Do you feel like nothing happened in the episode?

[Leah Kate]

Is it just me, or does it feel like nothing much really happened in "Adrift"? I mean, there were some great moments, like the Michael/Sawyer interaction and, well, okay, maybe that's it.... It just seems like we're pretty much where we were after last week's ep, with a few minor steps forward. Even Michael's flashbacks were completely boring and unnecessary - they didn't tell us anything AT ALL about his relationship with Walt that we didn't already know.

Maybe I'm just being cynical, but with only 22 eps a season, it seems like a pity to use up so much potential storyline on so little story.

[andrewbash]

yeah I was hoping for more progression in the storyline, instead we got around 2 mins. of "new" content.

[Passion]

We found out alot of stuff.

Where Kate was/is.

The supplies and food in the hatch.

That Locke doesnt have anything to do with what was inside the hatch.

That Desmond has not recognized Jack.

What happened to Michael and Sawyer.

That Jin is alive, but was discovered by mysterious people.

We found out that Michael did want to have a relationship with Walt, as he tried to keep Walt's mother grounded.

And you say only 22, but you must have forgotten last season when there were many more slowly progressing episodes then this.

[andrewbash]

We found out alot of stuff.

Where Kate was/is.

The supplies and food in the hatch.

That Locke doesnt have anything to do with what was inside the hatch.

That Desmond has not recognized Jack.

What happened to Michael and Sawyer.

That Jin is alive, but was discovered by mysterious people.

We found out that Michael did want to have a relationship with Walt, as he tried to keep Walt's mother grounded.

And you say only 22, but you must have forgotten last season when there were many more slowly progressing episodes then this.

yeah but there wasn't any progression in the storyline.

[Amar]

Yup nothing happened. We're still on that same night. I think NOW in episode 3 the story line's gonna move forward. It feels like it's been the Season Finale for 5 hours now.

[LOSTSOL]

and whats with the 4 minute commercial breaks...i guess lost is prime real estate, and theyre giving out a lot of it...and probably at a hefty premium, given ratings, emmys, etc.

[Leah Kate]

But most of those points could have been made much more succintly, without retelling the entire hatch story from Locke's and Kate's perspective. That just wasn't necessary. It could have happened last week, even, if they'd shortened some of Jack's flashback scenes a little.

[Passion]

yeah but there wasn't any progression in the storyline.
In Locke/Jack/Kate's storyline...no.

But Michael and Sawyer's storyline sure as hell moved along...should we have just forgot about them and made it the hatch show?

And I dont know about you, but I wanted to know where Kate was...why she was screaming...why Locke said 'I wouldnt do that'...what happened in between the time Locke went in the hatch and Jack got down there.

[chainofflowers1]

I agree... no major progression in the story line... And who says Desmond doesn't recognize Jack? We don't know that for sure! And as for "finding out" Michael wanted a realtionship with Walt, we already knew that! In the first Michael-centric episode he keeps trying to see Walt, but Susan won't let him, so that is nothing new.

[IamLOST922]

Yeah, I guess that there wasn't much 'action' in this episode but I absolutly loved it. I liked seeing the hatch moments from Kate and Locke's POV and my guess is that it was all completely necassary for understanding future events. I also liked all the Sawyer/Micheal moments. It would be kind of silly if they just ended up on the island right away. I think they needed to have an episode like that.

[Passion]

I agree... no major progression in the story line... And who says Desmond doesn't recognize Jack? We don't know that for sure!
He got a pretty good look at him throught the telescope.

He also was told his name and profession.

If Desmond really had a mission in talking to Jack like some people say, then he would have definitely remembered Jack-Doctor-Plane Crash

[sam2005]

Yeah, they basically just told us a bunch of details.

I really found the Mike and Sawyer parts to be kind of unbearable. "This is your fault! Are you saying this is my fault?!? Wait a minute, this is YOUR fault!!!" That must have happened 3 different times.

[Reema]

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed too. We didn*t learn too much by going back in time and showing us how Jack got where he was. All we learned was about the timer thing, which they could have brought up at any other time. It was seriously the biggest filler show of the entire show. :rant:

[Passion]

I agree... no major progression in the story line... And who says Desmond doesn't recognize Jack? We don't know that for sure! And as for "finding out" Michael wanted a realtionship with Walt, we already knew that! In the first Michael-centric episode he keeps trying to see Walt, but Susan won't let him, so that is nothing new.
That was when Walt was a baby, and that was one on one with her...nearly casual talk.

It showed that down the line, Michael went as far as to go through the legal system to keep his son around.

[Leah Kate]

Maybe he just didn't want Locke to know that he knew who Jack was...

As for the rest, I kinda thought it was fun when Locke tied Kate up, just because I'm twisted like that. But would my life have been incomplete if I didn't know that she craves chocolate and is freakishly limber? No. :p

[LOSTSOL]

all i remember saying during the sawyer/michael interaction was how their dialogue made it onto the show? It was just too much of the same. But then again, everything is put into this show for a reason.

[zapp645]

im in agreement. we stayed on the same night and that's slightly dissapointing. is this the first time lost has done this? the same event two weeks in a row from two different characters? i think so... at any rate, next week will bea doozy

[Leah Kate]

Totally agree about the Sawyer/Michael "this is all your fault" stuff. I mean, these are grown men, not 11-year-olds! Yeah, they act stupid sometimes, but I didn't buy that dialogue at all. I think maybe we always WANT to believe that everything on this show means something, but maybe sometimes we should just accept that a particular scene was nothing but bad writing.

[ima420r]

We learned more from the ad for next weeks ep than we did in the episode itself.

[Passion]

Totally agree about the Sawyer/Michael "this is all your fault" stuff. I mean, these are grown men, not 11-year-olds! Yeah, they act stupid sometimes, but I didn't buy that dialogue at all. I think maybe we always WANT to believe that everything on this show means something, but maybe sometimes we should just accept that a particular scene was nothing but bad writing.
I would love to see how you would react after being on an island for 40+ days, going off on a raft to find help, finding what you thought was help only to have those people take a child and blow up your raft.

Im curious as to how eloquent and rational you would have been through that night.

[Willow the Entwife]

I didn't get into tonight's show. I have loved most of them, but there was no magic. Am glad Jin survived. Am also sure there are some important "nuggets" imbedded in the show.

[Darth Pipes]

I thought the episode was good but I agree that nothing happened. I was hoping they would address what happened at the end of last week's episode but all they did was so the build-up. They are drawing out these storylines way too slowly and it's time for the show to FINALLY ANSWERS SOME QUESTIONS!

[LostNLuvnit]

I agree... no major progression in the story line... And who says Desmond doesn't recognize Jack?

Hi everyone, my first post, so please be kind. :)
I think Desmond knows exactly who Jack is. Did anyone else hear Desmond's response to Locke when Locke said "That would be Jack - he's our doctor"?

[Scarlett]

Hi everyone, my first post, so please be kind. :)
I think Desmond knows exactly who Jack is. Did anyone else hear Desmond's response to Locke when Locke said "That would be Jack - he's our doctor"?

No, what was his response? He didn't seem to register that it was Jack.
I agree--it was an enjoyable episode and I liked the different POVs, but still--I want Jack, Kate, and Locke out of that hatch and back to safety! Or at least to find out more about Desmund and what he's doing there in the first place.
Next week looks more promising, but I'm just really hoping the new cast members aren't the focus now. We're so invested in the original characters, I just hope we don't have to waste a lot of time re-meeting Ana Lucia and Libby and whoever. But at least it will be more action!
I just hope that the show's success isn't its undoing..like someone said, w/ the Emmys and ratings, it has the potential to become even more commercial-laden than it is right now. I'll bear w/ the show, butI just hope they don't sell out!

[Tao]

I treated this episode as like a part-two of the season premiere. Basically, that's what it was. We learned a bit more, what happened to the raftees mostly, but we learned some things about what the hatch has, that the sickness is obviously real and not some delusion of crazy French lady...

We found out something really huge in two episodes: What's in the hatch and what happened to the raftees, but they can't tell us everything in two episodes... what would we have for the rest of the season?

[Passion]

I treated this episode as like a part-two of the season premiere. Basically, that's what it was. We learned a bit more, what happened to the raftees mostly, but we learned some things about what the hatch has, that the sickness is obviously real and not some delusion of crazy French lady...

We found out something really huge in two episodes: What's in the hatch and what happened to the raftees, but they can't tell us everything in two episodes... what would we have for the rest of the season?
If the sikness is so real, how come no one has died from it yet and Rousseau hasnt either?

[LostNLuvnit]

Scarlett, I'm not positive (no Tivo, and the VCR died on me) but it really sounded like he said "he's no doctor, he's me (my) brother". Wish I could find someone to go back and listen. This does tie in with Desmond's constant use of the word "brother" when talking to Jack.

[Addicted]

This may be a stretch, but what if the sickness is already hapening to eveyone. Everyone starts to think that they crossed pathes with these people before, but it is jsut the disease messing with their heads.

[Leah Kate]

I would love to see how you would react after being on an island for 40+ days, going off on a raft to find help, finding what you thought was help only to have those people take a child and blow up your raft.

Im curious as to how eloquent and rational you would have been through that night.

Eloquent? No, probably not. But would I be screaming "This is all your fault!" when there are imminent dangers and life-threatening circumstances to be dealt with? Nope... I moved beyond using that phrase after about the 6th grade. I think it would have been more believable if Michael and Sawyer had put more focus on finding Jin and also in rehashing everything they knew about "the Others" and why they might want Walt.

[Passion]

Eloquent? No, probably not. But would I be screaming "This is all your fault!" when there are imminent dangers and life-threatening circumstances to be dealt with? Nope... I moved beyond using that phrase after about the 6th grade. I think it would have been more believable if Michael and Sawyer had put more focus on finding Jin and also in rehashing everything they knew about "the Others" and why they might want Walt.
While Sawyer was reeling from a bullet wound and Michael was dealing with a huge loss, they should have booted up their palm pilots and gone on to Lost-Forum.com to post their theories as well.

[LOSTboost]

Hi! My first post....

Anyways, I felt cheated tonight. I just feels like we saw "extra" footage from the season premiere. They should have done a 2 hour season opener and just lumped the 2 episodes into one night.

There were a couple of interesting things in tonights episode, but all in all, pretty lame. The Sawyer/Michael storyline was pretty boring. The shark could have atleast peared his head above water (kinda like Jaws) and then have Sawyer pump a few rounds into it. I wanted more story from the hatch, but we are still in the same spot as last week with a few extra details.

[Count2Five]

I think the only reason people may be dissapointed with this episode is if they already know everything that's going on, and that will be going on in the next couple of episodes (The rafters being kidnapped, new crash survivors introduced, etc), if we didn't know any of this stuff we would have been blown away, especially by tonight's ending!

[Angelmonster]

We did learn alot.

For one we learn that the computers code was the set of numbers and they have to be added every 108 minutes, the number on the mural in the hatch. We learn Desmond is kind of nuts and we learn that Kate escapes(and kudos to her eatting the cocolate, I surely would have). We learn that those scratches ont he wall were the number of days he was down there and that Locke really had nothing to do with the hatch. Also that there is someone suppoed to be there to replace him or whatever.

And of course what happened to the people on the raft.

[Leah Kate]

I think the only reason people may be dissapointed with this episode is if they already know everything that's going on, and that will be going on in the next couple of episodes (The rafters being kidnapped, new crash survivors introduced, etc), if we didn't know any of this stuff we would have been blown away, especially by tonight's ending!
Good point... I bet for casual viewers, it probably seemed a lot more eerie and surprising than it did to us junkies who know everything. But the hatch stuff even bored my parents, and they're just casual viewers, so I don't think that part was really necessary for anyone. Other than the numbers stuff, but it's not likely we'll know what that means for ages, anyway.

[La Mer]

I thought it was a good episode. I really wasn't expecting to find out anything about the hatch this week, becouse I knew they were going back to the raft. I do agree, they should have ran this episode with the premiere so they wouldn't have to replay scenes in the hatch. It was very fast paced, but I'm sure that all the episodes aren't going to be like that. It's hard to fit averything in a 40 minute time frame. I think people are so worried about the mysteries being solved that thier not paying attention to all the other great things about the show. The scenes with Michael and Sawyer were very good. They are not going to reveal everything at once becouse then they wouldn't be able to continue on. If this show runs for 5 years we are not going to truly find out everything that is going on for a while. Why can't people just stop worrying about what the anwsers are, and just enjoy the ride. Then their are people saying they didn't like this episode so they're never going to watch it again. That's pretty stupid, don't you think? Every TV show is bound to have an episode that people don't like. That's no reason to stop watching them all together.

[Coconut1214]

So why couldn't this weeks ep been in last week's ep.

With Jack's flashbacks last week. The whole thing with Sarah wasn't exciting we already knew she would walk. That was useless to show us that. We already knew Jack was intense.

If they can't think of anything to use in flashbacks then maybe they should show flashbacks on people who haven't had any like Shannon or the one's who only had one.

I didn't mind the Michael/Sawyer interaction, mainly because Sawyer was there, I didn't really care about anything else. :D

Next week looks better.

[Digits]

I agree that nothing new happened here.

But I'm not complaining. Every episode can't be as fantastic as the premiere! But it really did feel like we were just re-watching the premiere...

but catching up with Sawyer and Michael was good, even though I thought the shark part was a bit ".....eh...."

And we didn't really find out much more from the hatch--except where Kate was, and that Desmond has been counting the days on his wall...and that he has chocolate....and that Kate likes chocolate...

And the next episode looks SOO GOOD!
poor Sawyer is getting beat up all over the place...being shot, and hit with a big stick! all in less than a day! ouch.

[ace_ryan_icon]

It just felt like they could have included the out to sea parts in the opener. I think they should have done that actually.

[jetembers]

what we learned in this episode's flash backs:

hmmm....


....walt has a history with polar bears.
That's IT!, Flashback was pointless but the rest of the show was great. Sawyer to care for his co-rafters.

[Coconut1214]

Maybe this was meant to be a 2-hour premiere.

I loved the Kate and Sawyer parts. But that's not suprising :D Kate's WTF look when the music started was priceless.

[jetembers]

I said out loud after the music started "Kate's going to be like WTF."

[Angelmonster]

SPOILER!






Just FYI they said that we wont find out what the Hatch fully is until the third episode! More people should have expected this episode to be somewhat of a let down.

[cri]

just because we're not taking giant leaps forward in the storyline, doesnt mean a lot didnt happen. Theres A LOT of details to get out, and personally, I dont want them to just cruise through em just for the sake of getting to the next day. Both episodes this season have been extremely captivating. I love this type of writing, where theres loose ends and not everything is nicely gift wrapped and handed to you after 40 minutes of show.

[ShinyThings]

I don't get it? Have none of you people (who are complaining that nothing happened) ever followed a television series before? There are always some episodes where nothing happens. And now we have two major story-lines. Of course they're not going to show you what you want to see the most - that's why we had to wait a week to find out what happened to the guys on the raft.

Anticipation is 50% of the fun, waiting to find out is fun. Once you find out, you already know and the suspense is over.

[CheshireJessica]

I really love the show, watched the entire first season and enjoyed learning about the characters.

But with that being said, this episode was a great waste of an episode. First of all I felt like the writers were trying to drill into the viewers head the obvious clues we may not have seen in the first episode. Second of all, time did not move forward at all as far as advancing the storyline of the hatch. Third, I didn't see the point of the Mike backstory episode. Again I thought that the writers were again trying to hit viewers with a rubber mallet to show yet again that Mike wanted Walt. We knew that, give us insight into another character if you don't have any for the current character. It didn't really flow into the show very well in my opinion

The obvious reference to the numbers is getting to me, there are these numbers everywhere. Writers of Lost, I think that the fans know these numbers are relevent. Are you going to keep referencing them in every back story, shirt, hatch, coordinates in every show. Give us a clue to why these numbers are even relevent.

Also, the symbol, I think most of the fans were aware that this was emblazened on every possible item now that the hatch has been opened. It was even on the shark! I hope the writers don't make it like the numbers where we all know ththe symbol is relevent, but never explained in any way.

I will certainly watch next week, because I like the show. But if the writers spend yet another week patronizing the audience with the different point of views of the same event, then it will become pointless to watch. It will become the next X-Files. Fans waited seven years for the reveal of the big conspiracy secret, only to be let down by a mundane answer.

I am not saying I think it should be an instant gratification show, but geez, I hope the writers don't keep rewriting the same episode over and over again. And if they want to give us a backstory, make it relevent and interesting. Don't patronize us with yet another view of the same point in the characters life.

In the first season the backstories were insightful and flowed into the events that were happening to the characters on the island. This week, it didn't flow, it was the same point that Mikes other backstories were about, and really didn't add anything new to his character. It was dug out it seems as well.

I just hope the show doesn't waste away to being pointless with the writers absolutely drilling the same mystery into our heads in every episode. Let us learn the mysteries of the island, not all, and then give us new mysteries to ponder, but the two mystery show with no hint of an answer will get old after a while.

[mojofilter]

Kind of troubling. I TiVo these so I don't watch the commercials, but I know there are TONS of them. At the beginning of Adrift there was about a 5 minute recap of what happened last episode (like we've forgotten.) You know what that is right? It's a way to stretch out a little bit of content and make more advertising dollars. This entire episode not only reused the timeline from 2:1 but also reused a lot of the actual footage.

The only real news in this is that we know Michael, Sawyer and Jinn are alive and back on the island.

Everything involving the hatch is EXACTLY where it was in 2:1. We just know Kate is in the vent. That's it. I don't think anyone was worried she was dead anyway, so that's pretty pointless.

[Lotto#4815162342]

"If Desmond really had a mission in talking to Jack like some people say, then he would have definitely remembered Jack-Doctor-Plane Crash"-Passion

Now that I think of it I completely agree with Passion, if Jack was that important he would've remembered him on the spot. Also I thought that this episode was very good, yes, it wasn't much progression over time, but it was in explaining alittle more about the island.

[CheshireJessica]

Someone in another thread pointed out that if people didn't like the episode, than tough.

I just think episode two was not best best time for a "filler" show. And is it only me, perhaps I should start a new thread, but they are beating us on the head with the obvious stick.

We know the numbers are important, even if you didn't watch last year, it was pointed out in Destination Lost. Also, they may be Lost, but they certainly aren't in the middle of nowhere. Someone couldn't have built that bombshelter/hatch by themselves. A company/cult/group of crazies apparently like their Logo on everything, even a shark.

Seems to me this island is a testing ground by vreated by end of the world culties/ a security company / company.

I just hope that future shows either give us insight into new characters, or further the storyline by at least one day.

[*Pauly*]

I kinda liked the thing they did of replaying the scene through Kate's eyes. Her above watching them kinda reminded me of the Back to the Future scene where he sees himself playing lol I dunno why. I thought it was pretty cool how they did this but I think they could have not made it not as long and drawn out as they did. I also really think the flashbacks should have been Sawyers the whole eppy centered around him in the raft scenes. Wish they hadn't changed it around now :(

[elfdream]

It was an ok episode. Sawyer still annoys me but I don't hate him or wish him dead or anything like that...

[Talio]

It felt like a continuation of the first episode. They -should- have been a two hour premier. I mean, they showed (where I am anyways), both episode one and two last night, so obviously it's quite possible to clear up the time block, and it would of made it feel like a lot more progression, not to mention a little bit more continuity in what WAS all the same night.

[Sluggo]

This may be the first TV show I've seen that used the exact same cliffhanger two weeks in a row-- Jack's recognition of Desmond, followed by a cut-away with no resolution.

I kind of felt like this week's episode should have had a disclaimer on it stating "73% new footage!"

[Leah Kate]

I just think episode two was not best best time for a "filler" show. And is it only me, perhaps I should start a new thread, but they are beating us on the head with the obvious stick.
I completely agree with this, and I think it's getting more and more annoying as time goes on. Do the Lost writers think we're all retarded, or something? Or do they just assume that for every episode, millions of people are watching for the first time? I mean, new viewers are great and everything, but don't tailor the show to their needs! They'll catch up and do their homework if they're really interested. It's just insulting that they play to the lowest common denominator. The recaps are out of control... ESPECIALLY when they had JUST shown the previous episode in the 8:00/7:00 time slot.

Also, the needless repeating of information within the show, and like you said, with the numbers... I understand that they don't want to make it too esoteric or cult-like, but if this is what it takes to make the American public "get it", then maybe Lost would have been better off as a cult show, rather than a blockbuster.

[WithTheDawn]

Not much happened really...it was interesting, but most of my questions are still the same....still, I guess it sets up the story well for next week.

[Hawaii Kai]

last night was just kinda blah...nothing too exciting.

[ibsk]

Two things happened in the first episode, I dont know if they have been mentioned or not but here goes. My daughter lives in KC, Mo so she got the show before me and told me what to look for, so I taped it. In the hatch you see a symbol on the wall and on Desmonds shirt, no biggy, but when sawyer is getting ready to swim to the pontoon and the shark is swimming underwater, if you pause the tape at the right time you will see that same symbol on its tail. I have no idea how my daugter caught that. The other thing is that Walt gave his son a polar bear when he was saying goodbye to him, you may remember the polar bear from last season that almost attacked the group and was also shown in the comic book walt and his son were looking at. Just thought I would share those two things.

[Michael]

Maybe he just didn't want Locke to know that he knew who Jack was...

As for the rest, I kinda thought it was fun when Locke tied Kate up, just because I'm twisted like that. But would my life have been incomplete if I didn't know that she craves chocolate and is freakishly limber? No. :p



Yes, but seeing Kate lying there panting made it all worth while. :D

[Raven O'Reilly]

Here's my two cents (perhaps even more) on why I liked this episode:

If you take a look around in the Man of Science, Man of Faith section, you'll find a lot of people wondering a few things like:

- Why are there shoes on the ground?
- Where is Kate?
- Was that Kate screaming over the music?
- What was Desmond typing on the computer?
- Where are the raft survivors? Specifically, where is Jin?

We got some answers to these questions, but of course, we're left with asking more FOLLOW UP questions.

Then there is the huge debate over Locke and his motives. I'm pleased we got to see what happened between the time Locke and Kate went into the hatch and when Jack arrived. You find that not only was Locke getting Kate out of the danger Desmond posed, but he also showed that he RELIES on Kate's resourcefulness. I mean, she was able to get into the freaking vent!

I feel like there are clues in this "filler" episode that we might be missing. There are usually some subtle plot points that writer's make in seemingly meaningless episodes like this one. Also, even though we might find Michael's story boring, the show is centered around the characters and so we need character development.

[ibsk]

Ok so I called Michael, walt. I really need to pay more attention to the show. Just stating this before someone else does.

[Mal de Mer]

Yep, what Raven said.

[Raven O'Reilly]

Yep, what Raven said.

Glad someone agrees. :)

[vluchtplan]

it's not so much that nothing happened... it's more that not enough happened.

seeing the action from kate/locke's point of view was interesting, but could it have been slotted in last week? hard to say, i'm not a professional editor.

Better yet, this week and last week should have been merged to one giant super 2 hour season premiere. instead of this, "oh you saw this last week, but hey, we'll show you it again" - albeit for a different pov.

That would have also lessened the backstory concentration. these past two weeks seemed to have been loaded with flashbacks. don't get me wrong, I love the backstories, but ugh... 75% of the show needs to be on the island, not in a lawyer's office or in a hospital ER.

this week just seemed to be a little pause for next week, so here's hoping we'll forget this week and have some new stuff to chew on.

[Lost Tar Heel]

I think some would like to have all of the answers now. But then there would be no show. We need episodes like this to set up future episodes. Sometimes it is the small things that happen that will mean the most down the road. Then you'll find yourself saying, "Oh yeah." Also, part of the appeal for me to Lost is the character development. Everything that happens on the island has something to do with the past. Last night we had to endure Michael losing Walt again. That was heart-wrenching.

There were some things that happened, too. The coutdown and entering the numbers into the computer is huge. Also, Desmond seems to have been there for a long time. And who is him? And what's with the joke? Who was Desomnd working for? Why did he ask if anyone has gotten sick? Also, who are the people who took Jin? Are they the Others, or survivors of the crash who got sick, or a whole different group of people? Sometimes the small things in episodes like this can come back to be big later on.

[castorella]

But would my life have been incomplete if I didn't know that she craves chocolate...

Well, let's not forget that she has been on a fish/boar/papaya diet for 44 days....I don't like chocolate myself but after all that I would be stuffing my pockets just like she was! :p

[lost/wwe fan]

I thought that this episode was really good. I liked how they showed how Locke got down into the hatch. I liked Micheal's flashback. It gives a visual of what happens. We really didn't learn anything new, but it does give us a visual. It could have been worse. It could of shown nothing but Sawyer and Micheal at sea. That would have got boring fast.

[Soxgirl]

I hate to say it because I love the show but last nite was sort of dragged out and used a lot of recycled scenes, maybe 10-15% were scenes from last week and the mike and sawyer stuff was awfully dragged out. even the flashback didn't do much to enlighten, we knew michael lost walt.

[lostnfound]

i don't think we really learned anything! i mean most was backtrack from a slightly different perspective, but we basically saw the same thing over. i don't think anything exciting happened until the last 5 minutes when michael and sawyer made it 2 shore and found jin! Plus the scenes although hilarious of sawyer and michael in the middle of the ocean were kinda boring and dragged out, i mean all they did was argue and blame each other for walt's kidnapping :confused:

[Boon]

what we learned in this episode's flash backs:

hmmm....


....walt has a history with polar bears.
That's IT!, Flashback was pointless but the rest of the show was great. Sawyer to care for his co-rafters.

Wasnt completely pointless.. :o

http://propaholics.wolfchasers.com/maian_uploader/uploads/gimmebackmyson.jpg

Micheal and claire signed away thier kids in the same room :O connection?

i dunno..

[BOONE182]

this episode was GREAT. absolutely insane !

[Jack=Savior]

I hate to say it because I love the show but last nite was sort of dragged out and used a lot of recycled scenes, maybe 10-15% were scenes from last week and the mike and sawyer stuff was awfully dragged out. even the flashback didn't do much to enlighten, we knew michael lost walt.
I agree, I didn't like this episode very much. I liked how they showed everything from Locke/Kate's POV in the hatch, but the raft scenes were kind of boring :(

[sushi]

just because we're not taking giant leaps forward in the storyline, doesnt mean a lot didnt happen. Theres A LOT of details to get out, and personally, I dont want them to just cruise through em just for the sake of getting to the next day. Both episodes this season have been extremely captivating. I love this type of writing, where theres loose ends and not everything is nicely gift wrapped and handed to you after 40 minutes of show.

Totally agree.

The episodes were intense and to me thats whats important.

No, they haven't done episodes like this, but who wants the same thing over and over again? Change can be good. Plus, I'm sure it was just these two (and possibly the next episode) that were done like this.

Personally I loved the Kate scenes the most. She got all the fun stuff... that food storage room scene was great. From her maneuvering out of the binds (skillful and flexible may I add!), to eating the chocolate bar, to shoving more down her pants, to the look on her face when the music started, to her nearly being shot.

[redemtion]

But most of those points could have been made much more succintly, without retelling the entire hatch story from Locke's and Kate's perspective. That just wasn't necessary. It could have happened last week, even, if they'd shortened some of Jack's flashback scenes a little.


Thank you for pointing that out. I have enjoyed your fanfic.

[jetembers]

Wasnt completely pointless.. :o

http://propaholics.wolfchasers.com/maian_uploader/uploads/gimmebackmyson.jpg

Micheal and claire signed away thier kids in the same room :O connection?

i dunno..
I had wanted to go back look at the flashback just to see what I was missing. I knew there was something, and I'm sure there is more.
Is there a tread about that beeing the same room?

[Leah Kate]

Claire was in Australia, though. I think this is probably more a case of the producers/writers being strapped for time, so they just re-used a set that they already had, rather than building a new one. Sure, there are obvious parallels with the "signing your child away", but obviously it's not meant to be the same room, because it's on a different continent. Most conference rooms look like that.