Official All About Helen

[Quiet Tempest]

Hmm.. So, what do you guys think of Helen?

I've got a new theory behind Locke's Helen.. How about the "phone Helen" isn't really a Helen at all. What I mean is maybe Locke refers to her as Helen because he once loved "group therapy Helen"? *giggle* Now watch this idea be shot down by the end of the episode.

[Raven O'Reilly]

She seems pretty spunky. I like her.

[papercutbleeds]

Cant wiat to find out more...

[SickLife]

i think we knew the phone helen wasn't really a 'helen'. she was just some type of phone sex girl locke used for just talking, who he called helen.

[Evil_Seat_Number]

I thought the same thing, posted it on the wrong episode discussion. I agree with you of course. Something probably happened to the helen we see today.

[GodrockDJ]

No, I like that theory Quiet Tempest.

[jjstud8]

No, I like that theory Quiet Tempest.

Helen is Peg from Married with Children. hehe

[GodrockDJ]

Aww, 6 months.

And, um, nice gift ;-)

[Raven O'Reilly]

"Leap of faith. You don't have to be alone."

Well, I think we can see where John gets his faith.

[Quiet Tempest]

I like her. She's apparently the one who gave him hope (aka faith). Awwww ;)

[Verday]

Helen rocks. I like Katey Sagal a lot.

[DeathFromAbove]

I am thinking that the incident that causes Locke to be paralyzed, is when he loses Helen.

[Darth Pipes]

I liked her. As a fan of Married with Children from the beginning, it was good to see Katey Sagal. I'm thinking that Locke broke his promise to her and went back to his father's home, only to have his goons paralyze him.

[Mr Hansa]

I think that part of Locke's story is that Helen was paid by Locke's father to get rid of him.

[andrewbash]

I am thinking that the incident that causes Locke to be paralyzed, is when he loses Helen.

I'm thinking the same thing, although didn't some spoilers say that Locke would get a love intrest this season or were they just refering to the flashbacks?

[IlBLisSlI]

I am thinking that the incident that causes Locke to be paralyzed, is when he loses Helen.

my thoughts exactly

[8-15-23]

the phone helen locke was in wheelchair. do you think tonights flashback is the same woman?

[DeathFromAbove]

the phone helen locke was in wheelchair. do you think tonights flashback is the same woman?


No. The girl Locke was on the phone with was a phone sex operator, whom he most likely asked to pretend to be Helen. Plus, Katey Sagal's voice sounds alot different than the girl on the phone.

[2lostinohio]

Hmm.. So, what do you guys think of Helen?

I've got a new theory behind Locke's Helen.. How about the "phone Helen" isn't really a Helen at all. What I mean is maybe Locke refers to her as Helen because he once loved "group therapy Helen"? *giggle* Now watch this idea be shot down by the end of the episode.

exactly my thought. Locke asks the lady on the phone if he can call her helen, because it makes him feel like he is talking to the helen he once (and apparently will lose at some point) loved.

[stunnedtina]

No I think it's like people have said in this thread, I think the phone sex operator...he just called her Helen (gave her that name) because he'd had this special woman Helen in his past!
I really liked her!! She was kickass and now we know where he got his faith from!

[DomMonOpoly]

I think "phone helen" was a phone operator. Dial 1 for love lol

[cubunit]

I agree that somehow Locke's paralyzation involves Helen and probably the loss of her or her leaving as a result of it. car accident? accident at the boxing plant?

[fanfaire]

I don't know about the spoilers, so this is a wild guess, but do you suppose that Locke wasn't in an accident at all, that his paralysis had a pychological basis? Now, THAT would be an interesting plot twist!

[jjstud8]

The phone Helen also says "I can't meet with customers" or something to that effect but she def says customers

[sylpha]

Good theory that Helen was just someone paid by Locke's dad to get rid of him...technically that would make her a prostitue though :s But I don't think that's the case, because if she was just someone hired by his dad, I don't think Locke would still love her after she's gone, and talk to that phone-sex girl and pretend she was Helen if it turned out she was a fraud, unless she ends up really falling in love with him or something...I'm very interested to see what happens to Helen in later flashbacks.

[jetembers]

I don't know about the spoilers, so this is a wild guess, but do you suppose that Locke wasn't in an accident at all, that his paralysis had a pychological basis? Now, THAT would be an interesting plot twist!
From loosing Helen? I like that idea.

[zoltek]

As others have said, I'm thinking..

A) "Phone sex" Helen is just some woman he calls Helen in order to "ease his pain".

B) He loses her in some sort of accident (car accident?) that leaves him paralyzed.

I'm not sure if I buy the psychological basis for Locke's paralysis, though if that were true, it would make his recovery on the island much more realistic, as opposed to becing cured by some sort of "magic" present on the island.

[jetembers]

That might keep a lot of people happy to know that it's not magic.
Maybe even two lots.

[BrandyRena]

I agree he calls phone sex girl Helen to remind him of real Helen. I liked her.

[sylpha]

I'm pretty certain his paralysis was psychosomatic. although believing in some sort of "force" or "spirit" on the island wouldn't be so far-fetched...

[Wolfeman]

I'm pretty certain his paralysis was psychosomatic. although believing in some sort of "force" or "spirit" on the island wouldn't be so far-fetched...

I've been saying this since the begining. I think he couldn't walk because his mind wouldn't let them and the crash shook him out of it. When he started to slip back into his old feelings he started to not be able to walk. When Boone got hurt he realized what he had done and he was on his feet, no problem...

[AmyMac]

To go along with the psychosomatic thing and the rest of the theories we have going here this is what I thought after watching last night.

Locke is driving the car, Helen is with him, they have an accident, she dies. His grief, guilt, and anger cause him to be paralyzied. That's what I think.

[buffyfan145]

I really like Helen!!! She's seems pretty cool. LOL I'm also thinking that maybe Locke and Helen were in a car crash too, or something like that. But I'm pretty sure that she doesn't die, cuz Locke was taking to her on the phone in "Walkabout".

[xadrian]

And now, because we all like this idea of the psychosomatic trauma car crash, it will come to pass.

Witness the power of the Hanso Innitiative.

Anyone else impressed at how good Katey Segal looked? She was striking and very easy on the eyes. Couldn't help but pick that up. Go Leela.

[*Pauly*]

what makes this official? ;)

I've always thought maybe the Helen we see is not connected to the woman on the phone. It seemed way too much like a sex line. Why would it charge more every hour? I think he found someone called Helen (or calls her that as a pet name) to manifest his desires for Helen, a woman from his past.

[Xena_Lost]

What we need are more backstories to explain what happened to Helen and Locke and the paralysis.

[AmyMac]

I completely agree PolarBear. I think that after she dies in the crash he's lonely and calls this sex line and asks her if he can call her Helen to keep up the fantasy that she is really alive and he can still talk to her.

[Soxgirl]

Hmm.. So, what do you guys think of Helen?

I've got a new theory behind Locke's Helen.. How about the "phone Helen" isn't really a Helen at all. What I mean is maybe Locke refers to her as Helen because he once loved "group therapy Helen"? *giggle* Now watch this idea be shot down by the end of the episode.

I have been trying to rationalize helen and I think you did it for me, this makes sense, I agree.

[aurigus]

I think he accidentally calls Kate "Helen" one time - maybe he has some sort of hangup about her and calls women "Helen" sometimes.

[dcstealth]

I figure there is an accident, and for whatever reason, Locke CANNOT get to Helen to save her. Perhaps pinned by a car/debris etc. This caused his psychosomatic paralysis, and the plane reminded him of the situation, causing his symptoms to reappear

[AdversePlaceboFX]

I liked Helen a lot. But not so much the younger version of Locke. He was fidgity and lacked the confidence he exudes now ... or even in the scenes prior to the plane crash. Even physically, the current Locke looks as though he could kick the $&#% out of his former self.

I look forward to seeing any upcoming flashbacks which show whether: she left him due to his inability to "Let it go" (how Jack-like!) regarding his father/kidney-con-artist; or if she died. (Why does everyone feel it has to be in a car accident? Because of Locke's VW? Why couldn't it be tantric sex gone terribly awry? :p)

Psychosomatic or real injury...? I'm still leaning toward the former.

Need a little help here:
Q: What did throwing the VW key over the wall achieve? Wouldn't that just prolong the amount of time he now had to stay there? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Was it just to emphasize her displeasure?

[*Pauly*]

Maybe it forces him to face his dad again something he does fear but can't escape as he goes back to his house all the time.

[Mal de Mer]

Helen rocked, she seemed like she was soooo together. I like that part when she said "I like bald guys." Then Locke says "I'm not bald." Then Helen says "I'll wait." Very cool. I agree with the thinking that she is not the phone Helen of Season 1.

[*Pauly*]

omg yeah I loved that part! That was so awesome thanks for reminding me :)

[chicah]

Locke is not really the kind of man that calls sex lines, I think...

But maybe Helen's boss or something refused Helen to go out with Locke, because he was really a customer. If she didn't listen, she would get fired. But Locke didn't give up on her, and kept calling her, but now she couldn't go out with him anymore. It could be the same Helen.

[Wolfeman]

I really like Helen!!! She's seems pretty cool. LOL I'm also thinking that maybe Locke and Helen were in a car crash too, or something like that. But I'm pretty sure that she doesn't die, cuz Locke was taking to her on the phone in "Walkabout".
The Helen on the phone in the first season is a phone sex operator. Locke probably told the operator he wants her name to be Helen. She either left him or she dies...

Locke is not really the kind of man that calls sex lines, I think...

But maybe Helen's boss or something refused Helen to go out with Locke, because he was really a customer. If she didn't listen, she would get fired. But Locke didn't give up on her, and kept calling her, but now she couldn't go out with him anymore. It could be the same Helen.
Locke is defenatly the kind of guy that would call a sex line, not for the sex talk but for the company, the human contact. By that time he was obviously pretty lonely.

[dcstealth]

Al Bundy would never let Kate work at a phone sex place ! (Maybe it was Marcy)
Really, Helen was probably the only person Locke ever cared about, and if she was
killed, he would want the anonymity of a phone call relationship to avoid future losses.

[jigsawyer]

Anyone else impressed at how good Katey Segal looked? She was striking and very easy on the eyes. Couldn't help but pick that up.

Yes. Better than the horrible wig and costume she wore on ...married.

[Wolfeman]

Yes. Better than the horrible wig and costume she wore on ...married.

I like her better as Leela...
http://www.tammyhocking.com/cartoons/lady-leela.jpg

[Quiet Tempest]

Oh, I love her as Leela. ;)

But more on Helen... I think she was the thing that filled John's void. His mom is coo-coo-bananas and his dad made it very clear that he was "not wanted". Helen actually loves him. I think he's really overwhelmed by the whole the situation. It must be so hard to let go of the only remote sense of "love" and "acceptance" he ever had... poor Locke.

I'm dying to know what happened to separate the two, and perhaps more importantly.. When did Locke grow some gonads? ;)

Most likely Locke's been calling the 900-number regularly for companionship. He doesn't strike me as a sex fiend ;). Whether the operator's name is actually Helen or not, I'm not sure. I definately do not believe that the "phone Helen" is the same woman as Locke's girlfriend in Orientation. Maybe it's purely coincidental? Maybe Locke requested a "Helen". Hopefully, we'll find out more soon.

[Manda]

Ok well, I don't know if this has been posted but I just wanted to add in my two cents. First of all, I agree that the Helen on the phone was some osrt of phone sex operator. Also, he most defiently loses Helen in the same accident that he is paralyzed. I think that this will coincide with however Jack loses his wife. I'm guessing she dies as well in some sort of accident. Hm anyone notice how everything involves car accidents. Kate's boyfriend being killed, Micheal being hit, Jack's wife being in the accident. And Locke losing Helen I'm sure is from a car accident too or something like that. Strange. Anyways, that's my theory. Locke and Jack are connected in more ways than they know.

[Jed]

Helen is Peg from Married with Children. hehe

Also a former back up singer. She sang backup for "Kiss", Bob Dylan and Bette Midler.

[Amelia]

I also believe that Helen from season one was a sex phone operator. She clearly says that she will have to charge him to keep talking to him. I also think he loses Helen but I don't know that she is killed in a car accident. I don't think we have any concrete evidence that this happens at this time or that John locke is paralysed that way either.

There may be a connection between Shannon and Jack though that involves cars as the man Sarah, jack's wife hits and kills with her car has the same last name as Shannon. He may have been her father since we know he's dead.

[Hunter]

Personally, I think that it is the same Helen. I think that she wasn't allowed to date Locke because he was a coustumer. And the reason her voice is different on the phone wloud probably be because she is older. I also think that Helen did go with Locke to the Walkabout, and got on the bus without him, and when she saw that he wasn't on, she got off and asked the manager what happened. When he said that he was going back to the states, she bought a ticket, and ended up in the back of the plane.

There, thats my two cents.

~Hunter

[Roanna]

That might keep a lot of people happy to know that it's not magic.
Maybe even two lots.

:crackup:

great comment! thanks!

[jamieclo]

My hubby thinks that Helen was a plant hired by Locke's "dad." I go one step further - I don't think that's Locke's dad. Just my opinion - don't everyone jump all over me, but...

He says "You wanted a father FIGURE, I wanted a liver..." Father FIGURE? WTF? A father figure is someone that acts like a father in your life. Wouldn't it make more sense for him to say "You wanted a father, I wanted a liver..." ??? Maybe so? "Dad" holds him at arm's length and says he isn't wanted. What would have made more sense was "You were never wanted" or "I still don't want you" - something that implies longevity.

*gasp* am I on to something, or just looney tunes? :o

[Roanna]

Yes. Better than the horrible wig and costume she wore on ...married.

She looks great! she really is such a good actress, hope we see more of her ...

as far as her being the same Helen as the phone line, Katey Segal has a very distinctive voice, and sounds nothing like the phone Helen, at least in my humble opinion

AND so as not to double post, I totally didn't get the point of her throwing his car keys over the gate. ?????? But they did tell us that EVERYTHING has meaning!

This show just keeps getting better (altho I had a bit of trouble with Jack's freakout but that belongs on another thread I am sure!)

[Skeddi]

Other reason why the thelephone-Helen isn't the same as the helpgroup-Helen is the timeline:
1.when talking to the telephone-Helen he notices that he knows her already for 8 months, this is only some days, weeks before going to Australia for the Walkabout
2.when he is in Australia talking to that guy in the office, he mentions that he already is living 4 years with this condition, aka the paralysis
3.when he meets with helpgroup-Helen, he isn't paralyzed yet

So in no way they can be the same.

[Wolfeman]

Other reason why the thelephone-Helen isn't the same as the helpgroup-Helen is the timeline:
1.when talking to the telephone-Helen he notices that he knows her already for 8 months, this is only some days, weeks before going to Australia for the Walkabout
2.when he is in Australia talking to that guy in the office, he mentions that he already is living 4 years with this condition, aka the paralysis
3.when he meets with helpgroup-Helen, he isn't paralyzed yet

So in no way they can be the same.

Good job! There was no way it was her in my mind but some people just love to be different :P

[lisalisacultjam]

I don't know about the spoilers, so this is a wild guess, but do you suppose that Locke wasn't in an accident at all, that his paralysis had a pychological basis? Now, THAT would be an interesting plot twist!

Do we know for sure that Locke was paralyzed? Or is he just in a wheelchair due to some crippling disease? My thought is that maybe he is has MS or other neurological problem that was "fixed" when he landed on the island due to the giant electromagnet? Electromagnets have been used in medicine to treat lots of things from MS to Parkinsons etc. Just a theory.

[lost/wwe fan]

I read this entire thread and I want to put my two cents into a lot of what people are thinking.

First, the reason that Helen threw the keys over the fence was to make Locke chose. He could take a leap of faith and go with Helen or he could live a sad life watching his father.

Second, at first, I thought that the 2 Helens were the same. I thought that maybe their relationship went south and he was only a customer now. But after reading Skeddi's post, it makes sense that there not the same. Or it could be a mistake by the producers. I hope it's not or I won't like this show as much.

Lastly, I don't think it was a car crash tha caused Locke's paralysis or possibly Helen's death. I think it's something more unexpected than that.

[Wolfeman]

Lastly, I don't think it was a car crash tha caused Locke's paralysis or possibly Helen's death. I think it's something more unexpected than that.
Car crashes have been used a lot already so I'd be very surprised too if they have him get into a car crash. Its got to be something thats devistating enough to cause Locke to have psychosomatic paralysis.

[SusieQ]

I agree with someone who posted earlier. I think that Helen was killed in the car accident (I know this hasn't been verified, just a thought) that left Locke paralysed. I think he was driving the car, chasing after his father and lost control. His guilt over causing the accident that killed Helen is what changed him. Maybe he is trying to attone for going against the advise she gave him to let his father go and get on with his life. He knows what not letting go has cost him and tries to get the others (no pun intended) to not make the same mistakes. I think that he called the phone sex girl "Helen" because he
still needed the connection to the other Helen. I could be waaay off base here.

[fanfaire]

Ooh, I hadn't thought of the electromagnetic field on the island providing a temporary cure for Locke. Maybe he was in a wheelchair from an illness and Helen left him because she couldn't deal with him being a "cripple"? I like Helen and would hope she wouldn't be that cruel, but it would provide an unexpected plot twist.

[LostSurvivors]

Maybe that's just coincidence, all his girlfriends are called Helen? or is it the same Helen?

[Erstwhile Lurker]

She seems pretty spunky. I like her.She really seems to care about Locke.

[buffyfan145]

I really don't know now. I at first thought it might be the same Helen, but if she died, it couldn't be the same one.

[Eccoglyph]

First, the reason that Helen threw the keys over the fence was to make Locke chose. He could take a leap of faith and go with Helen or he could live a sad life watching his father.
Finally someone got the point! This was a powerful moment and I couldn't stand that people didn't see it. Thank you sooo much, lost/wwe fan.

And I truly hope the writers don't use another car accident to further Locke's plot. I don't think they will. I very much like the idea of nothing being physically wrong with Locke - he'll never admit it was in his head but the flashbacks will prove otherwise.

And I REALLY like the idea that Helen was hired by his father. She does seem to truly love him, but if he found out that he was deceived - haha... well, Locke is a little sensitive about deception by those he loves.

Finally- jamieclo - that really is Locke's father. He specifically needed Locke because he needed a donor match. His son would stand a good chance of being compatible.

[SHANNONfan~]

I don't have much to add to the discussion other than Helen rocked in the episode :)

[Mr.Guybrush]

Could it be that the only way to move on from his father, was to obssess about something else? Could it be, that Locke accidentally, or perhaps intentially killed Helen to release his anger from his father? Enabling him to shift his grief.

When he realised what he'd done, he became wheelchair bound, realising the selflishness of his actions, and the fact he'd killed the only thing he ever trully loved? He secluded himself in his house, only going to work. His new destiny was to goto Australia and renew himself, being on the island is like being in Church for Locke, he's being baptised.

[Jan74]

I think that the that Locke would get a love interest this season was when they were casting someone for the part of Libby, to be played by Cynthia Watros; they advertised for a sexy woman in her late 40s, but they ended up going with Watros who is only 35 or something like that. So either Locke is gonna go for a young 'un, or they are gonna make her someone else's love interest, and Locke gets no love?

[Noetic]

I don't know about the spoilers, so this is a wild guess, but do you suppose that Locke wasn't in an accident at all, that his paralysis had a pychological basis? Now, THAT would be an interesting plot twist!
I said for a while it might be partly psychological, which would explain why he can walk again after the shock of the plane crash, and why he can lose the use of his legs when under stress (when he goes looking for the plane with Boone).

[LUKEYP]

Helen is Peg from Married with Children. hehe

I wondered where I'd seen her before. Couldn't put a name to the face.

[Filthy Deryk]

i think helen threw the keys over the fence because women do all kinds of crazy shit when you lie to them, such as cutting up all your clothing, melting your cd collection over a bonfire of hatred or putting your dog in the oven and slowly gassing it to death.

[realityshowhater]

ummmmmmm, no, ya see, that's just weird. She did it to make him choose, and he chose her so now everyone's all happy! yay! :)

[Beej]

My hubby thinks that Helen was a plant hired by Locke's "dad." I go one step further - I don't think that's Locke's dad. Just my opinion - don't everyone jump all over me, but...

He says "You wanted a father FIGURE, I wanted a liver..." Father FIGURE? WTF? A father figure is someone that acts like a father in your life. Wouldn't it make more sense for him to say "You wanted a father, I wanted a liver..." ??? Maybe so? "Dad" holds him at arm's length and says he isn't wanted. What would have made more sense was "You were never wanted" or "I still don't want you" - something that implies longevity.

*gasp* am I on to something, or just looney tunes? :o
I'd go with looney tunes :p

If it wasn't Locke's dad, how would he have know that they'd be a match for the kidneys?

I agree that it's very likely that Helen was hired by Locke's Dad to get rid of Locke. It's his style.

[chrismo16]

I don't think Helen was hired by Lock's "dad". If so, she would not inspire his faith since she would have betrayed him as well. I also don't think she died in an accident. It would be pretty f***ed up to continue her memory by fantasizing shes on the phone when its really a phone sex operator! I agree with the theory that Lock ends up stalking his "dad" once again, gets beat up by the guards, and Helen leaves him for not following through on his promise. Let me know what you guys think.

[LostSurvivors]

Yeah chrismo16, You might be right! His legs could be his dad's fault again! Who knows? Maybe the guards did something, like you said.

[Hatch Handle]

sould be a case of stockholm syndrome here. maybe helen was hired by lockes dad to get rid of him in a nasty way only for her to fall in love with john and try to get him away from his dad using faith?

so im thinking that when johns dad finds this out he is pissed and decides to get rid of both of them. helen dies where as john only gets paralysed in say a car crash?

[AdversePlaceboFX]

I agree with the theory that Lock ends up stalking his "dad" once again, gets beat up by the guards, and Helen leaves him for not following through on his promise. Let me know what you guys think.

Sounds more plausable to me as well, that he somehow becomes non-ambulatory in his pursuit of stalking his father - resulting in Helen giving up on him. Provides for more Yin-yang balance: Helen loses her faith and John gains his.

[Colonel_Kurtz]

I think Helen is an escort girl, paid by Locke's father... and Locke will discover it, he will feel betrayed again and will become "crazy" and lose his legs, following an emotional "collapse".

[8-15-23]

I'd go with looney tunes :p

If it wasn't Locke's dad, how would he have know that they'd be a match for the kidneys?

I agree that it's very likely that Helen was hired by Locke's Dad to get rid of Locke. It's his style.

maybe "locke's Dad" is a big donor to the Hanso Foundation (whatever the island DHARMA INITIATIVE research sponsor name is) after all he seems rich. Maybe he was a selfish donor-giving money to medical research-to find a cure for some liver disease and he had access to database of medical donors. so maybe he isnt lockes dad, he is just a father figure, a rich benefactor for liver research. maybe helen was his nurse!

[Count2Five]

I think the "call girl Helen" is not the same Helen as this Helen. I think that something happens to this Helen (the one in Orientation), and Locke tries to recapture what he had with her, by calling up some other girl named "Helen" to just talk to her like he was once able to do with this woman.

[Rph]

the helen on the phone and the group therapist helen dont sound the same anyway, there voice is different. also did u guys notice when the call girl helen says maybe u should find a therapist, and john says i have a therapist. ???

[murbot]

Has to be a different Helen. The Helen we saw in 2x03 would have gone on the walkabout with him if he invited her. She wanted to be part of his life, as long as he wanted her to be a part of his. If she didn't want to go with him, should would have stopped talking to him and we wouldn't have heard locke say, "This is what we've been talking about for 8 months".

[Backlash]

Prediction : Locke's going to need his keys. He'll climb over the fence to get them. A security guard will shoot him. He'll be paralyzed by the bullet.

[Jan74]

Prediction : Locke's going to need his keys. He'll climb over the fence to get them. A security guard will shoot him. He'll be paralyzed by the bullet.

I like this theory the best so far. This of course drives him and Helen apart.

[murbot]

I like this theory the best so far. This of course drives him and Helen apart.

I like it too, but it was Helen who threw the keys over....Oh, well yeah, ok this makes sense.

[chrismo16]

I just watched the epi when Lock, Kate, and Michael went hunting for boar. When Micchael is charged by a boar, Locke falls on the ground. He looks like he starts to panic and looks at his toes possably thinking he is paralized again. When Kate asks if he is OK, he says something like "I just had the wind knocked out of me HELEN". This may have been what he said to Helen when his "dad" or the guards did whatever they may have done to him that paralized him in the first place. Could add weight to my theory posted above.

[Rasputin]

...when he is in Australia talking to that guy in the office, he mentions that he already is living 4 years with this condition, aka the paralysis


Maybe the condition he refers to here is his missing kidney. I don't recall it being clear that he was paralyzed in the walkabout office. He was sitting I think. Do we just assume the rest...that he's paralyzed then.

I must confess I also suspected Helen was working for Locke's father, like they are both con artists that worked together in the past. Maybe she owed him a favor.

[CptNemo]

Or maybe the kidney transplant eventually fails, and Locke's dad runs over Locke by car to get revenge or his other kidney. Locke is left paralysed, Helen leaves him because of the whole can't have sex anymore ordeal and the half crazed Locke ends up replacing Helen's company with a hot line girl...
Dude that would be totally f*ed up.

[Speedie]

If Lockes paralysis was psychoscomatic (however it's spelt), that would explain a few things -

1. How come he cab walk again on the island
2. How he lost the feeling in his legs again before Boone got up in the plane and got himself squished.

[SteveHolt]

[QUOTE=Rasputin]Maybe the condition he refers to here is his missing kidney. I don't recall it being clear that he was paralyzed in the walkabout office. He was sitting I think. Do we just assume the rest...that he's paralyzed then.


Dude, that's the scene where we find out that he's paralyzed.

Furthermore:

Given 1) Locke has been "living with this condition" for 4 years

and

2) He has only been talking to the phone "Helen" for 8 months

Therefore, the phone Helen and the Katey Sagal character cannot be the same person.

[murbot]

[QUOTE=Rasputin]Maybe the condition he refers to here is his missing kidney. I don't recall it being clear that he was paralyzed in the walkabout office. He was sitting I think. Do we just assume the rest...that he's paralyzed then.


Dude, that's the scene where we find out that he's paralyzed.

Furthermore:

Given 1) Locke has been "living with this condition" for 4 years

and

2) He has only been talking to the phone "Helen" for 8 months

Therefore, the phone Helen and the Katey Sagal character cannot be the same person.


Good points!
Nice name cousin kisser. :p

[Gotlost]

I was so amazed to see Katey segal as helen, but she did it very good, like here in 8 simple rules too.
I saw a lot of good theories, At first I also thought that locke's dad hired here to get rid of him, but I think there is more to her, I think she died in some way that also has something to do with locke getting in a wheelchair.
We have to wait till we all know for sure:eek: ;)

[beth]

At first I also thought that locke's dad hired here to get rid of him,

thats a cool theory but she seemed pretty genuine, can't wait to see how it unfolds. i think she's definately got something to do with how locke became paralysed though.

[soumya86]

B) He loses her in some sort of accident (car accident?) that leaves him paralyzed.

I bet its something to do with lockes dad

[bigandy2310]

dont know why this isnt on the forum, if t is i cant find it.

ave a look at this link http://flight815.blogspot.com/ and scroll half way down the page. the two scientists in the dharma headquarters look like the captures of walt. im sure these are the same characters.

[blonde_bombshell]

Maybe Helen dumps him because he can't move on, that's the impression I got. But we won't know what happens to her until Lockdown.