Survivors of rear section of plane

[TLAWMAI]

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it kind of ridiculous that anyone who was sitting in the back of that airplane would have survived? The tail section broke off and presumably slammed into the ground, not having the benefit of engines or wings to slow the descent. I wonder how, or if, they will explain how these rear plane folks made it. :confused:

[lovejuice]

what I find ridiculous is that after a little over a month (44 days) these people have turned into mindless savages .... I mean if I were stuck on an island and two people washed up on shore - 3 for that matter - I sure would treat them nice seeing they might be my ticket off the place ...

who knows, maybe they have been attacked multiple times already and it has pushed them to this place of mind

[tommerp]

Mysteries to be revealed..... Actually, how could a plane land, crash, whatever with it's tail section missing? Areodynamics would have been way off and I would think that both parts would have just started tumbling in mid air. I think that is part of the draw - "How did these people survive this plane crash?"

[Bridge of Clay]

becausa it's more likely the crash was unusual due the "defense system" the island has... if it's an island! hehehe

[TLAWMAI]

I have read other threads here that suggest that these other survivors have been infected by the "sickness" that Desmond asks about. Still though, it's just too farfecthed, even for this show, that someone walks away from what essentially equates to skydiving without a parachute. But maybe they will explain it at a later time? Who knows.... :)

[TLAWMAI]

Actually, how could a plane land, crash, whatever with it's tail section missing? Areodynamics would have been way off and I would think that both parts would have just started tumbling in mid air. I think that is part of the draw - "How did these people survive this plane crash?"

Good point... I was thinking they were taking some creative liberty with the main section of the plane, possibly inferring that it was somewhat "flyable" in the last few seconds before it hit. But yes, nobody should have survived at all. But I will be disappointed if they don't apply some sort of reasoning to it at some point, even if the reasoning is supernatural--at least it would explain it.

[Nozoki]

I find it ridiculous that anyone in that plane crash survived from 40,000. Part of the island's mystery I guess. Even the drug smugglers died and they were probably less than 3,000 feet up and in a plane that was intact and could probably land with no engine.

[TLAWMAI]

I find it ridiculous that anyone in that plane crash survived from 40,000. Part of the island's mystery I guess. Even the drug smugglers died and they were probably less than 3,000 feet up and in a plane that was intact and could probably land with no engine.

They have definitely left out a large chunk of "footage" of the plane going from 40,000 feet to the ground. At one instant the tail breaks off, the next moment the people are wandering around the beach among the burning wreckage. There's a HUGE hole of events that they don't show. Maybe they will later? I hope so...

[Elbatcho]

Tail section does have wings and although it may have tumbled in the air it may not have plumeted. From the previews we have only seen one survior which is possible since in some Asia country a couple of years ago a plane crashed and everyone died except one person who came out with cuts and a broken leg. Anything is possible and we have all assumed that more than one person lived when the tail section ripped off.

Also comerical jets don't fly at 40,000 feet, I think they top out at 36,000 feet. The plane had been droping from turbalance and the pilot may be flying lower, after the mask came out, SOP is to drop alitude when oxygen mask deploy.

[lostfan29]

I find it ridiculous that anyone in that plane crash survived from 40,000. Part of the island's mystery I guess. Even the drug smugglers died and they were probably less than 3,000 feet up and in a plane that was intact and could probably land with no engine.

No offense, but if you've watched Lost for over a season and expect everything to be 100% true to reality you must be on drugs or something. Last season we had multiple polar bears on a tropical island, and a man who was paralyzed suddenly able to walk after a horrific plane crash that 48 people miraculously survived. We also had a 'psychic' telling Claire things he couldn't have known without actually being psychic, a series of 'cursed' numbers which are somehow connected to the island, and Ethan, a man with 'super strength' who was supposedly not even on the plane to begin with! There is a phrase that applies here, it's called "suspension of disbelief" and you employ it any time you watch an action movie, or pretty much any movie or TV show. The bottom line is that Lost has been taking some liberties with what would 'really' happen for a while now. Either accept it, suspend your disbelief, and enjoy the show, or watch some procedural legal show or some 'reality' TV.

[Nozoki]

I thought Jack said it was about 44,000 feet when they hit the turbulance and dropped down to 40,000. Still a long way to fall. I think we'll see more of the crash later. Hopefully it explains how so many people survived with no injuries. Even Jack makes a comment about that. He said they should all be dead.

[Mal de Mer]

Yeah, happens all the time, falling 7.5 miles in a metal shell, strapped to a 400 lb seat upon impact. I doubt the security system could reach up that high and slice the plane in half, and bring it down with minimal loss of life. They should all be dead.

[Nozoki]

No offense, but if you've watched Lost for over a season and expect everything to be 100% true to reality you must be on drugs or something. Last season we had multiple polar bears on a tropical island, and a man who was paralyzed suddenly able to walk after a horrific plane crash that 48 people miraculously survived. We also had a 'psychic' telling Claire things he couldn't have known without actually being psychic, a series of 'cursed' numbers which are somehow connected to the island, and Ethan, a man with 'super strength' who was supposedly not even on the plane to begin with! There is a phrase that applies here, it's called "suspension of disbelief" and you employ it any time you watch an action movie, or pretty much any movie or TV show. The bottom line is that Lost has been taking some liberties with what would 'really' happen for a while now. Either accept it, suspend your disbelief, and enjoy the show, or watch some procedural legal show or some 'reality' TV.

That's why I said "part of the island's mystery". There's a lot of not so normal stuff happening there, surviving a fall from 40,000 feet being the first, and if the pilot had told them they tried to make an emergengy landing on this island in the middle of nowhere but the plane cacked up on impact, that would explain more people surviving the crash with the minimal suspension of disbelief. But since a character on the show said that they were 40,000 feet up when the plane fell apart and that they should all be dead from that, then I'm expecting more of an explanation. And yes, I do know how to suspend my disbelief. Sawyer pulling bullets out of his arm, the psychic stuff, Sawyer's severed artery knife wound miraculously healing, etc. And I hate almost all "reality" tv and legal shows. Hell, most of them require more suspension of disbelief than anything on "Lost".

[Elbatcho]

Yeah, happens all the time, falling 7.5 miles in a metal shell, strapped to a 400 lb seat upon impact. I doubt the security system could reach up that high and slice the plane in half, and bring it down with minimal loss of life. They should all be dead.But that's the thing IT CAN HAPPEN It's rare when it does but it does happen from time to time. Also they have found in studies that planes which crash have a high count of people not showing up for the flight. Just wanted to add that in because it's a cool wierd little fact. There are lots of cases where people should have died but didn't, from the guy with nine nails in his head, too the Rugby team in the Andies who survied by eating the dead. I am not saying everyone would die failing from the sky but it is possible for one to survive. Plus it's a TV show the writers can do what they want %70 of all stat's are made up and %80 of people belive them%60 of the time :)

[Nozoki]

Also they have found in studies that planes which crash have a high count of people not showing up for the flight.

Wasn't that from a movie?

[Scarlett]

This may be a stupid question, but are those people that Jin called "the udders" the tail section people? I saw promo pics of Michelle Rod. (Ana Lucia) punching Sawyer, but I assumed it was her character being harsh and manly as usual...do you think that the other survivors think that our survivors are the others?
I agree that it's hard to believe anyone survived in that back section, but hey--like several people have said, it's hard to believe anyone survived. It's like Sayid said, it's extremely weird that so many people made it w/ only a few scratches. It's the island I suppose...
Is anyone else really resentful of the tail section people? I just wish we could keep with the original cast.

[filostlover]

Maybe the fall was from 42 thousand feet. hehehe

[youngwasp]

....rather unhappy.

Poor geezer was lucky enough to fall in a disintegrating aircraft many thousands of feet at some 400mph and walk away - yet the next plane he boards, he flies just 50ft at about 40mph and dies.

[Flipvert]

Just a quick comment here....

First off the section on plane that the survivors were in (ie jack , kate, locke, etc) was the MIDDLE section....

The FRONT section was further in the jungle in episode 1, with the pilot still alive... so... that makes the tail section... IMO... a little hard to believe... as well as the MIDDLE section... suspend disbelief, yeah maybe, for the original series survivors and I could be forced to for 2nd season, but I really REALLY hope they write in a feasible explanation for the tail section people at LEAST...

[Colonel_Kurtz]

Maybe the crash didn't really happen... the so-called "survivors" may have been druged and put on the island by an other way. Only Kate has a real memmory of the plane dislocating itself... maybe this crash is just an illusion... a kind of falsification.

[Anita_Louise]

....rather unhappy.

Poor geezer was lucky enough to fall in a disintegrating aircraft many thousands of feet at some 400mph and walk away - yet the next plane he boards, he flies just 50ft at about 40mph and dies.

Lol, am I wrong for finding that funny? Talk about ironic :P Poor, poor Boone though. He didn't need to die.

[thefonz]

hands up who still thinks this is one long acid trip from Hurley's days in the psyke ward?

*raises hand*

*noone else raises their hand*

*lowers hand*

ah well.

:rolleyes:

[Colonel_Kurtz]

Lot's Productors said that the events on the island really happen (which means it's not a dream, a bad trip, a psychedelic experience, a kind of hypnosis therapy, and so on..). But they didn't say that the crash really happens.

[filostlover]

But they didn't say that the crash really happens. ahh I like your thinking. Maybe it didn't happen, but then how DID they get on the island?

[thefonz]

ahh I like your thinking. Maybe it didn't happen, but then how DID they get on the island?

Perhaps by Fedex?

[youngwasp]

....in episode 27, they find Tom Hank's volleyball.

[ericcoaster]

what was the volleyball's name? frank or somethin?

[Locke For Mayor]

Its name was Wilson

[thunderbird]

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/gwr5/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=43941
interesting/amazing story, especially possibly surviving a bomb explosion as well

[muck22]

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/gwr5/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=43941
interesting/amazing story, especially possibly surviving a bomb explosion as well

:eek: Wow that would suck. So I guess pretty much anything's possible!

[galligirl]

what I find ridiculous is that after a little over a month (44 days) these people have turned into mindless savages .... I mean if I were stuck on an island and two people washed up on shore - 3 for that matter - I sure would treat them nice seeing they might be my ticket off the place ...

who knows, maybe they have been attacked multiple times already and it has pushed them to this place of mind

Remember the situation in New Orleans? It doesn't take long for people to turn into mindless savages. Lack of sleep, food and water plus stress and weird island shite = BAD.

[Speedie]

Maybe the crash didn't really happen... the so-called "survivors" may have been druged and put on the island by an other way. Only Kate has a real memmory of the plane dislocating itself... maybe this crash is just an illusion... a kind of falsification.

That was what I was thinking too. Maybe it's some kind of TV Gameshow!!!!!

[BOONE182]

....rather unhappy.

Poor geezer was lucky enough to fall in a disintegrating aircraft many thousands of feet at some 400mph and walk away - yet the next plane he boards, he flies just 50ft at about 40mph and dies.

LMFAO DUDE, good point i never took notice.
as for the topic, we saw inside the plane, it rips in half and people would just plummet to earth and gettin sucked out, now HTF do you survive that,
also they reckon ( producers ) that it really was a real crash and it actually happened, like it wasnt a fake crash setup by the evil island people , whatever. i really hope im not dissappointed by the explanation