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umdxc
10-14-2005, 01:58 PM
ok...now there's a little black box, in front of a red background..the music overplaying sounds like a sped up version of a song, similar to "alvin and the chipmunks"....

these writers are fantastic..the song is from a band called Creosote called "i made a wish upon a satellite".....and what was the album name, pratell??

You guessed it...BLACKSMOKE!!!

Jed
10-14-2005, 02:01 PM
Too funny. Well we shouldn't be surprised... it's there business to do this stuff.

lxicon
10-14-2005, 02:01 PM
the song is from a band called Creosote called "i made a wish upon a satellite".....and what was the album name, pratell??

You guessed it...BLACKSMOKE!!!

thanks i hadn't looked up the artist.

oh and here's the hiden text http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.satellite.hidden.noaa.gif

Jason Frost
10-14-2005, 02:12 PM
I have a pop-up after the music end...
Link of this pop-up:
http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliates/download/?itmsUrl=itms%3A%2F%2Fax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuit e.net%2FWebObjects%2FMZStore.woa%2Fwa%2FviewAlbum% 3FplaylistId%3D68614627%26s%3D143441%26i%3D6861416 4%26ign_mscache%3D1

Jed
10-14-2005, 02:35 PM
thanks i hadn't looked up the artist.

oh and here's the hiden text http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.satellite.hidden.noaa.gif


Interesting. NOAA is a weather satellite. BTW... that's not what the NOAA sat looks like.

Lost Mirage
10-14-2005, 02:42 PM
Morse code: "Be positive Think Negative" :)


What kind of box is that?

silverswood
10-14-2005, 04:03 PM
Was there not a site that neede a user name and password ? could this be them (would try myself but i cant remember where it was) probably too obvious but worth a try imo.

lxicon
10-14-2005, 04:06 PM
Was there not a site that neede a user name and password ? could this be them (would try myself but i cant remember where it was) probably too obvious but worth a try imo.

you probably meant the secure version of the bigspaceship1.com site
https://bigspaceship1.com/ (note the s in https)

i wouldn't mess with that. on some servers; too many failed attempts can trigger servers to blacklist your ip then you wont be able to get anything after that.

bigassfan
10-14-2005, 04:23 PM
Hmm...with the apple pop-up at the end and the sometimes the immediate redirection to the apple page...makes me think this is some scheme for Apple, especially with their announcement of providing LOST episodes on the new video ipod. Since apple would be a commercial sponsor, they would be able to hop on the official ABC Hanso site and have a link to theirs.

Sneaky bastards!

Rocher Noir
10-14-2005, 04:32 PM
Yeah, this looks more and more like a viral marketing campaign!
This would be quite disapointing!

lxicon
10-14-2005, 04:34 PM
at the start i was only taking screen caps and recording the audio from the soundcard output. did anyone save the actual .swf files that i can get access to. the hidden text in the image pallets didn't come through when i did a screen cap.

i need :
the lost.swf with the optical illusion and the rodent revolution audio

the lost.swf with 3 red polar bears and any of these audio ("rodent revolutio" OR "bi-polar polar bear" )

the lost.swf with big red rabbit head on white bg and the rodent revolution audio

my cached version are available at http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/

got them. thanks all

sing_4themoment
10-14-2005, 04:54 PM
weird...NOAA is also provide fisheries services http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/
or how about their weather radio? http://www.weather.gov/nwr/

could be related to the transmitter...

Jason Frost
10-14-2005, 05:07 PM
at the start i was only taking screen caps and recording the audio from the soundcard output. did anyone save the actual .swf files that i can get access to. the hidden text in the image pallets didn't come through when i did a screen cap.

i need :
the lost.swf with the optical illusion and the rodent revolution audio

the lost.swf with 3 red polar bears and any of these audio ("rodent revolutio" OR "bi-polar polar bear" )

the lost.swf with big red rabbit head on white bg and the rodent revolution audio

my cached version are available at http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/

This can help you:

http://www.lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27076&d=1129138268
http://www.lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27077&d=1129138390
http://www.lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27078&d=1129138390
http://www.lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27079&d=1129138477
http://www.lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27080&d=1129138477

jl234
10-14-2005, 05:14 PM
Here's something else I found, not sure if it means anything or not, but here goes.

We've all seen that Matthew Bardram owns the site, at least according to WHOIS. So I did a quick google search for that name and found a person of that same name at www.atomicmedia.net (http://www.atomicmedia.net). I was trying to find something about a location for that company to relate that to the zip code given on WHOIS. I clicked all around but didn't find anything with a location. While on the the news page, I clicked a link for this "Newsfeed via typographi.com (http://typographi.com)." On the main page of typographi.com is a link to iPodNews. I found it strange that a site about fonts would have a link to iPodNews front and center on their main page. I know the other day that bigspaceship1 was redirecting traffic to that same site. The title on iPodNews says "iPodNews.com | iPod News updated every 108 minutes."

I'm beginning to think this is may be similar to the ilovebees with Halo 2.

lxicon
10-14-2005, 05:24 PM
This can help you:

http://www.lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27076&d=1129138268
http://www.lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27077&d=1129138390
http://www.lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27078&d=1129138390
http://www.lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27079&d=1129138477
http://www.lost-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27080&d=1129138477

thanks, i got those first thing from this thread when i found the thread through a google search. i'd really like the lost.swf files though.

UconnHuskies22
10-14-2005, 05:25 PM
anyone else think the guy who made this site is watching us and laughing his ass off as he plays with us

LOST_the_plot
10-14-2005, 05:26 PM
This site is weird... the music is funny, makes me laugh, but I have ot doubt whether this is official or not...

Oh I have a theory about that 2FENO6 (sorry if this has been said before... I read through some threads and didn't see it)

It looks like a chemical symbol. Fe is Iron, N is Nitrogen and O is Oxygen. Or No for Nobelium... so maybe Dharma or something was working on a new kind of element? lol... yeah... I know... it's stupid.

GAH... I have that chipmunk version of whatever song is playing on there stuck in my head! XD

lxicon
10-14-2005, 05:41 PM
anyone else think the guy who made this site is watching us and laughing his ass off as he plays with us

there seems to be as viral marketing aspect creeping into it lately. it could be that the site started generating so much traffic that they decided to capitalize on it. (one of the morse codes was "TAKINGMOREHITSTHANSAWYEREVERWILL" heehee.

if it's just a hoax then the person doing it has to keep updating or we'll all get bored. and i think the collective curiosity of all of us checking the site will outlast him if it is just a hoax. -would you want to keep creating new content every day for over a week now?

-mind you, if they read this post it might steel their resolve.

Roofus
10-14-2005, 06:14 PM
ok...now there's a little black box, in front of a red background..the music overplaying sounds like a sped up version of a song, similar to "alvin and the chipmunks"....

these writers are fantastic..the song is from a band called Creosote called "i made a wish upon a satellite".....and what was the album name, pratell??

You guessed it...BLACKSMOKE!!!

Creosote is a chemical found in beachwood. It is carciginic and can cause skin cancer.

Without proper treatment, I wonder if an extreme case of skin cancer would look much like leprosy...or "zombie" i.e. "Life Challenged" from the script.

iusedtohavealife
10-14-2005, 06:58 PM
Ok guys - I spent most of my afternoon reading through these 46 pages of posts (yeah my username says it all) and I have a few thoughts.

If I were a betting man I would bet quite a bit of money that this site is not related to ABC and it is indeed a prank.

I know it's been said before but let's not forget that there is no terms of use link. Why would the other ABC sites have it and this one not? Legal departments are pretty crazy about this sort of thing and I would be very suprised if they would make an exception for this site.

Also it's being updated too much. Way too much! If it were a legit site for the show they would be paying out the arse for all of these updates - do you think they would waste that kind of money for a site that doesn't even make sense? Also they would want to give people a chance to see these things if they were real clues. Changing it several times in a 15 minute span would only realitically be done to screw with us - that's a fact even if it is the head producer of Lost doing it himself! But I don't buy it - this has to be a fake.

But it's connected to an actual abc site you say. Well yes - apparently it is. All I know is:

A) Sites can be hacked - and perhaps the abc owned site was hacked - and www.bigspaceship1.com on the security page is the only thing they changed.

B) Bigspaceship1.com apparently has ties to a web developer or a group of web developers. If ABC used outside sources to create content the people they hired could have hidden this little clue and used it as a joke - and it has nothing to do with the actual writers of the show.

I'm not saying any of this isn't fun. I'm going to keep refreshing the page and checking back here for new theories. But I think we should assume it is fake until proven otherwise.

And proof I hope to find - I'm going to e-mail abc and see if they are aware of the site. Perhaps the link will be taken off of the abc owned site once I write them.

kiko
10-14-2005, 07:17 PM
Ok guys - I spent most of my afternoon reading through these 46 pages of posts (yeah my username says it all) and I have a few thoughts.

If I were a betting man I would bet quite a bit of money that this site is not related to ABC and it is indeed a prank.

I know it's been said before but let's not forget that there is no terms of use link. Why would the other ABC sites have it and this one not? Legal departments are pretty crazy about this sort of thing and I would be very suprised if they would make an exception for this site.

Also it's being updated too much. Way too much! If it were a legit site for the show they would be paying out the arse for all of these updates - do you think they would waste that kind of money for a site that doesn't even make sense? Also they would want to give people a chance to see these things if they were real clues. Changing it several times in a 15 minute span would only realitically be done to screw with us - that's a fact even if it is the head producer of Lost doing it himself! But I don't buy it - this has to be a fake.

But it's connected to an actual abc site you say. Well yes - apparently it is. All I know is:

A) Sites can be hacked - and perhaps the abc owned site was hacked - and www.bigspaceship1.com on the security page is the only thing they changed.

B) Bigspaceship1.com apparently has ties to a web developer or a group of web developers. If ABC used outside sources to create content the people they hired could have hidden this little clue and used it as a joke - and it has nothing to do with the actual writers of the show.

I'm not saying any of this isn't fun. I'm going to keep refreshing the page and checking back here for new theories. But I think we should assume it is fake until proven otherwise.

And proof I hope to find - I'm going to e-mail abc and see if they are aware of the site. Perhaps the link will be taken off of the abc owned site once I write them.

Great way to argue the site being legit!! Very great points. And u should email them because they would not lie and they for sure would be pissed if it wasnt a real site which in that case they would take it off...

Another point I have..
the bigspaceship1.com site is linked from the other dharma site..NOT the original one...Meaning this space guy could of just made another web page with the dharma name just so it will mislead us..

DykeZuki
10-14-2005, 07:35 PM
ABC doesn't need to have a Disclaimer for this site... afterall we basically hacked our way thru to it. So they won't be resposible for anything that is transmitted, legally... right?

HTTPS - Using the secure server for the Hanso site which does have a Terms of Use Link... That makes it Officially Unofficial to me. Did they send us there... um not really but they did show us the way... I believe that video link on the Hanso site is not working for a reason!!! They knew someone would decompile or hack their way thru... Looking for the Video. They are feeding us information which make make sense later on, actually most of it makes sense now. Yes, it sublimnal marketing as well, just like the Ipod and just like Desmond's old Apple 2 computer, which still works BTW, being what 2 decades old now? Talk about reliability!

THIS WAS LOCATED THRU THE HANSO SITE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE PROPERLY OWNED BY ABC... So is it real? They seem to be giving too many hints to us for it not to be real! And we are the Bunnies and Mice!

I am just wondering about the 800 number, and whether ABC set that up too? I feel sorry for the guy on the Rabbitt Farm, but not really because they seem to be using the rabbitts for animal testing??? Frik that!

Peace, Love and Chicken Grease!

lxicon
10-14-2005, 07:49 PM
Also it's being updated too much. Way too much! If it were a legit site for the show they would be paying out the arse for all of these updates - do you think they would waste that kind of money for a site that doesn't even make sense?

its true that noone has proven a link to abc/lost but noone has disproved it with the same authority. i'm still at a toss up but obviously i'm still pressing the button -the reload button that is.

here are two points to concider:

1) if it was an official abc site they would not be able to change the content so frequently. they'd need to go threough channels. (you know how they say it takes IBM 6 months to ship a an empty box.) so having it be unofficial lets them bypass those restrictions. and having the content change radomly has a psychological effect on conditioned stimulus-response learning curves (wow psych 101 pays off for once!)
- more people refreshing opens up viral marketing strategies. note the pop up link to itunes in the entry:
2005-10-14 16:10:00 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/ AND http://www.bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : 64.207.186.80
pic : satelite + hidden text noaa in first pallete entry
audio : I Made A Wish Upon A Satellite by Creosote album : Blacksmoke
morse : BE POSITIVE THINK NEGATIVE
link : getURL("http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=68614627&s=143441&i=68614164","new")
if the site isn't linked to abc/lost i'd be suprised if they didn't try to take it over for that alone.

2) i've noticed a few times that a lost.swf file will go up with a more popular song (eq van morrison's want a danish) but it was changed to the black screen heartbeat very soon after. this could reflect some project manager saying "hey we don't have the rights to that!" the older stuff from obscure 60s groups tends to have less restrictions on use. also the fact that the music is sped up can bee seen as work around for DMCA regulations. they aren't posting the real song but a messed up version of it.

iusedtohavealife
10-14-2005, 07:57 PM
ABC doesn't need to have a Disclaimer for this site... afterall we basically hacked our way thru to it. So they won't be resposible for anything that is transmitted, legally... right?

I don't agree - if Disney/ABC owns the site they are responsible for anything on there. We didn't hack our way there - somebody typed in an address into their web browser and a page with the site was there. That's hardly hacking.

Three reasons I think bigspaceship1 MUST be fake:

1. The whois doesn't point to ABC - correct me if I'm wrong but all of the other ABC owned sites do

2. They are using copywritten music on this site - you need rights to that music - are we to believe that they are paying for the right play all of these songs - or that they are transmitting them without having them cleared first?

3. No terms of use - I would be SHOCKED if ABC knowingly had a site out there without a terms of use link. It is a big company - they risk lawsuits every day. There is a reason they have it on all of their sites and no good reason why they would just happen to not have it on this site.

What I am curious about - and maybe some of you who have been around longer than I have can help - is who found the site in the first place? Just think that if this is a prank the person who did it probably went on all of the forums and told them to check out the site. Who was the first person to post on this forum about it - how many posts did they have in the past (if it is their only post that is a dead give away)??? Did they all show up at the same time on various forums with similar wording. Another clue that this is a scam.

I'm keeping an open mind here guys but it doesn't add up for me.

lxicon
10-14-2005, 08:18 PM
What I am curious about - and maybe some of you who have been around longer than I have can help - is who found the site in the first place?

i wasn't the first (i don't think) but i found it on my own once someone pointed me to thehansofoundation.org site. this was on oct 7th. i found the https link AND the two sites were at 66.132.217.121 until bigspaceship1.com moved to 64.207.186.80

i re-did the visual route report the next day and it overwrote the first report, but i haven't printed any other reports since then so the table.txt file in my visual route directory stayed current.

* i edited out the LAN ips you don't need to know them.

this is from my post about about this very topic on the oceanic forum:

on oct 8th, i used visual route on thehansofoundation.org and it came back as as bigspaceship1.com

at that time they were both at the same ip, since then bigspaceship1.com has moved to a new ip. if bigspaceship1.com were contracted to created the hansonfoundation.org website, that could explain how the bigspaceship1.com text got left in the https document root.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 0 | | ########## | ####### | ... | | | | (private use) |
| 1 | | ######## | #### | ... | | 1 | x | (private use) |
| 2 | | 67.69.17.169 | - | | | 4 | x | 67.69.17.0 |
| 3 | | 64.230.194.178 | dis20-toronto12 | | | 19 | -x----- | 64.230.194.0 |
| 4 | | 64.230.233.81 | - | | | 15 | -x---- | 64.230.233.0 |
| 5 | | 64.230.222.21 | - | | | 11 | x- | 64.230.222.0 |
| 6 | | 206.108.103.118 | core2-chicago23-pos10-0.in.bellnexxia.net | Chicago, IL, USA | -6.0 | 29 | -x------- | 206.108.103.0 |
| 7 | | 64.230.203.150 | rtp628550rts | | | 24 | x--- | 64.230.203.0 |
| 8 | | 206.108.108.166 | - | | | 23 | x | 206.108.108.0 |
| 9 | | 205.171.139.149 | cer-core-03.inet.qwest.net | - | | 23 | x | 205.171.139.0 |
| 10 | | | | | | | | |
| 11 | | 205.171.27.42 | fl1-edge-03.inet.qwest.net | - | | 71 | x | 205.171.27.0 |
| 12 | | 65.115.128.14 | - | | | 64 | x | 65.115.128.0 |
| 13 | | 66.132.255.18 | - | | | 64 | x | 66.132.255.0 |
| 14 | | 66.132.217.121 | bigspaceship1.com | | | 63 | x | 66.132.217.0 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VisualRoute Report for thehansofoundation.org produced at 11:51 AM on October 8, 2005.
Roundtrip time to thehansofoundation.org (66.132.217.121) average = 63ms min = 61ms max = 68ms


* oh and i can't prove this obviously. text is text and can be edited. but i didn't edit this.

iusedtohavealife
10-14-2005, 08:19 PM
From the Disney Internet Group Terms of Use:

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, NEGLIGENCE, SHALL WE BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES THAT RESULT FROM THE USE OF, OR THE INABILITY TO USE, ANY WDIG SITE OR MATERIALS OR FUNCTIONS ON ANY SUCH SITE, EVEN IF WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.

They need that in case something crazy might happen - like one of us blows our head off because bigspaceship1 is too damn confusing

leelagbch
10-14-2005, 08:20 PM
3. No terms of use - I would be SHOCKED if ABC knowingly had a site out there without a terms of use link. It is a big company - they risk lawsuits every day. There is a reason they have it on all of their sites and no good reason why they would just happen to not have it on this site.



This is not entirely true - the terms of use in most cases protects their right to sue YOU. If the hold the copyrights to the images and do not care about their use elsewhere, then its not a problem to forgo the TOC.

As to the licensing of music for broadcast etc. by the major networks and their affiliates,

"The ABC, CBS and NBC networks have negotiated blanket license agreements with ASCAP for their network programming. ASCAP and PBS have a blanket license that covers both the network and all PBS affiliates' programming."

This covers royalties for broadcast. Since the music is not in a downloadable form, they are covered and the royalties to ASCAP are already paid.

Lee

rachelmari
10-14-2005, 08:23 PM
So then can someone play around with the images on here http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/
and find out what other hidden messages there are in the dots????? I need to know!!!
Especially the satellite and the gas mask.

lxicon
10-14-2005, 08:24 PM
2. They are using copywritten music on this site - you need rights to that music - are we to believe that they are paying for the right play all of these songs - or that they are transmitting them without having them cleared first?


they are putting out mono sped up version of music, that might be a work around. and there was a van morrison song up for about 15 minutes the other day and it came down quick and was replaced by the black-screen heartbeat file. that could have been because someone complained.

lxicon
10-14-2005, 08:29 PM
So then can someone play around with the images on here http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/
and find out what other hidden messages there are in the dots????? I need to know!!!
Especially the satellite and the gas mask.

i looked. the images with palette.# in the file name are all i found from inside the .swf files. there was an image going around with a map and instrcutions to meet embedded in the white mouse red cheese image. i can't find that version of the image in any of my lost.swf files so i think that one is a hoax. the NOAA text is real though. and i'll be looking for more. as new lost.swf files are posted.

island geek
10-14-2005, 08:31 PM
ABC doesn't need to have a Disclaimer for this site... afterall we basically hacked our way thru to it. So they won't be resposible for anything that is transmitted, legally... right?

HTTPS - Using the secure server for the Hanso site which does have a Terms of Use Link... That makes it Officially Unofficial to me. Did they send us there... um not really but they did show us the way... I believe that video link on the Hanso site is not working for a reason!!! They knew someone would decompile or hack their way thru... Looking for the Video. They are feeding us information which make make sense later on, actually most of it makes sense now. Yes, it sublimnal marketing as well, just like the Ipod and just like Desmond's old Apple 2 computer, which still works BTW, being what 2 decades old now? Talk about reliability!

THIS WAS LOCATED THRU THE HANSO SITE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE PROPERLY OWNED BY ABC... So is it real? They seem to be giving too many hints to us for it not to be real! And we are the Bunnies and Mice!

I am just wondering about the 800 number, and whether ABC set that up too? I feel sorry for the guy on the Rabbitt Farm, but not really because they seem to be using the rabbitts for animal testing??? Frik that!

Peace, Love and Chicken Grease!

sup, dude! I called those poor rabbit-tortureing sucks like 5 more times today!:D
at one point my co-worker actually asked about the RODENT REVOLOUTION,
the man replied " It's a fucking hoax, get over it ! " and hung up .
they sure have some nerve talking to us like that!
I am going to call those cheeky bastards right now and play them the 'satalite song' !:p

island geek
10-14-2005, 08:35 PM
P.S. the number is 1-800-622-6381
give those bunny-nazis hell

lxicon
10-14-2005, 08:43 PM
P.S. the number is 1-800-622-6381
give those bunny-nazis hell

oooh i wouldn't pester the 800 number people. i'm pretty sure that had nothing to do with the bigspaceship1.com site. the morse code that pointed people there (which i never saw by the way) was probably a bad joke to reference the rodent revoltuion.

if the 800 number people complain to abc, they may shut down bigspaceship1.com even if it is an unofficial/official abc site to apease the poor guys who have to pay for the 800 charges.!

DykeZuki
10-14-2005, 08:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey Cluck.. Thanks for letting us take over your site. We are done.. for now... But here is something to keep your customers busy.

A word jumble:

JACK WILL DI- --- ---- -- --- -----!

PSHISEOTINEOHCTNEA

Later!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

"PSHISEOTINEOHCTNEA" an anagram for something???

A CHEESE HINTS POTION
A CHEESE HINT I POST ON!!! LOL

island geek
10-14-2005, 08:46 PM
:) exelent point mate:)
I am haveing too much fun with 'BS1' to jeopardise
the site
I will leave them alone, for now!
:o

DykeZuki
10-14-2005, 08:49 PM
Do you think one geek crated all these websites linking back to each other for only us Freaks (Mice) to find thru tiny hints? I think it would take more than one lonely hacker/designer to propagate all this, I think?

island geek
10-14-2005, 08:49 PM
:) exelent point mate:)
I am haveing too much fun with 'BS1' to jeopardise
the site
I will leave them alone, for now!

:o
(RE. the 800 #)

iusedtohavealife
10-14-2005, 08:50 PM
This is not entirely true - the terms of use in most cases protects their right to sue YOU. If the hold the copyrights to the images and do not care about their use elsewhere, then its not a problem to forgo the TOC.

As to the licensing of music for broadcast etc. by the major networks and their affiliates,

"The ABC, CBS and NBC networks have negotiated blanket license agreements with ASCAP for their network programming. ASCAP and PBS have a blanket license that covers both the network and all PBS affiliates' programming."

This covers royalties for broadcast. Since the music is not in a downloadable form, they are covered and the royalties to ASCAP are already paid.

Lee

Thanks Lee - that's some good info. Do you practice law? I do not but reading through the Terms of Use it seems like they are trying to give themselves a case if they sue you but also in case they get sued.

island geek
10-14-2005, 08:51 PM
Do you think one geek crated all these websites linking back to each other for only us Freaks (Mice) to find thru tiny hints? I think it would take more than one lonely hacker/designer to propagate all this, I think?


I think its a whole team of lonley-hacker-geeks
not unlike ourselves, but probably better educated:rolleyes:

DykeZuki
10-14-2005, 08:54 PM
i looked. the images with pallet.# in the file name are all i found from inside the .swf files. there was an image going around with a map and instrcutions to meet embedded in the white mouse red cheese image. i can't find that version of the image in any of my lost.swf files so i think that one is a hoax. the NOAA text is real though. and i'll be looking for more. as new lost.swf files are posted.
I print screened and used paint on the mouse and cheese thingy and found the Map and Note within all the red dots... Believe me I freaked out when I 1st saw it.

God, what I wouldn't give for a good and proper red gel right about now!

lxicon
10-14-2005, 08:58 PM
I print screened and used paint on the mouse and cheese thingy and found the Map and Note within all the red dots... Believe me I freaked out when I 1st saw it.!

where did you get the image you print screened from? was it posted on a forum or from bigspaceship1.com?

can you do it with any of the versions in my archive?

i DID find the text & map in the Image_6.bmp from the images2.zip that someone posted on a forum but i have no idead where that came from originally.

DykeZuki
10-14-2005, 09:30 PM
When I went to the BigSpaceShip1 for the 1st time it was the only SWF playing at the time and for the next 2 hours! before I gave up on it and went to sleep. I just did a Print Screen to copy the SWF PIC and Pasted into PAINT Program. After that I just kept fiddling with the colors.

The Note and Map do not give a Specific Date to meet. Maybe we should all meet there for the season finale! LOL

Let me try it from your source and see if I can get it... I am not at home though. I think someone gave specific COLOR Information somewhere earlier in the thread... HAHA GOOD LUCK!

bigassfan
10-14-2005, 09:46 PM
Check this out!

http://www.uen.org/swan/argos.html

Way too many coincidences! Holy crap this is freakin me out!

108 minutes...satellite...swan!?

ekl44fe
10-14-2005, 09:57 PM
I am just wondering about the 800 number, and whether ABC set that up too? I feel sorry for the guy on the Rabbitt Farm, but not really because they seem to be using the rabbitts for animal testing??? Frik that!

Peace, Love and Chicken Grease!

I just wanted to re-post this:ATTENTION ALL - RE: the 1 800 number posted earlier.....

I emailed the guy at the "pokino rabbit and lab" (www.prfal.com) and he said, they have nothing to do with this site and please stop calling. He said the phone is ringing off the hook. Sooooo stop calling the poor guy and hanging up!

LOL - I am guilty of calling too

EDIT: He just wrote me again -

"Thank you Emilie!
This would make things easier on all if the calls stop …… !!!!!... IT is prepared to call in the Feds to investigate and possibly shut down the site. They advised to give it a day or two and if it continues they will act accordingly. Though it appears to be a harmless effort to figure out what is going to happen in the next episode, it has put a big burden us with all the phone calls, 95% of them being from all this activity. It must be a popular show. Maybe I should start to watch it?
Thanks for you effort and cooperation in this matter."

jl234
10-14-2005, 10:08 PM
Check this out!

http://www.uen.org/swan/argos.html

Way too many coincidences! Holy crap this is freakin me out!

108 minutes...satellite...swan!?

You should probably look at this page: http://www.uen.org/swan/

I don't think this has anything to do with LOST. It might, but I don't think so. I don't think Utah Education Network would let ABC host material about the show here. The site looks to be real.

chaz
10-14-2005, 10:09 PM
There is a new picture on Bigspaceship1.com. 15 rodent heads on a red backround. There is something behind the rodent heads images.

bigassfan
10-14-2005, 10:19 PM
I realize that Utah doesn't have to do with lost...I am just saying the coincidences with 108 minutes, satellite, and swan are kind of creepy.

lxicon
10-14-2005, 10:24 PM
There is a new picture on Bigspaceship1.com. 15 rabbits on a red backround. There is something behind the rabbit images.

2005-10-14 23:04:00 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/ AND http://www.bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : 64.207.186.80
pic : 15 bunny?/chipmunk? heads (no hidden data that i found)
audio : silent
morse : none (page title = "15")
link : none

delius
10-14-2005, 10:25 PM
Behind the heads it looks like a map and a sailboat in the water (?).

>Image 15< (http://home.comcast.net/~rickeith/Lost/15.gif)

iusedtohavealife
10-14-2005, 10:39 PM
Well friends - the site has changed again. What do we have? 15 rodent heads. 15 - one of the magic numbers. And just after counting I realized I didn't need to - the header says "15".

This looks like it has some stuff on it if you zoom in. Am I at that point yet? Pretty much - I'll report back if I find anything.


edit: didn't realize that others had posted this first. Sorry - I was hitting refresh and got confused.

ekl44fe
10-14-2005, 10:41 PM
Check this out: http://myspace.com/therodentrevolution

chaz
10-14-2005, 10:46 PM
The bottom left quadrant looks like someone in a suit ringing a bell

lxicon
10-14-2005, 10:47 PM
Check this out: http://myspace.com/therodentrevolution

i think that myspace site is a fake. there is nothing on that page that doesn't come from http://www.spynumbers.com/WBNY.html

he accepted my friend request and answered my emails with numbers. but they aren't a substitution cypher code like the rodent revolution code is. there are more than 26 different numbers and some of the number are larger than 26.

i have a post about it here: (do a find for "myspace" to find it about 3/4 the way down the page)
http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?start=210&threadID=598857&forumStart=0

and here's the script i wrote to try and figure out what the hell he/she sent me:
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/rodent.revolution/rodent.revolution.decypher.test.script.epl
* there are 6 sample messages from spynumber that are real, then the 3 messages he/she sent me.

lxicon
10-14-2005, 10:58 PM
I don't think they are rabbits...I think they maybe squirrels. I miss the music.

google image search "chipmunk" then "squirrel" my vote is for chipmunk.

and if you miss the music, see my archive at http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/

ekl44fe
10-14-2005, 11:00 PM
It's probably a fan, but a clever one to make a myspace account!

I vote for chipmunk too

Thank you for archiving all those things from bigspaceship1

bigassfan
10-14-2005, 11:13 PM
Does the heartbeat sound like a record at the end and the needle just skipping? That's what I originally thought it was rather than a heartbeat?

ekl44fe
10-14-2005, 11:15 PM
someone on the other forum said to translate 2FEN06 into Wingdings in word.... I get a sheet of paper with a finger pointing right and then a finger pointing left then a skull and crossbones a file folder then an hourglass. You can go here http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/microsoft/wingdings/ then type it in and press the "change sample text" I dont think it means anything but it was a good idea! maybe it means something in another symbol font?

lxicon
10-14-2005, 11:30 PM
well to me it sounds like a lot seeing how to guy who made bs1 is a font specialist...hmmmm

good point but wingdings, webdings etc. thats a slippery slope. you could type random characters in there and think up a corolation.

if it outright said something like those word-and-picture puzzles where you put "S" plus an eye plus a t-shirt to make the word "sight" that would be a different story.
-what the hell are those called again? i couldn't think of it to google search.

kiko
10-15-2005, 12:59 AM
Yes that is true he does create fonts.... maybe we should look at his page of fonts and see if any of them are symbols.

Ohhh lxicon I forgot what those are called too, how annoying I wont rest until I figure out what those are called

Rebus? Pictograms? nooooo ahhhhhh!

well i guess this could be it..
http://atomicmedia.net/font.php?font_name=KareIconThreePak

kiko
10-15-2005, 01:11 AM
i forget what the term is, but this picture is one of the ones that if you stare at it correctly, it goes 3-D. When you do this the 5 heads on the right and left float behind and lower than the 10 heads in the middle. Did anyone else notice this? My best guess is that whatever is behind the heads is a map of the island, but i'm not too sure of this. let me know what you see.

Well I dunno but I definatly do see it in 3-d...U cant do that with every normal pic...This frikking guy is talented

lxicon
10-15-2005, 01:13 AM
well i guess this could be it..
http://atomicmedia.net/font.php?font_name=KareIconThreePak

if it was anywhere it would be something exactly like that. more so if matthew was the designer.

creative font design is hard. my hat goes off to people who can "icon"-ise an image or a thought into so few pixels. i've never liked the idea of stealing fonts. but i don't want to spend $49 to find out if 2FENO6 means anything in that font as one of those pictogram-thingys. if anyone already has that font (or better yet, a font similar to that, designed by Matthew Bardram and can check? you could let us know if it WAS something by posting a jpg with 2FENO6 in that font.)

- i'd be impressed if in this font-> http://atomicmedia.net/art/small/codet.gif <- you could print, and scan with a barcode reader and get something. i doubt that would work though.

kiko
10-15-2005, 01:17 AM
I really dont see whats the point in giving letters pictures...I mean u cant really type stuff whats the point of it...How can u actually use those?

ekl44fe
10-15-2005, 01:18 AM
I saw that font with the animals. If it starts 0 1 2 then 2 is a rabbit

bigassfan
10-15-2005, 01:27 AM
why is it 2:25 and I am still logged on and looking around...Lost has totally consumed me. Might as well just let go and enjoy the ride!

curdinator
10-15-2005, 01:31 AM
glad someone else could see the 3D. the other weird thing is that when viewed normally you see three rows of chipmunks, but when viewed as 3D, there are 4 rows of chipmunks. freaky, but cool.

kiko
10-15-2005, 01:34 AM
glad someone else could see the 3D. the other weird thing is that when viewed normally you see three rows of chipmunks, but when viewed as 3D, there are 4 rows of chipmunks. freaky, but cool.
which would make it 20 chipmunks not 15...hmmm

ekl44fe
10-15-2005, 01:38 AM
Are you guys like crossing your eyes or do you have 3D glasses?

Edit: yep, crossing your eyes, I just did it and got the 20 floating heads. I still couldn't see the background any better though.

DykeZuki
10-15-2005, 01:45 AM
Crossing eyes... and I think they are called Stereograms???

kiko
10-15-2005, 01:46 AM
Are you guys like crossing your eyes or do you have 3D glasses?

Edit: yep, crossing your eyes, I just did it and got the 20 floating heads. I still couldn't see the background any better though.

lol nono nothing 2 do with the back...grr i wanna know what that is...:cool:

grrr y is it not changing???

curdinator
10-15-2005, 01:47 AM
I was thinking of trying to find the right shade of red plastic to view it thru. I was thinking maybe it would work like those old cereal box decoders where the message was much easier to see when the red in the message is countered by the filter. Might be worth a shot if anyone has some red lens filters lying around. Or maybe Photoshop could simulate the effect with a layer. I tried using a piece of red glass but it wasn't the right shade of red.

bigassfan
10-15-2005, 02:13 AM
what's the consensus on here? Bigspaceship1 official or fansite? The sites has got me quite confused. I would say I am split 50/50.

jessepea
10-15-2005, 02:35 AM
has someone posted a file of the 2Fen06 image? b/c on some other forum (i don't remember which, i've reaad too many tonight) someone realized that the next GROUNDHOG DAY (rodent revolution!) is feb 2, 2006.....is there anyway the "n" could be a "b"????

ED: OK I saw the image...no way the n is a b, but they are right next to each other on the keyboard and the morse code keys have shown some deliberate typos....maybe this is one of those?

bigassfan
10-15-2005, 02:48 AM
the O is an O not 0 zero. I too noticed that it was also the next groundhog day...could be something to it though..like you said there have been deliberate misspellings.

FeNO Fe=Iron...and they played the song Magnent and Steel. I am sick of these chipmunks tonight...bring on something new on there already!

jessepea
10-15-2005, 03:00 AM
Something else I have to share.....

This goes along with the fact that the bigspaceship and hanso pages are linked to the smartdust page, and linking this to the nanotechnology stuff in Michael Crichton's Prey.

It's a direct quote from another forum...I copied it to email to my friend and now can't find where I got it from, so if it's your theory, let me know and I'll credit you...

you do a search on what smartdust really is and you find out that it's nanotechnology, microscopic machines built for some purpose. Now, going back to Prey, the nanites formed a cloud to work together (which led to an artificial intelligence). So what if (and this is the punchline) the black cloud we saw in Exodus was a cloud of nanites? A large enough cloud of them (with sufficient mass) could have pulled an adult male. So maybe the security system is just a cloud of smartdust. Crazy guess, but it's definitely possible.

Could this imply that Dharma caused whole plane crash and then 'sucked up' the pilot after the crash?? It sure simplifies the whole electromagnetic crash theory.

I know this post is more of a theory than a spoiler, but they're not discussing the bigspaceship page on the theory boards and I don't want to introduce that reasoning where it could be considered 'spoiling'

DykeZuki
10-15-2005, 03:03 AM
2FENO6 AIR!!! - Is this the Chemical Formula for the Nano-Bugs?!?!?

And the Magnetic Fields keep them under control?

Running to check the other Websites they gave us!!! SmartDUST!
The Concrete being so thick not only to keep the radiation under control, but the nanites locked up? Some evidently escaped. Infects other people like Ethan, giving him unusal strength... hmm wonder if they infected the other animals, like the shark? Smart Shark, Smart Mice, Rodent Revolution!

I want a raise!!!

jessepea
10-15-2005, 03:05 AM
OMG OMG OMG I had no idea those 2 ideas could be connected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Way to random post tonight, gotta love the power of thousands of people all trying to solve the same puzzle.

jessepea
10-15-2005, 03:11 AM
Doesn't quite go along with that, but links FeNO2 directly to military radar...may be on to something....

Most U.S. military airborne radars overcome the problem of water entry by using self-purging positive pressure systems filled with a Freon and Nitrous Oxide (FeNO2) mix. (70% Freon/30% Nitrous Oxide at varying PSI. Actual internal pressure is determined by system requirements.) This in itself is impractical. As problematic leaks invariably develop, deployed units can quickly exhaust their supply of gas during troubleshooting and risk partial mission capability or non-mission capability status as a result.

This is from http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Radar

Project Mayhem
10-15-2005, 03:24 AM
So maybe that's what caused the crash, huh?

sgtreesh37
10-15-2005, 03:28 AM
Has anyone even entertained the notion that maybe the shows/websites creators are mind-screwing fans into perpetually checking back to these websites over and over? Think about it.

Project Mayhem
10-15-2005, 03:31 AM
Yeah, think of all the theories that would just be completly destroyed by it. If this keeps up, and it ends up being just a hoax, I wont remember what's real and whats not. :(

DykeZuki
10-15-2005, 04:50 AM
OK I double clicked on the right side of the screen and a blue line highlited on the right side of the squrriel pictures...someone who is smarter at websites tell me if this means anything???
Yeah you just Highlighted the SWF. As in Holding down the Mouse Button to highlight something. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I was very disappointed too. :(

lxicon
10-15-2005, 04:51 AM
OK I double clicked on the right side of the screen and a blue line highlited on the right side of the squrriel pictures...someone who is smarter at websites tell me if this means anything???

not quite sure what you mean. if you don't have a screen cap progran then download this http://lxicon.perception.net/lview.zip extract the files to any directory and run the Lviewpro.exe to start the program. (this is an old image viewer from 1996 basically a notepad for most image formats)
use the menus : [Edit]->[Capture]->[Desktop] and when the image is captured. save it somehwere on the web and post the url. we might be able to help you better.

* if you are going to keep the program in whatever directory you extracted it into use the [File] menu -> [Properties] -> [Install](Tab) and click the [create] button under "Task bar group" that will put shortcuts into your start menu to launch lview and (if you also checked off the "overwrite extensions set by other apps" check box before clicking the [create] button) register most image file types to LView.
if done correctly you can then double click most any image file and it will open very quickly in lview (MUCH faster than IE or phototshop or mspaint)

** i've used LView for screen caps and batch jpeg compression for almost 10 years now and it's never let me down.

lxicon
10-15-2005, 05:37 AM
omfg
lviewpro
i remember that
LOL
holy crap batman.. years and years ago or what!
haha
hey!, it does the trick, and i can open multiple instances of it for every image i double click. -if it worked on windows 3.1 it works on windows xp.

Dross
10-15-2005, 05:38 AM
I'm pretty sure bigspaceship1 is an official site because:

go to oceanicflight815.com
click on the blue light
takes you to http://www.thehansofoundation.org
type an s into http for https://www.thehansofoundation.org
and you get bigspaceship1.com

which is all connected to oceanicflight815.com.

PinkFloyd
10-15-2005, 07:30 AM
There's precedent for it to be real, disclaimers there or not (as it happens to be).

Specifically, when the movie A.I. came out, there was a HUGE and very complex online game, that really blurred the lines between the 'net and real life (if you were able to put your phone number in at one point...you got a mysterious recorded phone call some time later that pointed you where to go next). See the Cloudmakers.org (http://www.cloudmakers.org/) website for a group that formed to solve that game. Some other stuff they did to keep the game hard to solve was using ficticious names in domain registrations, etc. In this case, if ABC went and registered all the domains for this online game, it would be easy to find them and 'solve' the game with less effort.

On that very note, they have a link to other online games (http://www.cloudmakers.org/othergames/) that are similar. Hmmm....very peculiar...there seems to be ANOTHER online game for ANOTHER J.J. Abrams show....verrrrrrry interesting....

I bet if people research that game, we may find similar web hosting companies, IP addresses, etc.

That's my $.02 worth.

chaz
10-15-2005, 07:49 AM
has someone posted a file of the 2Fen06 image? b/c on some other forum (i don't remember which, i've reaad too many tonight) someone realized that the next GROUNDHOG DAY (rodent revolution!) is feb 2, 2006.....is there anyway the "n" could be a "b"????

ED: OK I saw the image...no way the n is a b, but they are right next to each other on the keyboard and the morse code keys have shown some deliberate typos....maybe this is one of those?
Rodents don't have lips. If they spoke they could not pronounce the sound for the letter "B". Making Febuary into Fenuary

Snrub
10-15-2005, 08:40 AM
http://2fen06.bigspaceship1.com

Skeddi
10-15-2005, 08:48 AM
You get that with whatever you type: http://whateverthatfits.bigspaceship1.com

Exie
10-15-2005, 08:50 AM
Now it's 15 hamster heads on a red background with 15 in the title instead of morse code.

chaz
10-15-2005, 10:46 AM
Has anyone figured out whats behind the 15 heads? Morse code has been added!!!

It reads "DASHDOTDOT DOTDASH DOTDOTDOT DOTDOTDOTDOT SLASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH SLASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH SLASH DASHDOTDOT DOTDASH DOTDOTDOT DOTDOTDOTDOT DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH SLASH DASHDOTDOT DOTDASH DOTDOTDOT DOTDOTDOTDOT DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH DASHDOTDOT DOTDASH DOTDOTDOT DOTDOTDOTDOT"

This then translated to:"DASH DOTDOTDOTDOT DOTDOT DASHDOT DASHDOTDASH"
This then translates to : "THINK"

Any clue?

Jason Frost
10-15-2005, 11:34 AM
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WOW...:mad:

Exie
10-15-2005, 11:50 AM
AHH what does this mean. Having too much fun and need to go get a life I guess!!:)

Life? What's that? :p

Jason Frost
10-15-2005, 11:55 AM
I think that it's a word...

vittala
10-15-2005, 11:55 AM
I dont know if this was mentioned on the forums yet but Sawyer was reading Watership Down in season 1 and now there is talk about the rodent revolution and themse of the white rabbit. Something to ponder.

Rocher Noir
10-15-2005, 11:56 AM
Think different, probably... :-(

Tibbz
10-15-2005, 12:12 PM
Maybe the island's security system is a rabid gang of genetically mutated chipmunks. That'd be pretty sweet, in my opinion. :D

Perdida BCN
10-15-2005, 12:35 PM
You get that with whatever you type: http://whateverthatfits.bigspaceship1.com

Hola!

Smartdust: "is a network of tiny wireless microelectromechanical sensors (MEMS), robots, or devices, installed with wireless communications, that can detect anything from light and temperature, to vibrations, etc." (From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartdust))

Any idea?

I'm sure that bigspaceship1 isn't a fake web. This domain is registered to Matthew Bardram; www.ipodnews.com too. Matthew Bardram is a type designer, and works in atomicmedia. In www.betanews.com (http://www.betanews.com/article/print/1016770700) I read: "Software developer Matthew Bardram has already extended the new feature even further with a freeware application he wrote called PodNotes". And "Lost will be offered to iPod users through the newest version of iTunes software for $1.99 per episode. " ...


--- Oh, i think that atomic media was smartdust ---

elfdream
10-15-2005, 12:50 PM
I've been told it says "Sometimes a Polar Bear is just a Polar Bear'.

My husband copied Morse code when he was in the Army..I'm going to get him to check this one out and will get back to you..(unless someone else gets it first of course)

ieatheartattacks
10-15-2005, 12:54 PM
there's a new morse code up now. i tried to translate it, but it was damn difficult, and i'm too tired.

kiko
10-15-2005, 01:35 PM
there's a new morse code up now. i tried to translate it, but it was damn difficult, and i'm too tired.

it translate to another morse code, which translates to another morse code which translates to THINK.

chaz
10-15-2005, 01:41 PM
Has anyone figured out whats behind the 15 heads? Morse code has been added!!!

It reads "DASHDOTDOT DOTDASH DOTDOTDOT DOTDOTDOTDOT SLASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH SLASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH SLASH DASHDOTDOT DOTDASH DOTDOTDOT DOTDOTDOTDOT DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH SLASH DASHDOTDOT DOTDASH DOTDOTDOT DOTDOTDOTDOT DASHDOTDOT DASHDASHDASH DASH DASHDOTDOT DOTDASH DOTDOTDOT DOTDOTDOTDOT"

This then translated to:"DASH DOTDOTDOTDOT DOTDOT DASHDOT DASHDOTDASH"
This then translates to : "THINK"

Any clue?


It double translates to "THINK"

Subterranean Ali
10-15-2005, 02:32 PM
Has anyone figured out what the backround picture is? If I look at it any longer I think I'll scream.

Just been looking at it for a while, but the best I've come up with are:

- map of Western Europe, but slightly altered. I can see what resembles Spain in the bottom left and Italy poking out towards the bottom, and also a lot of lines across the middle that could be borders to different countries? No? Meh.

- Are they rabbits or otters or something? If they're rabbits, it could be a reference to Watership Down, especially with the red colour seemingly 'drowing' a picture behind them, the red being blood.

Gives me a headache after a while though, hmm.

chaz
10-15-2005, 02:48 PM
Does anyone else see a person in the botton left quadrant?

DykeZuki
10-15-2005, 03:08 PM
I think it could probably be a map, but that definitly looks like a Sail Boat on the left. So what's up with that?

danib
10-15-2005, 03:28 PM
there's a new morse code up now. i tried to translate it, but it was damn difficult, and i'm too tired.

if you meant too hard to translate morse code ~ here is a translator:
http://users.scoutnet.nl/~inter/morse/morseform.html

ekl44fe
10-15-2005, 03:59 PM
It looks like an ocean view from a beach with foliage and palm trees, and yes, a sailboat in the water. I thought it could be a picture of the raft from the beach but I couldn't find any such picture.

Lost Mirage
10-15-2005, 05:02 PM
So then it can be taken as "official"? Sorry, guys, I'm not all "computery" like y'all, LOL!:D

And if that's so, does that mean that we can expect something, or is it going to just be open-ended occurances that really dont have a point? I mean, ok, so there was a link on the IPod page that advertised the mines of Navrik. But, did that end up doing anything? The biggest question I have is about the code in the red dots. We haven't figured that one out---yet. :D

And for the record, to me it looks like a couple of images on top or blended or whatever together. I can see a map on the bottom part, a "boat on the water" nautical picture on the left, and ...something...I'm not sure what, on top. Those heads are driving me CRAZY!!!!:computer: :banghead:

jessepea
10-15-2005, 08:18 PM
Anyone think that the triangle thing on the mid-left of the 15 squirrels pic could be a shark's fin?

DykeZuki
10-15-2005, 08:30 PM
Hey guys I just posted a Real or Fake Poll about the BigSpaceShip website.
http://www.lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=17606
So, go put your votes in. Mmm'K?

iusedtohavealife
10-15-2005, 09:02 PM
So with the message being "Think" it makes me think that we are missing something in the current picture/flash. The guy behind it must know we haven't figured it out because he is reading these forums - I can sense it.

Why don't you come forward and admit you having nothing to do with Lost.

Oh wait - this is the biggest thing that's ever happened in your life and you don't want it to end.

The X Factor
10-15-2005, 09:57 PM
MAKING THE CONNECTION...Bigspaceship1.com and the other stations!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hey everyone.

I've been watching lost from the beginning and have been reading this forum for several months now - here's my first post...

A lot of good theories - I think some of you aren't making connections though - if you read through all the postings and link the info together we can get some good stuff. (I take no credit for being the original author of these ideas, I'm just compiling them...)

Read "The Apollo Connection" http://www.lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=17256

A recent morse code translation from bigspaceship1.com read : (User achtung3d)

CHOCOLATE ASCLEPIUS

"Asclepius" is another name for Ophiuchus who was a physician and serpent handler who was turned into a constellation by Zeus... for the sake of Apollo (User: Jed)


(Courtesy of User: Roofus)
"I think you're missing one thing, and I think someone alluded to it. Many are trying to find out what part of the same experiment each station is playing. I think that's wrong. I think each station has its own experiment and that there is a main station, let's call it "Apollo Station" that is over seeing the whole project.

The Hanso Life-Extension Project
The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative Station 3
The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence
The Hanso Mathematical Forecasting Initiative
The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative
The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute
The Hanso Accelerated Remote Viewing Training Facility Apollo Station

5 stations left to match with 5 Apollo constellations and 5 remaining experimental projects.

Thoughts?"




This sounds like it makes sense...

Big"SpaceShipe" 1 > Connection to constellations?!?!

Now there has got to be a connection between those constellations, the island, the stations and the lostaways...I'm still working on it.

That website IS offical

Barenjager
10-15-2005, 11:04 PM
If anyone is interested, I play games similar to what this seems like. They're called ARGs (Alternate Reality Games). The forum I go to a lot has a forum setup for this "game" here: http://www.immersionunlimited.com/viewforum.php?f=101

Right now we're keeping track of the updates on bigspaceship1.com and other websites too.

iusedtohavealife
10-15-2005, 11:07 PM
12:05 AM EST - new update. Looks like a bunch of spinning circles with blue and olive colors in them. The song make your kind of music is playing with rodent style vocals. Damn this site is FREAKY

Sars
10-15-2005, 11:35 PM
Damn this site is FREAKY

But it's SO amusing! :D

Doesn't look like the morse code has changed, though.

lxicon
10-15-2005, 11:35 PM
2005-10-15 23:50:25 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : 64.207.186.80
pic : optical illusion
audio : Make Your Own Kind of Music by Mama Cass Elliot album : Bubble Gum, Lemonade & Something for Mama
morse : THINK (3 translations)
link : none

DykeZuki
10-15-2005, 11:47 PM
Did anyone decode what the black was on the Bottom of the Rabbits Head???
As seen here... http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.red.rabbit.head.cast.iron.arm.lo st.swf

Thanks to Lexi!

lxicon
10-16-2005, 12:00 AM
Did anyone decode what the black was on the Bottom of the Rabbits Head???
As seen here... http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.red.rabbit.head.cast.iron.arm.lo st.swf

Thanks to Lexi!


oooh... someone said something about a signature that was in keeping with the watership down references. i forget which thread through. sorry.

i was never able to read anything into it. there's a pic of it up there too. that you could read in photoshop or something.

i cleaned it up nice in black and whiet. looks like a photo even... odd. still cant read the sig though.

looks more like a mask than a head.
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.red.rabbit.head.b.&.w.jpg

jessepea
10-16-2005, 12:12 AM
a mask exactly like the white rabbit one on jack in the channel 4 untold page

jessepea
10-16-2005, 12:16 AM
now the page is back to the 15 squirrels and the triple coded THINK but with white borders on the outside and it looks like the contrast has been turned up....i agree, someone's waiting for us to figure this one out before they change it

ED nm my bad cached image

danib
10-16-2005, 12:20 AM
check it out! quite funky at least no more squirrels/chipmunks
I have never been able to see those hidden pictures.. anyone see anything??
Make your own kind of music song again.. what's up with that song?
morse code:
suculae

LostPame
10-16-2005, 12:24 AM
A quick question, does anyone what's the name of the song that used to play with the flash? It used to play with the polar bears and had a part that said.. "you and your split personality and meee..." or something like that... pls help!!!

Edit: you can hear the song in this link: http://media.putfile.com/lost6 :)

danib
10-16-2005, 12:29 AM
OMG I am rolling they changed the music again.. to Giligan's Island to the tune of Stairwayto Heaven I think

sinestar
10-16-2005, 12:30 AM
the page now has this morse code

... ..- -.-. ..- .-.. .- .

danib
10-16-2005, 12:32 AM
morse code: sucula
WEIRD

it is a Chinese word maybe: core, Chanel, focal, proprietary, shades, multi, stroll,
recast, necessary, invent
is what I found when Googled

sinestar
10-16-2005, 12:41 AM
its actually

SUCULAE

sinestar
10-16-2005, 12:45 AM
anagrams for that are:


A CLUE US
AC LEU US
CA LEU US
UCLA SUE
UCLA USE
CAUL SUE
CAUL USE
SAUL CUE
USA CLUE <--- ?



i know its a stretch....

danib
10-16-2005, 12:46 AM
Interesting, I was right the first time. I could have sworn it changed. Yep it is SUCULAE
how about... give

US A CLUE

LOL

bigassfan
10-16-2005, 12:47 AM
New Morse Code...

SUCULAE

More Greek Mythology!

bigassfan
10-16-2005, 12:48 AM
SUCULAE google it!

it's the daughters of Hyades...

lxicon
10-16-2005, 01:08 AM
A quick question, does anyone what's the name of the song that used to play with the flash? It used to play with the polar bears and had a part that said.. "you and your split personality and meee..." or something like that... pls help!!!

Edit: you can hear the song in this link: http://media.putfile.com/lost6 :)

see the audio list here : http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/the.audio.list.txt

or more detail : http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/_bigspaceship1.com.log.txt

and one more : http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/the.morse.code.list.txt

2005-10-16_01.32.04 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : 64.207.186.80
pic : optical illusion
audio : Stairway to Gilligan's Island by Led Zeppelin album : Live at Knebworth 1979, Pt. 1
morse : SUCULAE

ekl44fe
10-16-2005, 01:10 AM
the Latin name of the Hyades is "suculae"
"The Hyades, a cluster of stars 150 light years away that makes the head of Taurus"

jessepea
10-16-2005, 01:11 AM
From http://www.theoi.com/Nymphe/NymphaiHyades.html:

Atlas by Pleione or an Oceanid had twelve daughters, and a son, Hyas. The son was killed by a wild boar or a lion, and the sisters, grieving for him, died of this grief. The five of them first put among the stars have their place between the horns of the bull - Phaesyla, Ambrosia, Coronis, Eudora, Polyxo - and are called, from their brother’s name, Hyades. In Latin they are called Suculae. Some say that since they are arranged in the form of the letter Upsilon they are called Hyades; some, they are so called because they bring rain when they rise, for to rain is hyein in Greek.

So...........
1) We're dealing with constellations yet again
2) bringing rain = weather control?

chaz
10-16-2005, 01:11 AM
Roman Name: "Suculae" Translation: Suckling Pigs

Do you think they mean us?

jessepea
10-16-2005, 01:13 AM
oh yeah and the red things on the swirlies look like antibody receptors

lxicon
10-16-2005, 01:24 AM
the Latin name of the Hyades is "suculae"
"The Hyades, a cluster of stars 150 light years away that makes the head of Taurus"

Hyades? as in the devil (or messages from the devil?)
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.optical.illusion.stairway.to.gil ligans.island.reverse.mp3

* i didn't hear anything but i'm a drummer (insert joke here)

chaz
10-16-2005, 01:26 AM
Fixed star: ALDEBARAN Oculus Tauri
History of the star: A pale rose star marking the left eye of the Bull, Taurus
As a member of the Hyades it was a "Sow"; the colloquial title among the Roman country-people for the Hyades was Suculae, "the Little Pigs", from Sus, "Sow". It was said that the title might come from the resemblance of this group of stars to a pig's jaws; or because Aldebaran and its companion stars were like a sow with her litter. Pliny accounting for it by the fact that the continual rains of the season of their setting made the roads so miry that these stars seemed to delight in dirt, like swine!



Did anyone ever figure out what was under the 15 heads?

ekl44fe
10-16-2005, 01:33 AM
Hyades? as in the devil (or messages from the devil?)
http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/bigspaceship1.com.optical.illusion.stairway.to.gil ligans.island.reverse.mp3

* i didn't hear anything but i'm a drummer (insert joke here)

Do you mean Hades as in Hell?

I don't think the two words are related.... I could be wrong, it's happened before

bigassfan
10-16-2005, 01:43 AM
Hmmm...there's 18 black dots...it isn't a "special" number. I doubt that means anything...but thought I'd point that out.

SUCULAE = Sucking Pigs = definitley good be a stab at us. Sucking the website for more information at the wee hours of the morning.

bigassfan
10-16-2005, 01:46 AM
BUT...the red stems thingies...there are 8 of them. I have to give it to the creators of the website...the music arrangement is quite odd...but VERY catchy! Thanks lxicon for distributing the music!

ekl44fe
10-16-2005, 02:03 AM
The picture is of snakes, it's a optical illusion mentioned on page 1 of this thread. It as created by Akiyoshi Kitaoka in 2003. The red "things" are tongues of the snakes. Here is the link http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/index-e.html

danib
10-16-2005, 02:15 AM
well a big Duh for us.. you rock great catch!

SNOWMAN
10-16-2005, 03:27 AM
I don't believe I actually did this, but I just called that number, 800-622-6381. Someone answered. Yes, someone actually answered. With a simple "hello?" I asked him who he was. He said something like "why do you want to know..." I asked what he knew about bigspaceship1.com. He said "yeah, I know about the god-damn lost site...I wish people would stop calling me." I asked if it was fake. He said "Yes its fake! Fake!" I asked what was the point of it. He's all "I don't know. I didn't put it up...wish people would stop calling this number. gosh..." Then he hung up.

Yah...

sinestar
10-16-2005, 04:57 AM
i havent seen this mentioned or discussed anywhere....


http://www.bigspaceship1.org/

Dross
10-16-2005, 05:25 AM
I don't believe I actually did this, but I just called that number, 800-622-6381. Someone answered. Yes, someone actually answered. With a simple "hello?" I asked him who he was. He said something like "why do you want to know..." I asked what he knew about bigspaceship1.com. He said "yeah, I know about the god-damn lost site...I wish people would stop calling me." I asked if it was fake. He said "Yes its fake! Fake!" I asked what was the point of it. He's all "I don't know. I didn't put it up...wish people would stop calling this number. gosh..." Then he hung up.

Yah...

I'm lost...what number is that?

lxicon
10-16-2005, 06:21 AM
I'm lost...what number is that?

someone posted on a thread that the title had that # to call (i never saw it myself)

i wouldn't call it it costs them money and it sounds like they have nothing to do with it.

MissJenniPenni
10-16-2005, 06:42 AM
i havent seen this mentioned or discussed anywhere....


http://www.bigspaceship1.org/

I hadnt seen that one before. I love the "pateince" qoute from Shakespear lol

lxicon
10-16-2005, 07:04 AM
i havent seen this mentioned or discussed anywhere....


http://www.bigspaceship1.org/

thats cause it was only created a week after the episode aired.

Domain ID:D107790008-LROR
Domain Name:BIGSPACESHIP1.ORG
Created On:12-Oct-2005 15:52:35 UTC
Last Updated On:12-Oct-2005 16:42:19 UTC
Expiration Date:12-Oct-2006 15:52:35 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Go Daddy Software, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-014600240
Registrant Name:George Zahora
Registrant Organization:Splendid Magazine
Registrant Street1:1202 Curtiss St., 2nd Floor
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Downers Grove
Registrant State/Province:Illinois
Registrant Postal Code:60515
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.6302053863
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email: gzahora@splendidmagazine.com

chaz
10-16-2005, 09:49 AM
The Rabbit head/mask is back. Morse code is unchanged.

Jason Frost
10-16-2005, 10:43 AM
The talking man with jazz musi is back. Morse code is unchanged.

ekl44fe
10-16-2005, 11:29 AM
SNOWMAN - Read the thread, DONT call that number!! I promised him we would stop calling it. He said he would have the feds shut the site down if we didn't stop calling!

Here is my original post!!!

ATTENTION ALL - RE: the 1 800 number posted earlier.....

I emailed the guy at the "pokino rabbit and lab" (www.prfal.com) and he said, they have nothing to do with this site and please stop calling. He said the phone is ringing off the hook. Sooooo stop calling the poor guy and hanging up!

"Thank you Emilie!
This would make things easier on all if the calls stop …… !!!!!... IT is prepared to call in the Feds to investigate and possibly shut down the site. They advised to give it a day or two and if it continues they will act accordingly. Though it appears to be a harmless effort to figure out what is going to happen in the next episode, it has put a big burden us with all the phone calls, 95% of them being from all this activity. It must be a popular show. Maybe I should start to watch it?
Thanks for you effort and cooperation in this matter."

Dross
10-16-2005, 11:34 AM
Polar bears are back.

ekl44fe
10-16-2005, 11:36 AM
BUMPING this to the next page - Please READ

SNOWMAN - Read the thread, DONT call that number!! I promised him we would stop calling it. He said he would have the feds shut the site down if we didn't stop calling!

Here is my original post!!!

ATTENTION ALL - RE: the 1 800 number posted earlier.....

I emailed the guy at the "pokino rabbit and lab" (www.prfal.com) and he said, they have nothing to do with this site and please stop calling. He said the phone is ringing off the hook. Sooooo stop calling the poor guy and hanging up!

"Thank you Emilie!
This would make things easier on all if the calls stop …… !!!!!... IT is prepared to call in the Feds to investigate and possibly shut down the site. They advised to give it a day or two and if it continues they will act accordingly. Though it appears to be a harmless effort to figure out what is going to happen in the next episode, it has put a big burden us with all the phone calls, 95% of them being from all this activity. It must be a popular show. Maybe I should start to watch it?
Thanks for you effort and cooperation in this matter."

Dross
10-16-2005, 11:39 AM
someone posted on a thread that the title had that # to call (i never saw it myself)

i wouldn't call it it costs them money and it sounds like they have nothing to do with it.

Thanks for the info.

Jason Frost
10-16-2005, 11:53 AM
I can't stop the polar bear flash...

Subterranean Ali
10-16-2005, 12:09 PM
"Thank you Emilie!
This would make things easier on all if the calls stop …… !!!!!... IT is prepared to call in the Feds to investigate and possibly shut down the site. They advised to give it a day or two and if it continues they will act accordingly. Though it appears to be a harmless effort to figure out what is going to happen in the next episode, it has put a big burden us with all the phone calls, 95% of them being from all this activity. It must be a popular show. Maybe I should start to watch it?
Thanks for you effort and cooperation in this matter."

ahahahahaha, that is tremendous.

Jason Frost
10-16-2005, 12:12 PM
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/2684/ok9zf.gif
There is no play option or "Lecture" like last time...

Grundy
10-16-2005, 01:23 PM
I was away for a week...what did I miss here? lol 56 pages of teasers

wwcalan
10-16-2005, 01:25 PM
First time to have a post on this forum.Hi all.

It now turn to a pic of a lying polar bear with a freaking humming sound. ( live in HK and now is around 2:30 am)

DykeZuki
10-16-2005, 01:37 PM
Is anyone getting the thing with the HeartBeart?

All I can think of is Baby Aaron is a SUCULAE???

Oh there's a NEW BEAR up I haven't seen!

THERE'S A SCORPION HIDDEN IN THE BEAR PIC!!!!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/DykeZuki/LOSTPolarScorpion.jpg

Spaxx
10-16-2005, 01:42 PM
Hi all!!!

Playing around a little bit with PS, I found a scorpion in the pic.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6742/bear0ap.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bear0ap.jpg)

livet0ski
10-16-2005, 02:16 PM
whoa sweet!

DykeZuki
10-16-2005, 02:17 PM
This may go nowhere... but Baby Aaron was born approx. Nov. 1st, which is Sagitarius,
which is represneted by an ARROW.

danib
10-16-2005, 02:27 PM
Great shot of scorpion! Does anyone else hear really low voice in the BG of the static or am I just hearing things {very possible since all I do is click on their site 500x a day!!}

Rocher Noir
10-16-2005, 02:35 PM
I can hear that voice too

kiko
10-16-2005, 02:44 PM
Great shot of scorpion! Does anyone else hear really low voice in the BG of the static or am I just hearing things {very possible since all I do is click on their site 500x a day!!}
I sure hear it!!!

Dross
10-16-2005, 02:59 PM
I hear it too, it sounds like someone moaning in pain, which freaks me out.

PinkFloyd
10-16-2005, 03:08 PM
...I still have the rabbit with 'schizophrenic baby' playing...

?????

I've flushed my Firefox cache, etc. What gives?

A buddy of mine and I noticed that we weren't getting the site changes at the same time. Is there, perhaps, a timeout in the flash file which expires the content?

danib
10-16-2005, 03:11 PM
That is weird it doesn't change for you..
and yeah that voice creeps me out.
If this is all a fake it is still way more fun than just watching a TV show
How would you filter the audio? Surely somebody knows!

lxicon
10-16-2005, 03:28 PM
That is weird it doesn't change for you..
and yeah that voice creeps me out.
If this is all a fake it is still way more fun than just watching a TV show
How would you filter the audio? Surely somebody knows!


in order to be sure you have the newest copy. go directly to the flash file http://bigspaceship1.com/lost.swf and hit the relead button on that. sometime the reload but will reload the html but won't reload the embeded objects.

here is what has been up since i last posted last night.

2005-10-16 10:48:33 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : red rabbit head
audio : Schizophrenic Baby by Sheldon Allman album : Folk Songs for the 21st Century
morse : SUCULAE


2005-10-16 11:30:22 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : optical illusion
audio : Fabio: On Tropical Islands
morse : SUCULAE


2005-10-16 12:02:35 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : two animated polar bears plus single frame 2FENO6
audio : Schizophrenic Baby by Sheldon Allman album : Folk Songs for the 21st Century
morse : SUCULAE
link : none


2005-10-16 14:19:26 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : polar bear lying down sorpion hidden in palette 1 & 3
audio : electrical hum & wind noises
morse : IUCULAE


2005-10-16 16:24:53 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : Address: 64.207.186.80
pic : polar bear lying down sorpion hidden in palette 1 & 3
audio : electrical hum & wind noises
morse : INGIRUMIMUSNOCTEETCONSUMIMURIGNI

sinestar
10-16-2005, 03:39 PM
new code

.. -. / --. .. .-. ..- -- / .. -- ..- ... / -. --- -.-. - . / . - / -.-. --- -. ... ..- -- .. -- ..- .-. / .. --. -. ..



IN/GIRUM/IMUS/NOCTE/ET/CONSUMIMUR/IGNI

lxicon
10-16-2005, 03:43 PM
new code

.. -. / --. .. .-. ..- -- / .. -- ..- ... / -. --- -.-. - . / . - / -.-. --- -. ... ..- -- .. -- ..- .-. / .. --. -. ..



IN/GIRUM/IMUS/NOCTE/ET/CONSUMIMUR/IGNI

latin? one sec. i'll check...

oh! pfloyd95 on this thread found it : http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?start=330&threadID=598857&forumStart=0 (near the bottom of page 12)

sinestar
10-16-2005, 03:44 PM
"IN GIRUM IMUS NOCTE ET CONSUMIMUR IGNI"
This famous maccaronic verse, called "the devil's verse", is a riddle in the form of a palindrome - literally a puzzle inside a puzzle... It means "we wander in the night, and are consumed by fire" or "we enter the circle after dark and are consumed by fire" and is said to describe the movement of months. Some others believe that it is about the 'mayfly', that insect that circles the fire only to be consumed by flame.

jessepea
10-16-2005, 03:53 PM
Does anyone have an mp3 of the Schizo Baby song?

X-Evolutionist
10-16-2005, 03:58 PM
I'm so glad they hide all these clues for us to find. Oh, man, I'm addicted to this show.

X

chaz
10-16-2005, 04:09 PM
Is it just me or do you see Conan O'Brien on the bears back (by the neck).



.

silverswood
10-16-2005, 04:33 PM
The voices in the background sounds like singing or music to me just cant quite make it out

DykeZuki
10-16-2005, 04:54 PM
IN GIRUM IMUS NOCTE ET CONSUMIMUR IGNI

Translation:
"We go in circles at night and are consumed in fire.''

Project Mayhem
10-16-2005, 05:08 PM
Is it just me or do you see Conan O'Brien on the bears back (by the neck).

Strange you would mention something like that....

http://www.conanvsbear.com/

Skeddi
10-16-2005, 05:10 PM
The sound on the background is like the noise from the engine from an old airplane, flying whilst the wind is passing by.

A bit like the airplane from the Nigerian drugsmugglers...

DykeZuki
10-16-2005, 05:22 PM
I don't see Conan and I can't figure out how to see the hidden scorpion. What do I have to play with in order to see it? The conrast, hue?
Change all WHITE Pixels to a different color. The scorpion is off set with a slightly off-white color.

And I don't see Conan either.... maybe you can upload a representation of what you are seeing?

The sound on the background is like the noise from the engine from an old airplane, flying whilst the wind is passing by.

A bit like the airplane from the Nigerian drugsmugglers...
To me the it sounds like what would be behind that thick concrete wall in the bunker!!!

LOST_the_plot
10-16-2005, 06:17 PM
Does anyone else hear some kind of singing/moaning in the background of the buzzing noise? Sounds like someone moaning in pain or some kind of Indian singing...

DykeZuki
10-16-2005, 06:20 PM
Does anyone else hear some kind of singing/moaning in the background of the buzzing noise? Sounds like someone moaning in pain or some kind of Indian singing...
I hear back ground noises too. We need someone with tech skills to dim down the HUMM.

Lost Mirage
10-16-2005, 07:01 PM
It sounds like someone wimpering in the background, and is freaky. :D

You know, thinking about that latin phrase.....trying to figure out this site is like walking around in circles, LOL!:D

iusedtohavealife
10-16-2005, 07:14 PM
Here is the transcript from VH1 "Best Week Ever" Makes it sound like bigspaceship1 is legit??

Last week we all got to see not only more of the hatch (which an internet nerd has analyzed and created an entire map to), but the "orientation tape" from the Dharma Initiative. We learn that the hatch is a part of the Dharma Initiative, which was created by Gerald and Karen De Groot with funding by the Hanso group back in the 80's. Well, the Hanso group actually has its own website over at http://www.thehansofoundation.org/ (I have confirmed myself that this is in fact an ABC-created site, not a fan site). Interesting reading to say the least. Especially when you go look at their list of active projects. If you pay attention, at the bottom there is a hidden link for the Dharma Initiative and when you click on it, you get to see the entire orientation tape. Oh but there’s more. Cybersleuths have found if you try and access the secured version of the site (meaning you add an S to the http in the web address), you get a page that simply says http://www.bigspaceship1.com/. Go there and you will be even more freaked out. Weird audio and morse code in the title bar. What does it all mean? That is, other than telling me I should stop being such a dork and get out more and enjoy the fall air. Maybe get some cider. Well, that’s enough geek chatter for one week. On to the recap.

Excuse me but that is NOT a transcript from VH1's best week ever - that is from the recap on www.tvgasm.com. I know because I read the recaps on that site every week and that's been posted there since Thursday.

LostPame
10-16-2005, 07:23 PM
see the audio list here : http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/the.audio.list.txt

or more detail : http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/_bigspaceship1.com.log.txt

and one more : http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/the.morse.code.list.txt

2005-10-16_01.32.04 EST (http://bigspaceship1.com/)
ip : 64.207.186.80
pic : optical illusion
audio : Stairway to Gilligan's Island by Led Zeppelin album : Live at Knebworth 1979, Pt. 1
morse : SUCULAE

Thank you VERY, VERY MUCH... :D

zapp645
10-16-2005, 07:28 PM
i think im starting to feel insanity creeping up on me

chaz
10-16-2005, 07:35 PM
I don't see Conan and I can't figure out how to see the hidden scorpion. What do I have to play with in order to see it? The conrast, hue?

Here is Conan. Sorry about the sad condition of the file. This was the only way I could get it to fit

Jed
10-16-2005, 07:48 PM
I'm with DZ... this is boring. :(

iusedtohavealife
10-16-2005, 07:52 PM
Here is Conan. Sorry about the sad condition of the file. This was the only way I could get it to fit

I don't see it at all - sorry dude

iusedtohavealife
10-16-2005, 09:20 PM
Yes it is, I got it right off the VH1 site!

Sooooorry for using the wrong word but it was on the VH1 site http://bestweekever.blogs.com/ It probably was on tvgasm too

It was a transcript of the blog ...heheh ok I'll stop

That is just a reprint of the tvgasm recap - it is not original best week ever material. Go to the link you provided and it even says that it is FROM tvgasm (with a link to the full tvgasm recap).

Sorry to correct you - but I really like tvgasm

iusedtohavealife
10-16-2005, 09:23 PM
I'm with DZ... this is boring. :(



It's not as exciting as it was at first BUT I'm still not bored cause while those of you that believe in this site are looking for hidden meanings and clues for the show I am looking for ways to prove the site is a fake/fansite. I did contact via e-mail somebody from Disney/ABC about the site - I hope to hear back from them soon with some sort of official word.

DykeZuki
10-16-2005, 09:33 PM
I am looking for ways to prove the site is a fake/fansite. I did contact via e-mail somebody from Disney/ABC about the site - I hope to hear back from them soon with some sort of official word.
Question for ya:
1.) Do you believe the http://www.thehansofoundation.org/ is authentic?

2.) Does the SWF movie work for you/anyone under the Dharma Initiative?
It won't work for me.

3.) If #2, is NO, don't you think they would have fixed it already if it isn't working?

I think they left the SWF file blank on purpose so we would take the site apart with a fine tooth comb trying to find it; and hence found the BigSpaceShip1 site.

It may not be ABC, but they could sure hire a advertising company to do some Viral Advertising for them. Someone mentioned they did they same kind of campagne with Alias?

"Taking more hits than Sawyer ever will."

lxicon
10-16-2005, 09:50 PM
nothing new since 2005-10-16 16:41:16 EST


Question for ya:
1.) Do you believe the http://www.thehansofoundation.org/ is authentic?

2.) Does the SWF movie work for you/anyone under the Dharma Initiative?
It won't work for me.

3.) If #2, is NO, don't you think they would have fixed it already if it isn't working?


1) yes. it is registered to abc.

2) no. i doubt it would. there are better ways to legitimately restrict access. it's just a dead end used to dramatic effect. The show is all about suspence and mystery after all.

3) GOTO 2; # heehee! my programming teacher's HATED my use of goto lines in code.

iusedtohavealife
10-16-2005, 10:04 PM
Question for ya:
1.) Do you believe the http://www.thehansofoundation.org/ is authentic?

2.) Does the SWF movie work for you/anyone under the Dharma Initiative?
It won't work for me.

3.) If #2, is NO, don't you think they would have fixed it already if it isn't working?

I think they left the SWF file blank on purpose so we would take the site apart with a fine tooth comb trying to find it; and hence found the BigSpaceShip1 site.

It may not be ABC, but they could sure hire a advertising company to do some Viral Advertising for them. Someone mentioned they did they same kind of campagne with Alias?

"Taking more hits than Sawyer ever will."

1. Yes I do - its whois says ABC and there is a terms of use link on it.

2. No I don't recall it ever working for me.

3. Yes - I would think somebody Disney Internet would have fixed it by now but it proves nothing to me.



I personally believe that somebody either hacked into the hanso site or has access to it and planted the bigspaceship1 onto it. I also think the same person is messing with all of you and laughing every step of the way.

Bhazo
10-16-2005, 10:19 PM
If the video doesn't work for you....

Try using Firefox...it won't load with IE for some reason, but it does with Firefox. I also have a copy of it on my site if you just want to download it...

Bhazo
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www.lost-trailhead.com

iusedtohavealife
10-16-2005, 10:48 PM
Iusedtohavealife....don't hate me, I'm not bashing your favorite site - I was just referring to the fact that they said "the hanso site is real and I can prove it" the whole thing about it being on VH1 was not my point, just that they said they could prove the site is really ABC's

I love trying to figure out things like this site - can anyone recommend any movies like this... like Memento

ekl44fe - no worries - I know you weren't bashing it. I just wanted to give credit to the actual author of what you posted (tvgasm and not VH1's best week ever).


Some movies you might enjoy that are like this site/memento: The Game, Resevoir Dogs, Being John Malkavich, Donny Darko (I know there are many more - that's just off the top of my head)

DykeZuki
10-16-2005, 10:57 PM
Well poop, there goes that idea. How old of a Program is FireFox? Was it around in the 80's by chance?

lxicon
10-16-2005, 11:22 PM
Well poop, there goes that idea. How old of a Program is FireFox? Was it around in the 80's by chance?
nope but it is derived from mosaic (one of the first web browsers)
http://www.pcsympathy.com/article234.html

zapp645
10-17-2005, 12:01 AM
we need answers, i think iv said that maybe 4 times in this thread, but now it's more true than ever.

iusedtohavealife
10-17-2005, 12:09 AM
we need answers, i think iv said that maybe 4 times in this thread, but now it's more true than ever.

Now that the weekend is coming to a close I will do my best to make contact with the Disney Internet Group which makes the Lost websites. Hopefully they will confirm or deny once and for all whether or not bigspaceship1 is legit.

DykeZuki
10-17-2005, 12:41 AM
Just brain storming here...
What if The Numbers aren't earth coordinates but star coordinates?
Anyone know how to look those up?
With all the Astrological & Mythological references maybe we should be researching Out There?

But like most of you I am getting weary of the research.

kiko
10-17-2005, 03:45 AM
Just brain storming here...
What if The Numbers aren't earth coordinates but star coordinates?
Anyone know how to look those up?
With all the Astrological & Mythological references maybe we should be researching Out There?

But like most of you I am getting weary of the research.

very good point...

instabil
10-17-2005, 06:10 AM
Just brain storming here...
What if The Numbers aren't earth coordinates but star coordinates?
Anyone know how to look those up?
With all the Astrological & Mythological references maybe we should be researching Out There?

But like most of you I am getting weary of the research.

SIMBAD - astronomical database (http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/sim-fid.pl)
About astronomical coordinate systems (http://www.seds.org/~spider/spider/ScholarX/coords.html)

I couldn't find anything useful. Also, it's a series of ascending numbers. Don't you think it would be weird if they were coordinates? (But hey! What's NOT weird?)

I also extracted the scorpion from the polarbear image for those of you that 'got weary' ;)

btw. my first post but i've been reading this thread for some time.

chaz
10-17-2005, 07:15 AM
Just brain storming here...
What if The Numbers aren't earth coordinates but star coordinates?
Anyone know how to look those up?
With all the Astrological & Mythological references maybe we should be researching Out There?

But like most of you I am getting weary of the research.
Do you need a date when looking at astronomical coordinates? (02FEN06)

PinkFloyd
10-17-2005, 07:41 AM
Has anyone noticed that "In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni" is a movie from 1978 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240610/)?

nvs78
10-17-2005, 07:51 AM
and that said, going by the imdb site, its a 'palindrome' .. which is the same spelling, back to front...

tricky tricky..

absintheminded
10-17-2005, 09:58 AM
Has anyone noticed that "In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni" is a movie from 1978 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240610/)?

It means: we go into the circle by night and are consumed by fire.

:thud:

ekl44fe
10-17-2005, 10:02 AM
Some movies you might enjoy that are like this site/memento: The Game, Reservoir Dogs, Being John Malkavich, Donny Darko (I know there are many more - that's just off the top of my head)

I've seen them all :)

Hey, on topic there is another thread about the 6 different stations on the i