Official Discussion: Bigspaceship1.com [Archive] - Page 5

lxicon

10-26-2005, 04:50 PM

I think with the launching of www.bigspaceship.com and you find out that it is merely a web designer site that was involved in the ABC sites...the illusion that was BBS1 is gone. Though an interesting site...it was a fun ride while it lasted. I'll never forget first logging on and seeing the gas mask and the music...it was creepy.

bigspaceship.com is not a new site. it pre-dates LOST. we haven't linked bigspaceship1.com to bigspaceship.com they are registered to different entities and use different DNS servers.

bss1 has been inactive before (from the 16th to the 21st) so it might start up again. i've been monitoring it and will post back here and a few other boards i'm on if/when it changes. i'll keep watching these threads as well, but there isn't much to post right now.

teh _README.txt file in my archive lists the threads i've been posting in about bss1.

chaz

10-26-2005, 06:11 PM

ARG!!!!!!!!
Do something!!!!!!!!!

bigassfan

10-26-2005, 09:34 PM

bigspaceship.com is not a new site. it pre-dates LOST. we haven't linked bigspaceship1.com to bigspaceship.com they are registered to different entities and use different DNS servers.

bss1 has been inactive before (from the 16th to the 21st) so it might start up again. i've been monitoring it and will post back here and a few other boards i'm on if/when it changes. i'll keep watching these threads as well, but there isn't much to post right now.

teh _README.txt file in my archive lists the threads i've been posting in about bss1.

I think that having the names bigspaceship is more than a coincidence...especially with the Lost creative design team.

Lxicon...I do appreciate you keeping up with things...and I enjoy reading your posts-keep 'em coming.

Je m'en fish

10-27-2005, 01:34 AM

The thing on the bss1 website atm is giving me a bloody headache :)

DykeZuki

10-27-2005, 03:08 AM

Well, MrClucks.com must have lied to us... the web site said it would update in 8 days and that's would have been 3 hours ago or 1 hour ago Pacific time at the very most.

Et Tu? Mr.Clucks?

lxicon

10-27-2005, 08:22 PM

Do you think we'll have to wait until the 4th to get an update?

that was my thought since the activity of late was on the 15th, 16th and 23rd... but the venus fly traps came at 2005-10-21 23:31:14 EST so who knows.

...still monitoring...

livet0ski

10-27-2005, 09:19 PM

those nuts are nutty

Zak88

10-27-2005, 10:25 PM

What is on Bigspaceship.com?

lxicon

10-28-2005, 12:32 AM

What is on Bigspaceship.com?

hmm they have completed their site upgrade.... used to be v2.5 now its v3. they say they did the "official" lost sites....

where does that leave bigspaceship1.com now?

DykeZuki

10-28-2005, 02:29 AM

Hey guess what I am going as?

Lost Mirage

10-28-2005, 08:29 AM

A red bunny rabbit:D

chaz

10-28-2005, 08:46 AM

Hey guess what I am going as?

A Polar Bear!!!!!

lxicon

10-28-2005, 12:15 PM

Since it seems that bigspaceship did the official lost sites (if they didn't do them, i'm sure abc/LOST would complain) then maybe the "constelation" hidden image in the last http://bigspaceship1.com/ posting might be the path to take in the "explore" sections of http://oceanicflight815.com/

Might be hard to verify, but if they are the path you need to take to get extra easter eggs that would be cool. I'll play around with that later.
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.type.settings.for.23.palette.3.g if

DAFinc

10-28-2005, 01:23 PM

any one on to this?
the rat contained the number 42 as an image

livet0ski

10-28-2005, 03:44 PM

i donno if this is new or not, i could just have missed it, because i DID read all 86 pages, but smartdust.com now redirects to ipodnews.com.
hmm...

lxicon

10-28-2005, 04:07 PM

i donno if this is new or not, i could just have missed it, because i DID read all 86 pages, but smartdust.com now redirects to ipodnews.com.
hmm...

yup, it's been like that since anything that's not http://bigspaceship1.com/ or http://www.bigspaceship1.com/ (ie http://blahblahblah.bigspaceship1.com/ ) started redirecting to ipodnews.

they are on the same server so it's probably a default setting for the webserver unless otherwise configured.

--
any one on to this?
the rat contained the number 42 as an image

yes, we did see the 42 in white mouse, red cheese flash file from 2005-10-11. the "42" is a shape set in flash, so no image file is used. nothing to post.

** white mice + 42 = "deep thought" in my book... and that book is the hitchiker's guide to the galaxy. or it's just "42" from the Numbers and a mouse to continue the animal theme.

Fraslet

10-28-2005, 04:49 PM

I'm guessing it's not a coincidence there are 216 (2x108) nuts on bigspaceship1.com.

lxicon

10-28-2005, 05:12 PM

I'm guessing it's not a coincidence there are 216 (2x108) nuts on bigspaceship1.com.

it could be, it's a stock optical illusion.

last week when we had no activity from the 16th to the 21st, the site started changing again on friday night (11:30 pm EST) then we got more on sunday. i can see that they might not wan't a randomly updating website changing during the week since that might cause some problems for people who work or go to school. if we're lucky, we might get a site that changes on weekends only. -at least we'd know not to expect stuff during the week.

UconnHuskies22

10-28-2005, 05:26 PM

so does this mean big space ship 1 is dead?

Fraslet

10-28-2005, 05:27 PM

I've been away from home all week and had a complete lost fest since getting home this evening, bit disappointed the other images etc on bigspaceship1.com have changed to this though.

DykeZuki

10-28-2005, 05:57 PM

i was thinking of putting together a dharma outfit. just get a tan shirt & pants like desmond's and use iron-on transfers of the dharma logos etc. i did something similar for my "rimmer" costume in 2003. but i've got other plans for halloween and it's not a costume event.
Well, speculation says there might be another convict that was on the plane... It's me. Orange Convict Pants, Stolen Law Enforcement Officer Shirt and a bloody, white Wife Beater t-shirt with my convict number 4815162342, handcuffs and the works! I love it!!!

sing_4themoment

10-28-2005, 07:52 PM

Hehe, awesome! I'm just going out with some friends...maybe. Really busy with school these days...and probably giving out candy on Monday haha

nvs78

10-28-2005, 07:54 PM

why 655321?

did a google, and 'alex' from clockwork orange was number 655321 ?..
lol
how'd danielles kid get into clockwork orange?..

DykeZuki

10-28-2005, 11:49 PM

heehee, wrong "little alex" -->danielle's kid is a she.

A Clockwork Orange is a movie without equal.
"hmm, eggy-wegs. I want too... SMASH 'EM!;"
I knew this believe it or not. It was my second choice!
Six Double Five Three Two One

PS... Mr.Clucks changed their website.

nvs78

10-28-2005, 11:54 PM

they did?
still looks the same to me after a few refreshes? :(
ooh. the writing in the flashy green bit?
this is what i was able to get..
i dont know if its changed or what the original stuff was, but this is what i could see..

the monster only wants what you want... you will know the monster by the sound of its cries... you only see the monster if you close your eyes.. the monster is as real as you are..

hhamill

10-29-2005, 12:30 AM

FWIW, bigspaceship.com is also claiming thehansofoundation.org; so it could very well be a bigspaceship development server.

iusedtohavealife

10-29-2005, 02:04 PM

I know what I'm going to be for Halloween. I'm going to be a website that used to update several times a day with crazy content but now just updates once a week at best with pictures of nuts and the like.

scullygirl818

10-29-2005, 05:57 PM

have you guys checked out though bigspaceship.com? if you type in the other version for the directory (v2.5) you can get more. There flash sites are so awesome. I've taken flash classes at school and I see what they have done and it blows me away. I like the Elektra one. Did someone say they did Donnie Darko? I don't see the link to that one, but i always loved that site. I'd love to work on a flash site like that. Just cant think of what to make, but a good amount of what they did I could do.

Zak88

10-29-2005, 06:51 PM

Can someone please explain wtf is going on now?

scullygirl818

10-29-2005, 07:07 PM

...read the previous posts or do a search...

Mithrandir

10-30-2005, 01:57 PM

STILL the nuts... wah.. they should update it already..

dasbiatch

10-30-2005, 04:28 PM

i dont see why they havent replaced the title or made it morse, maybe its a sign that the site isnt showing clues or we got the wrong one on the last few updates and this is a kind of wake up call as to say weve been looking in the wrong places....hmmmm

Lockescythe

10-31-2005, 02:29 AM

or uh
since lost is on break hes on break.

Mithrandir

10-31-2005, 12:20 PM

Maybe the guy got a life and he's telling us were nuts and to get a life too

Ooh! O.o .. Sounds interesting. Where can I get one?

UconnHuskies22

10-31-2005, 02:55 PM

ding dong the witch is dead

joelman

10-31-2005, 05:38 PM

Has anybody been to http://www.bigspaceship1.org/ ?

If you look in the Source code for the site you can view WWW access statistics (presumably for the site in question) at this link here: http://www.interchange.ubc.ca/web-stats/2004/Mar/Mar10.html#Archive

I've been unable to unearth anything that seems to make this more than a gimmick. Though there are bazillions of directories and strange file-names listed.

lxicon

10-31-2005, 10:01 PM

Has anybody been to http://www.bigspaceship1.org/ ?
If you look in the Source code for the site you can view WWW access statistics (presumably for the site in question) at this link here: http://www.interchange.ubc.ca/web-stats/2004/Mar/Mar10.html#Archive

i had a quick look at them a while ago. they seemed to be unrelated weblogs logs from the university of british columbia. if it's for student directories, you may find a recipie for weed-butter brownies, but thats about it.

Lost_with_Jack89

11-01-2005, 10:23 AM

Just curious...dont know if this has been mentioned...but has anyone tried looking at these pages with 3D glasses or something? THis one I'm looking at (a gas mask) seems to be divided into red and green/blue....which is usually how 3D glasses work...

Just a thought.

lxicon

11-01-2005, 10:31 AM

has anyone tried looking at these pages with 3D glasses or something? THis one I'm looking at (a gas mask) seems to be divided into red and green/blue....which is usually how 3D glasses work...

i assume you're looking at an archive? the current http://bigspaceship1.com/ page is just the crappy 216 nuts gif....

as for the gas mask; i only have polarlized 3-d glasses so i wasn't able to see how it looked in 3-d (maybe i'll rent shark boy and lava girl again and use those glasses) the gas mask was the only obviously 3-d image that i saw on bss1.

i think many of the images used were not created exclusivly for bss1 (both optical illusions had been seen elsewhere before bss1's 'lost' incarnations) i wonder where the others came from?

lxicon

11-01-2005, 11:12 AM

Whats up with the nuts animation that's up right now? Has it been up there for long?

yeah it's been there since 2005-10-24 17:03:56 EST. kind of a bummer. the html source code for the nuts is also pretty basic. it doesn't look like the html source code from the other versions. my guess is that someone pulled the plug and just put up that gif because it's smaller than a flash file, and the lack of morse code in the title might be to reduce interest and make people stop checking the site. i'm still keeping an eye on it though ;)

there was a downtime for bss1 between the 16th and 23rd (with only 1 change on the 21st) so maybe we'll be lucky and get new stuff on the 4th, and 8th. who knows?

LOST_the_plot

11-02-2005, 06:30 AM

there was a downtime for bss1 between the 16th and 23rd (with only 1 change on the 21st) so maybe we'll be lucky and get new stuff on the 4th, and 8th. who knows?

16th and 23rd??? 4 and 8?? Nah... I'm just crazy lol.

I hope this site hasn't died... it's too cool to die!! I can scare my parents with the weird chipmunk music that plays on some of them. :D

lxicon

11-02-2005, 12:43 PM

if you're bored waiting for bss1 to reload, see what you can do with this (just for fun):
http://lxicon.perception.net/lxicon.banner.jpg

Perdida BCN

11-02-2005, 05:22 PM

"IF I ARE READING THIS THEN WHY NOT TRY STEG HIDE"

:( I don't understand "steg" :(

lxicon

11-03-2005, 10:15 AM

hmm the html seems to have changed on bss1. they added an ! in the title. it happened sometime last night, but i only caught it this morning.

2 points for todell on an other forum. i saw his post before seeing it myself.

scullygirl818

11-04-2005, 09:34 PM

Found something interesting on another board (television without pity) that I have yet to see mentioned here that I know of. Do you think this has something to do with the name of the site?

Posted by Manchot
I thought that I'd share another interesting tidbit that I just discovered. According to the website, the president of Oceanic Airlines is Michael Orteig. A quick search on the name revealed that the $25,000 prize which Charles Lindbergh won for crossing the Atlantic was called the Orteig Prize, named after its financial backer, Raymond Orteig. (In case you didn't know, the more recent Ansari X-Prize, which was won by SpaceShipOne, was modeled after the Orteig Prize.) Thus, it seems to be an appropriate name for a airline president.

SpaceShipOne? Like bigspaceship1???

lxicon

11-04-2005, 10:11 PM

...According to the website, the president of Oceanic Airlines is Michael Orteig. A quick search on the name revealed that the $25,000 prize which Charles Lindbergh won for crossing the Atlantic was called the Orteig Prize, named after its financial backer, Raymond Orteig. (In case you didn't know, the more recent Ansari X-Prize, which was won by SpaceShipOne, was modeled after the Orteig Prize.)
SpaceShipOne? Like bigspaceship1???

Thats pretty cool! i didn't know the X-Prize was modeled after an other competition... i did a quick google and found this from an msnbc page:
"The Ansari X Prize, established in 1996, is modeled after the $25,000 Orteig Prize that was won by trans-Atlantic aviator Charles Lindbergh in 1927. Erik Lindbergh, a member of the X Prize Foundation's board, said his grandfather would have been "really excited" about the achievement."

Still, i think it might be a bit of a strech to go from "Oceanic Airlines" -> "Michael Orteig" -> "Orteig Prize" -> "X-Prize" -> "SpaceShipOne" -> "bigspaceship1.com"
-you know how they say about six degrees of separation is all you need to connect anything to anything... (well anyONE to anyONE, but same diff)

ArrEmmDee

11-06-2005, 12:00 PM

Thats pretty cool! i didn't know the X-Prize was modeled after an other competition... i did a quick google and found this from an msnbc page:
"The Ansari X Prize, established in 1996, is modeled after the $25,000 Orteig Prize that was won by trans-Atlantic aviator Charles Lindbergh in 1927. Erik Lindbergh, a member of the X Prize Foundation's board, said his grandfather would have been "really excited" about the achievement."

Still, i think it might be a bit of a strech to go from "Oceanic Airlines" -> "Michael Orteig" -> "Orteig Prize" -> "X-Prize" -> "SpaceShipOne" -> "bigspaceship1.com"
-you know how they say about six degrees of separation is all you need to connect anything to anything... (well anyONE to anyONE, but same diff)

Perhaps not. Wasn't Desmond on a competition to race around the world as fast as possible? It's pretty similar.

lxicon

11-06-2005, 12:46 PM

Perhaps not. Wasn't Desmond on a competition to race around the world as fast as possible? It's pretty similar.

you're right! and that is interesting. does anyone have extra info on what the race's name was? in the "orientation" episode desmond says his boat crashed, so it's most likely a sailing race. i can't remember many details about what desmond said he was training for when he met jack doing the "Tour de stad".

Fuchtherezer

11-06-2005, 03:42 PM

Ok if you can find the the guy who first discovered Bigspaceship1 I think thats they guy that made the site. Well I mean you dont just casually go and reverse the IP of the hanso website and discover something like this, its a 1 in a million chance. So maybe the guy that made bigspaceship1 was frustrated that noone was finding his site and did this to try and get people to discover it. Its a far fetched idea and I know it doesnt explain how he got the exact IP but its just a thought.

Lost Mirage

11-06-2005, 05:40 PM

Eh, it's far-fetched, but I like it...wasn't the addy that someone got when they did a Whosis the same town that some person (or company, whatever) did an ARGish thing for some movie or t.v show? I remember reading it somewhere, LOL....I dunno, I guess I'm remaining positive still....

But I admit I'm getting jaded to the whole thing. It's starting to drag too much here...I can't believe not even stuff to tide us over during this 3 week hiatus--it would seem like the perfect time to do some good stuff.

DykeZuki

11-06-2005, 09:53 PM

shred

11-07-2005, 12:24 AM

1,333 posts and you guys are thinking this might be a bogus site? Somebody let me know when you think we should close the puppy down (the thread, not the site, haha.)

lxicon

11-07-2005, 12:30 AM

Well I mean you dont just casually go and reverse the IP of the hanso website and discover something like this, its a 1 in a million chance.

http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/visual.route.2005-10-08.report.for.thehansofoundation.org.txt
-as a web programmer i DO just casually do visual routes on odd websites. i like to see where they are coming from and visual route can usually tie IPs to cities and plot the hops on a global map. (pretty cool actually)

anyway, i did the visual route on the 8th the day after i saw the "bigspaceship1.com" text at https://thehansofoundation.org/ (another thing i normally do when poking around a website) -they removed the text by Oct 17th.

i had got the "optical illusion / WBNY" version and the rodent revolution code got my interest. i looked around on the ABC forums and found that others had already found it, so i wasn't me (heehee)

it's a good idea to check for most recent postings though. the forums should all be dated, so we could probably look for the earliest post from any of the main forums that are talking about bss1. maybe i'll look at that later, but i don't have time just now.

i've listed the other forums i was posting in in my _README.txt file, and there's also the television without pity forum and an orkut forum but i don't have an orkut account to read it. there's also the /refer/ page at bss1. that should point back to other forums that are still linking people to bss1.

i'm still monitoring btw.

-lxicon

---edit---

D'oH! looks like i'll miss out being the 1337 'leet' post. bummer.

---edit 2---
hi zuki!

DykeZuki

11-07-2005, 01:24 AM

I wonder if we are the largest post here so far?

Fuchtherezer

11-07-2005, 02:58 AM

1,333 posts and you guys are thinking this might be a bogus site? Somebody let me know when you think we should close the puppy down (the thread, not the site, haha.)

To tell you the truth I think it is about time this thread was shut down, i mean ive been following this thread and Bss1 for a while now and although it was the coolest thing ever at the start, it eventually just got stupid and boring and now Its just getting on everyones nerves. And if it turns out that it ever was just a stupid joke, then the Insanity was for nothing.
Oh btw dont shut it down till we know it wont change after 2.06 this wednesday.

Mithrandir

11-07-2005, 01:37 PM

Yeah, that sounds like a good idea..

Fuchtherezer

11-07-2005, 02:28 PM

Just a bit off topic, has anyone seen that web site www.thisisnotporn.com It has nothing to do with lost but it is as intruiging and annoying as Bss1 in my opinion. Aparently if you manage yo get to the end of the site your look on life will be changed for ever. Wierd~

Fraslet

11-07-2005, 02:28 PM

I was just browsing around the forums and discovered that smartdust.com has changed - it doesn't redirect to ipodnews anymore!

lxicon

11-07-2005, 04:05 PM

I was just browsing around the forums and discovered that smartdust.com has changed - it doesn't redirect to ipodnews anymore!
looks like it's tied directly to bss1 now, the refer page shows the same entries for both:
smartdust.com/refer/
bigspaceship1.com/refer/

* i noticed atomicmedia.net/refer/ is similar but not the same.

--edit--

i had poked around thisisnotporn.com before but gave up on "the eyes that C the Claws that CatCh" page.

sing_4themoment

11-07-2005, 07:44 PM

shred

11-07-2005, 10:16 PM

Well what do you guys think? I'm just afraid that if we DO close the thread down that the website will pick back up....I agree with Fuchtherezer, we'll find out if anything will happen before/during/after Wednesday....
I'll come back after 2.06 since that seems to be the crucial event. If something new comes out of all of it, you could start a new, different thread. Seriously, this thread gives me a headache.:)

iusedtohavealife

11-07-2005, 10:46 PM

Just to put in my 2 cents I say keep this thread going cause the mystery is still not completely solved. I feel like we have a core group of people that post often here and I'd hate to lose that (should the site be updated again which I think it will).

Oh by the way - hello everybody - long time no talk (thanks to a lack of updating).

lxicon

11-08-2005, 12:31 AM

guys, I think the reason they are not updating is because we haven't figured out the nuts yet...lmao, but I think that's why s/he added that exclamation mark or something so we're missing something??
Meh...I don't get it >.<

i did have a similar thought about the ! but it could also have been a test to see if we had stoped checking, or what the reaction would be. (lack-luster it seems)

i already looked at the gif for palette entries, but it seems to have nothing hidden. i tried a few stegenographic programs that can hide extra data in .gif files. -it seems gifshuffle comes up the most in google searches about the subject so i tried passwords like 2FENO6, 2feno6, lost... in both compressed and non-compressed modes but it all seems like gibberish. (the point of stegenography is not to let on that there is or is NOT a message hidden in the file)

here is the output if anyone cares:

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C lost.gif
sr iield
D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf lost.gif
s<z

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "2FENO6" lost.gif
pt lIie(
D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -p "2FENO6" lost.gif
å{_?_Warning: residual of 3 bits not output

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "2feno6" lost.gif
tamsg hh Warning: residual of 3 bits not uncompressed
D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -p "2feno6" lost.gif
ò+?±ÅWarning: residual of 3 bits not output

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "lost" lost.gif
eifrob
D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -p "lost" lost.gif
?¡16Warning: residual of 3 bits not output

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "smartdust" lost.gif
diahN ttWarning: residual of 4 bits not uncompressed
D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -p "smartdust" lost.gif
A¼i~g

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "bigspaceship1.com" lost.gif
g ftD:
D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -p "bigspaceship1.com" lost.gif
w+4¦¦

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "hello world" lost.gif
naSrti.s
D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -p "hello world" lost.gif
§ñ+¥?Warning: residual of 3 bits not output

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "!" lost.gif
taSs.r.Warning: residual of 3 bits not uncompressed
D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -p "!" lost.gif
òñ
5A

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "216" lost.gif
tnif erxWarning: residual of 3 bits not uncompressed
D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -p "216" lost.gif
æ:+j+

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "nuts" lost.gif
aaigns tit
D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -p "nuts" lost.gif
U7D<£Warning: residual of 3 bits not output

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "216nuts" lost.gif
s l ogtSWarning: residual of 3 bits not uncompressed

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "216 nuts" lost.gif
Teasgtcu

D:\gifshuffle>gifshuf -C -p "this is useless" lost.gif
hsytt I
n

then i gave up.

as for killing this thread... if it gives the mod a headache, who am i to do anything about it. i'd mail him some asprin but i doubt that'd help. mind you, as long as you're throwing around random numbers like ep. 2.06 why not wait 'till Nov. 16th thats a lost night and it's a Number

in the mean time, i'll keep monitoring bss1 until i don't feel like it anymore.

-lxicon

Lost Mirage

11-08-2005, 11:05 AM

I'll come back after 2.06 since that seems to be the crucial event. If something new comes out of all of it, you could start a new, different thread. Seriously, this thread gives me a headache.:)

You know, that's a good idea. I mean, 1/2 of this thread is "man this sucks" threads and "it's real/not real" threads. And the other half is either the same info over and over again OR *gasp* new stuff.

Maybe until our spaceship makes another move we can take this time to put together all the information that has been found so far. So that way a newbie can read a page or two of stuff before posting that he was "just at the site and saw the nuts and OMG what does that mean", you know? :D

And you're not the only one with a headache. :D

Fuchtherezer

11-08-2005, 11:45 AM

Go here >>http://www.lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=20071<< for something related.

chaz

11-08-2005, 07:06 PM

....as for killing this thread... if it gives the mod a headache, who am i to do anything about it. i'd mail him some asprin but i doubt that'd help. mind you, as long as you're throwing around random numbers like ep. 2.06 why not wait 'till Nov. 16th thats a lost night and it's a Number

in the mean time, i'll keep monitoring bss1 until i don't feel like it anymore.

-lxicon

I agree. I hope something happens soon. The nuts are driving me crazy. I'll still check the site even if this thread closes.

Has anyone noticed that Mr Cluck's has changed?

shred

11-08-2005, 07:38 PM

Brisbane_rob

11-08-2005, 08:47 PM

the altest nuts image is to show how crazy we al lare for following that site...

WE ARE NUTS

DykeZuki

11-08-2005, 10:01 PM

LEX! LEX! Where are you?!?!? The site has updated!

There is a Manta Ray on the page.

The Morse Code says "DOGSTAR". Backwards is RatsDog.
Which I believe was the name of Keanu Reeves old band.
Reference to Vincent if you ask me. Vincent gets eatten by a Manta Ray???

And there is a link in the source code...
http://www.malbertphoto.com/mobulas1.html

Mr.Clucks has changed and the source code says...
"This site is not created by ABC or Touchstone. As a former writer for the show 'LOST' I have inside knowledge that serious fans may want to have. Instead of just leaking this info, I thought I would have a little fun and present it in code. Also I have nothing to do with the podcast I am linking to. I am just a big fan of it. - Quinn"

Lost Mirage

11-08-2005, 10:06 PM

ROFL...

Are TPTB over there listening to us?

Hey, does anyone know anything about astronomy? I coulda sworn "dogstar" was more than Neo's band but when I googled it I came up short.

Those "flying" mantras are so neat though!

Edit: Hah, never mind. "dogstar" is used to refer to Sirius(Alpha Canis Majoris), the brightest star in the sky. It belongs to the constellation Canis Major, the Greater Dog, which represents Orion's larger hunting dog, and as such is commonly referred to as the "Dog Star."

scullygirl818

11-08-2005, 10:50 PM

yep dogstar is the name of Keanu's band. Upon searching though I found a memorial site for dogs, I hope it's not hinting that something will happen to Vincent:( I don't think though that site has anything to do with it

As for another cool site, I've become addicted to http://www.notpron.com
It makes more sense than notporn and is more fair. Doing these puzzles so reminds me of bigspaceship1.com

lxicon

11-09-2005, 12:30 AM

LEX! LEX! Where are you?!?!? The site has updated!

geeze, i take the computer offline to rewire the AV cables for one night and thats the night bss1 does something new!

logs are being updated, and i'll start looking for hidden stuff in the image and such.

2005-11-08 23:01:00 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : Flying Mobula (image in new path /images/1.gif)
audio : none
morse : DOGSTAR
link : http://www.malbertphoto.com/mobulas1.html

** nice job zuki! can i use the time of your post for the time that site updated? or do you know when you first noticed?

--edit--

since there's no music on bss1 how 'bout this celebratory tune:
http://lxicon.perception.net/pixies.-.manta.ray.mp3

--edit--

nothing in the image palettes.

the image is actually at the path "/images/1.gif" instead of just "lost.gif" like the old 216nuts lost.gif (which is still in the document root)

* an image src with a leading slash is not as portable as just using "images/1.gif" -code like that forces the page to be at the root directory, and break when you move the code to a subdirectory. this code is different from the 216 nuts and very different from the original bss1 incarnations. but it also look hand written rather than piped out of some dreamweaver type program.

the malbertphoto.com link is not related to bss1 as far as i can tell from reverse dns and whois lookups:

www.malbertphoto.com canonical name = malbertphoto.com.
Name: malbertphoto.com
Address: 66.84.45.11

domain: malbertphoto.com
owner-name: malbertphotocom
owner-address: 112 allez les verts
owner-address: F-75022, Paris
owner-address: France

-but the network that that IP is on is listed as:

NetRange: 66.84.0.0 - 66.84.63.255
OrgName: Jumpline Inc
OrgID: JMPL
Address: 1679 Gateway Circle
City: Grove City
StateProv: OH
PostalCode: 43123
Country: US

i've seen foreign pages hosted in the US for better bandwidth. thats probably it.

-lxicon

DykeZuki

11-09-2005, 01:20 AM

** nice job zuki! can i use the time of your post for the time that site updated? or do you know when you first noticed?
-lxicon
That's the 1st I noticed it. I posted as soon as I could but you might check your other boards... I was late getting on today as I was doing Microsoft and WinAmp Updates and Hmmm... working I guess?

You don't know how feverishly I started working to locate some sort of hints.

Yeah and I went to that NOTPRON site and got to page 7 before it gave me a terrible headache!

lxicon

11-09-2005, 02:47 AM

That's the 1st I noticed it. I posted as soon as I could but you might check your other boards...

well on the 5 other boards i watch, it looks like you were the first, so 2005-11-08 23:01:00 EST it is. someone on the abc/LOST forum posted at 11:30 but the others didn't have anything about it yet.

from the mobulas page : "It is not uncommon to mistake mobulas for mantas. One researcher I spoke with was careful to make the distinction; another used the names interchangeably."

that begs the question, is the pic on bss1 a manta ray or a mobula? i guess it doesn't matter much, but i've never heard of a mobula before. google image searches of "mobula" and "manta ray" don't help much. they look pretty much the same.
-you learn something new everyday, that's why you get up in the morning.

and the morse code... more astonomy refrences. hmm.

So educate me. This thread started becasue of the site bigspaceship1.com, right? All of you monitor the site because there are updates from time to time? No one has updated the site in a while? You also discuss other sites such as Mr.Cluck in here, too? There is a core group of you who come here often to check up on the status of the sites? I am mystified by this thread, so you need to tell me what's going on.

the reason we keep checking bss1 is because it's good! whoever is doing the full-blown updates (not that placeholder 216nuts page) is a good designer. the images and audio are pretty cool in a disturbing sort of way. quality work goes a long way to keeping interest (unlike some of the hack bss1 wannabes)

and NOTHING has ever been explained. there's no proof it has anything do to with LOST or how the url got onto the hanso site or what any of the miriad of odd selections that have been displayed have to do with LOST or with each other. the "clues" and puzzles and ties to one another have all been left up to the audience. -now there's someone who knows how to keep a mystery alive.

i think of it as cross between a online gallery and a puzzle site. i don't mind checking it to see whats new and interesting. ...and don't get me started on random reward schedules reinforcing stimilus/response curves....

needless to say we're all "pushing the button" (the reload button)

-lxicon

Perdida BCN

11-09-2005, 04:10 AM

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Navy"]LEX! LEX! The Morse Code says "DOGSTAR". Backwards is RatsDog.

Backwards is RATSGOD...

Rodent revolution?

bigassfan

11-09-2005, 08:13 AM

New Lost Tonight...Updated Bigspaceship1...coincidence? I think not!

Also...DOGSTAR refers to Sirius...which could mean that the designer is a Howard Stern Fan and he is trying to remind everyone about going to Eh Eh Eh!

mcgrad

11-09-2005, 08:29 AM

So educate me. This thread started becasue of the site bigspaceship1.com, right? All of you monitor the site because there are updates from time to time? No one has updated the site in a while? You also discuss other sites such as Mr.Cluck in here, too? There is a core group of you who come here often to check up on the status of the sites? I am mystified by this thread, so you need to tell me what's going on.

You can PM if you want.

Shred,
First, welcome to moderator-dom-- it's a job I wouldn't want! :bowdown: I guess to answer your questions, we do monitor the site for updates, and while they come fast and furious at some times, at others they are maddeningly slow. It has, however, finally been updated again, giving us new fodder for discussion. The mention(s) of Mr. Cluck have to do with several things-- boredom, speculation, and more speculation. We have a couple of amazing posters (ie. Lexicon, etc.) who know more about programming and such than us average folks, and they figure out the "goods" on the new updates and are kind enough to share their knowledge and experience with us. This thread has kept us going through three weeks:crackup: of no LOST, and even though some of us have not posted in a while, we ARE still reading it! I would hate to see this thread closed down-- and in fact, due to the longevity of the discussion, would even recommend a sticky. Respectfully yours!

chaz

11-09-2005, 08:57 AM

Hey, Where the heck are the nuts?

Fuchtherezer

11-09-2005, 09:12 AM

K im just gonna say that I was looking throught the Bigspaceship.com web design groups homepage and seeing as THEY made the hanso foundation site they could have just made bigspaceship1 for a laugh or maybe the Bigspaceship1 text on the Hanso site was just a typo cuz I always type a 1 instead of an ! sometimes. I dunno but this web site is getting really OLD really FAST and now i just laugh at the sad loser who still updates it. For the sake of our sanity I hope this site is shut down really really soon.

Dukefrukem

11-09-2005, 09:36 AM

I can't believe this thread is 90 pages long.. I thought this BSS1 has been deunked long ago.... why are you wasting your time?

jmccreddie

11-09-2005, 10:28 AM

Hey, i have this weird feeling ive heard the name dogstar in some sort of cartoon film when i was younger. I JUST CANT THINK THO. or i mite be completely wrong. I just thought id post this thought to see if it refreshed anybodies memories.

iusedtohavealife

11-09-2005, 10:28 AM

Yay an update! The person doing this is sooooo watching us. Hello person doing this.

dasbiatch

11-09-2005, 11:37 AM

im just wondering where he got the photo from because, is it just me, or is that photo the ceator has used bears no resemblance to the photos on the website?

(the one bss1 links to)

also not pron annoys me and i cant get past level 3 :(

siggisplendid

11-09-2005, 11:50 AM

Look what I found on www.mrclucks.com ... maybe irrelevant of the topic but it has the numbers on it.

http://www.globespotter.com/

FattyRoberts

11-09-2005, 11:53 AM

im just wondering where he got the photo from because, is it just me, or is that photo the ceator has used bears no resemblance to the photos on the website?
(the one bss1 links to)(

If I am understanding you correctly, then I think you are wrong. The photo used on BS1 is definitely one of the Manta/Mobula pics from the "Flying Mobulas" site.

Don't know if this help, but here the two images are together to help us compare.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jon.roberts/mantas1.jpg

Dukefrukem

11-09-2005, 11:55 AM

am i missing something? are you guys assuming the person who registered the site works for ABC or something?

dasbiatch

11-09-2005, 12:03 PM

i see what u mean, but the horizons are at different heights, so they can be the same, unless its been resized to buggery, but yeah i now see where it came from, it was just me being an idiot :p

(cant be arsed to upload images, but just put the two nextto each other and then scale the "real" photos height down to see what im talking about)

im a twat, ignore the post, ive been rushing it a bit me thinks

lxicon

11-09-2005, 12:12 PM

am i missing something? are you guys assuming the person who registered the site works for ABC or something?

the person who registered a site isn't always the person who works on it. read the first few pages of this thread for details about the https://thehansofoundation.org/ link to bss1. also, http://bigspaceship.com/ did do the LOST micro sites : http://www.oceanicflight815.com/ , http://www.oceanic-air.com/ and http://www.thehansofoundation.org/

* i haven't seen real proof either way (for or against) a direct link to abc/LOST if you find some, let me know.

FattyRoberts

11-09-2005, 12:14 PM

i see what u mean, but the horizons are at different heights, so they can be the same, unless its been resized to buggery, but yeah i now see where it came from, it was just me being an idiot :p
Not sure you are right there either I am afraid :p I think it is the exact same image, at the exact same size and resolution etc. I have put the "photo" over the "dotty" image with a 70% transparency setting and with no resizing or scaling at all (see below) and they seem to line up 100%
im a twat, ignore the post, ive been rushing it a bit me thinks:D No problemo... I am sure we have all dived in with the occasional inconsidered post in our time! I certainly have!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jon.roberts/mantas2.jpg

dasbiatch

11-09-2005, 12:18 PM

lxicon

11-09-2005, 12:28 PM

oh well, maybe the creator wants us to look into the picture more, he put the link there and so i think maybe we might need to look at where/when the photo was taken, who by and what not

btw there is a contact email on the site if ne 1 wants to give it a go!
i think a lot of people will be emailing that photographer. i hope it doesn't piss them off like the 800 number people.

also, i got this from another forum : "The Flying Mobulas of the Sea of Cortez" -> "Ana-Lucia Cortez" interesting.
--edit--
the "Cortez" could be just a coincidence, but it is interesting. sorry if i wasn't clear dasbiatch
--/edit--

dasbiatch

11-09-2005, 12:31 PM

how is that interesting? or is it sarcasm, at my expense?

also it turns out the photographer was paul albert

and now i see where the cortez bit comes into play, this site HAS to be related to lost, not just loads of co-incedences

Dukefrukem

11-09-2005, 12:39 PM

the person who registered a site isn't always the person who works on it. read the first few pages of this thread for details about the https://thehansofoundation.org/ link to bss1. also, http://bigspaceship.com/ did do the LOST micro sites : http://www.oceanicflight815.com/ , http://www.oceanic-air.com/ and http://www.thehansofoundation.org/

* i haven't seen real proof either way (for or against) a direct link to abc/LOST if you find some, let me know.

Maybe it was a way taht the creators wanted to hide the "link to ABC" if you will, and figured it would be less drawn to if it was registered to someone else...

oh well, maybe the creator wants us to look into the picture more, he put the link there and so i think maybe we might need to look at where/when the photo was taken, who by and what not

btw there is a contact email on the site if ne 1 wants to give it a go!

has anyone tried reversing the image or embossing it...? adding some filters...? see if there is anything else hidden...?

Fuchtherezer

11-09-2005, 12:43 PM

K ive emailed that guy and I WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS................im just not sure what this is.

DykeZuki

11-09-2005, 01:14 PM

I would hate to see this thread closed down-- and in fact, due to the longevity of the discussion, would even recommend a sticky. Respectfully yours!
Oooo let's Not make it a STICKY... We'll have tons of Newbs in here asking all kinds of stupid questions, not bothering to read the thread At All. Just my thought on it.

And just a note to those who keep asking why??? and that's it's bogus.
Why are you posting here taking up our time and your time and wasting space yourselves?
Just leave us freaks alone and we'll be fine. It gives us something else to do and to speculate over, especially when Lost hasn't been on for the last 2 weeks.

mcgrad

11-09-2005, 01:33 PM

Good point, Dykezuki-- I hadn't thought of that. We have enough annoying questions. But I think you're like me and would hate to see the thread closed-- what to do?!?

DykeZuki

11-09-2005, 01:47 PM

Good point, Dykezuki-- I hadn't thought of that. We have enough annoying questions. But I think you're like me and would hate to see the thread closed-- what to do?!?
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if the MODs took out ANY irrelevant post, like people asking stupid questions and even my own rantings 1/2 way thru, or stuff that has been asked 5 times by people who never bothered to read the thread to begin with. But I am sure they have enough problems of their own.

lxicon

11-09-2005, 02:08 PM

i agree that the thread shouldn't get a sticky.

i don't mind giving brief primers of what bss1 is about 'cause it's hard to get someone to read 90+ pages to get up to speed. that's just unreasonable.

for the nay sayers who just post "hasn't this been prooved a faked yet?" : that doesn't really help.
if you saw something that prooves it's a fake then post that info (after using the "search thread" function to see if it's already been posted)

-lxicon

scullygirl818

11-09-2005, 02:29 PM

First just so you know, I have edited this post like 3 times but its better than reposting I guess. I had missed reading the last page for some reason lol.

It is a mobula, if you look at the gallery on the mobula site you can tell which image they altered in order to get it, http://www.malbertphoto.com/mobula_images/mobula4b.jpg which the file says mobula
The other thing I noticed (so used to changing urls from notpron i tried things) that there is also this photo that seems to be the "noncropped version" here
http://www.malbertphoto.com/mobula_images/mobula4.jpg

Then here is the other thing, if you change 1.gif to 1.jpg you get this
http://bigspaceship1.com/images/1.jpg

btw, does anyone have the link on how to do the palette thing in ps? I can't remember where and I never read how to do it. I've just used equalize or channels.

Also I must comment on notpron again - i love this thing i'm on -71 (after 81 it goes into negatives) I love trying to figure it out, but I do use the hints on the main forum and others if I get stuck. Its fun to think, but after an hour or so I will usually search to find more out)

I was actually thinking it would be fun to do a lost one, I guess I probably would get lots of hits on it. But I have to finish fixing my site on the server I'm using - I dont have the DNS changed over yet, and it would probably use a decent amount of bandwidth but would be right off of the ip address which wouldn't be good!

Fuchtherezer

11-09-2005, 02:37 PM

Ok so the guy who originally posted about bigspaceship1 was called mike, and he only has 2 posts to date. The first being the one at the very start of this thread and the second replying to a guy who said that the link didnt work. It appears as if this guy signed up to the forum just to post about Bss1. Hmmmmmm.
Mike??? Has anyone heard of a mike being mentioned on bss1. BTW the forum was the 4815162342 forum.

allstarfung

11-09-2005, 02:48 PM

^^^^ i mentioned that like 80 pages back but nobody seems to listen to me

Fuchtherezer

11-09-2005, 02:51 PM

^^^^ i mentioned that like 80 pages back but nobody seems to listen to me

lol sorry. Checkin now*

TheDude

11-09-2005, 02:52 PM

I am a 4815162342.com frequent flyer...what do you want me to investigate?

lxicon

11-09-2005, 02:59 PM

Then here is the other thing, if you change 1.gif to 1.jpg you get this
http://bigspaceship1.com/images/1.jpg

NICE find! i had tried 2.gif but didn't think about .jpg (i did try .swf with no joy)

i was looking at the headers in the mobula4b.jpg and now the 1.jpg and noticed this in the headers for each:
"JFIF" and "Ducky"
JFIF is a standard header for jpg files and it stands for JPEG File Interchange Format).
"Ducky" apparently means it was created with photoshop (i didn't know that) so it's probably not a big deal.

to check for palette data in photoshop you need an indexed colour image (.gif, .bmp) and then go to [Image]->[Mode]->[color Table]. change the palette to windows standard or something where all the colours will be different from what they were originally. that should help find anything.

i usually use lview and use the [Retouch]-> function wich is really for setting one of the palette entries as transparent, but it lets you mask off everything that isn't that palette in black or white. more info by me here : http://forums.go.com/abc/oceanic/thread?start=250&threadID=599587

...and [b]Fuchtherezer nice work on finding that poster. was that the earliest post about bss1 you found? might be worth looking deeper into that.

-lxicon

allstarfung

11-09-2005, 03:02 PM

lol sorry. Checkin now*
no i dont want credit for it just saying i feel the same way you do

scullygirl818

11-09-2005, 03:15 PM

that makes the picture look funky but it worked (tried it on the polar bear/scorpion)

I'll download the program and try it when I get a chance. I did find out though how to hide stuff like that. I originally was messing around and had been using the "equalize" to find it. it shows up that "other white" as gray. If you make your own image in bw and then add anything with that not quite white color you can find it through the equalize. Which I think is cool, but I have no reason to make one, lol

scullygirl818

11-09-2005, 03:33 PM

ok i downloaded lview, how do you open the color palette? I went to global palette but I can get it in the window so I can see the colors

lxicon

11-09-2005, 03:40 PM

ok i downloaded lview, how do you open the color palette? I went to global palette but I can get it in the window so I can see the colors

i'm still using the version of lview i got in 1996, let me check the newer version for where the option is. it should be in the section for making transparent gifs.

--edit--
hmm the current version doesn't seem to have the same interface as the old version. i have the old one from 1996 here http://lxicon.perception.net/lview.zip you don't need to install it, just extract and double click lviewpro.exe and use the file/open menu to open an image. the use [Retouch]-[Backgrounf Color...] menu to mask off palette entries.

-or just use the photoshop way. i'm just used to lview from using it for 9 years.

dasbiatch

11-09-2005, 04:47 PM

has anyone tried pallete work on the new 1.jpg img, i would but i dont have ps

come on lets get this one solved b4 it gets updated again

also i looked on that 481516.... forum and i couldnt find that "mike" guy, what is his posting name?:confused:

just looking at the trend pic, i rele want to know if the writing under the "59 cents" bit is at all legible for ne1 with a cool high res pic viewer...anyone??

lxicon

11-09-2005, 05:13 PM

has anyone tried pallete work on the new 1.jpg img, i would but i dont have ps

the palette thing doesn't work on RGB images like .jpg only on Indexed colour images like .gif or .bmp

i played around in photoshop with it for a while but nothing showed up.

-lxicon

dont

11-09-2005, 05:15 PM

fwiw, the 1.gif and 1.jpg files both have a light 'border' of light-colored pixels arranged in an apparently random pattern. the two 'borders' appear to be identical.

dasbiatch

11-09-2005, 05:23 PM

i dont know if this is at all relevant right now but i just got bored and googled 2fen06, and i got this http://www.uaeinteract.biz/email2afriend.asp?locat=%2Fnature%2Fnatu_ems%2Fen0 6.asp
with 2fen06 in the addy

probably just a coincedence though

meh!

lxicon

11-09-2005, 05:29 PM

fwiw, the 1.gif and 1.jpg files both have a light 'border' of light-colored pixels arranged in an apparently random pattern. the two 'borders' appear to be identical.

yeah you're right. i used the lasso tool in photoshop with a tolerance of 1 and selected the white border at the top left. then i painted the selection black so it shows up. they do look identical!
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.flying.mobula.border.images.1.gi f
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.liquid.trend.border.images.1.jpg

my guess is that they took the liquid trend image into photoshop, converted to index colour and pasted the mobula image onto it to get it to dither to something close to grey scale. when it was saved, the border was all that remained of the liquid trend image. i'll try something like that and see if i get the same results....

--edit--

it's probably something like that. i couldn't get the exact palette results, there may have been some other layers in there to shift the colours above and below the horizon.

unless someone can determin a pattern to the border (just looks like dithering to me) i'm going to let it go at that.

--edit 2--

i put up a version with the palette switched to windows system. that gives all the colour entries a different colour and they are all different from the original palete. this messes up the look of the image but will let you see the borders between two colours that used to be very similar, and are now way different.
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.flying.mobula.windows.system.pal ette.images.1.gif

dasbiatch

11-09-2005, 05:45 PM

i was playing around with it in mspaint and it seems theres loada different colours in that border, cant u change all the pallette colours and try to determine summit?

edit***

also i noticed that the left and right edges to match up at one point, as if they're a code some how, but im not sure how, its for qwite a significant part of the image btw

edit 2***

its rele annoying i go to www.bigspaceship1.com/images, but its forbidden

know any hackers that be able to bash the shell and gain access?? i mite, but we're uk and would have to wait till tomorrow afternoon

dont

11-09-2005, 06:02 PM

i put up a version with the palette switched to windows system. that gives all the colour entries a different colour and they are all different from the original palete. this messes up the look of the image but will let you see the borders between two colours that used to be very similar, and are now way different.
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.flying.mobula.windows.system.pal ette.images.1.gif
if you do the same thing with the 1.jpg file (after conversion), you'll see that they are exactly the same pattern all around the border (but with different pseudo-colors).

whether it means anything it's another story... :)

bigassfan

11-09-2005, 07:30 PM

8:27pm EST It has changed again.
Picture: airline luggage bag

link: http://www.troyland.com/airlinebaglounge.html

morse code translation: dogstar

bigassfan

11-09-2005, 07:36 PM

luggage is FLY NIGERIA AIRWAYS - ALWAYS

Could this be a Mr. Eko clue?

kiko

11-09-2005, 07:52 PM

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/chronic_kiko/wierd.jpg
and that takes u here:
http://www.troyland.com/oceania1.html

lxicon

11-10-2005, 12:04 AM

the source pics used for bss1 seem to be found at the links given. maybe it's to give credit for the image?

--edit--

ahh! i did find something in the image.

it's on palette # 76 (75 if you start counting from 0)
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.airline.bag.palette.76.images.2. gif

or switch the color table to greyscale, in photoshop that works as well ([image]->[mode]->[color table]: then select "greyscale")
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.airline.bag.greyscale.palette.im ages.2.gif

maybe it's about poaching?

-lxicon

Lucent

11-10-2005, 12:48 AM

Interesting, the crosshairs have me thinking of tonight's episode 2x06, but beyond that nothing much. The bag is from a Nigerian airline, and wasn't there discussion at some point about an african ship being present on the island?

lxicon

11-10-2005, 01:13 AM

The bag is from a Nigerian airline, and wasn't there discussion at some point about an african ship being present on the island?

do you mean "the black rock"? thats the only other ship i know of on the island. i'm not sure if it was african. it was either an old prison or slave ship (shackles on the walls)

--edit--

hmmm the 2.gif image changed. it looks corrupted now.

2005-11-10 04:02:42 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : Airline Bag (Fly Nigeria Airways - Always) corrupted image?
audio : none
morse : DOGSTAR
link : http://www.troyland.com/airlinebaglounge.html

http://bigspaceship1.com/images/2.gif
or from my cache http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-11-10_04.02.42/images/2.gif

* http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-11-10_04.02.42/ wont display the correct image because there is already a 2.gif in http://lxicon.perception.net/images/ and the html uses the absolute path "/images/2.gif" instead of the relative path "images/2.gif"

** if whoever is doing bss1 updates is reading these forums, then please concider using relative paths it makes the code more portable. (or don't put two different files up with the same absolute path)
-something tells my i just made sure that ever link on bss1 will be absolute now.

nvs78

11-10-2005, 03:22 AM

i dont know if this has been listed yet, but mrclucks.com has been updated.. it now has a pic of a chicken, and in the bottom of the source code is this

This site is not created by ABC or Touchstone. As a former writer for the show 'LOST' I have inside knowledge that serious fans may want to have. Instead of just leaking this info, I thought I would have a little fun and present it in code. Also I have nothing to do with the podcast I am linking to. I am just a big fan of it. - Quinn-

someone posted a link they said they found on the mrclucks site, to www.globespotter.com if you tab tab tab you'll come across hidden links (also listed in the source) and some of the links include these..

http://www.globespotter.com/untitled.bmp <- pic of a plane wreck
http://www.globespotter.com/OWA_Nov2005.jpg <- ad for oceanic

also, i dont know if its related to the original oceanic airlines page, but if you go to http://oceanicworldair.com/ then hit the search button, it brings up this..

Daily scheduled service starts Nov 23, 2005. Flights information will be available on Nov 14, 2005.

oceanic is starting up again?.. heh

jcoltrane

11-10-2005, 03:50 AM

http://www.globespotter.com/untitled.bmp <- pic of a plane wreck

The photo of the plane is probably the plane whose wreckage they hauled out and used for Lost. Scroggins Aviation is mentioned on the photo, which is mentioned as the supplier of the Lost plane on the following French fansite:
http://www.lost-island.net/dossier04.php

lxicon

11-10-2005, 10:05 AM

i found something with the new (broken) 2.gif image at bss1. since it was broken or corrupted i looked at both the old 2.gif and the newer 2.gif

i renamed them 2.gif.txt and 2.broken.gif.txt and opened them both in textpad (or notepade or whatever text editor you use)

i flipped back and forth between the two files while paging through all the "text" looking for differences. and i found only ONE!

from the original : ÅÆwn *there's a scpecial character omitted that messed up the post.
from the broken : beware

here's the updated log entry
2005-11-10 04:02:42 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : Airline Bag (Fly Nigeria Airways - Always) corrupted image: text "beware" added to binary data
audio : none
morse : DOGSTAR
link : http://www.troyland.com/airlinebaglounge.html

--edit--

hmmm now its back to the original 2.gif

# md5sum ./2005-11-*/images/2.gif
1688731c3dcb781ccbdd9c39153c4c68 ./2005-11-09_20.44.14/images/2.gif
cf2a277e7d6fdc819f34eca47a26eb89 ./2005-11-10_04.02.42/images/2.gif
1688731c3dcb781ccbdd9c39153c4c68 ./2005-11-10_11.37.03/images/2.gif

the archived versions are here:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-11-09_20.44.14/images/2.gif
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-11-10_04.02.42/images/2.gif
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bss1.dated/2005-11-10_11.37.03/images/2.gif

mcgrad

11-10-2005, 10:53 AM

lxicon

11-10-2005, 11:44 AM

Lex-- good work yet again on the image!

heh thanks. i'm a bit peeved that it changed back to the non-corrupted version within 30 minutes of my post here. i guess they ARE reading (or maybe just a coincidence)

hopefully someone else got the corrupted version between 4:00 am and 11:30 am. (EST) for verification.

-lxicon

--edit--
well, back to work for me. have fun!

Mithrandir

11-10-2005, 12:53 PM

Woah! How'd you figure out to read and compare the binary datas? O.o
nice find ..

lxicon

11-10-2005, 02:26 PM

Woah! How'd you figure out to read and compare the binary datas? O.o
nice find ..
the file size for both the orig and broken images were the same but the md5sums were different. so i just dragged them both into my text editor and [ctrl]+[tab]'d between the two. i do that often when looking for changes in code i have done. i don't normally do it with binary files, but it worked.

* md5sums are used to check if a file has changed or been corrupted during a download. i've been using them to see if bss1 changes its html or image.

-lxicon

Fuchtherezer

11-10-2005, 04:30 PM

Just something regarding the old morse code of "DogStar"

Sirius is the brightest star in the constellation Canis Major, and is also the brightest star we can see in the northern hemisphere. In addition to these two facts, there are also some interesting tidbits about this star which are less well-known.

The ancient Egyptians called Sirius the 'dog star', after their god Osirus, whose head in pictograms resembled that of a dog. In Egypt, Sirius shines for most of the summer, and since it is such a bright star, the Egyptians actually believed that the additional light from this nearby star was responsible for the summer heat. This of course is not true. However the origin of the phrase 'the dog days of summer' comes from this ancient belief -- the 'dog star' being the root of this common saying!

lxicon

11-10-2005, 04:35 PM

Just something regarding the old morse code of "DogStar"

i saw this neat idea on the television without pity forums:

by : sdPalladio
Today @ 10:48 AM
Just some conjecture, but people use the Dogstar as a directional star. Of course it's not always a reliable method of steering, especially when you lose sight of it. I think the obvious connection here is that Shannon was using Vincent as a compass to Walt, lost sight of him, and ran into...a bullet.

Fuchtherezer

11-10-2005, 04:44 PM

Also just to note on the guy who posted initially about bigspaceship1. He said he did reverse DNS look ups on a bunch of IP adresses, and he posts all of them at the forum: http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2013&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 but when I do the reverse DNS of these IP adresses I get this site called interland001.com, interland002.com etc. etc. Im just wondering why he would lie or maybe change what he says, Im getting surer and surer that this is our guy. Oh and its nothing really but he has 2 posts and he joined at 06 oct which could mean 2FEN06 and also "oct" as in octagon - the shape of the dharma logo.

lxicon thats a good find, hmmm didnt they say mention in some episode of lost of people who used navigate by the stars or something along those lines.

BTW. If the mod ever shuts down this thread let it be at page 108, just for a kinda funny closure thing. lol :D

chaz

11-10-2005, 07:43 PM

We have a change. There is an Indian (as in India) looking logo with snakes. The morse reads "A DOG IS AN ANIMAL AND AN ANIMAL IS A DOG" It redirects to

http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/haeckel/kunstformen/natur.html

Which is a website dedicated to Ernst Haeckel:
Kunstformen der Natur
1899-1904

Edit: The site seems to be in German

hmmm

11-10-2005, 08:22 PM

now it says "a dog is a man and a man is a dog" Vincent maybe?

bigassfan

11-10-2005, 08:23 PM

I think it is an octopus...8 legs, and the center looks like some sort of mouth.

Hey...sorry to be off topic...but some site had the jungle whispers translated, and I was wondering if anyone knew any whereabouts of the audio files to hear them. Transcripts can be found here http://www.lostlinks.net/whispers.htm

Thanks.

lxicon

11-10-2005, 08:44 PM

now it says "a dog is a man and a man is a dog" Vincent maybe?

actually i got "A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG" (note the "is aN man")

chaz did you use a morse code translator like this one:
http://www.omnicron.com/~ford/java/NMorse.html
-or did you do that by hand? i got my morse code at 9:01 that was only 20 minutes or so after your post. could the code have changed in that time?

as for the pic: it's a pretty good guess that its an Ernst Haeckel nature illustration. maybe some form of plankton or tiny sea creature. i looked through all 100 of the plates they had up at that site and did a google image search for "Haeckel" and couldn't find that exact image.

at any rate, this is my log entry:
2005-11-10 20:43:00 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : Ernst Haeckel nature illustration
audio : none
morse : A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG
link : http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/haeckel/kunstformen/natur.html

and bigassfan do some searches on the threads. i haven't looked for the audio files myself yet.

chaz

11-10-2005, 08:48 PM

actually i got "A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG" (note the "is aN man")

chaz did you use a morse code translator like this one:
http://www.omnicron.com/~ford/java/NMorse.html
-or did you do that by hand? i got my morse code at 9:01 that was only 20 minutes or so after your post. could the ocde have changed in that time?

Lex
I used a translator. It changed very quickly. The boarder on the pic also looks as if it has changed.
I also went thru all 100. I could not find the actual pic but there are some that are close.

I also found an interesting article outlining what is known as "Haeckel's Hoax". His most famous illustration was faked!

http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2049

Lost Mirage

11-10-2005, 08:50 PM

Googled Ernst Haeckel, kinda interesting stuff. Checked out this one site and this popped out at me: "Haeckel instead believed that the environment acted directly on organisms, producing new races (a version of Lamarckism). The survival of the races did depend on their interaction with the environment, a weak form of natural selection."

lxicon

11-10-2005, 08:58 PM

Lex
I used a translator. It changed very quickly. The boarder on the pic also looks as if it has changed.
I also went thru all 100. I could not find the actual pic but there are some that are close.

yeah some that were really close. but the link must be to give credit to the 101-year-dead naturalist artist. those people who did scientific illustrations were pretty damn good. i've always been impressed at the detail and beauty of most hand drawn scientific illustrations. if you haven't checked out some of the illustrations at the linked site http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/haeckel/kunstformen/liste.html i suggest you have a look. (the links "Tafel 001" to "Tafel 100" are the plates, the others seem to be text of the publications)

any way chaz, if you got different morse code at 8:40 and we now have the " A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG" up now. i wonder if i should make a second entry.... i don't like logging second hand data that i'm not reasonably certain about. i think i'll change the the timestamp to 9:01 with the current morse code. if i can get a secondary confirmation of the other morse then i'll add a second log entry for the 8:40 incarnation (no offense)

oh, and i doubt the dotted border changed. it's been set with a style sheet entry that has been the same for each of these new versions:
img {
border: 1px dotted #FFF;
padding:30px;
}
(or maybe it was different and whoever did the update noticed the img border and the morse needed correcting)

I also found an interesting article outlining what is known as "Haeckel's Hoax". His most famous illustration was faked!
hmm... that IS interesting (and a bit troubling)

--edit--

i must remember the term Lamarckism i like it.

-lxicon

chaz

11-10-2005, 09:12 PM

Someone found this earlier than me. Found this on ABC.com board.

Posted: Nov 10 @ 05:50 PM
by: lpilker (220 Posts in the last 90 days) Registered: Sep 20, 2005
new stuff today (?)...

the morse code sez "a dog is an animal and an animal is a dog"

and the link is to a website with art about sea life...
http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/haeckel/kunstformen/natur.html

Hey Lex do you think they are just waiting for this board to find this stuff?

lxicon

11-10-2005, 09:19 PM

Someone found this earlier than me. Found this on ABC.com board.
...
Hey Lex do you think they are just waiting for this board to find this stuff?

ok, so a second confirmation on the morse. cool. you didn't get the image that was used eh? i hope it wasn't different than the current one.

i think they are reading the threads. i was suprised when the corrupted 2.gif with the "beware" text in it got taken down 30 minutes after my post about it. i don't know what they are doing. i DO remember that there were a few mistakes that went "live" with the flash versions of the site and they got corrected pretty quick.

ok, now i DO have to get some stuff done. back later.

--edit--

*oh and that wasn't before you, the abc/LOST forum is on pacific time, so 5:50 pm is 8:50 here.*

-lxicon

chaz

11-10-2005, 09:26 PM

ok, so a second confirmation on the morse. cool. you didn't get the image that was used eh? i hope it wasn't different than the current one.

The image is the same. I just have a feeling that the boarder was different. I may be wrong.

I'm also signing off for the night. Later

fleetmaster

11-10-2005, 11:38 PM

Real quick observation...

The drawing has eight of everything... and 16 of the feelers next to the "four leaf clover"

also, on the site, tafel #16 has the original drawing in the top left corner (#3). Doing more research.

*edit*

jellyfish?
"pegantha"

the text doc says "aeginura myosura"

*edit*
"Description of new craspedoter medusen from the gulf of Nice. Jenai magazine for medicine and natural science. Bd1. P. 325-342"
from www.biologie.de/w/index.php/Ernst_Haeckel

That's about as much info as I'll probably be able to gather with poor knowlede of german/biology/web stuff..

and if and what that has to do with anything? Maybe sleep will solve all the problems...

tanpancho

11-11-2005, 12:30 AM

Hello !!!

I've a lot of interest about bss1 same weeks ago.

Everybody know 1.gif and 2.gif, but have you try whit #3?

Sorry!!!!!

Edited: I want say weeks, not years.

bye!!!!

http://bigspaceship1.com/images/3.gif

http://bigspaceship1.com/images/3.gif

shred

11-11-2005, 01:39 AM

It looks like your site is updating again, huh? I'll come back to visit you again when you pass your 1500 post mark.

lxicon

11-11-2005, 02:27 AM

...on the site, tafel #16 has the original drawing in the top left corner (#3). Doing more research.
*edit*
"Description of new craspedoter medusen from the gulf of Nice. Jenai magazine for medicine and natural science. Bd1. P. 325-342"
from www.biologie.de/w/index.php/Ernst_Haeckel

NICE work! i don't know how i missed that when i scanned the pages. i must not have been paying enough attention.

I'm not sure it DOES mean anything, but if we didn't know what it was, we'd be second guessing ourselves. also, with this extra data, some other piece of info that we might otherwise overlook, could stand out.
* The Gulf of Nice is in the south of france.

i got the 'puter doing defrags, so i'll probably not be back on tonight.
have fun!

-lxicon

--edit--

i cropped the high quality version of the source plate 'cause that site is pretty slow:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.ernst.haeckel.nature.illustratio n.source.images.3.gif

tanpancho

11-11-2005, 08:10 AM

Hello again!!!!

In Spain 15:00 (GMT+1)

I come from bss1, and it's changed again!!!!!!!

cod. morse: .- / -.. --- --. / .. ... / .- -. / -- .- -. / .- -. -.. / .- / -- .- -. / .. ... / .- / -.. --- --. = A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG

Redirección http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/haeckel/kunstformen/natur.html

Without audio

bye!!!!!

fleetmaster

11-11-2005, 08:37 AM

After a little sleep, I rememberd all the Frenchness in Lost, esp Rousseau... the Science Researcher.

My only other thought is that maybe these updates will be increasingly harder to find the refrence: 1 was on the first page, 2 took a little search but still pretty obvious, 3 found by playing "the numbers" game and squinting. 4 will probably take a bloodhound and the ESP my grandma gets when she gets overzealous on the inhailer.

BTW: Thanks, lex. It was actually my girlfriend who saw it.

tanpancho

11-11-2005, 09:11 AM

Hello again

1.- I think, that now they're *.gif's, not *.swf (flash)
2.- Of course, a gif image hasen't audio, but the autor can put it on html code
3.- Why doesn't put a crazy (distorsioned) music?
4.- The bigger activity it's near at a new chapter

bye

PS: I'm sorry for my poor English

TheDude

11-11-2005, 09:24 AM

http://draves.org/pix/kdn/gen/radial/narcomedusae%201%20copy.small.jpg

http://www.ville-ge.ch/musinfo/mhng/hydrozoa/narco/narcomedusae.htm

tanpancho

11-11-2005, 09:38 AM

Sorry for the new post!

But I found this http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1273192 ¿¿¿ABC???

oh!, It isn't Vincent!!! (hi)

Fraslet

11-11-2005, 11:04 AM

It's changed again!

Now it's a North Korean propaganda image.

Links to: http://www.dprkstudies.org/documents/nkpics/1pg108a.html

page 108, the title of thie image is - At a mining operation.

The actual image itself is http://www.dprkstudies.org/documents/nkpics/1pg074.html

title - With Kim Ch’aek, manufacturer of domestic firearms.

Morse code still says "A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG"

Killocke

11-11-2005, 11:23 AM

why oh why do i read this thread everyday???

and yes, it did change, i noticed that about 15 minutes ago BTW, for those that are logging this.

dont

11-11-2005, 11:29 AM

the origin of the current picture is here
http://www.dprkstudies.org/documents/nkpics/1pg074.html
edit: freslet already posted this

and i couldn't find anything embeddded in it (4.gif).
the border is different but I think it's just an effect of the manipulations that s/he does to get the trademark pixelated effect, and probably all derive from the same one.

TheDude

11-11-2005, 11:32 AM

I couldnt find anything with it in photoshop either.

Dukefrukem

11-11-2005, 11:36 AM

A Dog Is An Man And A Man Is A Dog?

dont

11-11-2005, 11:40 AM

i wonder if the "puzzle" here is from the series of images, rather than the single images themselves

TheDude

11-11-2005, 11:43 AM

that what I was thinking

TheDude

11-11-2005, 11:44 AM

Dukefrukem

11-11-2005, 11:46 AM

and the phrases... they MUST mean something

Dukefrukem

11-11-2005, 12:12 PM

Hello again

I've found this link about the morse code http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1273192
The only conexion is ABC news?
bye

??????????????:confused:

dont

11-11-2005, 01:01 PM

Hello again

I've found this link about the morse code http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1273192
The only conexion is ABC news?
bye

didn't you just posted this same (not particularly relevant) link 10 posts ago?
every contribution is appreciated, but please don't spam the thread

lxicon

11-11-2005, 03:10 PM

Well we know that Hanso was an arms dealer of sorts....
oh yeah! i didn't piece that together: he's a "munitions magnate".

...and kim is obviously korean, but south korean.... Hurley to Sun : "so, is that in the good korea or the bad korea?" - "the good one"

here's my log entry:
2005-11-11 11:54:19 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : Art of Propaganda: Kim Il Sung and Kim Ch`aek (Pg74)
audio : none
morse : A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG
link : http://www.dprkstudies.org/documents/nkpics/1pg108a.html (Pg 108)

it seems like Numbers are being used to decide on some of the content:
1.gif
pic : Flying Mobula (4th image down on linked site)

2.gif
pic : Airline Bag (Fly Nigeria Airways - Always) (8th image on africa page)

3.gif
pic : Ernst Haeckel nature illustration (tafel #16)

4.gif
link : http://www.dprkstudies.org/documents/nkpics/1pg108a.html (Pg 108)

TheDude

11-11-2005, 03:26 PM

wow! your very observant

MrFunnyMan

11-11-2005, 05:10 PM

This is being discussed in the Alver Hanso Website official discussion

http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=16070

Check page 3 for some interesting discoveries

Fuchtherezer

11-11-2005, 05:45 PM

I think maybe the guy who is updating Bss1 is giving links to the location of the photos he is using just for credit and or legal purposes, cuz most of these links are usless in a Lost point of view, especially IMO the one thats there now.

scullygirl818

11-11-2005, 05:52 PM

lxicon I am posting this here because since you have been decoding all this stuff maybe you know (or if someone else does that's great too)

Does anyone know must about javascript? I used a webgrabber tool and downloaded the javascript code from the login at the dharma site and its the prog to check it but maybe there is a way to reverse it or something?

PS if this posts twice i apologize it didn't work the first time

Hit_theroad_Jak

11-11-2005, 06:34 PM

Hello, new here. Just finished reading it all. This is all very intruiging indeed.

Don't know if you know...but the Links page on http://www.mrclucks.com : http://www.mrclucks.com/links.html contains a direct link to BSS1 under the name of 'HQ: Sector 3 of 6'.

Soz if I'm being dumb and this has been said. I didnt see it anywhere on here though and I noticed it some time ago.

Hello everyone btw! :tiphat:

siggisplendid

11-11-2005, 08:03 PM

hahaha, Einar Ragnarsson, that's an Icelandic name! :)

fleetmaster

11-11-2005, 09:16 PM

Also probably nothing:

Kim Il Sung was born on April 15, died on July 8

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Il_Sung

scullygirl818

11-11-2005, 09:59 PM

The only thing about bss1 that makes me mad, is no matter what we figure out about the site, we really have no way of knowing if any of the connections we make are correct. Then again this person could just be doing this to see how long we look at the site and pay attention to it and to drive us crazy. I think it would be nice if there were hints on the site letting us know if we are in the right direction (whether or not the clues have anything to do with what is going to happen in lost is another story though).

fleetmaster

11-12-2005, 02:12 AM

Weird... Just for kicks, looked up Haeckel's B-day and D-Day:
Feb 16 - August 8...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Haeckel

Can't imagine I'd find anything with the first two links, but we're crazy and we'll check..

Fraslet

11-12-2005, 11:09 AM

It's changed again!

The gas mask pic is back and there are several sound files playing over each other! Actually it's the same file starting up again and again, difficult to listen to when a few are running.

Back to flash again - 5.swf

Morse code still says "A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG"

lxicon

11-12-2005, 11:34 AM

nice one Fraslet, that's a few in row you found eh?

2005-11-12 12:26:32 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : 3-d gas mask
audio : (error loop) Magnet and Steel by Walter Egan appears on Walter Egan's Not Shy (1978)
morse : A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG
link : none

that flash file is an error that was only up for a little while on 2005-10-13 from 00:21:00 to 01:23:00 and then again from 15:15:00 to 15:25:00 (EST) it's the same song getting restarted without the other one being stopped. if you listen long enough all the versions stop one at a time like a round. pretty odd.
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.3-d.gas.mask.magnet.and.steel.lost.error.loop.swf

# md5sum ./2005-10-13_00.21.00/lost.swf
d784dec5aa30ac09133c58f1a7c426c3 ./2005-10-13_00.21.00/lost.swf
# md5sum ./2005-11-12_12.26.32/images/5.swf
d784dec5aa30ac09133c58f1a7c426c3 ./2005-11-12_12.26.32/images/5.swf

--edit--

the html is definitly hand edited. there are a few errors in the html like a missing </body> and for some reason they've thrown in a bunch of "<br />" which i don't even think do anything?

...still having a look...

Fraslet

11-12-2005, 11:43 AM

Yup! I'm intrigued and ever so nosey u see :D

There's a name for when the song gets restarted, I think it's called "a round" or "a canon", it's the sort of thing parents get subjected to at school plays and the like.

tanpancho

11-12-2005, 11:46 AM

Hello

The new vversion is The gas mask, yes, and the morse cose the kwnew "A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG", ok.
And the music we know also, it's "magnet and steel".

We can say that the audio starts in frame #1, and it's repeat ever 10 frames (10, 20, 30, ....and the last 220). In the frame 330 there is a "stop all sounds".

Other curiosity is that ever 10 frames there are a new "layer". Ever the gas mask

bye!

__________________________________________

I'm sorry, we write at same time!!!!

lxicon

11-12-2005, 11:59 AM

We can say that the audio starts in frame #1, and it's repeat ever 10 frames (10, 20, 30, ....and the last 220). In the frame 330 there is a "stop all sounds".

Other curiosity is that ever 10 frames there are a new "layer". Ever the gas mask

i was wondering how that worked. i know macromedia director but never bothered to learn flash. i figured it was something like that.

apparently the "stop all sounds" isn't working. it's not stpping them all at once, unless they were all on loop until the stop command then each one ends 10 frames apart?

--edit--

oh, and YAY audio is back!

--edit--

one other thing. if you leave it up after all the music stops, they start again after a while.

Einar Ragnarsson

11-12-2005, 12:02 PM

Omg, That name..Einar Ragnarsson is an Icelandic name :confused:

Trying to find out what he did and who he was !

tanpancho

11-12-2005, 12:38 PM

OK!
I think that flash is more easy than Director. but I'm "learning" still.
And after "stop all sounds" haven't loop. We can see the image, and the file is finnish.

In same Spanish fourm they're also a lot of people with the same questions about bss1. It's a global mystery !!!!

.

lxicon

11-12-2005, 12:40 PM

morse changed again:

2005-11-12 13:38:44 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : 3-d gas mask
audio : (error loop) Magnet and Steel by Walter Egan appears on Walter Egan's Not Shy (1978)
morse : TRIMISLANDCAT
link : none

--edit--

odd to have a few morse in a row:

A DOG IS AN MAN AND A MAN IS A DOG
GAZE HIGH AT MIDNIGHT
TRIMISLANDCAT

it's changing like cats and dogs here! heehee.

--edit--

and tanpancho the file doesn't finish after the music stops. it starts up again after a few minutes.

Fraslet

11-12-2005, 12:47 PM

Okay look at how long it has been between changes today:

4, 8 ......

Okay it's 64 then 8 really, getting my hopes up a bit there.

My name is Fraslet and I have bss1 fever.

lxicon

11-12-2005, 12:53 PM

i check randomly, so my times are not accurate for the time of the change, just when i first saw them. sometimes i'm checking a few hours apart.

so what the hell does TRIMISLANDCAT mean?

TRIM ISLAND CAT
TRIM IS LAND CAT (heehee: the "air cats" are probably timmer, but "sea cats" might not be as trim)

Fraslet

11-12-2005, 12:57 PM

I had thought it might be an anagram, but can't find anything "useful".

tanpancho

11-12-2005, 12:59 PM

I don't understand "trim" it's careful? danger?

lxicon

11-12-2005, 01:02 PM

I don't understand "trim" it's careful? danger?

trim has a few meanings:

it can mean "fit" as opposed to "fat" (my joke about "air cats" and "sea cats" used this meaning)

in sailing you trim the sails to bring them into the wind

it can mean cutting off then end of something like trimming your hair or trimming then end of a ribbon.

kafka7723

11-12-2005, 01:05 PM

very interesting if you google trim island cat

Fraslet

11-12-2005, 01:05 PM

Hmm hadn't thought of the other possible meanings of trim at all, but there are:

a) Attitude of an aircraft in flight when allowed to take its own orientation
b) Balance in flight by regulating the control surfaces
c) Be in equilibrium during a flight

lxicon

11-12-2005, 01:07 PM

yeah there are LOTS
http://m-w.com/dictionary/trim

there are a few meanings for it as a verb, adjective, adverb and noun and even a city in east ireland.

-you learn something new everyday, that's why i get up in the morning

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those words are very common which throws off the google searches. i tried it with quotes to be sure to get all the words in that order with 0 results each

"trim island cat"
"trim is land cat"
"trimislandcat"

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you do get results for a search of +trim +island +cat but that's not too suprising and might not mean anything.
i like this one http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/conWebDoc.2575/setPaginate/No
web pages for 5-7 year olds!

kafka7723

11-12-2005, 01:13 PM

tanpancho

11-12-2005, 01:24 PM

Ok! thanks for the "school", and also by patience!
Yes I search "island cat" "land cat" ....but anything

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http://m-w.com/dictionary/trim I didn't know this site. It's good = audio!!!

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/con...setPaginate/No
and
http://members.westnet.com.au/web/tcentre/trim.htm A child story? !!!!!

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0029-5515/32/11/I11

This computer is not registered for access to articles in our Historic Archive

lxicon

11-12-2005, 01:32 PM

try it without the quotes... trim island cat
the second and third google hits are VERY interesting...

i don't know how to do a link, sorry...k, i figured it out

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&client=safari&rls=en&q=trim+island+cat&btnG=Search

http://members.westnet.com.au/web/tcentre/trim.htm

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0029-5515/32/11/I11

hey! my link to the web page for 5-7 year olds must be the kids version of your westnet link:
"MATTHEW Flinders is best known for his remarkable voyages around the shores of Australia. These notes are adapted from his papers and diaries kept in the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich and tell of his faithful and intelligent companion "Trim" on the voyages between 1799 to 1803"

-could be a reference to vincent as the dog version of trim?
http://members.westnet.com.au/web/tcentre/Trim.JPG

-lxicon

kafka7723

11-12-2005, 01:36 PM

uote:
This computer is not registered for access to articles in our Historic Archive

i changed the link, i founf one that works

Control of magnetic islands with horizontal field trim coils in a low aspect ratio torsatron

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0029-5515/32/11/I11

its the third link on the google search

lxicon

11-12-2005, 01:39 PM

uote:
This computer is not registered for access to articles in our Historic Archive

i changed the link, i founf one that works

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0029-5515/32/11/I11

its the third link on the google search

anyone have an IOP membership for the full text? i don't see the word "cat" in the abstract but it's there in the google summary.

kafka7723

11-12-2005, 01:41 PM

i think you haveto be a nuclear scientist

lxicon

11-12-2005, 01:44 PM

i think you haveto be a nuclear scientist
there is a section for registering.. i'll give it a go.

(aside) heehee, audio of the kids version of the trim the cat story:
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/upload/mp3/Trim_The_Cat_5_7yr_v1.mp3

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bummer looks like the "individual access" registration doesn't do squat to access that file:
Control of magnetic islands with horizontal field trim coils in a low aspect ratio torsatron
C.B. Brooks, R.F. Gandy, J.D. Hanson, G.J. Hartwell, M.A. Henderson and S.F. Knowlton 1992 Nucl. Fusion 32 2001-7 doi:10.1088/0029-5515/32/11/I11

* now i see the "This computer is not registered for access to articles in our Historic Archive" mnessage

oh well. it does seem interesting but i don't know if thats what the morse code was refering to.

-lxicon

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i gotta do some stuff as well. i'll check back later.
have fun!

tanpancho

11-12-2005, 01:54 PM

Control of magnetic islands with horizontal field trim coils in a low aspect ratio torsatron
It's a very ineresting !!!

Ok dudes, I must go to house my fathers-in-law to have supper !!!!
They're 21:00 here. I come after midnigth !

bye

waikiki

11-12-2005, 02:41 PM

Well in playing with everything.......The oceanic air link gives you the ability to set reservations.....Do the res. for today...It comes up as a chart.....one of the x's is underlined.....when you click...sends you to dharma;s web and asks for same login as before.......:(

siggisplendid

11-12-2005, 03:10 PM

Anyone of you hear of the book "The Mysterious Island" by Jules Verne? ...

http://www.online-literature.com/verne/mysteriousisland/

"A hot-air balloon carrying five passengers and a dog escapes from Richmond, Va., during the American Civil War. It is blown off course and deposited near an obscure island."

Maybe not much connection to Lost but I found it when I was looking for Joop the orangutan (http://thehansofoundation.org/lep.html). Apparently the castaways in "The Mysterious Island" come in contact with Master Joop which is an orangutan. :)

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yeah, off topic, sorry. posted it again in the other section:)