??

-edit-

i looked at ursa minor and this little story came up

"Artemis, the moon goddess, was followed by a band of beautiful nymphs, all sworn to a vow of chastity. One of the most lovely of these was Callisto. She was espied by Zeus, a god with a particular fondness for mortal women, on one of his many visits to earth. Disguising himself as Apollo, brother of Artemis, he overcame any scruples Callisto may have had and they became lovers. Eventually, Callisto was delivered of a son, and he was named Arcas (from the Greek arktos or "bear"). Knowing that Artemis would be furious with Callisto for breaking her vow, and more especially to shield her from the wrath of his wife, Zeus changed his unfortunate lover into a bear. She was forced into a lonely exile, roaming the forests and hiding from human hunters. At the same time, she was unable to form any close friendships with the animals because she still possessed human feelings. Many years later, her now fully-grown son Arcas was hunting in the woods when he saw a great bear which was, in fact, his own mother. As he lifted his bow and arrow to shoot her, Zeus quickly intervened, and changed Arcas into a little bear so that he immediately recognised his mother. The story has a happy ending as, lonely no more, Callisto and her son were transported to the heavens, thereafter to be known as the Ursa Major and Ursa Minor"

[fleetmaster]

maybe the star is on the other side due to the lovely "lost" island being in the opposite hemisphere??


that's the thing.. people in the southern hemisphere can't see polaris...
http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/scienceques2001/20020322.htm

another note, maybe kafka's a plant...

[mcgrad]

kafka probalby made the login ...

That is exactly what I was thinking... especially since the actual phrase was 2fen06 (with a zero, not a letter o). Nice try, kafka... go back to being a giant bug! ;) You're much better at that!

[Brisbane_rob]

are any of the sites spoiler sites??? have any of them given anything away ??

they are fun ..

so if you a sticker for accuracy then this thread and the dharma threads and oceanic threads should al lbe moved..

[shred]

Hi everybody. The rest of the forum is noticing your post count. I'm wondering if, at the very least, we could go through and prune the nonessential posts such as "OMG where are you?" and so forth? This thing is getting so big, it's causing the whole forum to lean.:)

[lxicon]

ok, lets see. where to start....

Coordinates: 90.0000° N, 0.0000° E
Elevation: -230 meters (-755 feet)
that would be floating under the north pole ice caps. there is no land at the north pole unlike the south pole.


especially since the actual phrase was 2fen06 (with a zero, not a letter o)
actually it is 2FENO6 (letter o) that's copied text from the flash at
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-10-10_18.02.00/


Um, what exactly is this site, is it an official one?
the quick version :
* the text "bigpsaceship1.com" was displayed on the secure version of thehansofoundation.org from sometime before Oct 7th until Oct 17th when the secure site started redirecting the the normal site.
* bigspaceship1.com (or bss1 for short) has been updated at least 50 times since then with different morse code messages in the title. there have been odd sped up version of songs some from LOST some not, but all (i think) consistant with what could have been in the hatch circa 1980. the images used range from stock optical illusions to images with hidden data in the colour palettes to composites made up of bits from previous images.
* to my knowledge, no one has proved bss1 to be puposefully linked from thehansofoundation.org nor have i seen any proof that it's just a fake. in fact, bss1 has never explained anything it has had up previously. it just keeps changing. and we keep trying to figure it out.


Why is this thread in the spoiler section?
when we are trying to link what this change or that change at bss1 has to do with LOST we undoubtedly reveal spoilers in our posts.


I'm wondering if, at the very least, we could go through and prune the nonessential posts such as "OMG where are you?"
doesn't bother me.


-lxicon (whew)
---- -------- --------------- ---------------- ----------------------- --------------------------------------------
"From the dawn of our species, Man has been blessed with curiosity. Our most precious gift, without exception, is the desire to know more - to look beyond what is accepted as the truth and to imagine what is possible."
- Alvar Hanso, Address to the U.N. Security Council, 1967


p.s. my sig is a link to my bss1 archive.

[DykeZuki]

Mr.Clucks has a movie of a chicken on it. And the Letter "K" on the right side.

Click on the "K" tells you...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ERROR 2342
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The server crashed. All data is LOST. Press the button in server room 108 to map the sequence - or call the help desk in Seattle at 1-206-203-0928.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
HTTP/1.1 Server on PORT:815
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

But the source code reveals... Kate's Mugshot.
http://www.kingcrossstatepolice.com/flyers/00-0428-23-5607-01.jpg

[Mithrandir]

Why is it bad that people notice this topic's post count? O.o

[Tibbz]

Nice try, kafka... go back to being a giant bug! ;) You're much better at that!


ROFL. I just finished reading that book in my AP English class.... :D

[Xerxes T Penguin]

Hi. I'm new.

Also in the source for kingscrossstatepolice. com is a quote by Horace. Wonder if it has anything to do with anything.

Punishment closely follows crime as its companion. -Horace

edit: wonder if thats a real phone number...

[Lucent]

I...

Just called the number.

Uh... what the...


Following the call there was screaming, lots of screaming on the other end, people yelling help, and a voice that said "What happened, to Oceanic flight 815?" Then there was a beep like a voicemail.

End of call.

[fleetmaster]

I looked back a bit and didn't see anything about this, but it could be posted:

Here is stuff about Gemini (the constellation on the hevans page):

Take a look at this (I'm still looking up the star next to Jupiter):
http://www.southernskyphoto.com/constellations/gemini.htm

and then this (notice the swan refrence)...

"It was the Romans who referred to the stars as Castor and Pollux; the names by which they are known today. In myth they are the twin Sons of Leda, born in an egg after Jupiter seduced her disguised as a swan. The seduction took place on the night of her wedding to the King of Sparta. Thus the twins were spawned by different fathers: Castor by a king, and Pollux by a god. Both were great warriors but Castor was renown for his skill in horsemanship (his name has been translated as 'horseman') and his talent for the arts, music and sciences, whilst Pollux was blessed with immortality, powerful strength and ferocity."
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gemini_myth.html

Go with that and I'll edit this post if I find more.....

Again sorry for reposting if this is already here..

**edit**

Jupiter has the largest magnetic field in the solar system (of the planets... not including the Sun)
Swan = Electromagnetic in LOST world

a stretch....

[ans*]

kingscrossstatepolice.com

you sure the URL is correct? I cant find a site...

and where is the URL from?

and what phone number?

edit: forget it, I should read better... ;)

[hocche]

Found this in the code of Mr. Clucks website:

"This site is not created by ABC or Touchstone. As a former writer for the show 'LOST' I have inside knowledge that serious fans may want to have. Instead of just leaking this info, I thought I would have a little fun and present it in code. Also I have nothing to do with the podcast I am linking to. I am just a big fan of it. - Quinn"

I assume that clears up many things?

[ans*]

yep clears up a lot... though the telephone thing is a pretty cool idea hehe

[Xerxes T Penguin]

So.. the number works. And its intentional. And Clucks is by an ex-author.

Cluck could provide for some interesting material in the future...

[KyRefugee]

Um, hi, new here. Appears to be new morse code at bss1.

Never mind, looks like its still the gazing slowly one...sorry.

[mcgrad]

ROFL. I just finished reading that book in my AP English class.... :D

High school English teacher here, so I couldn't resist! :D

By the way, LostMirage, good job on the constellation stuff!

[Lost Mirage]

:banana: Yay for prunage!!

Maybe we should put a primer on the first page to eliminate "WTF is this page about" posts....

[mcgrad]

:banana: Yay for prunage!!

Maybe we should put a primer on the first page to eliminate "WTF is this page about" posts....

That would be a great idea if people were reading the first few pages, but from the stuff I see here, it looks like people are reading the current page only or just the last few pages. I think that's why we keep seeing the WTF posts. Wonder if the mods can do a pop-up when someone clicks on this thread (one that could be disabled after reading the first time) that explains what is going on here...your primer. That way noobs would be exposed to it at least. No idea if it's possible though!:confused:

[Lost Mirage]

That would be a great idea if people were reading the first few pages, but from the stuff I see here, it looks like people are reading the current page only or just the last few pages. I think that's why we keep seeing the WTF posts. Wonder if the mods can do a pop-up when someone clicks on this thread (one that could be disabled after reading the first time) that explains what is going on here...your primer. That way noobs would be exposed to it at least. No idea if it's possible though!:confused:

Exactly! I dont know if you check out spoilers but there's a thread that nickv1025 made that's an upcoming episode list that he regularly updates when he gets knowlege, you know? Something like that, with what we know so far and screenshots and whatnot.

[chaz]

The site has changed. New morse .-- .- .-. ... - .- .-. ... "WARSTARS"
The cheese is blinking.

[cubunit]

if you click on the cheese it takes you to a space travel website...

[Downwithdlaw]

My only thought is that they are trying to draw our attention to the other two dots in the cheese. Maybe they line up with the two dots above somehow.

[lxicon]

nice catch chaz. i'm going to use your post time as the date of the change.

2005-11-15 23:36:00 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : haeckel mouse animated cheese
audio : none
morse : WARSTARS
link : http://www.heavens-above.com/


"warstars" - "star wars" ?
or maybe it's another reference to mars (god of war) but the plural form would sugest a constellation and mars can't be part of a constelation.

i'm going to have a look at the image headers to see if there anything else.

[fleetmaster]

Ares, had two sons/ attendants- Phobos and Deimos- the same name of Mars' two moons, which were first observed as stars. Researching more...

[scullygirl818]

What I don't understand is how the files are referred or why. If you change the image to jpg
http://bigspaceship1.com/images/8.jpg
if refers you to the mpeg file, if you change it to "mpg" you get the mp3 file then other files either go to the mp3 or mpg. That's strange to me. I've been missing updates the last photo I had seen was 4.gif!

[lxicon]

What I don't understand is how the files are referred or why. If you change the image to jpg
http://bigspaceship1.com/images/8.jpg
if refers you to the mpeg file, if you change it to "mpg" you get the mp3 file then other files either go to the mp3 or mpg. That's strange to me. I've been missing updates the last photo I had seen was 4.gif!

over the weekend bss1 implemented some http redirects into the access rules:

any 404 errors (file not found) are redirected to http://www.ieattapes.com/library/Lucia%20Pamela%20-%20In%20the%20Year%202000.mp3
(eg http://bigspaceship1.com/images/x )

if you try going directly to a flash file from a link that's not bss1 you get
http://www.shimadzu.co.jp/products/test/products/video/movie/05.mpg
(eg http://bigspaceship1.com/images/6.swf )
* same with .jpg


denied directory listings are redirected to:
http://www.ieattapes.com/library/Safety%20Dance.mp3
(eg http://bigspaceship1.com/images/ )


pretty much these keep people from poking around behind the website. if you want a copy of a media file (.gif, .jpg or .swf) and it's on the current page. use netscape ot firefox's "view page info" option, then go to the media tab select the item and save it to another directory.


--

well nothing in the palette or headers. i think the animation makes that harder to incorporate since most gif animation programs will reshuffle the palette to best suit all the frames of animation.

* there are 12 frames of animation (the full image, then 11 versions of the cheese with different dithers)

* there are no comments added to the file that i can see with ulead gif animator 2


--edit--

i put together an animated gif of all the mouse & cheese images that have been used to see if the "stars" are moving from pic to pic
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.mouse.and.cheese.progression.gif
* i'll probably keep updating that if new pics are used

these are the sources in order :
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-10-11_23.51.00/
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-11-13_13.18.55/
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-11-14_00.50.56/
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-11-15_23.36.00/


-lxicon

[tanpancho]

Hello people!

I'm Lost because this thread everday it's bigger !!!!
A lot information to read.

I found in a Spanish forum an interesting theory about Lost. But the most important i'ts that explain also same "facts" about bsss1!

I've found it on http://www.lostzilla.net/Foro/viewtopic.php?t=1487&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
(A Spanis forum, but theory in English)
I found where it was post: http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3377&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

(I'm sorry for my English!)

bye

[Lost Tar Heel]

The Heaven's Above site is down now. I wonder if the bigspaceship site will update today. 12 hours to go!

[bigassfan]

I googled War Stars and it came up with a book about Superweapons, available on Amazon. Kind of falls into the Hanso Mythology as a weapons manufacturer.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195066928/103-0453687-7809422?v=glance

[lxicon]

these most recent versions have been different i agree. maybe someone new has taken over the project or maybe the music copyright or bandwidth issues have made the flash versions too difficult to maintain.

here are the times of the updates for these last versions (pic changes only)
-they seem to happen around noon or midnight EST
2005-11-08
11:01 pm EST -> pic : Flying Mobula

2005-11-09
8:44 pm EST -> pic : Airline Bag (Fly Nigeria Airways - Always)

2005-11-10
8:43 pm EST -> pic : Ernst Haeckel nature illustration (tafel #16)

2005-11-11
11:54 am EST -> pic : Art of Propaganda: Kim Il Sung and Kim Ch'aek (Pg74)

2005-11-12
12:26 pm EST -> pic : 3-d gas mask / audio : Magnet and Steel

2005-11-13
1:18 pm EST -> pic : white mouse red cheese / audio : Make Your Own Kind of Music

2005-11-14
12:50 am EST -> pic : haeckel mouse red cheese

2005-11-15
11:36 pm EST -> pic : haeckel mouse animated cheese


* about the animated cheese; maybe it's an indicator that the white disc beside the red dot is the moon and not the sun? --> zoom in all the way here : http://moon.google.com/


--edit--

oh right bigassfan. i never thought about the star wars references being about the US strategic defense initiative and not the movie. hmm. it certainly has more to do the astronomy references.


-lxicon

[ans*]

* about the animated cheese; maybe it's an indicator that the white disc beside the red dot is the moon and not the sun? --> zoom in all the way here : http://moon.google.com/



-lxicon

har har ;)

[tommerp]

I knew the moon was made of cheese - and since it's Google, it must be true!!

Anyway, is it entirely possible that the "creater" of the bss1 site is just trying to push the envelope just a bit father than ABC is with their websites? I mean, we've not really having trouble finding out the "secret" stuff on the Hanso site or on oceanicflight815.com. Maybe they (bss1) are trying to take it a step farther. Might backfire, though if it goes too far... However, we are still talking about it & trying to figure it out - maybe it's working.................:D

[LOST_the_plot]

It would make more sense if the white circle were the moon 'cos at a certain time of the year you can see Mars clearly beside the moon.

Is it just me or does it look like something is in the animated cheese? Maybe I'm just hallucinating.

[lxicon]

It would make more sense if the white circle were the moon 'cos at a certain time of the year you can see Mars clearly beside the moon.

Is it just me or does it look like something is in the animated cheese? Maybe I'm just hallucinating.

apparently mars is currently doing it's closest approach to earth until 2018
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/051028_mars_close.html

and i looked at each frame of the animation. didn't see anything. just looks like various dither patterns.

[jedimaster1227]

The red dot represents the sun, the white the moon. The sun is always that red when an eclipse is about to happen. Any chance that it what is meant by this picture?

[jedimaster1227]

I think thats a logical assumption, and I just made this thread's 1500th post!

[dont]

Is it just me or does it look like something is in the animated cheese? Maybe I'm just hallucinating.

i don't know if it's the same, but I see 'dancing' red circles, the same size of the cheese 'holes'. It's not real, as they are not in the individual frames nor are they the result of a clever overlay of dithers, or they would repeat themselves in constant positions, whereas they appear to be randomly placed. I think they are visual artifacts/optical illusions related to image persistence or peripheral vision phenomena (kinda like this http://www.psy.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/Bergene.html ). Or, I'm just crazy.

jedimaster: double-posting and spamming just to get a specific post number? :no: :)

[DykeZuki]

I think thats a logical assumption, and I just made this thread's 1500th post!Double Posting doesn't count, so you just wasted our 1500 post. Geeze Thanks. [edit: I am a sneaky bastard (1500)]

And just a note... you can't usually see stars and the sun at the same time.

[other man]

Hi all,

My first post...I notice the site may have changed again. I received a song "Extra Sensory Preseption" at 10:00 PM Eastern time

[chaz]

Yea the site now redirests to http://www.bigspaceship1.com/esp.mp3

[mcgrad]

Hey! Catchy tune! :banana: Kind of a nice change from the mysterious pictures. The connection here seems obvious-- Dharma Initiative projects and the song about ESP.

[Lost Mirage]

...yeah, seems a little too obvious. Maybe I'm getting spoiled here, but a song about ESP seems like a re-directed page to something about polar bears or weather....

Maybe this is a filler for something new? It doesn't have any of the usual traits, the most obvious being the morse.

[SwtATO1]

I don't see it yet but is now the numbers 2 and 3 moving to form the number 23. Redirecting to www.jesusoftheweek.com

[scullygirl818]

i was just going to post that, thought maybe I had seen it first I always miss it (by 6 minutes, lol) the morse code is still warstars. I'm going to try to look through the image, see what I find

[DykeZuki]

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/khr.html

Password is Copenhagen.

[Zak88]

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/khr.html

Password is Copenhagen.

yes? not quite bbs1. . .but still pretty cool. I guess that discusses the "quarantine".

[Hit_theroad_Jak]

Whats with the 'Jesus' website it links to? Maybe it is something to do with the various religious theories involving Lost.

[LostLubber]

I agree about the religious connection. They just found the bible and then the site redirects to this Jesus site.

The site is linking to this www.heavenlyimages.com They would make some great christmas gifts LOL;)

[fleetmaster]

The site is linking to this www.heavenlyimages.com They would make some great christmas gifts LOL;)

That's almost as bad as the lady who will paint you or anything with Stevie Nicks. Saw some wicked tatoos on that site.

[lxicon]

sorry been away for a bit. anyone know who sings the ESP song? "bing crosby"? "dean martin"? i can't seem to find it on allmusic.com but i'm not sure of the song title which makes it hard.

i'll get back with more when i get a chance to look at the animated gif more closely.

--edit--

todell on the TWP forum found this:
"Extra Sensory Perception" by Sheldon Allman album : Folk Songs for the 21st Century (same album as the schisophrenic baby song)

[hudd]

Second heaven reference.. Back to back.. Hmm..

[ans*]

I think the ESP song is from Duke Pearson... cant proof it tho...
but it is a song from him ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000008BYX/102-1045737-3188947?v=glance&n=5174&v=glance )
and the sound of music he makes sounds pretty much like the ESP song ( http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/music/artist/card/0,,477865,00.html )...
so yeah it probably from him

[lxicon]

sorry i edited my previous post instead of posting a new one and i guess you missed the edit.

"Extra Sensory Perception" by Sheldon Allman album : Folk Songs for the 21st Century (same album as the schisophrenic baby song)

[Lost Tar Heel]

How did you find the ESP song?

[ans*]

ah alright ... nevermind

[lxicon]

How did you find the ESP song?
i put that in when i edited my post on page 101:

todell on the TWP forum found it. it's in the listing of of the songs on that album. i had the album list from the schizophrenic baby incarnation from http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-10-11_01.58.00/
but i didn't think to check that listing. i will in the future though.

[Lost Tar Heel]

Okay, so the site updated and it was the ESP song before the 23 animation there now.

[lxicon]

Okay, so the site updated and it was the ESP song before the 23 animation there now.

yup! here's the time frame as i saw it:

2005-11-15 23:36:00 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
pic : haeckel mouse animated cheese
audio : none
morse : WARSTARS
link : http://www.heavens-above.com/


2005-11-16 21:52:53 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
html : redirected to http://bigspaceship1.com/esp.mp3 file
song : "Extra Sensory Perception" by Sheldon Allman album : Folk Songs for the 21st Century


2005-11-17 01:04:40 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
pic : animated 23
audio : none
morse : WARSTARS
link : http://www.jesusoftheweek.com/

* SwtATO1 seemed to get the animated 23 ast 12:58 AM but that's close enough to my log and i can't be bothered to change my logs for 6 minutes.

** i check randomly so my times are not the exact time of the change, just the exact time of when i found the change.


--edit--


i looked around at the jesus of the week site... i HAVE this movie (a friend of mine was a "dead lesbian" in it):
http://jesusoftheweek.com/jesii/239/index.html
* "Harry Knuckles and the Treasure of the Aztec Mummy" is a better movie by the same guys though.

[sputniksrevenge]

off topic here but i love jesus christ vampire hunter...and now i must special order yet another dvd..thankx lxicon

[sing_4themoment]

guys, go to http://www.jesusoftheweek.com/, or get redirected of bss1, and click on the www.heavenlyimages.com url, it will show a site error, then click the doube SS at the bottom, or just click around it. A ling of url code things will appear, it's really long...not sure what it means.

someone want to investigate in it? lol

[Skeddi]

No site error here.

Edit: when going to the heavenlyimages site via the jesusoftheweek one, you go to this site: http://www.jesusoftheweek.com/%E2%80%9Dhttp://www.heavenlyimages.com%E2%80%9D

Which is just a mistake.

Then indeed you get some stuff, but it's just normal error messages from the server.

[lxicon]

guys, go to http://www.jesusoftheweek.com/, or get redirected of bss1, and click on the www.heavenlyimages.com url, it will show a site error, then click the doube SS at the bottom, or just click around it. A ling of url code things will appear, it's really long...not sure what it means.

someone want to investigate in it? lol


yeah the html at the jesusoftheweek site is:

href=”http://www.heavenlyimages.com”

those are close-quotes not normal quotes ( ” as opposed to " )
so the browser doesn't recognise them as quotes and thinks you want to link to :
http://www.jesusoftheweek.com/”http://www.heavenlyimages.com”
the "%E2%80%9D" is the html escape chars for the close-quotes


--edit--

(grr those close quotes mess up the post every time i try editing, so i'm forced to repost the original... sorry)


i was looking at the frames of animation in the bss1 9.gif. no hidden palette stuff bu the last frame seems the clearest. it looks like a house number or something on a brick wall:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.animated.23.images.9.frames048.g if

here are all the frames if anyone cares to look as well:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.animated.23.images.9.gif.frames. zip

[finny2k5]

Got this from another site. Dunno if it was posted here or not but its interesting.

" I was doing some digging (pun intended) on the hansofoundation domain and it's web server. The IP address that resolves to www.thehansofoundation.org is 66.132.217.121. If you do a reverse DNS lookup on that IP address (Windows users can do thing by typing "ping -a 66.132.217.121") then you find out that the reverse DNS for that IP resolves to a host name called "bigspaceship1.com"

Notice the music on the site is from the first ep and the morse code in the title
.... . .-.. .--. / -- . --..-- / --- -... .. -....- .-- .- -. / -.- . -. --- -... .. / -.-- --- ..- .----. .-. . / -- -.-- / --- -. .-.. -.-- / .... --- .--. .
Which translates to:
HELP ME, OBI-WAN KENOBI YOU'RE MY ONLY HOPE


http://bigspaceship.com/ - go to the portfolio and lost is their :eek: view case study and it shows oceanicairlines site and stuff , ps . the slogan - the island is waiting . kind of suggests you are sent their for whatever reason?

[scullygirl818]

you know, look at the actual animation again (we're so busy looking at individual frames, lol) and you can see the vertical lines that appear to be bricks as well so i think you are right. My only question is does that mean that there really is a house with that address number involved with the show, or do you think they just used it as a background for the animation?

checked at 1:00 pm still says warstars

[lxicon]

My only question is does that mean that there really is a house with that address number involved with the show, or do you think they just used it as a background for the animation?

i'm not sure. there hasn't been much (or anything?) about house addresses in the show. i just pointed it out because it might make sense later. i'm not sure if it's a house address or some sort of sign affixed to the brick wall. it could just be a piece of paper taped to a wall and they took a pic of it for original content.

if it starts to be a theme we can look deeper.

[dont]

the 23 does look like a civic # from a house. I googled around but couldn't locate the source.

in the most recent set of images there are two underlying themes:

astronomy theme: star related morse-code, part of the images and some of the links

numbers theme:

4 - flying mobula is 4th image of page
8 - nigeria airways bag is 8th image of its page
15 - ? Possible: 1915 (WWI) was the first time gas were extensively used as weapons (and therefore gas masks were used as well). I admit this is a bit weak. Does anyone know if it was a WWI mask, or the source of image?
16 - Haekel's jellyfish is from 16th illustrative table
23 - current animated #23
42 - ? Possible: the mouse/cheese image series. A mouse image with with an embedded # 42 was used in an earlier bss1 page (IIRC) and/or connection with the mice/42 motif in The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy
108 - Kim Il Sung image was from page 108 of that website

if the images are assigned correctly, the numbers theme is complete and he/she might move on to something different
:plotting:

[hmmm]

I found this ink on another Lost forum, but the project seems to tie in quite well with a lot of the things I've seen & heard on the bss.1 site.

http://www.hauntedink.com/25/conet.html

[lxicon]

I found this ink on another Lost forum, but the project seems to tie in quite well with a lot of the things I've seen & heard on the bss.1 site.

http://www.hauntedink.com/25/conet.html

pretty cool actually.
http://www.irdial.com/crackhome.htm <- from the linked site.

-edit--
oh and the first link on that page to the "venona project" was busted but i found it here. it seems to be a real project: http://www.nsa.gov/venona/index.cfm
* one odd thing at the NSA page: a placeholder for a banner ad http://lxicon.perception.net/conet/www.nsa.gov.ads.ads00001.gif


sorry off topic.
-lxicon.

[ans*]

the item on the jesusoftheweek site changed... its now a cravat, but they are also mentioning the ipod nano

well its probably just the weekly update, just wanted to mention it...

[siggisplendid]

have you forgotten about www.bigspaceship1.org? there is a link to hanso foundation

[Sidewinder]

Yes, Orion is possible. I have thought that it could be Cancer and Ursa Minor...

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2377/constellations8up.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=constellations8up.jpg)


I know that this picture hasn't been here for a while, but I think I may have something related to it. On the official LOST website (www.oceanicflight815.com) there is an "Explore" section. It shows a seres of video clips. When each clip is done, a dot shows up. This makes me think that you have to click the dots to make the shape of a constellation. Its just a theory, but it seems possible.

EDIT

Out of curiosity and boredom, I went to www.bigspaceship2.com . Before it was completely loaded, in the corner of Firefox it said "Transferring data from www.oceanicflight815.com"

[lxicon]

have you forgotten about www.bigspaceship1.org? there is a link to hanso foundation

links TO the hanso foundation don't really mean anything.
http://thehansofoundation.org/ <- see? there's one now.


--edit--


oh and Sidewinder i had a similar thought. unfortunately, the dots change location sometimes when you click a new link. it'd be a real pain to try to get them to line up to anything on purpose.


--edit--


ohh! something new at bss1... one sec!


--edit--

2005-11-19 13:50:10 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : stuffed bear
audio : opera "dark star"?
morse : DARKSTONELIGHTSTONE


hmm i need to look up the song.... brb.

-lxicon

[scullygirl818]

i see you found the new update I just did. Did you check the photo, I equalized it in ps and found 2FEN06. I'm going to decompile the flash file and take a look and I'll upload the image here in a second in an edit

--EDIT--
Ok here is the teddy bear after it's been equalized
http://www.scifivision.com/2fen06bear.gif
I captured it from the screen because it was flash (not from the actual image)

I'm going to check out the flash file now

--EDIT--
Okay I took the time to put the pic on my site - not showing up here for some reason. The link to the pic is here: http://scifivision.com/2fen06bear.gif

--Another EDIT--
Okay I figured I should edit rather than making another post - upon looking at the source - the flash file is named (not the file name which is 10.swf) DOGSTAR - and I was listening to the song - I'm pretty sure that is what the opera is singing "DOGSTAR" not darkstar. That makes a little more sense connecting with previous things on the site

[lxicon]

yup. it's hidden in palette 1 and 3

*grrr* i like to name my files descriptively and i don't know the oprea song. once i figure that out i'll post files.


--edit--


ahh todell on TWP found the song title "I'LL SAIL UPON THE DOG-STAR"
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=62606


-lxicon

[scullygirl818]

ok i found out about the song - didn't actually find the file though, but it seems to be by Henry Purcell. (On one page it said words were by anonymous, another said it was arranged by someone else) anyway, the song is called "I'll Sail Upon the Dog Star" and these are the lyrics:

I'll sail upon the Dog Star,
And then pursue the morning,
I'll chase the moon 'till it be noon,
But I'll make her leave her horning.

I'll climb the frosty mountain,
And there I'll coin the weather;
I'll tear the rainbow from the sky,
And tie both ends together.

The starts pluck from their orbs, too,
And crowd them in my budget!
And whether I'm a roaring boy,
Let all the nations judge it.

There are 2 sites I found so far you can check if you want:
http://www.recmusic.org/lieder/get_text.html?TextId=16129
http://www.gordonjacob.com/w_ill_sail.html

How did I find it? I tried typing in different pieces of what I could understand of the rest of the lyrics - i thought it said i'll sing upon the dogstar lol

[Sidewinder]

I got the same letter and number sequence in Photoshop. Thats all I found. I wonder what it means.... And I wonder.... Maybe the teddy bear has something to do with the kidnapped boy's bear?

[lxicon]

a few links to the hidden 2FENO6 data if you want to see how i saw it:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.stuffed.bear.palette.1.jpg
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.stuffed.bear.palette.3.jpg

[mcgrad]

OKay, well we have another reference to the dogstar-- Sirius, is that you!?! Sorry, love Harry Potter! Heehee.
And Sidewinder, I think that is the logical connection.
Lex-- you rock again!

[fleetmaster]

Could darkstone = Black Rock?

The song has to do with sailing...

But how lightstone might translate in Lost terms?

Also backgammon?

*Edit*

from wikipedia:

Black and white
The colors black and white, which traditionally reflect good or positive forces versus evil or negative forces, have been featured a number of times, particularly in regards to John Locke. In "Pilot", Locke shows Walt a black and a white backgammon piece and says, "two players, two sides, one is light, one is dark." In "House of the Rising Sun", Jack finds a pouch on a pair of mummified corpses, nicknamed "Adam and Eve" by the survivors, containing one white stone and one black stone, which he then hides from Locke. In the opening sequence of "Raised by Another", Claire has a nightmare in which Locke has one black eyeball and one white eyeball. The black-and-white logo of The Dharma Initiative appears on various surfaces in the hatch compound; the same symbol appears on the labels of all the food in a storage room, and on the tail of a shark that circles Michael and Sawyer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_%28TV_series%29#Black_and_white

[Mithrandir]

Jack finds a dark and a light stone on one of the dead bodies in the caves where they later move to..

[lxicon]

fleetmaster

i like the backgammon idea! there could be something to that.

"Locke: Backgammon is the oldest game in the world. Archaeologists found sets when they excavated the ruins of Ancient Mesopotamia. Five thousand years old. That's older than Jesus Christ.

Walt: Did they have dice and stuff?

Locke: Mmm. But theirs weren't made of plastic. Their dice were made of bones.

Walt: Cool.

Locke: Two players. Two sides. One is light; one is dark.

Locke: Walt ... Do you want to know a secret?"

[lxicon]

2005-11-21 22:02:35 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : 2FENO6 down the barrel of a gun
audio : hot child in the city
morse : WHITELAB
oject id : child

[dknight07]

Pardon my ignorance with this stuff, but is it normal that I can delete the text and type whatever I want to in the barrel of the gun?


edit: well i could do it 10 mins ago, and now i cant? i must be losing it.

[lxicon]

you probably could... the text was in a layer not part of the image:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.2FENO6.down.the.barrel.of.a.gun. gif

the file hasn't changed since i posted the last message, so you should still be able to do whatever you did before.

-i'll be back after stewart/colbert...

[ekl44fe]

I can do it too. Put your cursor after the 6 and you can type whatever you want.

[memorex]

I have no idea if this was posted before but

when i go to http://www.bigspaceship1.com/images/1.gif
i get a video ,

the video looks like some sort of balloon being popped and in the corner of the video it says Shimadzu. http://www.shimadzu.com/ is a company that deals with biotechnology.. hmm very weird

and when i go to just http://www.bigspaceship1.com/images/
i get transferred to this website http://www.ieattapes.com/library/Safety%20Dance.mp3

i dunno whats going on with all this but its very random so far

[ekl44fe]

Yes it has already been posted by lxicon

[mcgrad]

Okay, so this is the creepiest picture by far, imo. :worry: I got CHILLS when I saw it.
Here are the lyrics to the song-- could easily refer to Shannon. Let the speculation begin!

Hot Child In The City
Nick Gilder

Danger in the shape of something wild
Stranger dressed in black, she's a hungry child
No one knows who she is or what her name is
I don't know where she came from or what her game is
Hot child in the city
Hot child in the city
Runnin' wild and looking pretty
Hot child in the city
So young to be loose and on her own
Young boys, they all want to take her home
And when she comes downtown
The boys all stop and stare
When she comes downtown
She walks like she just don't care, yeah
Hot child in the city
Hot child in the city
Runnin' wild and looking pretty
Yeah
Hot child in the city
Come on down to my place, baby
We'll talk about love
Come on down to my place, woman
We'll make love
Hot child in the city
(Hot child in the city)
She's kinda dangerous
(Hot child in the city)
Young child
(Runnin' wild and lookin' pretty)
Young child, runnin' wild
(Hot child in the city)
Hot child in the city
(Hot child in the city)
(Hot child in the city)
(Hot child in the city)
Hot child in the city
(Hot child in the city)
Hot child in the city
(Hot child in the city)


By the way, I have noticed that a lot of the former regular posters haven't been around in awhile... I am hoping they are still reading and haven't given up on figuring this thing out. Miss you guys!

[fleetmaster]

WhiteLab - Vincent? He's a Lab (yellow, but close enough)...

I typed that into the gun, but nothing...

Will try the numbers... Nothing....

Ah the all night typing begins!

[DykeZuki]

Some of us regular posters are still here. Still reading... Still waiting for something... I do find it odd that we can type over the gun barrel. Still Clueless as Ever. Letting Lex figure out all the technical info and stuff... but if I happen to catch anything new, I'll be sure to Post ASAP.

Hey Lex are you monitoring Oceanic Air as well? I haven't seen any updates there in a very long time.

Laters,

[lxicon]

...Letting Lex figure out all the technical info and stuff... but if I happen to catch anything new, I'll be sure to Post ASAP.
Hey Lex are you monitoring Oceanic Air as well? I haven't seen any updates there in a very long time.
Laters,

the text in the barrel is a text layer in flash, not part of the image. you can set whether a text or label is editable or not in flash. that must have been left as editable. i've made similar mistakes with kiosk software, you don't notice it's like that until someone types stuff into it.
* makes for a cool effect though in this aplication. it gives the barrel some depth. and kinda makes you not want to poke your mouse (finger) in there.
** oh and the text was done in white font on white bg.

i slowed the music down and it sounds close to the version on on the album "Nick Gilder City Nights". the slow down isn't perfect but it helps when listening.
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.hot.child.in.the.city.slow.mp3
* Nick Gilder is canadian like ethan and nathan said they were.


the image only had one palette entry that wasn't black. it was transparent rather than white. here it is on a black bg:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.2FENO6.down.the.barrel.of.a.gun. black.bg.html
and here on red:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.2FENO6.down.the.barrel.of.a.gun. red.bg.html
* this is similar to the polar bear / scorpion gif from before.


as for references: hmmm...

the 2FENO6 is placed inside the barrel as though it is a solid thing. so it might not be a password or some other intangible idea. i still have my ideas pegged on this :
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/user.submitted.archive/khonshu.2FENO6.jpg
but it doesn't exist in the real world as far as i know. but in the LOST universe?

the objext id is simply "child", the morse "whitelab". i guess you could tie the whole thing together and say it represents a child being kidnapped at gunpoint for scientific experiments? <- walt or "turnip head" being kidnapped at gunpoint by the degroots? (sp?)

i dunno. that's all i got.


--edit--

oh and zuki, there's too much stuff on http://www.oceanicflight815.com/ and http://www.oceanic-air.com/ for me to get a handle on how to keep track. bss1 is thankfully short on media elements to monitor.

-lxicon

[Outback Maverick]

A little more about 2FENO6

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15584636&dopt=Citation

Lung function in children?

http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/content/full/164/10/1879

This one also references Shimadzu. "Recruited children" sounds eerie.

[Dennie_Hebels]

A little more about 2FENO6

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15584636&dopt=Citation

Lung function in children?

http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/content/full/164/10/1879

This one also references Shimadzu. "Recruited children" sounds eerie.

This has nothing to do with the molecule 2FeNO6. The Fe stands for iron, N is nitrogen and O is oxygen. FENO stands for fractional exhaled nitric oxide. Also the Pubmed site is a standard scientific literature database and the site with the article is also perfectly normal. No way Lost can have anything to do with this. You don't just create a site on Pubmed or on the website of a journal. You first need to publish an article based on a REAL study. Believe me I know;)

[Dukefrukem]

2005-11-21 22:02:35 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : 2FENO6 down the barrel of a gun
audio : hot child in the city
morse : WHITELAB
oject id : child


2Fe NO6

Chemical Formula for Iron filings

and you can type in the barrel

[dont]

I think that the authors are starting to think that we are thick, so they are putting the 'clues' in more evidence :D
not that it helps...
oh, and for an actual image of Feno6 structure:
http://pubs.acs.org/isubscribe/journals/jacsat/126/i43/figures/ja046942bf00008.gif

[Hunter Maxin]

I know that those who came late to the party and wanted to help left (except to spy on the occassional insight) because you guys were so rude to anyone who joined up after there were already 50+ pages.

Maybe some of your regulars didn't like reading you be so exlcusionary.

Adios!

[mcgrad]

I know that those who came late to the party and wanted to help left (except to spy on the occassional insight) because you guys were so rude to anyone who joined up after there were already 50+ pages.

Maybe some of your regulars didn't like reading you be so exlcusionary.

Adios!

Wow! Rude?! Hello, Kettle, this is the Pot, you're black.

[lxicon]

i think Hunter Maxin was refering to the reactions some posters got when posting stuff that was mentioned 20 pages ago (or sometimes 2 pages ago). it's a fair gripe, but on the other hand, we can't be reposting stuff over and over, or the thread wil get even longer.

best bet: if you see a post like that - ignore it. we've now added 3 more posts that people won't want to read through. if we ignore anything offtopic (especially if it gets your hackels up) we'll be better off in the long run.


...my $0.02
-lxicon


...mmmm... hackels!


--edit-- (on topic)



since bss1 started messing with redirects of 404 errors and various non-local link redirects, i've noticed that when i download the .swf files for my archive they don't get the date of the time of the download they get a date prior to that. it could be the real modification time of the file on the server!

eg:
Nov 19 13:33 ./2005-11-19_13.50.10/images/10.swf
Nov 21 21:51 ./2005-11-21_22.02.35/images/11.swf

notice that the date of the file (listed first) doesn't match the name of the directory that was created when the file was downloaded? i even had a private message from someone who noticed the discrepancy with 10.swf in the symlinked versions of the archived files : http://lxicon.perception.net/images/
* i need them in /images/ for the html to display correctly at http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/


i don't think i'll change the times in my logs, because the file may have inhertied it's modification time from when it was created and kept that time when it was uploaded to the webserver at bss1.

the time that it was uploaded to the server (with the new html) could have been any time between the the modification time of the .swf file and when i first noticed it and logged the change.

* i'm not sure if this helps at all, but new data about how bss1 works is not easy to come by.

[Fraslet]

It's changed again!

The pic appears to be a hand and a foot (12.gif)

links to:

http://www.lotto.ie/prizes_results/prizes.asp?date=22/11/05&draw_date=Nov+19+2005

I can't get the link to load but I know the results were 4 8 15 16 23 24 bonus 19.

Morse: WHITELAB

[lxicon]

nice catch!

the image date is Nov 22 14:57 but here's my log:

2005-11-22 15:15:09 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : hand and foot
audio : none
morse : WHITELAB
link : http://www.circusmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorix&Itemid=26&task=result&searchplugin=category&categorie=Dierendressuur


i was able to get the link to load... "lions and tigers and bears (and elephants) oh MY!"
* pretty cool old-school artwork! i like the chimp in the tux!


--edit--

oh thats not the same link? maybe they changed it when it didn't work. i only caught the most recent link.


-lxicon

[Fraslet]

And they've changed it again as there in now no link, image hand and foot.

And AGAIN as the image is now 13.gif and the link is

http://www.circusmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorix&Itemid=26&task=result&searchplugin=category&categorie=Dierendressuur&cp=1

The actual image file itself is http://www.circusmuseum.nl/photo/thumbs/TEY_001/TEY0010000059.jpg and appears on page 5

Morse is still WHITELAB

[Skeddi]

Site changed again to pic with polarbears!

And there's a link: http://www.circusmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorix&Itemid=26&task=result&searchplugin=category&categorie=Dierendressuur&cp=1

Seems they were updating it while we were checking.

[lxicon]

hmm i guess this is a change in progress. here is what i got last:
2005-11-22 15:30:31 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : bears on a boat
audio : none
morse : WHITELAB
link : http://www.circusmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorix&Itemid=26&task=result&searchplugin=category&categorie=Dierendressuur&cp=1


--edit--


found the source image http://www.circusmuseum.nl/photo/thumbs/TEY_001/TEY0010000059.jpg on page 5...
nothing appears to be hidden in the colour palettes.

-lxicon

[Fraslet]

It would appear that the hand and foot image was only on the site very very briefly, and the Irish Lottery link even less!

Is this the shortest displayed page that we've seen so far?

[Skeddi]

Picture is on page 5 of the site... nothing special.

[lxicon]

It would appear that the hand and foot image was only on the site very very briefly, and the Irish Lottery link even less!
Is this the shortest displayed page that we've seen so far?


hmm there have been other quick turnarounds before:

2005-10-13 15:15:00 EST
pic : 3-d gas mask
audio : (error loop) Magnet and Steel by Walter Egan appears on Walter Egan's Not Shy (1978)
morse : CHOCOLATE ASCLEPIUS

and 10 minutes later to:

2005-10-13 15:25:00 EST
pic : two animated polar bears plus single frame 2FENO6
audio : silent
morse : CHOCOLATE ASCLEPIUS




and especially this one

2005-10-13 17:08:00 EST
pic : bunny in a beaker
audio : Want A Danish by Van Morrison album: In Session
morse : CHOCOLATE ASCLEPIUS

and 3 minutes later to:

2005-10-13 17:11:00 EST
pic : bunny in a beaker
audio : rodent revolution long version
morse : CHOCOLATE ASCLEPIUS


-----------------


i find it interesting that the link didn't work so instead of editing the link, they moved onto the next version (12.gif to 13.gif) i guess the links and the images go togther. at least they do for the source images found at some of the links provided.


--edit--

hmm the bss1 site's not responding now. could be busy or the web server is down. it pings though so the machine is up:

# ping bigspaceship1.com
PING bigspaceship1.com (64.207.186.80) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from bigspaceship1.com (64.207.186.80): icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=112 ms
64 bytes from bigspaceship1.com (64.207.186.80): icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=87.0 ms
64 bytes from bigspaceship1.com (64.207.186.80): icmp_seq=2 ttl=47 time=84.6 ms
64 bytes from bigspaceship1.com (64.207.186.80): icmp_seq=3 ttl=47 time=87.9 ms

--- bigspaceship1.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 4 received, 20% packet loss, time 4036ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 84.625/93.082/112.745/11.419 ms, pipe 2



--edit--

the archive is still up:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/?M=D


--edit--

bss1 seems to be back. *whew*

-lxicon

[dont]

it's pretty amazing that the irish lotto extraction (the non-working link, a working one is this: http://www.lotterycanada.com/lottery/?job=int_results , about half-way) pulled out almost perfectly THE numbers (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 24). just a 24 instead of a 42.

It also shows that they are working on the bbs1 site on the fly, as the extraction was 3 days a go.

[ans*]

just one little thing I noticed, the name of the ship is "nordstern" which is german for northern star , polaris or Alpha Ursae Minoris... didnt we have that connection to that constellation somewhere?

edit: and btw these pics are seriously cool!

[sing_4themoment]

some description of the picture, not that useful i dont think:
http://www.circusmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorix&Itemid=26&task=result&searchplugin=category&categorie=Dierendressuur&cp=5&resultplugin=list

btw, lxicon, where are you in toronto? I live here too =)

[lxicon]

just one little thing I noticed, the name of the ship is "nordstern" which is german for northern star , polaris or Alpha Ursae Minoris... didnt we have that connection to that constellation somewhere?

NICE CATCH!

-previous morse code entries that relate:
DOGSTAR
GAZE HIGH AT MIDNIGHT
GAZINGSLOWLYATTHEMIDNIGHTSTAR

and the constelations hidden in :
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.type.settings.for.23.palette.3.g if


--edit--

sing_4themoment : King & Bathurst area.

[sing_4themoment]

nice, I'm up in Yonge & Eglinton

[Hit_theroad_Jak]

Do you think there is any relevence of the flags on the ship. The blue and yellow is Sweden I think and the other I really don't know.

[lxicon]

Do you think there is any relevence of the flags on the ship. The blue and yellow is Sweden I think and the other I really don't know.

the other flag is norway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden-Norway

-could be an other narvik reference?

[bigassfan]

mystery solved! The polar bears got on the island themselves!! =)

I do have the give the author of the site much props...the links themselves are rather rare finds, very detailed artistic collections, I have never seen such sites before.

[kiko0]

hey!! Im in Toronto too ...(Well Thornhill that is) Bathurst and steels here

[DykeZuki]

Mr.Clucks website has an update. Pretty Sad - Stealing from LOST Channel 4 England WebSite.

[kiko0]

Mr.Clucks website has an update. Pretty Sad - Stealing from LOST Chanel 4 England WebSite.
I was just searching around to see if anyone has a screen cap of the flasing thing I tried to get one but alas i gave up...there is also some google site in the source i went to it downloaded some sort of java file and it refuses to open so i dunno what to do:eek:
EDIT:
I just got it lol
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/chronic_kiko/cluck.jpg

[Skeddi]

The 'google'-site in the source is a trackingsite, has nothing to do with it, and the name urchin for the js is just a coincidence.

[IHateForumRegs]

Hi guys,

I've been following this thread anonymously from the start. I just hate forum registrations, but I finally decided to register and post this message ;)

Actually, this is directed to lxicon and the other BSS1 collectors - you can easily circumvent their .htaccess stuff. The reason why you can't access the files is because of the lacking HTTP_REFERER field. For the less tech-savvy, when you click on a link, or a webpage requests some images (or Flash, or whatever), the server has information on where the request came from. So, in this case, if the webpage at BSS1 wants to load a Flash file, the server knows that the request came from the page itself and is legal. If you want to access it directly, the above mentioned field is empty, and the server forbids you from accessing the resource.

What you need is wget, or a shell for it, or a suitable clone.

See here: http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/wget.html
And here: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/hherold/

And what you want is to set the HTTP_REFERER field to "http://bigspaceship1.com", and possibly the USER_AGENT field to mimic some popular browser, in case they decide to disallow wget from working. That's accomplished with --referer and --user-agent command line options respectively. I don't know if the available GUI's allow a more friendly way of setting that information, but I presume they do.

So, to cut a long story short, this thing will grab an entire copy of the BSS1 website without much difficulty. No more messing around saving data that was cached by the browser. It's all there in one go.

OK, that was it, I'll go back to my silent, lurking mode now ;)

[lxicon]

there are lots of tricks in that realm of thought. when the .htaccess stuff started going into effect the other week, i found that as i described a behaviour on this thread, the behaviour would chnage fairly soon afterwards. i don't think it's a suprise that the bss1 people monitor the these forums (the /refer/ page would show them which forums are linking to bss1)

so, yeah there are ways around most things, but i try to keep my secrets to myself if they seem to get "fixed" after i mention them.

using the "page info" and saving from the cache was a suggestion i made that most people with a good browser (sorry IE people) can do without downloading website copiers like WinHTTrack or using lib-www perl modules, etc. it's a sure fire way to grab content that bss1 can't do anything about without making the page unviewable to everyone.

* in fact, some firewall programs will remove the http referer from your web requests for you, and that would certainly break bss1 as it is now.

-lxicon

[Dennie_Hebels]

Since you're being directed to a Dutch website http://www.circusmuseum.nl when clicking the picture with the polar bear ship you can ask me for any translations you might wanna have ;)

[lxicon]

Since you're being directed to a Dutch website http://www.circusmuseum.nl when clicking the picture with the polar bear ship you can ask me for any translations you might wanna have ;)

anything interesting for the pic used (first one on page 5)
http://www.circusmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorix&Itemid=26&task=result&searchplugin=category&categorie=Dierendressuur&cp=5
* what does it say when you click the shopping cart, just normal order stuff or does it have more info on the print?

[Arcon]

Hullo!

I've been watching bss1 for ages but i figured i aught to get involved and put my anal nature to good use (or relative good use). So a mixture of trawling though old threads and outright ripping off lxicon :D i started collecting what useful scraps were lying around and put them on http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Bigspaceship1.

Doing my own legwork instead of relying on complete theft, i probably revisited a lot of well trodden paths and indeed many discoveries i was chuffed i'd discovered i later found out were yesterday's news, however, i did find a few things which (to my knowledge) arent documented.

first off: the site redirected to ipodnews.com twice for short periods of time. No one seemed to pick up that iPodNews.com is hosted on the same IP as bigspaceship1.com (as is smartdust.com). It's a completely automated site running off RSS feeds from other gadget sites and apple's own top10 feed to make it seem legit. It's a compelte fake and runs on its own.

secondly: the only content of any note is the email address "robots@ipodnews.com". the "about" text says to 'feed the robots' i.e. email them. has anyone done so? I've emailed but havent recieved a reply.

thirdly: the security certificate for bigspaceship1.com has an email address on it too "robots@bigspaceship1.com". I'm guessing, since theyre the same domain, its the same inbox so has anyone written to the robots?

Like i said, i'm trying to explore a few more angles and start tying together a few patterns as best as i can. If anyone would like to contribute to my wiki entry and plug a hole or two, please do. i'll try and be a bit more active on this thread now that i'm fully up to speed.

Cheers.

[Haloperidol]

His Dark Materials..

It makes you wonder, does it not?

[lxicon]

... So a mixture of trawling though old threads and outright ripping off lxicon :D i started collecting what useful scraps were lying around and put them on http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Bigspaceship1.


ahh! so you were the one downloading everything, in order, from the archive the other day. heehee i was wondering who that was. -no worries-

glad you joined the effort!

first off: the site redirected to ipodnews.com twice for short periods of time...
there used to be a fake banner ad on ipodnews.com for a sponsor "narvik mines" that was my clue that it was from the same people.
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/narvikmines.gif

secondly: the only content of any note is the email address "robots@ipodnews.com".
robots.txt in the root of any website is used for web crawlers to indicate directories you don't want to be crawled. eg : http://lxicon.perception.net/robots.txt
ipodnew.com just has an email interface for it (it seems) but i haven't actually emailed it. i know others have and i haven't heard any reports of what replies they got back, if any.


--edit--

His Dark Materials..
sorry, i must have missed something, what is that about?

-lxicon

[Arcon]

hehe

i thought they were a bit too obvious to have been missed but i wanted to check, it seems like the ipodnews.com "about" section is asking for people to email them though. if it was solely for the purpose of keeping the search engines out of the wrong bits, it would make more sense to keep that away from eyes as well.

since the email addy for robots has appeared twice, once hidden away and one right in plain view, it might be that the addy was too well hidden and people missed it the first time round so they hid it in under people's noses

I'd like to believe that anyway, puzzles are only fun when you can find some way to solve them and since solving requires interacting...

[lxicon]

morse code just changed, maybe a new image/audio incarnation soon.

2005-11-23 20:40:28 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : bears on a boat
audio : none
morse : YOUARETHEMAGNETANDIAMSTEEL
oject id : none
link : http://www.circusmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorix&Itemid=26&task=result&searchplugin=category&categorie=Dierendressuur&cp=1

* that morse was used before 2005-10-11


--edit--

LOST is on in a few minutes (YAY) i'll check back later.


and yeah i agree, puzzles can't be too hard that no one solves them. give the email a go if you have a question that you think they might answer....

--edit--
-here today, gone tomorrow-


have fun!
-lxicon

[Dennie_Hebels]

anything interesting for the pic used (first one on page 5)
http://www.circusmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorix&Itemid=26&task=result&searchplugin=category&categorie=Dierendressuur&cp=5
* what does it say when you click the shopping cart, just normal order stuff or does it have more info on the print?

Nope, nothing strange you can either print it, store it, view it or order it. This picture was printed by the printing-house Friedländer in 1898

[lxicon]

no worries, zuki i think ekl44fe was just reposting my post as reference. -not to imply that i (or ekl44fe) wanted people to call.

--

(on topic)
i was thinking about the incarnation of bss1 with the nigerian airways luggage bag with the hidden target over it. eko/adebisi (still can't stop thinking of eko as adebisi) is nigerian. there just may be something to "targeting" eko. could he have caused the oceanic 815 crash? or be in cahoots with the Others via the drug plane? he seems to have a bit of guilt about something. hmmm.

the bss1 incarnation:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-11-09_20.44.14/

the image with a greyscale palette to show the target:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.airline.bag.greyscale.palette.im ages.2.gif

also there was the corrupted version of that image with the ascii text "beware" inserted into the binary data:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.airline.bag.corrupted.images.2.g if


-also, i've heard that eko's club is going to be an important theme in coming episodes.



--additional (offtopic)--

the canadian preview for next week seemed to imply that the hatch counter will run out! looking forward to that next week!



-lxicon

[DykeZuki]

Let's see onthe 19th we were given DarkStoneLightStone in Morse Code, could that have eluded to Locke and Eko finally meeting?

We were also given crosshairs and then Shannon died.

These would be pretty good clues/hints except that just about anyone could read these in the spoiler section and we have yet to see if the Narvik Iron Mine thing comes to pass... I guess that more than anything would make me a true believer in BSS1.

Oh yeah BTW... HAPPY TURKEY DAY!!!

[Haloperidol]

Apollo invented HER and then SHE followed the Smart Dust..

Are you wondering?

[sing_4themoment]

bss1 now shows a site with link to the hanso foundation

[DykeZuki]

bss1 now shows a site with link to the hanso foundationWhere??? I still see a link to the Circus Art... but the Morse Code now says
"THREE LITTLE CHILDREN LAYIN IN THE BED TWO WERE SICK AND THE OTHER MOST DEAD SENT FOR THE DOCTOR THE DOCTOR SAID FEED THOSE CHILDREN ON SHORTNIN BREAD"

Apollo invented HER and then SHE followed the Smart Dust..... Are you wondering?What the heck are you on about???
I know the Apollo/SWAN reference, but what about her following SmartDust? Plague?
OR... Pythia/Delphi who inhaled the hallucinating vapors???
And why does this matter?

[fleetmaster]

This is a link to the song refrence:
http://www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Lyrics/1960/531960.html

*edit*

We've seen three children stolen by The Others...
(not including Rousseau's child)..

[lxicon]

ok a few changes tonight (didn't see the link the hanso, though do you have a copy of the html?)


2005-11-24 22:34:15 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : bears on a boat
audio : none
morse : THREELITTLECHILDRENLAYININTHEBED TWOWERESICKANDTHEOTHERMOSTDEAD SENTFORTHEDOCTORTHEDOCTORSAIDFEEDTHOSECHILDRENONSH ORTNINBREAD
oject id : none
link : http://www.circusmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorix&Itemid=26&task=result&searchplugin=category&categorie=Dierendressuur&cp=1


and THEN the image corrupted! the date of the corrupted file is "Nov 24 22:44" where the original was "Nov 22 15:27"

so, because the "beware" found in the last corrupted image i took a copy of each images and renamed them:
13.orig.gif.txt
and
13.corrupt.gif.txt

then i dropped them into my favorite text editor (TextPad v3.2.5 -the newer versions got all bloated with features and hogged memory *sigh*)
* notepad or wordpad will work also, i just like textpad.

start at the top of both pages and [ctrl]+[tab] back and forth and lok around the page for changes. (use [alt]+[tab] if you've got two instances running rather than one app with two files open)
** this is how astonomers find comets! they flip back and forth between exposers and the changes cause by fast moving comets pop out. the brain is wired for this kinda thing!

so back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, if no changes are seen, page down on both files and repeat until you see a change. pretty simple actually.

ok here goes (there IS a payoff btw) there are some special characters in here so i won't be able to edit this post for spelling mistakes... so bear with me if there are (pun intended)


-----------
line : 19
original: 8
corrupt : 2

-----------
line : 44
original: F5
corrupt : A1

-----------
line : 549
original: 9
corrupt : 1

-----------
line : 735
original: 6
corrupt : 4

-----------
line : 911
original: �
corrupt : D

-----------
line : 935 ** here's the one!
original: pf£Ö΂A Ÿ]D:·äŽ*boË
corrupt : pf£Ö΂A Ÿ]D:· -.-. .-.. --- ... . / -.-- --- ..- .-. / . -.-- . ... / / .. - ... / .-. .. --. .... - / -... . .... .. -. -.. / -.-- --- ..- / .-- .- -.- . / ..- .--. / / .. - ... / .- .-.. .-- .- -.-- ... / - .... . .-. . / .-. . ..-. .-.. . -.-. - .. -. --. / -.-- --- ..- .-. / .-.. .. . ... / .... .- ...- . / .- -. --- - .... . .-. / -.. .-. .. -. -.- / .- -. -.. / -.-. .- - -.-. .... / -. --- / ... .-.. . . .--. äŽ*boË

morse = CLOSE YOUR EYES ITS RIGHT BEHIND YOU WAKE UP ITS ALWAYS THERE REFLECTING YOUR LIES HAVE ANOTHER DRINK AND CATCH NO SLEEP
** google search found no exact matches

-----------
line : 945
original: „"Æ
corrupt : „"CRUELÆ




all CHANGED text together (minus the morse) :
"2 A1 1 4 D (morse) CRUEL"

-hmm not sure if that last bit is anything, but it was also worth a try, the morse seems to be the thing.

-lxicon

[lxicon]

and a few minutes after my post another incarnation! (...and i have work to do...)

2005-11-25 00:31:38 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : 4 hypodermic needles
audio : none
morse : THREELITTLECHILDRENLAYININTHEBED TWOWERESICKANDTHEOTHERMOSTDEAD SENTFORTHEDOCTORTHEDOCTORSAIDFEEDTHOSECHILDRENONSH ORTNINBREAD
oject id : none
link : http://francoib.chez-alice.fr/alfagrec/alf2kath.gif

--edit--

no data in the 14.gif but the link is to an image with a (russian?) word on it. i'm not sure how to put those characters in to a language translator site.. maybe i'll look for a list of russian characters that i can copy/paste from, but i have some things to do first. if anyone reads russian, please post what it says.

thanks

--edit--

the morse in the page title is from an old children's song (it has hand clapping steps to go along).. i forget the whole thing, but this is the start as i recall:

mama's little baby loves shortnin' shortnin'
mama's little baby loves shortnin' bread

mama's little baby loves shortnin' shortnin'
mama's little baby loves shortnin' bread

two little children, lying in bead
one was sick and the other was dead
called the doctor, the doctor said
FEED THOSE CHILDREN ON SHORTNIN' BREAD!

(repeat ad nausum until your parents tell you to go outside and play)


-lxicon

[lxicon]

html changed again, an image title was added to the <img> tag

title="katharos"

first google link on searching that word was :
http://www.katharos.fi/

hmm maybe a new narvik? i DO have to get some work done tonight (or maybe i'll take a drink and catch no sleep?) so i'll check back later.

have fun!


--edit--

uhm, sorry for the apparent triple post, but there was another post in the middle there but it's been deleted. technically it was only a double post for the second bss1 change (#1602 to #1603)

-lxicon

[DykeZuki]

title="katharos"...first google link on searching that word was: http://www.katharos.fi/
-lxicon

Funny that the 3rd Google Search for Katharos is:
"Katharos - Greek Lexicon -
The Greek Lexicon is based on Thayer's and Smith's Bible Dictionary plus others."

ACK!!! He's one of THEM!!! ;)

[lxicon]

heh, just finnished checking some other threads (instead of doing the work i'm supposed to be doing)

a couple ideas on TWP:
from Archaeologist:
http://francoib.chez-alice.fr/alfagrec/alf2kath.gif
It's a string of 7 Greek letters:
Kappa Alpha Theta Alpha Rho Sigma Zeta that translates roughly to Katharsz or...
Catharsis

from Max Criden
BigSpaceship1 has changed. It's now a picture of four syringes, and the title Katharos, which is Greek for "purified."


* noone else seems to have seen the corrupted image. did anyone here get a copy so you don't think i'm crazy?

[DykeZuki]

Apollo being the god of religious healing would give those guilty of murder and other immoral deeds a ritual purification. Sacred to Apollo are the swan (one legend says that Apollo flew on the back of a swan to the land of the Hyperboreans, he would spend the winter months among them), the wolf and the dolphin.
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/apollo.html

(Watching Sin City btw)

[kiko0]

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/9.gif
I didnt see anyone posting anything about this...How I found it was going into the source on the recent addy and finding out it was picture 14. I figured maybe that means the other pics are on too so I started putting 1 2 3 4 and so on in the adress and 5 and 6 were not there and 9 shows this...
Any thoughts? Sorry if it was posted I didnt see it..
sorry I also found this:
http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/12.gif

[AliCat]

Looks like BSS1 has updated with a baby names search for "katharos". If you click the syringes now, you will be taken to a result of the search...

[jmccreddie]

The link that the suringes take you to has now changed to a babynames site, "kathros" is up, pure, source from catherine or katherine. Hmmmm i wonder if this is to do with kate. Obviously sumthing to do with the up and coming episode, that is centered around kate.

[pimpinmidget]

this one in interesting too:

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/13.gif

[lxicon]

heehee, looks like AliCat and jmccreddie found the change at the exact same time! -"Holy coincidences batman!"

i hadn't put the "katharos" = "kate" thing together, but yeah with the new baby names hint, that seems to make a lot of sense.

so, in addition to a possible link to kate we have:

4 syringes : desmond's injections?

3 children, 2 sick, 1 dead: walt and the "tailie kids" ?

hmmm. plenty to think about!


--edit--

oh, pimpinmidget : the last 14 changes have used 1-14 .gif or .swf i have them in the archive and symlinked to /images/ so my archived html wont break:
http://lxicon.perception.net/images/

* there are also some .htaccess redirects if you try linking to a .swf or .jpg file from outside bss1 and other redirects for file not found errors and denied access directories. they went into effect last weekend.

-lxicon

[DykeZuki]

Apollo invented IT and then IT became HER and then SHE followed the Smart Dust..

Are you ready to wonder now?

Apollo's attributes include the bow and arrows, on his head a laurel crown, and the cithara (or lyre) and plectrum. But his most famous attribute is the tripod, the symbol of his prophetic powers.

I already mentioned the Oracle at Delphi and her inhailing Hallucinagenic Vapors(SMART DUST). My Answers Somewhat fits Your VAGUE CLUES, so unless you are ready to talk about WTF you are going on about; validate or non-validate my answers; tell us who you think you are giving clues about WHAT, we don't know; you can consider your self ignored.

This site is about FINDING ANSWERS! Not following more Clues by some random Poster who may or may not know WTF he/she is talking about!
Thanks but no thanks.

[kafka7723]

apollo invented boxing

"Boxing
In 688, boxing, a sport familiar from Patroclus' funeral games, was added. According to myth, Apollo invented it to kill Phorbas, a man who had been forcing travelers to Delphi through Phocis to fight him to the death.

The original equipment of boxing were oxhide straps called himantes wrapped around the hand. By the fourth century, gloves replaced himantes. Hitting the opponent's face proved the most effective technique."

[Haloperidol]

Epollo's ettributas includa tha bow end errows, on his haed e leural crown, end the cithere (or LYRA) end plactrum.

Apollo invented her...

Search for the Northern Lights and you will see how she followed the Smart Dust... It is not random...

Welcome to wonderland ;) Will you start wondering now?

[DykeZuki]

Apollo invented her...
Search for the Northern Lights and you will see how she followed the Smart Dust... It is not random...
Welcome to wonderland ;) Will you start wondering now?
I think I have found a better explaination.....
Haloperidol (ha-loe-PER-i-dole) is used to treat nervous, mental, and emotional conditions. It is also used to control the symptoms of Tourette's disorder. Haloperidol may also be used for other conditions as determined by your doctor. :D

[hmmm]

Apollo invented her...

Search for the Northern Lights and you will see how she followed the Smart Dust... It is not random...

Welcome to wonderland ;) Will you start wondering now?



Is it a small but bright northern constellation?

[scullygirl818]

corrupted images> were you talking about the polar bears on the ship? it's corrupted now.

[lxicon]

corrupted images> were you talking about the polar bears on the ship? it's corrupted now.

i haven't seen it corrupted. did you save a copy?

all three chnages to the html that used 14.gif have used the same 14.gif (modified "Nov 24 23:52" md5sum : a6847b53b62792ab6d575d27e7a9e1c7) and thats still the same file i'm getting now.

if you did save it, i'd like to see it. have you been able to find any text in the image?


--edit--

on and Haloperidol i don't really care for your "Welcome to wonderland" it seems off topic for this thread. you could probably post those comments in any thread in this forum and they'd make the same amount of sense. so i'll just think about http://thisiswonderland.com/ because it's a much better show. (better than Haloperidol, not better than LOST)

cheers!

-lxicon

[scullygirl818]

Here is the address, it looks corrupted, but also it won't open in photoshop. If the link is fixed by then (considering the site owner seems to read here, let me know and I will upload it.
http://bigspaceship1.com/images/13.gif

[lxicon]

Here is the address, it looks corrupted, but also it won't open in photoshop. If the link is fixed by then (considering the site owner seems to read here, let me know and I will upload it.
http://bigspaceship1.com/images/13.gif


oh, right. i thought you meant http://bigspaceship1.com/images/14.gif (my mistake)

the corrupted 13.gif is really creepy!
http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?p=653345#post653345


-lxicon

[safe from harm]

could somebody summerize alllllll those pages above ? at leat what the hell is it ? and now the link sends us to a page where you can know about deep meanings of names.isnt hard to guess who is it.yup.kate...

[DykeZuki]

Is BSS1 Down or is it just me?

[Sakka]

I can't get it either! :(

[DykeZuki]

It's back up again! Same as before though... Nothing New...?

[LOST_the_plot]

Update: New morse code:

- .... .-. . . .-.. .. - - .-.. . -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. .-. . -. .-.. .- -.-- .. -. .. -. - .... . -... . -.. / - .-- --- .-- . .-. . ... .. -.-. -.- .- -. -.. - .... . --- - .... . .-. -- --- ... - -.. . .- -.. / ... . -. - ..-. --- .-. - .... . -.. --- -.-. - --- .-. - .... . -.. --- -.-. - --- .-. ... .- .. -.. ..-. . . -.. - .... --- ... . -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. .-. . -. --- -. ... .... --- .-. - -. .. -. -... .-. . .- -..

translates to:
THREELITTLECHILDRENLAYININTHEBED TWOWERESICKANDTHEOTHERMOSTDEAD SENTFORTHEDOCTORTHEDOCTORSAIDFEEDTHOSECHILDRENONSH ORTNINBREAD

THREE LITTLE CHILDREN LAYIN IN THE BED TWO WERE SICK AND THE OTHER MOST DEAD SENT FOR THE DOCTOR THE DOCTOR SAID FEED THOSE CHILDREN ON SHORTNIN BREAD

Strange...

[Sitelux]

Hehe... That's true... Polar bears live on Svalbard, not in Norway or Sweden as many think... Northern Light come from the earth magnetic field. Maybe the magnetic field on the Island (The Swan) is powerfull enough to create something simular?

[AliCat]

Hey, it just occurs to me... what if the morse code "children" rhyme doesn't have to do with the kids the Others took at all? If you think about it, Sawyer could be considered "'most dead"; maybe the "sick" ones are Ana Lucia and Sayid? They're the ones who claim to be dead...

Dunno, it was just a thought.

[DykeZuki]

Update: New morse code: THREE LITTLE CHILDREN LAYIN IN THE BED TWO WERE SICK AND THE OTHER MOST DEAD SENT FOR THE DOCTOR THE DOCTOR SAID FEED THOSE CHILDREN ON SHORTNIN BREAD
Strange...
Yeah if you read Waaaaaaaaaay back to TWO PAGES AGO (107) you can see where I posted that! People this thread is over 1600 long please don't add to it with your stupidity.

[shred]

Helpful hint: at the top of the thread (just under the page pages) there is a button for "Search this thread." You can double check to see if anyone has posted the latest in the bss1 adventure. This thread is practically a forum in itself, and you really do need to search.

[bigassfan]

It is not random...

In the name of science, The Children were being taken - does this interest you? Does it sound familiar?

SEARCH for the "Northern Lights" and remember that not all compasses point North - some compasses point THE SMART DUST ... and some are made of gold!

You keep referencing to The Dark Materials...which is parallel universes based on the alternative outcome, example flip a coin, you get heads, in the alternate universe you get tails.

Anyways...I hope Lost doesn't go into that direction...I'd like the reasoning to be corporate/science geeks studying them or a divine intervention rather than an Alternate Universe...the other two seem more believable...even when they are both sort of preposterious.

[hmmm]

You keep referencing to The Dark Materials...which is parallel universes based on the alternative outcome, example flip a coin, you get heads, in the alternate universe you get tails.

Anyways...I hope Lost doesn't go into that direction...I'd like the reasoning to be corporate/science geeks studying them or a divine intervention rather than an Alternate Universe...the other two seem more believable...even when they are both sort of preposterious.

His Dark Materials is a trilogy (fantasy) by a guy named Pullman, he refers to the name Lyra, which is also a constellation, which is what I believe Hal is referring to. Cygna=swan, Lyra=lyre, etc.

[soumya86]

Here's a list of media i found from the site:

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/1.gif

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/2.gif

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/3.gif

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/4.gif

http://www.shimadzu.co.jp/products/t...o/movie/05.mpg

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/7.gif

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/8.gif

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/9.gif

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/12.gif

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/13.gif

http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/14.gif

[hudd]

Just to refresh memory; bss1 surfaced when someone tried a secure server connection to the official canon site Hanso Foundation. The link was just printed on the page. The discussion is; since the site was hinted on an official ABC web page, it can be a somewhat official site itself, or some webmaster trying to give us hints. But some say that since there are no ABC legal articles (they are well placed on official sites) not to take bss1 seriously.

@zuki: Chill dude.. You look tense.. Or.. Can he be the? Confess! Don't make me call Sayid! :D

[DykeZuki]

Just to refresh memory; bss1 surfaced when someone tried a secure server connection to the official canon site Hanso Foundation.:) You are correct and by us nosing around where we shouldn't be, ABC or the writers don't need privacy statements or anything, because They never said it was an official site or led us to believe it was official. We just followed the bread crumbs of our own accord and we have the Choice as to whether to believe in it or not. As Locke puts it, it's a matter of Faith.
I'd say it is Officially Un-Official???

That's what I think anyways

[zapp645]

wow, this still hasnt really gone anywhere. i was hoping my long absence would yield drastic changes. oh well. im still a believer.

also, i hope this wasnt already mentioned, but this startled me:
http://lot23.com/
Its a site started by a guy named Jon Bell. Notice that the background and format is very similar to our current bss1 image. Also, if thats not enough, compare this:
http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/9.gif
from bss1 to this:
http://www.lot23.com/components/images/branding/logoBoxBlue.gif
the logo on jon's site. If its been covered, im so so sorry, but if not, then... yeah... there it is.

[dont]

wow, this still hasnt really gone anywhere. i was hoping my long absence would yield drastic changes. oh well. im still a believer.

also, i hope this wasnt already mentioned, but this startled me:
http://lot23.com/
Its a site started by a guy named Jon Bell. Notice that the background and format is very similar to our current bss1 image. Also, if thats not enough, compare this:
http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/9.gif
from bss1 to this:
http://www.lot23.com/components/images/branding/logoBoxBlue.gif
the logo on jon's site. If its been covered, im so so sorry, but if not, then... yeah... there it is.

good catch. I didn't see it before. the stile does look suspiciously similar
and there is an obvious 'connection' to lost
http://connected.lot23.com/

however, the "23" isn't the source of the GIF, the curls are different.

[jmccreddie]

wow, this still hasnt really gone anywhere. i was hoping my long absence would yield drastic changes. oh well. im still a believer.

also, i hope this wasnt already mentioned, but this startled me:
http://lot23.com/
Its a site started by a guy named Jon Bell. Notice that the background and format is very similar to our current bss1 image. Also, if thats not enough, compare this:
http://www.bigspaceship1.com//images/9.gif
from bss1 to this:
http://www.lot23.com/components/images/branding/logoBoxBlue.gif
the logo on jon's site. If its been covered, im so so sorry, but if not, then... yeah... there it is.
I see it, plus i saw he dabbles in degree of seperation, a theme many have touched upon in these forums. And i notice he uses reference to something called RSS not too sure wat it is but sounds liek bss wow lol. plus its kinda in the show. I recon God makes bss1 on sundays, cos he got bored with resting.

[Haloperidol]

His Dark Materials is a trilogy (fantasy) by a guy named Pullman, he refers to the name Lyra, which is also a constellation, which is what I believe Hal is referring to. Cygna=swan, Lyra=lyre, etc.

:) Someone started wondering at last... Do not stop now...

What about the Dust - or was it www.smartdust.com ?

Is the wondering-process revealing connections? ;)

[AliCat]

Well, this might certainly explain how Locke can walk: http://chem-faculty.ucsd.edu/sailor/research/smartdust.html . This explains how the "smart dust" works in cleanup situations; apparently, they are attempting to broaden the use for cancer, etc. Interesting, Hal, but there's no need to be cryptic. Just come out and say something, please.

[rxse7en]

smartdust + electromagnetism + remote viewing = :D

[Haloperidol]

Does it think? Does it have a consciousness? Is that why it is called SMART Dust?

In Bolvangar they had a station, where they kept the children. They wanted the children because the Dust was stronger around them. Does any of this interest you? Does it sound familiar?

(There is no need to be cryptic, but would it be fun if all the answers were given at once?)

[rxse7en]

http://www.london-beauty.com/materials/Images/main.gif :D Alternate realities and multiverses, hmmm.

IMHO, I think the smartdust on our Island--like everything else supposedly--is based on science fact:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartdust

[mcgrad]

(There is no need to be cryptic, but would it be fun if all the answers were given at once?)


It might not be "fun", but at least we'd know what the heck you are talking about-- the BSS1 people are screwing with us enough-- if you have something to add, great, but don't just try to get everyone talking by being cryptic. :rant: ;)

[Haloperidol]

I don't want to ruin the thrill of discovery for you :(

I am doing this for your own good :D

Notice the animal between Lyra and the Polar Bear in the above image. Familiar?

The Dust connection is much more interesting when you know what the Pullman Dust is.. What it truly represents..

If you research, you will know and then you might understand why the children were being taken.. The truth lies in the Dust..

Funny words - the truth lies - kind of ironic ;)

[dasbiatch]

i hope this isnt a dark/anti matter kinda thing/theory

also the whole thing i THINK you're refering to is sort of the grey matter theory where nano bots rely on a source of liveing tissue to grow and/or make more of them selves (replicate)

and how do u know what ur going on about is true, not just a theory, are YOU the creator of bss1?

[lxicon]

2005-11-30 19:55:34 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
pic : 3-d gas mask
audio : (error loop) Magnet and Steel by Walter Egan appears on Walter Egan's Not Shy (1978)
morse : LETSCATCHFISHALLDAYTHENTHROWTHEMAWAY
oject id : thepureawait


* rehashed 5.swf but the morse and object id are new.

--edit--


they added a link : http://catoms.com at 20:29:59 EST
at the time of this edit, the link just redirects to ipodnews.


--edit--


also, for a LOST day present, here's something i've been working on:
http://emri.perception.net/ (requires audio)
* let me know if you have problems by private message.


--edit


and a new change, gotta go LOST is on in a sec!

2005-11-30 20:55:53 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
pic : dark and light plastic soldiers
audio : none
morse : LETSCATCHFISHALLDAYTHENTHROWTHEMAWAY
oject id : none
link : http://catoms.com


-lxicon

[Lost Mirage]

Ok, so catoms are these tiny robots created with nanotechnology to create 3d's of people so their images can get sent to other places: http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=632012005 Basically nano clay that people will be able to carry around and turn into anything.

Atleast that's what I got:D

[mcgrad]

I don't want to ruin the thrill of discovery for you :(

I am doing this for your own good :D

Notice the animal between Lyra and the Polar Bear in the above image. Familiar?

The Dust connection is much more interesting when you know what the Pullman Dust is.. What it truly represents..

If you research, you will know and then you might understand why the children were being taken.. The truth lies in the Dust..

Funny words - the truth lies - kind of ironic ;)


Alright, I have it ALL figured out... you're Pullman's literary agent and you're trying to get more people to read his books.:p Yeah, yeah, the dust is God. We get it. Now WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH LOST or BSS1??? :confused:

[DykeZuki]

2005-11-30 19:55:34 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
pic : 3-d gas mask
audio : (error loop) Magnet and Steel by Walter Egan appears on Walter Egan's Not Shy (1978)
morse : LETSCATCHFISHALLDAYTHENTHROWTHEMAWAY
oject id : thepureawait


* rehashed 5.swf but the morse and object id are new.

--edit--


they added a link : http://catoms.com at 20:29:59 EST
at the time of this edit, the link just redirects to ipodnews.


--edit--


also, for a LOST day present, here's something i've been working on:
http://emri.perception.net/ (requires audio)
* let me know if you have problems by private message.


--edit


and a new change, gotta go LOST is on in a sec!

2005-11-30 20:55:53 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
pic : dark and light plastic soldiers
audio : none
morse : LETSCATCHFISHALLDAYTHENTHROWTHEMAWAY
oject id : none
link : http://catoms.com


-lxicon
Lex you missed the Morse Code hidden in the Image.
But it only says, "DARK STONE LIGST STONE".
Wait... what the Heck is a Ligst Stone????

[lxicon]

Alright, I have it ALL figured out... you're Pullman's literary agent and you're trying to get more people to read his books.:p Yeah, yeah, the dust is God. We get it.
<= somebody give this man a prize! i think you may be right.


Ok, so catoms are these tiny robots created with nanotechnology to create 3d's of people so their images can get sent to other places: http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=632012005 Basically nano clay that people will be able to carry around and turn into anything.

or Carbon ATOMS? (just a thought)


--edit--

zuki! i can't believe i missed that! it was right before lost when it changed and i rushed the post. d'Oh!

but i think you may have mistook a dash for 2 dots in there or something. i got:
-.. .- .-. -.- ... - --- -. . .-.. .. --. .... - ... - --- -. .
DARKSTONELIGHTSTONE

* i've had a bit of practice doing that exact thing in the last weeks.


-lxicon

[cubunit]

now it is 2 army men but no link and no audio. What is the morse?

[DykeZuki]

but i think you may have mistook a dash for 2 dots in there or something. i got:
-.. .- .-. -.- ... - --- -. . .-.. .. --. .... - ... - --- -. .
DARKSTONELIGHTSTONE

* i've had a bit of practice doing that exact thing in the last weeks.
-lxicon
I typed it out twice and got the same thing both times... maybe I am not good at morse or he changed it? Lemme go look.

(edit) Nope I think he F'ed it up before, cuz now I got DARKSTONELIGHTSTONE as well!
Must have edited it after I posted.

[nvs78]

hmm
i just checked it..
its 733pm australia est,

morse now reads LETSCATCHFISHALLDAYTHENTHROWTHEMAWAY

still the same pic tho, the army dudes..

[Happy78Face]

I have been a silent entity on this board for awhile... I promise I have been keeping up so no repeats! Anyway... When I go to www.catoms.com it takes me to the bss1 site now... wondered if anyone else was getting that?

[Emeline]

Yeah I have the same thing here!

[sing_4themoment]

Yup me too, my birthday today =) Dec 1st.

oh, yes one black soldier and one white, black vs. white...hmm...

[thegimboid]

try to get into http://bigspaceship1.com/images/

a thing pops up and auto-downloads "The Safety Dance".

If you want to actually SEE the images, then put in http://bigspaceship1.com/images/8.gif and switch between the photos manually by changing the number in the url.

[lxicon]

Yup me too, my birthday today =) Dec 1st.
oh, yes one black soldier and one white, black vs. white...hmm...


happy bday sing_4themoment!!

--
the dark/light thing might be a refernce to the impending conflict between locke's religion and eko's they are both men of faith but their faiths differ.


-- START TECH STUFF --


the link : http://catoms.com link may hint rather than a webiste:

Domain Name.......... catoms.com
Creation Date........ 2005-06-10
Registration Date.... 2005-06-10
Expiry Date.......... 2006-06-10
Organisation Name.... Matthew Bardram
Organisation Address. 2411 E 2nd St
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Tucson
Organisation Address. 85719
Organisation Address. AZ
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

which is the same as:

Domain Name.......... bigspaceship1.com
Creation Date........ 2005-10-07
Registration Date.... 2005-10-07
Expiry Date.......... 2006-10-07
Organisation Name.... Matthew Bardram
Organisation Address. P O Box 99800
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. EmeryVille
Organisation Address. 94662
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. US


apparently catoms.com was created before bss1? and a diff address hmmm.


also, http://catoms.com/ is at 68.142.234.44 and http://bigspaceship1.com is at 64.207.186.80 and they give different http headers:

Trying catoms.com...
Connection established.

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 23:58:26 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat)
Accept-Ranges: bytes
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.4.1
Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=99
Connection: Keep-Alive
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
X-Pad: avoid browser bug

<HTML>................

and

Trying http://bigspaceship1.com...
Connection established.

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 23:58:47 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat)
Accept-Ranges: bytes
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.4.1
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

<HTML>................


-followers of the bss1 threads will remeber that Matthew Bardram is a font designer most well known for atomicmedia.net which he also has registered.
Matthew Bardram
2411 E 2ND ST
Tucson, AZ 85719
US

Domain Name: ATOMICMEDIA.NET

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
BARDRAM, MATTHEW
2411 E 2ND ST
TUCSON, AZ 85719
US
###-###-#### fax: 123 123 1234

Record expires on 11-May-2014.
Record created on 10-May-1997.

* i took out the phone number, no need to get him on telemarketers lists or anything.


--END TECH STUFF --


so, what the hell does this mean?

- it means that catoms.com is a mirror of bss1 (or vice versa?) they have the same files to display. they are two similar but different servers.

-they were both registered to Matthew Bardram but with different addresses. could Matthew Bardram be the project director and he just told his underlings to register this or that domain for him and they put in their own addresses because he didn't specify which address to use when he made the request? (i've done that for clients who "just want it done")


*** many people have tried contacting mr. Bardram, i wouldn't bother, noone has reported that he replied to any questions about bss1. there's no need to bug him. i just mention his name because of the domain registration data.

also, remeber that the person who registers a domain is not always the same person who works on it. in most companies, the domans are registered to the company owner. the techies/designers who do the work don't usually get listed.



well, that's quite a bit to chew on!

good luck!


--edit--


If you want to actually SEE the images, then put in http://bigspaceship1.com/images/8.gif and switch between the photos manually by changing the number in the url.
that works for the .gif images but some of the http redirects are specifically set for .swf and .jpg. if you try to go to one of those types of files, you get a redirect to the digicam sample movie of the ballon breaking.

* oh, i just checked and the .swf files are good now:
http://bigspaceship1.com/images/5.swf
http://bigspaceship1.com/images/10.swf
http://bigspaceship1.com/images/11.swf
* the rest are .gif

http://bigspaceship1.com/images/1.jpg still gives the balloon movie though.


-lxicon

[Amob]

How about that black vs white thing referring to backgammon? Remember Locke teaching Walt how to play the game.

Not too familiar with CSS, but the source of the page defines colour for img, obj, embed to be #FFF. Were is the other half of it?
FFF translated to numbers is 666, but that is just too obvious.

[J-Foundation]

http://catoms.com ..... this new link is a clue, as it only links back to the same page.......

and........ a mirror url for BSS1 is www.smartdust.com




Smart Dust and "catoms" :


Claytronics

If you thought the shape-shifting baddies from the Terminator movies only exist in movies, then think again. Scientists from the US are currently developing a new technology called ‘Claytronics’. They are working on a new particle-type material, which is made of tiny self-organising robots called ‘claytronic atoms’ or ‘catoms’. Catoms can stick to each other and communicate with built-in wireless technology. The goal is to create a shape-shifting material which can replicate an object of any shape instantly - anything from a knife, to a bowl, to a human. They currently have catoms the size of tennis balls which can replicate objects, but using advanced nanotechnology, they hope to reduce each catom to the size of a dust particle which will mean claytronics will be able to replicate objects with a higher definition.

source link (http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:dZCQ-2D03_MJ:smartmoves.questacon.edu.au/teachers/topics/nanotechnology.asp+smart+dust+catoms&hl=en)




this would go some way to explaining the "security monster", and the black swarms that are flying about....


verrrrrrrrrryy interesting, eh?

not only that, but this has other implications, such as the appearance of "ghosts" and things in the jungle - Jack's dad, Backwards Wet Walt, A big black horse, etc.


ah, i love it when a theory comes together :cool:



if someone has posted the same thing before, please forgive me. it's my birthday and i can't be arsed searching for the same thing. you guys are no fun, working shit out before i do

[lxicon]

Not too familiar with CSS, but the source of the page defines colour for img, obj, embed to be #FFF. Were is the other half of it?
FFF translated to numbers is 666, but that is just too obvious.


the css validated. i guess with only one char hex triplets it assumes its double. eg FFF = FFFFFF or 999 = 999999. i'd have to play with it to see what colours you get when you try 3 character hex triplets.

fff is actualy 15,15,15 (or 4095 if you read it as a single number) not 666 though :(

* for those who are saying wtf?! you set the colours on the web in RGB mode. the values of each of the three colour channels go from 0-255 but it only takes 2 characters instead of 3 to do 000-255 in hexadecimal format 0=0 , 9=9, A=10, F=15, 10=16, 1A=26, 1F=31
and if you are lazy (like me) then you can just go from

00=000
11=017
22=034
33=051
44=068
55=085
66=102
77=119
88=136
99=153
aa=170
bb=187
cc=204
dd=221
ee=238
ff=255

and with the numbers representing red, green and blue, you can go from 0's on all three for black (#000000) or 255's on all three for white (#ffffff)
- just red (#ff0000), just green (#00ff00) or just blue (#0000ff)

with 255 steps from none to full on each colour channel that gives 16,581,375 different colours to choose from (you may remeber the "16 million colors" setting for your monitor)


so, basically i think the "border: 1px dotted #FFF;" is just a white dotted border 1 pixel wide. with #FFF being a short form for #FFFFFF and the browsers seem to display it correctly.


--edit--


this would go some way to explaining the "security monster", and the black swarms that are flying about....
verrrrrrrrrryy interesting, eh?

i remeber reading a cyber punk novel -Neal Stephenson, The Diamond Age: in a chapter intro, he described a nanotech future where terrorist attacks were done by releasing swarms of offensive nano bots to float in the prevailing winds towards a city. the city would launch counter nano bots to seek & destroy the invading ones.

the general populace was unaware of the battle going on high above them in the atmosphere except that the destroyed nano bots would rain down on the city in a fine power. the citizens were given warnings of the amount of dead nanites in the air like a smog ratings and they called them "toner wars". it's such a cool idea that i still remember it 10 years later.

-kinda off topic, but it does mesh with the nano bot / monster theories.


* oh one other thing about nano bots. it's generally believed that molecules of 60 carbon atoms (C-60) which form little spheres would be an ideal way to make usefull physical objects on a nano scale. the geodesic dome type configuration of carbon atoms is remeniscent of the geodesic dome in the hatch's computer area and are named after the buckminster fuller who invented the geodesic dome. the C-60 molecules are also called "bucky balls". -which is also fun to say!


--

well that concludes an other night that went WAY later than it should have. but i do have something to show for all my lost sleep: i added windows media support to my network bridge to the hatch LAN ( http://emri.perception.net ). it's wierd, the real player and quicktime embeds stop secondary instances of audio when a new audio starts playing, but windows media can play multiple streams at once. i'm not sure if this will break the project's functionality, so i'm asking for some beta testers before i'm ready for a wider release.


-lxicon

[Happy78Face]

Ok I get wrap around the Nanobots becoming possibly Walt, the horse, the black smoke, the polar bears etc... BUT what about the shark??? How does that work for under water??? My guess is if it replicates Walt the water IS the Nanobots, but to be the shark in actual water, are the waterproof???

[DykeZuki]

Ok I get wrap around the Nanobots becoming possibly Walt, the horse, the black smoke, the polar bears etc... BUT what about the shark??? How does that work for under water??? My guess is if it replicates Walt the water IS the Nanobots, but to be the shark in actual water, are the waterproof???
In the Future, NanoBots could be so small that they are unaffected by water molecules or any molecules for that matter.

[Happy78Face]

In the Future, NanoBots could be so small that they are unaffected by water molecules or any molecules for that matter.
Good Point! I wonder why Walt's Audio would be backwards? Weird... I also ponder if the Nano's are the direct reason for the 'illness' or the 'incident'. And the huge 'creature' that ripped the pilot out of the plane in the first season, and the incredible force that moved the trees like a huge invisable Dinosaur could be the nano's. Of course that forces me to think quite possibly that the entire jungle trees and all, could be nano's, and that the black and white 'stones' could actually be the large prototypes... Just some food for thought. Appreciate any input :)

[GuineaPig]

I was wondering about the whole talking backwards thing and I thought that maybe it's related to the Accelerated Remote Viewing project. The concept of Remote Viewing basically is based on the idea of "psychic spies". What if the Others/Dharma has Walt and are studying his abilities from that facility? Furthermore, and this goes into the realm of total hypothesis, what if communication via this method is only one way and it's like looking in a mirror... the image/audio appears clear and true but it is reversed?

[Happy78Face]

I was wondering about the whole talking backwards thing and I thought that maybe it's related to the Accelerated Remote Viewing project. The concept of Remote Viewing basically is based on the idea of "psychic spies". What if the Others/Dharma has Walt and are studying his abilities from that facility? Furthermore, and this goes into the realm of total hypothesis, what if communication via this method is only one way and it's like looking in a mirror... the image/audio appears clear and true but it is reversed?
Nice... good point!
BTW... Just checked Bss1... Still the same :)

[DykeZuki]

Mr.Clucks website has changed again. And when I screencapped the image and at the bottom it said something like Dowloading from BigSpaceShip1.com. I am very sure the same guy that is doing BSS1 is doing MR.Clucks too. Has this ever beed WhoISed Lex?

[lxicon]

Mr.Clucks website has changed again. And when I screencapped the image and at the bottom it said something like Dowloading from BigSpaceShip1.com. I am very sure the same guy that is doing BSS1 is doing MR.Clucks too. Has this ever beed WhoISed Lex?


Registrant:
Dr. Marvin Candle
345 Wilson Ave
Burbank, CA 90210
US
206-203-0928


Domain Name: MRCLUCKS.COM

Administrative Contact:
Candle, Marvin drcandle@gmail.com
345 Wilson Ave
Burbank, CA 90210
US
206-203-0928

Technical Contact:
Candle, Marvin drcandle@gmail.com
345 Wilson Ave
Burbank, CA 90210
US
206-203-0928


there is one counter image on mrclucks:
http://www.typepad.com/t/stats?blog_id=243011&page=http%3A//mrclucks.com/&referrer=
the blog_id=243011 should be the identifier for who runs the blog.


i guess you could email him?
-lxicon

[ekl44fe]

Ok I get wrap around the Nanobots becoming possibly Walt, the horse, the black smoke, the polar bears etc... BUT what about the shark??? How does that work for under water??? My guess is if it replicates Walt the water IS the Nanobots, but to be the shark in actual water, are the waterproof???

Does it matter that none of those things have the dharma symbol on them except the shark? (Not that they don't but I havn't heard otherwise)

I don't know my point but I think the shark is the odd man out on that list. Remember there is a zoology experiment going on. I think that is where the animals are coming from and the shark is just a trained Dharma security system. I don't know about poor Walt though

[kiko0]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/chronic_kiko/Nit_BF_shark2.jpg
k im gonna bring this page back up to the top lol
I was just scanning through my pics and found this (mind u I remember saving this pic like 3 years ago) It just looks very similar to lost... and also that red planet next to the moon looks a lot like that bss1 picture with the mouse...

I dunno I got freaked out for a sec what do u guys think??

[Happy78Face]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/chronic_kiko/Nit_BF_shark2.jpg
k im gonna bring this page back up to the top lol
I was just scanning through my pics and found this (mind u I remember saving this pic like 3 years ago) It just looks very similar to lost... and also that red planet next to the moon looks a lot like that bss1 picture with the mouse...

I dunno I got freaked out for a sec what do u guys think??
WOW I can definitly see where you are coming from!!! Nice :) (I am seriously not liking this wait for a new lost epi!!! Drivin' me crazy!!!) :)

[Hit_theroad_Jak]

www.dharmarose.com

Probably irrelevant but seems a bit coincidental what with all the sharks etc...

[lxicon]

www.dharmarose.com

Probably irrelevant but seems a bit coincidental what with all the sharks etc...


hmmm... looks like it predates the show:

(from the source code)
<meta name="Copyright" content="2004 copyright">

and from whois:
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: DHARMAROSE.COM
Created on: 03-Feb-00
Expires on: 03-Feb-07
Last Updated on: 11-Oct-04

[cubunit]

are there no things hidden in the army guys picture?

[lxicon]

are there no things hidden in the army guys picture?

i checked the palettes, nothing there. and even tried gifshuffle with a number of passwords. there's just the morse in the image itself as far as i can tell.

i also checked for palin text in the image, but there was nothing there and the image tends to get corrupted if plain text is added to the binary data.


2005-11-30 20:55:53 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : dark and light plastic soldiers (morse in image -.. .- .-. -.- ... - --- -. . .-. = DARKSTONER)
audio : none
morse : LETSCATCHFISHALLDAYTHENTHROWTHEMAWAY
oject id : none
link : http://catoms.com


-lxicon

[DykeZuki]

DARK STONER? ROFL!!!:rotflol:

[lxicon]

DARK STONER? ROFL!!!:rotflol:
whoa! OOPS! i trusted my copy/paste and must have lost focus on the window when typing the dots and dashes. heehee!

pic : dark and light plastic soldiers (morse in image -.. .- .-. -.- ... - --- -. . .-.. .. --. .... - ... - --- -. . = DARKSTONELIGHTSTONE)

* serves me for posting at almost 3:00 am

[Happy78Face]

Ok I just had a wicked thought... Make a spinoff show from lost... at least you think it is a spinoff... when in actuallity it is the story of the Others.... Once this is 'revealed' to the audience... Mega cross over events... In other words 2 hr Episodes !!! Ok I was just thinking outloud sorry ... continue :)

[Lost Mirage]

Hey lxicon,

I see you've been busy. :D Nice job!

[lxicon]

Hey lxicon,
I see you've been busy. :D Nice job!

thanks. there are some issues with various os/browser/plugin combinations but i don't have those combinations to test on.

part of the code that disables dr. candle's keyboard lock also seemed to isolate the responses of the COMPUTER on a session by session basis. the actions taken don't seem to affect the hatch. i've tried purposefully letting the counter run out, and it was back when i reloaded. so at least i don't have to worry about ending the world!

it is kinda neat to leave it on and see what desmond must have gone through.

i'm a little troubled though. there seems to be too many network connections coming out than going in. i have to poke around some more to try to figure out some of the odd behaviour.

if i work out some better code for the people who can't view it, i'll add it to the module on the hanso networks and update the version number (currently LXTP1.4) the code is static. it won't change without a version change.


good luck!
-lxicon

[fleetmaster]

There's a feeling around here that we won't see another change untill just before the next new episode..

also random (OR IS IT!!??!!) news: Walt (Malcom David Kelly) in a tv movie about chess:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0471768/

Chess -> Chesapeake Bay -> Michael Bay -> The Island -> LOST!

A little Colbert for ya.....:no:

[Lost Mirage]

thanks. there are some issues with various os/browser/plugin combinations but i don't have those combinations to test on.

part of the code that disables dr. candle's keyboard lock also seemed to isolate the responses of the COMPUTER on a session by session basis. the actions taken don't seem to affect the hatch. i've tried purposefully letting the counter run out, and it was back when i reloaded. so at least i don't have to worry about ending the world!

it is kinda neat to leave it on and see what desmond must have gone through.

i'm a little troubled though. there seems to be too many network connections coming out than going in. i have to poke around some more to try to figure out some of the odd behaviour.

if i work out some better code for the people who can't view it, i'll add it to the module on the hanso networks and update the version number (currently LXTP1.4) the code is static. it won't change without a version change.


good luck!
-lxicon

*grin* Well I've been getting near obsessed with this whole King Cross thing, so I've been lurking the TWOP forums about it. So I saw something about a "Lost Computer", and I'd figured that I'd check it out later....then I saw your name. :D

I've looked at it briefly, just to see if it would even happen on my PC, (notorious for seemingly normal things not working)....

*sigh* I'm holding myself back from begging all the keywords that do something from you.:D (I have no patience.)

[mcgrad]

Lexicon--
I have been having SOOOO much fun with your simulator!:banana: The best part was when I asked it how long it had been there and it replied, "we're talking about you here, not me!":rotflol: Thanks for giving me something to do while I wait for January (or some real answers from BSS1)! If you get a chance, maybe you could explain how the computer chooses what responses to give. Are they specific to the question, or are they random? I ask because I have gotten different answers to the same question. Of course, I COMPLETELY understand if you don't want to spoil the fun-- I know I have said it before, but it's worth repeating... you ROCK!!!!:D

Changed my mind... the funniest thing is when I told the computer it was sexy, and it responded, "Does it please you to think I am sexy?" HILARIOUS!!!!!!! :rotflol:

[lxicon]

If you get a chance, maybe you could explain how the computer chooses what responses to give. Are they specific to the question, or are they random? I ask because I have gotten different answers to the same question.

hmm. when i implemented the network bridge to the LAN of the hatch, i found a dozen or more commands that do stuff. those commands can be found, especially if you found some of the bss1 hidden messages.

i did notice some remnants of what was probably a user friendly "agent" interface. it didn't seem very sophisticated. maybe that's what you saw?

i'll try the inputs you mentioned see if i can turn anything up.


-lxicon

[shred]

Behold, kids: BSS1 is stickied. Someone want to write a brief summay and history of this thread for all the newbies who will be poppping in?

[mcgrad]

HOORAY MODS!!!!!! :D Thanks for doing such a fantastic job! This move is soooo great!
I would love to do the summary/history, but I am afraid I don't know all the technical lingo and information. I nominate either Lxicon or DykeZuki--('cause I am SURE they both have nothing better to do-- hee hee!);) Seriously, they both have the technical knowledge and have probably contributed more than anyone else to all of this (no offense to anyone, BTW). They have also been in on this from the VERY beginning. Sorry to single the two of you out... but I give you props for all the stuff you've shared with us!:)

[nvs78]

it takes 100 pages before somethings stickied?
;)

lol
hard to believe it was so many pages ago that i came across a thread titled bigspaceship1.com and popped in.. and found many an interesting thing happening, credit to the makers or bss1, and also to lxicon for his keeping track of absolutely everything thats happening with it.. (his(?) backing up of everything is nifty)

[shred]

I just love our cute little OSM forum. One benefit will be that we won't have so many complainers complaining about bss1. You have to look for it now!

[lxicon]

I just love our cute little OSM forum. One benefit will be that we won't have so many complainers complaining about bss1. You have to look for it now!

this is pretty cool! i have the threads about bss1 on various forums bookmarked and check in periodically. but this thread was moved rather than restarted. my bookmarks work and i only just noticed the different crumb trail indicating where the thread resides. nice work!

nothing new on bss1 since:

2005-11-30 20:55:53 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
pic : dark and light plastic soldiers (morse in image -.. .- .-. -.- ... - --- -. . .-.. .. --. .... - ... - --- -. . = DARKSTONELIGHTSTONE)
audio : none
morse : LETSCATCHFISHALLDAYTHENTHROWTHEMAWAY
oject id : none
link : http://catoms.com


i'm not too concerned. there was a bare spell from 2005-10-24_17.03.56 to 2005-11-03_11.13.32 and then nothing again until 2005-11-08_23.01.00 so this interruption in the fun is not unprecendented.

as for an intro. i think i might pass. i'm a bit busy these last few weeks and i've been trying to catch up on the real work i've been neglecting (i shouldn't even be awake right now with work in the morning.

-if noone else jumps at the chance, i'll see what i can whip up, but let's see if anyone else wants to have a crack at it first.

have fun!
-lxicon.

[chaz]

cruz610
Junior Member


Join Date: Dec 2005

Sorry to break it to you...BSS1 = confirmed viral

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nothing more than to keep everyone on a wild goose chse. Fun, yes. Pointless, yes.This was confirmed by the ad agency who runs the sites.

http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=23339&highlight=bss1

Has anyone else seen this? Any confirmation?

[lxicon]

http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=23339&highlight=bss1
Has anyone else seen this? Any confirmation?

i think he was thinking about this:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship.com.websites.jpg

but they don't mention bss1... by his logic:
http://www.oceanicflight815.com/
http://www.oceanic-air.com/
http://www.thehansofoundation.org/

would be "confirmed viral" whatever that means. i'm in the camp that those three sites are canon as they were created with and by request of the LOST PTB. and have been mentioned in interviews with LOST writers.


if he has a link where they talk about bss1 i'd like to see it.

[bigassfan]

Wasn't the previous break during another LOST vacation period? It doesn't surprise me that it has taken some time off, especially since LOST is on vacation until next year.

Oh well...I've been confirmed viral...but I am on anti-biotics...my doctor said it would help! :)

[Happy78Face]

I think he is just jealous LMAO :)

[lxicon]

Oh well...I've been confirmed viral...but I am on anti-biotics...my doctor said it would help! :)
LOL


and yeah one of the last bss1 dry spells coincided with the last LOST interruption around the time of the superbowl. i remeber being pissed that they couldn't help us through the LOST withdrawl by at least updating bss1! heehee!

gotta go, stuff to look into and code to puzzel out. back later.
-lxicon.

[shred]

Let me take this opportunity during the dry spell to say how much I just love our little OSM forum here. I just can't stop coming in here to admire it. I guess the novelty will wear off eventually.

Okay, back on topic: so bss1 is doing another slow-down, huh?

[mcgrad]

Let me take this opportunity during the dry spell to say how much I just love our little OSM forum here. I just can't stop coming in here to admire it. I guess the novelty will wear off eventually.

Okay, back on topic: so bss1 is doing another slow-down, huh?

I know, Shred... and we owe it all to you! :bowdown: This is such a great solution to the problems we were having! I think BSS1 is taking a break AGAIN! But, if history repeats itself, as soon as we get new episodes, we will get more updates.

[shred]

I know, Shred... and we owe it all to you! :bowdown:
Spread the love around, mcgrad! The whole staff, mods and admins, put this thing together.:) Long live bss1!

[ekl44fe]

I ditto to lxicon providing the summary. Whenever he has time :) Or you can just link to his awesome page o' facts :)

[- JADE -]

How come I can't get onto bigspaceship1.com. It never works for me. :( *cries*