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xdesmond
09-25-2005, 04:33 PM
4-----8-----15-----16-----23-----42
4-----7------1-------7------19
(+3)---(-6)---(+6)----(+12)
---(-6)--(+12)---(+6)
= 12


i solved it. thank you very much.

Mojave
09-25-2005, 04:36 PM
You messed up. On the 4th line, the difference between +3 and -6 is -9. Then the 5th line would be +21 and -6. So the last line would be -27!

Actually, I solved the number thing a different way.

SPOILER: The numbers are prime numbers, but only on THIS island. ;

xdesmond
09-25-2005, 04:44 PM
You messed up. On the 4th line, the difference between +3 and -6 is -9. Then the 5th line would be +21 and -6. So the last line would be -27!

Actually, I solved the number thing a different way.

SPOILER: The numbers are prime numbers, but only on THIS island. ;

but if you add 42, the last number in the series, to -27 then you get

12

im right again. thank you.

Mojave
09-25-2005, 04:48 PM
If you're going to allow double usage of the number 42 in your calculations, then you need to allow double usage of the "mirror" (clone, dna, genetics - it all makes sense now) number of 42 which is 4. So subtract 4 from 12 and you get

tada! 8, which is one of our special numbers! That has to be the final solution.

Hungry Joe
09-25-2005, 04:53 PM
But if you randomly add 356, you get 364.

xdesmond
09-25-2005, 04:58 PM
But if you randomly add 356, you get 364.

but if you take 364 and subtract 4 from it, and then divide it by 30, you get....

12

game. set. and match.

Hungry Joe
09-25-2005, 05:02 PM
Wait!! If you take 12, and add 4815162330, you get 4815162342!!!!

xdesmond
09-25-2005, 05:08 PM
Wait!! If you take 12, and add 4815162330, you get 4815162342!!!!

bravo. you, my friend, are a genius.

Mojave
09-25-2005, 05:10 PM
Hey, we're having a serious discussion about the numbers here. Just talking about randomly adding this and randomly subtracting that is stupid. Stick to the spirit of the numbers and what the final solution is.

xdesmond
09-25-2005, 05:14 PM
Hey, we're having a serious discussion about the numbers here. Just talking about randomly adding this and randomly subtracting that is stupid. Stick to the spirit of the numbers and what the final solution is.

but the final solution is 12.

k0x
09-25-2005, 05:24 PM
It's out of sense...

Hungry Joe
09-25-2005, 05:26 PM
It didn't look very serious.

xdesmond
09-25-2005, 05:35 PM
It didn't look very serious.

the number 12 is about as serious as it can get.

Quiet Tempest
09-25-2005, 05:37 PM
I concur ;)

Hungry Joe
09-25-2005, 05:55 PM
I dont get it. It still doesnt seem very serious.

Maybe we are forgeting that the numbers are not supposed to mean anything. They were supposed to be just a hurley thing but one of the producers or someone decided to make it bigger later on when he found (and attempted to buy) a coffee mug on e-bay with the numbers on it.

ShinyThings
09-25-2005, 06:09 PM
I don't get it, whats the big deal about 12?

xdesmond
09-26-2005, 02:31 AM
I don't get it, whats the big deal about 12?

what's the big deal about12!!!!???
It means everything!!!

Vegeta
09-26-2005, 03:53 AM
So since we mere mortals are clearly idiots, why don't you explain it to us, Einstein?

Your first post in this thread made absolutley no sense whatsoever.

benos
09-26-2005, 04:42 AM
Whats the meaning of 12?

Maybe its like 12 Monkeys. lol. A virus.

ScottOrSteve
09-26-2005, 05:39 AM
It's been well established that the answer to "the meaning of life, the universe and everything" is "42". Problem is, no one knows the question.

Vegeta
09-26-2005, 06:06 AM
I thought it was becuase the question was wrong? Or at least too vague & ambiguous?

xdesmond
09-26-2005, 01:44 PM
It's been well established that the answer to "the meaning of life, the universe and everything" is "42". Problem is, no one knows the question.

no no, stop going off topic, the number is 12


12 I say!!!

psu711
09-26-2005, 02:07 PM
OMG this is genius, if you take the square root of 12 =3.46410161514 then you multiply that number br 3.46410161514....you get......

12

GENIUS, I cant believe the answer has been in front of us the whole time

Purgatory
09-26-2005, 02:23 PM
Maybe 12 is the number of survivors in the end.

james1991
09-26-2005, 02:51 PM
4+8=12

omg a coincidence... i think not!

murbot
09-26-2005, 03:43 PM
I turned 12, 20 years ago. If you subtract 12 from 20, you get 8!!

8 divided by half of itself is 2 and 2 times 8 is 16! 16 minus half of 8 is 12.

I have to agree, the answer must be 12.

shred
09-26-2005, 03:48 PM
I have solved the mystery. Twelve is the age of the poster who started this completely pointless thread.

murbot
09-26-2005, 03:52 PM
I have solved the mystery. Twelve is the age of the poster who started this completely pointless thread.


ROFLMFAO :crackup:

Good one!

Mojave
09-26-2005, 04:38 PM
Just because you don't understand complex mathematics doesn't mean you have to get harsh.

I just realized that 108 - 12 is 96 which is 6 * 16! Another one of our numbers. And 6 itself is halfway between 4 and 8, two more of our numbers. 12 is definitely a key value here!

TheRutz
09-26-2005, 05:08 PM
It's been well established that the answer to "the meaning of life, the universe and everything" is "42". Problem is, no one knows the question.

You think the island could be a computer created to find the ultimate question???

Perhaps Desmond is one of the pandimensional beyinds responsible for creating the computer... OR, he worked on creating the island much like Slartibartfast built the Alps!

xdesmond
09-26-2005, 06:32 PM
who did Henry Ian Cusick (Desmond) play in the movies "Gospel of Mark" and "Gospel of John"??

answer: Jesus Christ

how many apostles did Jesus have??

answer: 12

what does 4 plus 4 plus 4 equal??

answer: 12

case closed.


EDIT: number of posts i have at time of this post??

answer: 12

Glassball
09-26-2005, 09:51 PM
correction... Jesus had 12 disciples, not apostles.

xdesmond
09-27-2005, 11:52 AM
correction... Jesus had 12 disciples, not apostles.


have you seen jesus christ superstar???



12

Not Quite Lost
09-27-2005, 06:16 PM
*rolls eyes* This is the most idiotic thing I've ever seen. You could do anything to the numbers.

4+8+15+16+23+42= 108

108/4=27

27 X 8= 216

27 x 15= 405

27 x16= 432 (And 32 is a multiple of 4 and 8, ya know)

Ooh.... 27 is the magic number! THEY'RE RANDOM. If they did mean anything, I'm pretty sure that JJ Abrams wouldn't confuse us with a long mathmatical equation.

AyeWhateverPal
09-27-2005, 07:15 PM
I reckon when Charlie lays his hands on that smack in the plane all hells gonna break loose with people gettin smacked out of their boxes!

The riddle of the numbers will drive them to despair, We see them everywhere... they are inscribed on the hatch exterior and also if ur sad enough to check ( i have, naturally ) when the man we see in the opening sequence injecting the smack syrum into his arm, you will notice those same numbers on the bottle labels. Coincidence??... maybe!... but isn't that whats so good about it. Don't try to work too hard, just watch it!!!!!

Personally I think theyre simply the likely date when Hurley gets a girlfriend.

relientmike
09-27-2005, 07:53 PM
12 is not the answer to this solution. The answer is 15.

4-----8-----15-----16-----23-----42
4-----7-----1------7------19
3---(-6)----6------12
-9----12----6
21---(-6)
(-27)
THE ANSWER IS -27.

Not really sure that this number is siginificant at all. Although, the number 27 is divisible into 108 (the total of all numbers) exactly 4 times.

4-----8-----15-----16-----23-----42
4-----7------1-------7------19
(+3)---(-6)---(+6)----(+12)
---(-6)--(+12)---(+6)
= 12


i solved it. thank you very much.

xdesmond
09-27-2005, 08:05 PM
12 is not the answer to this solution. The answer is 15.

4-----8-----15-----16-----23-----42
4-----7-----1------7------19
3---(-6)----6------12
-9----12----6
21---(-6)
(-27)
THE ANSWER IS -27.

Not really sure that this number is siginificant at all. Although, the number 27 is divisible into 108 (the total of all numbers) exactly 4 times.

but if you add 39 to that number, you get 12

Mojave
09-27-2005, 08:52 PM
12 is not the answer to this solution. The answer is 15.

4-----8-----15-----16-----23-----42
4-----7-----1------7------19
3---(-6)----6------12
-9----12----6
21---(-6)
(-27)
THE ANSWER IS -27.

Not really sure that this number is siginificant at all. Although, the number 27 is divisible into 108 (the total of all numbers) exactly 4 times.

I already worked out that complex analysis back on page 1 of this thread.

Pupp3t Mast3r
09-28-2005, 12:05 AM
How about this for your answer...

xdesmond = complete idiot and 12 is the number of braincells he has...

Now theres ya damn case solved...

Mojave
09-28-2005, 02:11 AM
How about this for your answer...

xdesmond = complete idiot and 12 is the number of braincells he has...

Now theres ya damn case solved...

It could also be that 12 is the number of really gullible people that have read this post and believed it. And no, I'm not counting you as one of them.

qorzm
09-28-2005, 02:28 AM
XDESMOND
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH RIGHT NOW

you have no idea how much the number 12 influences my life
and now that i know the numbers = 12
i am blown away
we need to discuss the number 12 sometime

xdesmond
09-28-2005, 01:03 PM
XDESMOND
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH RIGHT NOW

you have no idea how much the number 12 influences my life
and now that i know the numbers = 12
i am blown away
we need to discuss the number 12 sometime

how about over a 12 course meal

murbot
09-28-2005, 02:43 PM
how about over a 12 course meal


LMFAO

You're killing me. :crackup: 12 times over.

Addicted
09-28-2005, 02:44 PM
There are 12 months in a year!!!! OMG!!!

Dbugger
09-28-2005, 02:57 PM
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murbot
09-28-2005, 03:36 PM
12 inches in a foot and 12 old pennies in a shilling.

12 o'clock is midday or midnight.

There are 12 signs of the Zodiac.

A dodecahedron has a regular pentagon on each of its 12 faces. It is one of the five Platonic solids. It has 20 vertices (or corners) and 30 edges. If you join together the centres of the faces of a dodecahedron you get an icosahedron.

Both octahedrons and cubes have 12 edges. An icosahedron has 12 vertices or corners


There are 12 ways of arranging eight queens on a chessboard so that no queen can capture any other queen (not counting rotations and reflections as being different).

On one hand you can count off the numbers from 1 to 12 by touching the joints of your fingers with your thumb.

tommerp
09-28-2005, 04:22 PM
Maybe the numbers are a naturally occuring in nature because we are always be bombarded by them. The happen everywhere. In the grocery store, at the gas station, in church, at your son's baseball game, etc. We just are so accustomed to them that when this show has come out, JJ and writers have made such a big deal about them that we are actually becoming aware of OUR actual surroundings and MAYBE we are the ones that ar sick and the numbers ( being repeated over and over and over ) are actually a part of OUR life. A life force per say. A connection to the "outside world" Only we are the ones quarantined on the earth and are being controlled and manipulated by the outside. What is the outside? How can we ever know. Are we actually "quarantined" on the earth? Yes. Even though we venture out into space, we always come back - because we have to. Put it into contect with the island. Just the same.
....

WOAH.....NEED......MORE......MEDICINE......CR48151 62342......


JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!JK !JK!JK!JK!JK!JK!

P.S. Please don't take this serious!!! Just having a little fun.......................

murbot
09-28-2005, 04:45 PM
Oh man... I was so gonna go there. You totally beat me to it.

You are the man.

d h o p v
4 8 15 16 23 crap, that's nothing. Don't even get me started on where 42 was suppossed to be.

In The Hatch
09-28-2005, 04:54 PM
I think that the number 12 is the answer to the whole show. 12 will tell us the destiny of the castaways.....

Addicted
09-28-2005, 05:15 PM
Did anyone notice that they only took 12 pieces of dynamite from the Black Rock??? OMG!!! I don't have a clip to post, but if you ahve the Season 1 DVD, it is def. worth checking out.

In The Hatch
09-28-2005, 05:19 PM
Curse you lost show writers!!!

Addicted
09-28-2005, 05:26 PM
There are 12 main writers. Go to the show's website and you can see. Coincidence?

Addicted
09-28-2005, 05:27 PM
Sorry guys, but some of these number theories are getting out of control. Please do not waste our time. If the theory is far fetched then please post in the Illuminatti post.

Thank You.

Not Quite Lost
09-28-2005, 06:29 PM
*sigh* Guillible newbies all thinking that 12 is the answer. Shame on you Xdesmond. Anyone can write like this but it doesn't make it any more important.

qorzm
09-28-2005, 08:32 PM
the best day of my life was on 12-12
the best song on any cd is track 12

Nemesis
09-29-2005, 06:18 AM
the last number on the hatch wasn't 42.
It was "4?"
It could be the amount of survivers.
And all the counting with the numbers would make no more sense?

BOONE182
09-29-2005, 06:35 AM
xdesmond you smokin crack man!?
haha just pull a random number and have some connection
any random number will have a connection. they are just numbers

rocketboy
09-29-2005, 02:26 PM
http://www.pl8s.com/ps-photos/DSC00052.jpg