John DESMOND Bernal

[sofie]

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-types-of-space-colonies-have-been-proposed.htm

In 1929, Dr. John Desmond Bernal conceived of the Bernal sphere, a rotating space colony with a diameter of approximately 15 kilometers (9.3 miles), filled with air and colonized around the equator, where the rotation of the colony would create centrifugal force to simulate Earth's gravity.

In the 60s and 70s, speculation and research into the possibility of space colonies experienced a renaissance, brought on by the Space Race. One of the most prominent thinkers participating in the design and advocacy of space colonies was Princeton physicist Gerard O'Neill, who in 1969 asked the provocative question, "Is the surface of a planet really the right place for an expanding technological civilization?" Throughout the 70s, O'Neill led workshops that investigated several proposed space colony designs in great detail. A NASA Summer Study in 1975 investigated three primary designs, dubbed Island One, Island Two, and Island Three. All three are based on the premise of a self-sustaining, artificial ecology within the station, called an arcology.

What do you think??

[tommerp]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[noShame]

wow, thats really scary :)

[LFDS1]

1234567890 :clap:

[GodrockDJ]

Wow great find!

[Heather]

hmm inetersting, great find and great theory

[DawnisMagawnis]

Wow, that is a great find........need to read that one!!

[polyphenus]

That is very fascinating. Would this fall under a government conspiracy (which apparently the writers have ruled out)? Or would this be something of a private endeavor (like the Virgin space plane)?

[lost_momma]

I think you might have something there. That's a fabulous find!

[WobblePot]

wow thats awesome!!!! theres one cursed number there btw... 15...

[Lost_Mommy]

Wow, if that is connected to this in anyway, then there could be two more of these island out there!

[pocohontas619]

Interesting!!

[lost]

That's crazy, but brilliant. Where did you find this?

[Colonel_Kurtz]

Great ;)

I found something else about "Bernal Sphere" :

"A Bernal sphere is a type of space habitat intended as a long-term home for permanent residents, first proposed in 1929 by Dr. John Desmond Bernal.

Dr. Bernal's original proposal described a hollow spherical shell 16 km in diameter, with a target population of 20,000 to 30,000 people. The Bernal sphere would be filled with air.

In a series of studies held at Stanford University in 1975 and 1976 with the purpose of speculating on designs for future space colonies, Dr. Gerard Kitchen O'Neill proposed a modified Bernal sphere with a diameter of only 500 m rotating at 1.9 RPM to produce a full Earth gravity at the sphere's equator. The result would be an interior landscape that would resemble a large valley running all the way around the equator of the sphere. Sunlight was to be provided to the interior of the sphere using external mirrors to direct it in through large windows near the poles. The form of a sphere was chosen for its optimum ability to contain air pressure and its optimum mass-efficiency at providing radiation shielding.

This version of the Bernal sphere was dubbed the "Island One" design, and was sized for a population of 10,000. For comparison, Island Two would house 140,000, and Island Three (O'Neill cylinder) would support a population of 10,000,000. "

http://encyclopedie-en.snyke.com/articles/bernal_sphere.html

[bigmouse64]

That's totally wierd, but great. Nice find.

[nikos]

BINGO!!!
read this:

Island One was the Bernal sphere, an enclosed design (good for protecting against radiation), excepting the poles, which would be left open to allow mirrors to redirect sunlight from the outside to the interior of the colony. Island Two was the Stanford torus, a mile-wide torus spinning to produce artificial gravity on the inner side of the ring. The center of the torus could then serve as a convenient docking station for spacecraft approaching via the poles. Island Three was the O'Neill cylinder, a spinning tube designed to hold 10,000 people. This design is probably the most popular space colony portrayed in sci-fi.

That's it!!!

[Colonel_Kurtz]

Bernal Sphere is looking like this : http://www.l5news.org/bernalsphere.htm

[kimi]

http://www.comms.dcu.ie/sheehanh/bernal.htm

"John Desmond Bernal was a prominent international scientist, born in Nenagh, Co Tipperary, Ireland. He did pioneering work in X-ray crystallography. He was Professor of Physics at Birkbeck College, University of London and a Fellow of the Royal Society. ...."


NOTICE HIS PORTRAIT....

CREEPY

[nsmith12916]

This is undeniebly the BEST idea I have seen about what the show could be about... it plays in with the whole Desmond being a Dr. thing...and what one of the writers said about "IF it's an island." The only problem is, how could desmond still be alive and so young looking...unless that's what the injection was for.

WOW! Awesome find... :thud:

EDIT: I know it was said that Desmond had an australian accent...after the showing in Waikiki, Oahu...but last night i totally said to myself... That's an Irish or Scotish accent... Did he EVER say he was from Australia?

[nikos]

I have to be honest.. I feel sorry for the script writers... That was a major spoiler right here.

[Saxon]

The actor that plays Desmond even looks like John Desmond Bernal.

Pictures of John Desmond Bernal (http://www.npg.org.uk/live/search/person.asp?LinkID=mp05080)

I think we're on to something....

[Carrie123]

Rememebr that Rosseaus maps showed 3 Islands

[kappel]

Rememebr that Rosseaus maps showed 3 Islands

Good catch. This is definetly something.

[kimi]

This Dr. Bernal died in 1971

Maybe Lost's Desmond is his son who wanted to be also a doctor like his dad and discovered his dad's hatch with all the 70s stuff.. and brought his own washer and drier... yeah right

and this is not a spoiler... is just speculation and fantasy...

[Desmond]

Very interesting.

[Leah Kate]

Fascinating find!!! I can't think about it too much or my head will explode. :thud: Although I hope you haven't just solved the mystery of the island, because there are supposedly about 6-7 seasons left, and if the secret gets out now, it would be kind of a let-down.

[tutorbell]

A quote by John Desmond Bernal, from http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_desmond_bernal.html

"Scientific corporations might well become almost independent states and be enabled to undertake their largest experiments without consulting the outside world - a world which would be less and less able to judge what the experiments were about."

[Turd Ferguson]

Great ;)

The result would be an interior landscape that would resemble a large valley running all the way around the equator of the sphere. Sunlight was to be provided to the interior of the sphere using external mirrors to direct it in through large windows near the poles.

http://encyclopedie-en.snyke.com/articles/bernal_sphere.html

So you're saying the island itself is this "large valley"-looking interior? Like Halo or something?

[Soxgirl]

this is fabulous, didn't jack ask him where he was from?

and he does look like bernal.

this beats a dumb gov't conspiracy.

and works with the hypothesis that the island, that is the chamber, is clean and the island, that is the jungle, is "infected" and therefore "quarantined". the "others" are part of whatever desmond is hiding from.

awesome catch sofie!

[LostSurvivors]

that's interesting!

[dew]

Wow. You might have just solved the damn thing. It's too bad, because I bet they're going to try to think of something else now, while this would've been a pretty damn good twist.

[DoppelgangerONE]

This is an AWESOME idea.

The thing is, even if this is exactly it, it still doesn't really spoil anything. It doesn't explain WHY they crashed on the island. It doesn't explain HOW Locke can walk now. It doesn't explain anything other than WHAT the hatch is.

[DoppelgangerONE]

Also, for what it's worth, I did a little bit of digging, and there was a NASA special project having to do with "space cabin atmospheres" with was SP-48...which should be two numbers we all know very well by now.

[LostBunny]

This is so amazing! This could be the beginning of the greatest plot line to ever unravel on tv.

[chimchim]

Amazing find!

Well, regardless if it's correct or not, the theory fits with amazing harmony. From a writers standpoint, it seems a little off the target audience to have this ultimately be a space station; as well as the theory fits. This show is about humanity and unless they simply conclude the spacestation theory at the end of the season, Lost will suffer from Matrix syndrome.

(Matrix 1 had a wide appeal because of the concept of "our reality is not real". Matrix 2 and 3 were sci fi geek fests with a much smaller audience appeal.)

[DoppelgangerONE]

As far as I can tell, most of the experiments involving Island One, Two, and Three were SP-4xx. They seem to have mostly started with 4...which, as you know...is one of THE numbers.

[DoppelgangerONE]

Amazing find!

Well, regardless if it's correct or not, the theory fits with amazing harmony. From a writers standpoint, it seems a little off the target audience to have this ultimately be a space station; as well as the theory fits. This show is about humanity and unless they simply conclude the spacestation theory at the end of the season, Lost will suffer from Matrix syndrome.

(Matrix 1 had a wide appeal because of the concept of "our reality is not real". Matrix 2 and 3 were sci fi geek fests with a much smaller audience appeal.)


I don't think it's so much a space station, as the island may be one of the islands that they built a "test" station to see how it would go...

[IlBLisSlI]

this is a top notch theory

[Mongo2831]

It might help explain Desmond's comment in the flash back that he is "Training to run around the world.

[redheadlaw7]

I posted in another thread about desmond bernal writing a book that talks about what would happen to humanity if people were placed in a space station. My post didn't get many responses as everyone is looking at this bernal thread...which is very good by the way. I just thought that the book gives an explanation as to whythese people crashed on "the island". Bernal was a marxist and a scientist and he wanted to see how people would behave if removed from the world as we know it.

[Quiet Tempest]

This is a great theory! I love it!

Now, how can we fit the Black Rock into it?

[dbdevgeek]

This is a great theory. Consider the episode Lock finds the hatch. He looks at boon and states it will start to rain in one minute. If this is an artificial environment with weather control, then Lock has found the pattern to the weather, ie... it is scheduled.

Also, the powerline running into the sea fits this theory.

Interesting, this makes more sense now.
Really digging this theory

[IlBLisSlI]

plus there is a space station in walt's comic as stated in another thread

http://www.lostlinks.net/comic/comic36.htm

[Quiet Tempest]

This is a great theory. Consider the episode Lock finds the hatch. He looks at boon and states it will start to rain in one minute. If this is an artificial environment with weather control, then Lock has found the pattern to the weather, ie... it is scheduled.

Also, the powerline running into the sea fits this theory.

Interesting, this makes more sense now.
Really digging this theory

I'd forgotten about that. Good catch. :)

[Hardware]

Very Impressive for sure. This is the first Theory I actually like. I really hope it's the direction the writers are going.

[SuperStar]

This whole Desmond Bernal thing is absolutely amazing. Serious, absolutely stunning. Perhaps Sun's father has something to do with funding the project? After all, it's been made clear he's filthy rich and has tons of people doing his dirty work.

[psu711]

Truman Show sorta?

Wouldnt the hatch be deeper than 40 feet?

Also, as someone else mentioned. What would this have to do with....

A. a plain crashing
B. Specific people surving
C. these people having something in commen with each other.
d. Walt? Walt? Walt?
e. Locke Walking again
f. the black smoke that seems mechanical.
g. 4-8-15-16-23-42?
h. 108?
I. Super Human Strength?

I am not saying I dont like the theory, just going into it a little deeper.

Only thing that bugs me about this is.....the writers have seen how many theories eveeyone has about this show. Giving up the name Desmond would be a gimme to the plot line since so many people are really putting a lot of time into this shows' plot and clues. Everything they put in the show probably gets googled 100,000 times every wed night, and thursday morning.

Just some thoughts...But a great read.

[elleesa]

This is a fantastic theory, but I'd bet the writers aren't just relying on this idea. And it doesn't explain many of the situations we've seen.

[Soxgirl]

i'm sure it is just one of many threads, but this one is very very good

[doodleman]

i think this theory really does make sense, 'John Desmond Bernal was a prominent international scientist, born in Nenagh, Co Tipperary, Ireland' - the Desmond in lost also had a slight english/irish accent.

i also found some quoutes from bernal that you might find interesting:

'As experimentation becomes more complex, the need for the co-operation in it of technical elements from outside becomes greater and the modern laboratory tends increasingly to resemble the factory and to employ in its service increasing numbers of purely routine workers.'

'We shall be forced to attempt planned and directed research employing hundreds of workers for many years, and this cannot be done without risking the loss of independence and originality. This is a serious and fundamental obstacle but it may be overcome in two ways. '

Another thing, remember when the producers said that the survivors get off the island 'if it's and island', then that ties in with this pretty well - the island isn't real, it's something like this bernal sphere that we're talking about. have a look at this: http://www.l5news.org/bernalspheredetail.htm

[redheadlaw7]

im pretty sure this is the true explanation, 'John Desmond Bernal was a prominent international scientist, born in Nenagh, Co Tipperary, Ireland' - the Desmond in lost also had a slight english/irish accent.

i also found some quoutes from bernal that you might find interesting:

'As experimentation becomes more complex, the need for the co-operation in it of technical elements from outside becomes greater and the modern laboratory tends increasingly to resemble the factory and to employ in its service increasing numbers of purely routine workers.'

'We shall be forced to attempt planned and directed research employing hundreds of workers for many years, and this cannot be done without risking the loss of independence and originality. This is a serious and fundamental obstacle but it may be overcome in two ways. '

Another thing, remember when the producers said that the survivors get off the island 'if it's and island', then that ties in with this pretty well - the island isn't real, it's something like this bernal sphere that we're talking about. have a look at this: http://www.l5news.org/bernalspheredetail.htm


That's very interesting. I posted some more of bernal's writing in the theory section and a thread over here titled "john desmond bernal wrote a book"...it goes into great detail about his plans for developing a new civilization in his sphere...

[MissJenniPenni]

Desmonds accent is definately Irish! (im from the UK)

[doodleman]

im pretty sure the plot won't be as simple as just this idea of a bernal sphere. maybe something went wrong after this sphere was made, i dunno, but it would be kinda crap if it was only about this.

just another thing, i think desmond knew what was gonna happen - he didn't seem surprised that it was jack, im sure some of the stuff desmond said in the flashback are gonna link with something soon, e.g. 'see you in another life' and 'you have to lift it up'..

[Raven O'Reilly]

just another thing, i think desmond knew what was gonna happen - he didn't seem surprised that it was jack, im sure some of the stuff desmond said in the flashback are gonna link with something soon, e.g. 'see you in another life' and 'you have to lift it up'..

I've been pondering about the "you have to lift it up" quote to. Not sure what to make of it yet.

[henryporter]

I'm from Ireland and the accent is definitely not Irish. Sounded more Scottish to me but a bit faltering in parts. Maybe just an American trying to fake our accents?

[Jimmy]

good theory...


but how did the crashed plane get into the sphere?

[Quiet Tempest]

I've been pondering about the "you have to lift it up" quote to. Not sure what to make of it yet.

I took it as a "you've got to have faith" sort of comment.. As an atheist, I get this sort of chat a lot. I could be way off, but that's my opinion on it. I think of Jack as a fellow atheist who refuses to believe in miracles and whatnot, and I can relate to him in that sense.

edit:

good theory...


but how did the crashed plane get into the sphere?

Maybe it had to do with the electro-magnetic stuff going on inside the hatch. It's the reason Locke's compass was inaccurate.. maybe it was strong enough to throw off the plane's navigation equipment and caused it to crash? This could also explain Danielle's team's ship wrecking on the island (and the Black Rock if it's at all possible that the hatch or the magnetism was there way back when).

[ZeroFrost]

Ok, very interesting facts right there...

but some things remain mysteries :

Polar bears
The "monster"
The "others"
The numbers and the badlucks of Hurley
The Black Rock/Portsmouth ship... dont forget this is a 1800s slave ship in the midle of the jungle...
The other plane

and I probably forget some!

I really think you got the perfect theory for the hatch... that it is a kind of test for a space station and that the ISLAND is quarantined while the hatch is a safe place. But why is the island quarantined ?!

[Raven O'Reilly]

Another Desmond: Desmond Morris wrote "The Naked Ape"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Morris

The book is about the animal-like qualities of humans, which brings me back to thinking about the "Lord of the Flies" reference and similarities. Would also follow the theme of books that we've seen in the show.

Ironic how wikipedia says that he's considered a pseudoscientist.

[Mossman]

it's definatly an amazing theory, HOWEVER, I kinda ruled out any type of sci fi with this show when I looked up the genre of the show and most listings listed it as drama/adventure.

This still doesnt explain the numbers and a lot of other things.

[MrFloppy]

This is just AMAZING!

[LOSTMAN]

This Desmond guy seems like he is on the island on purpose. That would be the first person that we have met that is on the island upon their own power. He was able to set up a living quarters there, with stuff that he possibly brought for himself. The stuff there seemed a bit dated, but maybe he just didn't care about materials much, considering he moved to an island by himself(?)... So it could be some sort of sphere idea. He seems like he has a scientific background(going to be a doctor). I also think that the writers are very educated on these matters as well though and they like to tie in different theory spoilers on the show. Just think, we all have a new theory every couple episodes. The writers counted on this. We should pay attention to all the details here. I still think Desmond coming there under his own power is a major thing, especially with his "hatch" having the numbers, injecting himself with the numbers and being protected from the island. He is definitely protecting himself from something. Possibly the effects that the island has on people. We've seen some good, ie Locke's healing. But could there be more bad instore too? Like "the sickness"? This would explain the hallucinogenic episodes maybe. And if they're supposed to be on this island. Are the others perhaps a guard to the exit of the island? Taking Walt will not lead to Michael, Sawyer and Jin to keep pursuing a way out. It will lure them back to the island.... Where Desmond will keep observing them(with all that technology in his "apartment"). For reasons still unbeknownst to us...

[Track]

Here's my take...

I think we're on to something with this hatch theory. It makes sense in the context of the show and some of the "theory" of Bernal makes sense as well. Of course, the writers of the show aren't going to copy something like this verbatim, but rather use it as they see fit and make it work in the continuity of the show.

Say they took the "idea" of Bernal's sphere and turned it into some sort of plot element for the show. Maybe the hatch is something like Bernal's sphere except it isn't so literal. We have something that looks like a biodome and it fits with Bernal's space station logic. In a true biodome, it is a sterile environment. Once the doors are closed, nothing should be let in or out - the point is that it should be entirely self-sufficient. Maybe the hatch area STARTED as a quarantined space but the strict idea of quarantine has been discarded based on a few unknown events that happened. If Desmond was originally put on the island to run the biodome, he'd have living quarters and a means to generate electricity, etc. The storyline suggests that Desmond HAS NOT been in the hatch the entire time so at some point he ruined the integrity of the quarantined space. It would explain the different time periods of the equipment in the hatch as well as Jack seeing Desmond at the stadium.

I'm throwing out the idea that "quarantine" and "the sickness" are unrelated and that "the sickness" didn't result in any quarantine. It's a red herring when looked at together. I'm thinking the serum he took might have more to do with the biodome experiment rather than prevention/treating "the sickness". I'll even go so far as to suggest that the sickness is not really a physical illness, but rather a mental one that people seem to be affected by while on the island. Maybe there is something that is making the people crazy (it could have something to do with any experiments the biodome was conducting or something "mystical" about the island itself).

Something is bringing people to the island and history suggests it's been happening for a while. The Black Rock being on the island would certainly predate any government lab that looks as if it was built in the 1970's. Maybe the hatch lab was built as a biodome to specifically study/harness whatever has been bringing people to the island.

One last thing. I agree with what people have been suggesting in another thread. I think the Others aren't neccesarily the enemy of our heroes. I'm willing to bet, as the story unfolds, that the Others ended up on the island in similar circumstances as the plane crash.

They might have a different idea of what's causing all the weirdness on the island and might even be trying to worship/appease the spirits/whatever is causing the island to be so weird. One thing's for sure. If they've got a boat and they're still on the island, there's something keeping them there. I haven't been able to figure out what that is yet. :)

--Track

[CP9]

Good theory - if Flight 815 actually made it into space. :rolleyes:

Otherwise it is no different than the "Truman Show" speculation that's been around awhile.

[Captain Panda]

I'm from Ireland and the accent is definitely not Irish. Sounded more Scottish to me but a bit faltering in parts. Maybe just an American trying to fake our accents?

My view exactly, Desmond definitely sounds Scottish, if it is supposed to be an irish accent, they seriously botched it.

[Raven O'Reilly]

I'm not even from Ireland and the accent sounded more Scottish to me also.

Henry Ian Cusick is the actor: http://imdb.com/name/nm0193738/

Says he was born in Peru. lol

Ha! http://www.tv.com/henry-ian-cusick/person/177829/summary.html

Says his father was Scottish but of an Irish Catholic descent. But he's lived in Scotland.

[lost_gal]

When Desmond and Jack were talking at the stadium, Desmond mentioned he was getting ready for a race around the world. Since Bernal developed the sphere for space travel, maybe Desmond was talking about LITERALLY going around the world.

[henryporter]

world doesn't have to refer to Earth, a person's world is just their living space, what they are aware of isn't it?

[CP9]

world doesn't have to refer to Earth, a person's world is just their living space, what they are aware of isn't it?

Still would have to explain how Flight 815 made it into space without them knowing.

[henryporter]

is the theory not that this hatch was an earth-bound test for the space-bound project?

Plane crash in space theories would be making one leap too far in my opinion.

[LOSTMAN]

815 might have not gone into space.... It might just be a sphere here on Earth, maybe under the oceans or something. A plane crash, I'm sure, is a confusing time and I don't think that any of them would have a clear account as to what was going on outside when it all happened. I'm ruling out a black hole type thing though. But I do agree that maybe the idea of this whole thing was partially taken from Bernal Spheres

[CP9]

If it's here on Earth, what's the difference between this theory and the Truman Show type scenarios that have been floated for months? The only thing unique about the Bernal sphere is the fact that it is constructed in a zero-gravity environment with an artificial means of simulating gravity. Take that away, and it's the same self-enclosed environment proposed many times.

[evangeline dream]

Hi guys, love the theory, but desmonds accent is definitely scottish, I'm married to a scot, and I immedeately recognised it as such. I just rewatched the stadium scene to confirm.

[Ascromortar]

I like this.

I'm leaning towards the possibility that the Creators have used this Bernal Sphere Info as inspiration. They've built on the idea and have added all their own mysterious elements (i.e. the monster, the miracles, polar bears, walt's powers).

I think this very well could be one of many elements behind the whole island. But I don't think it will be the ONLY element. There is still more stuff hidden from us.

[Track]

If it's here on Earth, what's the difference between this theory and the Truman Show type scenarios that have been floated for months? The only thing unique about the Bernal sphere is the fact that it is constructed in a zero-gravity environment with an artificial means of simulating gravity. Take that away, and it's the same self-enclosed environment proposed many times.

Yes. I think the people applying this theory to literal interpretations of the Bernal sphere are going down the wrong road. IF the writers used JD Bernal and his studies/writings/politics as a basis for this subplot I would think they're playing more on the psychological implications and what happens when you put people in a self-sufficient environment for long periods of time and/or the struggle in his writings between the Scientist and Society... The hatch is only a stage for this storyline to play out.

--Track

[CP9]

I guess my point is not that a self-enclosed environment is not a good theory, only that it is an old theory and nothing about the "Bernal sphere" adds anything to the theory that has existed for some time.

[sofie]

Yes. I think the people applying this theory to literal interpretations of the Bernal sphere are going down the wrong road. IF the writers used JD Bernal and his studies/writings/politics as a basis for this subplot I would think they're playing more on the psychological implications and what happens when you put people in a self-sufficient environment for long periods of time and/or the struggle in his writings between the Scientist and Society... The hatch is only a stage for this storyline to play out.

--Track

Absolutely agree! If this theory is true, it's just one element in a complex storyline.

[MissJenniPenni]

I live in Scotland and that is the WORST Scottish accent i have ever heard LOL

[Carrie123]

Yep - very poor effort at a scottish accent, either that or he from the Borders and picked up a bit of an American twang to it. Scary huge eyes though

[DogD]

I live in Scotland and that is the WORST Scottish accent i have ever heard LOL


I thought it was dead on "brotha" .. LOL :D

[allnite]

i read some where that on the maps sayid got from the freanchie there was a referance in french about 3 islands on one of the maps

[hmmm....]

i'm enjoying that the basis for this theory is an idea for a space station that someone came up with in 1929. a space station that would be filled with air. yeah. lets remember exactly what people knew of space back in 1929 and know a red herring when we see one.

[Noetic]

Yep - very poor effort at a scottish accent, either that or he from the Borders and picked up a bit of an American twang to it. Scary huge eyes though
Erm the actor is SCHOTTISH. And if the character's supposed to have lived in America (hence bumping into Jack), it isn't exactly surprising that he's picked up an accent?

[alch3mist]

great find sofie! 4 8 15 16 23 42

[lovinglost27]

I could be wrong, but I've heard that different parts of Scotland have slightly differing accents to them--just as people in different parts of America and England sound different--depending on where you're from. He definitely sounded scottish to me, and though I don't live in scotland, I am a little obsessed with all things concerning scotland. he sounded very much like Gerard Butler to me the minute I heard him--and he's one of my favie scottish actors.

But other than that in US cinema the Scottish guys always A) die, B) are bad guys, or C) both, I don't see why it really matters where he's from. He could have been visiting California and still have grown up in scotland.

[Escapader]

I think this is a great theory indeed. The only trouble I have with this is the fact that Desmond is going to have to take a long time to admit his true purpose. Naturally, in the next episode, and the following, they are going to learn at least a little bit from Desmond, but is he going to keep his little secret for quite some time? That part just seems unrealistic. They can only drag Desmond keeping this secret out for so long, it's not like in episode 20 of series 2 he's going to say, "Oh, by the way, you're in a Bernal Sphere!!"

Unless, like others have suggested, maybe this is not the biggest of their problems.

I still find it difficult comprehending how the plane is magically transported into a Bernal Sphere. Even with that said, I absolutely love this theory.

[Jimmy]

Listen to yourselves....

a plane crashing into outer space and just happens to crash into a bernal sphere? or a plane crash in the ocean and it crashed into a bernal sphere?

What ever happened to this just being an island, the sun still rises and sets, it has wildlife and it has a breathable atmosphere.


further to that....Danielles team`s boat crashed onto the island. last time i checked, boats dont cruise space and crash into bernal spheres, the boat crashed into rocks....remember? no one went into space....


The only way this is entirely possible is that everyone in this show, every character, every person that has interacted with other people were all born and raised in a closed environment such as the bernal sphere, who knows, maybe their plane crashed out of the bernal sphere and now they are living in the real world? maybe the bernal sphere leads to the real world? maybe its a bunker?

[Quiet Tempest]

Listen to yourselves....

a plane crashing into outer space and just happens to crash into a bernal sphere? or a plane crash in the ocean and it crashed into a bernal sphere?

What ever happened to this just being an island, the sun still rises and sets, it has wildlife and it has a breathable atmosphere.


further to that....Danielles team`s boat crashed onto the island. last time i checked, boats dont cruise space and crash into bernal spheres, the boat crashed into rocks....remember? no one went into space....


The only way this is entirely possible is that everyone in this show, every character, every person that has interacted with other people were all born and raised in a closed environment such as the bernal sphere, who knows, maybe their plane crashed out of the bernal sphere and now they are living in the real world? maybe the bernal sphere leads to the real world? maybe its a bunker?

That's not how I viewed it at all.. This thing that Desmond is living in could well be a test colony. Or maybe it fell from orbit and landed in the middle of the Pacific Ocean years ago and has since been visited by pirates (or just the ship had been lost at sea hundreds of years ago and ran aground here?), a science expedition, drug smugglers, and Flight 815...?

[Jimmy]

ok try this,

If Desmond watches over the island, why didnt he notice the folks above digging the hatch out?

Youd think that he would have noticed people digging at his back door if he was the security guard of the island?

[s288]

It seems to me he did notice the people digging at the hatch. He knew right where to look and had the mirrors already set up. I'm not saying I think he is monitoring the island, but he seemed to know someone was working on getting in.

[Veritas]

Ok, very interesting facts right there...

but some things remain mysteries :

Polar bears
The "monster"
The "others"
The numbers and the badlucks of Hurley
The Black Rock/Portsmouth ship... dont forget this is a 1800s slave ship in the midle of the jungle...
The other plane

and I probably forget some!

I really think you got the perfect theory for the hatch... that it is a kind of test for a space station and that the ISLAND is quarantined while the hatch is a safe place. But why is the island quarantined ?!

I think I have answers for a couple of these:

Polar Bears: These are from the mind of Walt. Remember when he made the bird slam into the window, and when he got the dice rolls he wanted. Well on at least the second occasion with a polar bear, it came just after he was reading the comic book that featured a polar bear.

The Monster: I don't think an actual Monster exists. It was called the island's security system. I think the black swarm/smoke is actually a massive amount of tiny robots, used to protect the island (or maybe Desmond).

The Others: This may just be following Achems Razor, but my guess is that the Others are the decendants of the surivivors of the Black Stone. Not sure if there were women on the ship or perhaps at one time there was natives (if its really an island).

Just some thoughts

[filostlover]

Ok how the hell would a plane crash onto an island in a biosphere in space? and also how would Danielle's boat have shipwrecked on the island in a biosphere in space?

[murbot]

Maybe they're all in a Bernal sphere on Orion's belt.

[TLAWMAI]

Check out the picture of one of Bernal's books... look at all the old computers. :)

http://www.comms.dcu.ie/sheehanh/bernal1c.jpg


The actor that plays Desmond even looks like John Desmond Bernal.

Pictures of John Desmond Bernal (http://www.npg.org.uk/live/search/person.asp?LinkID=mp05080)

I think we're on to something....

[Listen to Lenny]

VERY interesting aspects to this theory. I am going to join the camp that believes that there most certainly could be a tie-in, but not literal or direct. The writers could very well have borrowed some of the ideas of Bernal and incorporated them into a large story arc. The great thing about that is...

A. Knowledge of a tie-in to the Bernal Sphere does not unveil the story, only a part of it...and we don't know yet if it is a big part or a minor part of the whole story.

B. Other mysteries do not have to fit neatly into the Bernal Sphere, nor does the Bernal Sphere have to be able to explain the other mysteries.

In short, I think we are onto something, and as amazing as that something is, it IS just ONE part of a VERY large puzzle.

[CATFANCY]

This theory is just so awsome. I can picture the creators and writers of this show sending some gopher out for razor blades right now!!!

[TLAWMAI]

This may be the first TV show (that I can recall) that knows its audience such that they knew that blogs/message boards would fuel theories and thus more word of mouth advertising. Brilliant. Unfortunately, I wonder if the casual TV viewer, sans internet savvy and a DVR, isn't appreciating the show like they could otherwise.

[Bridge of Clay]

this is awesome! It does make sense, but I don't think it'll play a central role on the whole story, otherwise they wouldn't use "Desmond" as a name for the character inspired by a real person... the writers aren't supposed to make things easier for us.

But great find, nonetheless!!! :)

[Listen to Lenny]

This may be the first TV show (that I can recall) that knows its audience such that they knew that blogs/message boards would fuel theories and thus more word of mouth advertising. Brilliant. Unfortunately, I wonder if the casual TV viewer, sans internet savvy and a DVR, isn't appreciating the show like they could otherwise.

Most of my family and friends that watch the show with me are not as obsessive as I. They rely on me to be the resident conspiracy theorist. Yet, they enjoy the show VERY much. Just goes to show that whether you go in head first or watch from a distance, LOST is some of the best television ever!

[kkina]

I found a couple other sites on the 'net proposing the JD Bernal theory also, and a quick Google led me right back here. Anyway's about the accent, I think it's wise to remember that this is a TV production, and everyone is an actor. The actor playing Des happens to be of Scottish origin, but that wouldn't prohibit him from PORTRAYING an Irishman. Movies and tv are rife with such portrayals, e.g. Sean Connery, a scotsman who got paid for doing a bad English accent, or John Hillerman (from Texas!) on the old Magnum series, doing the same (hey, more power to them!)

One more thing, all the bios about Dr. Bernal mention his involvement with commmunism and the Soviet Union. One thing I noticed, all of his weapons were of Soviet origin: AK-47's, Makarov pistols, and a few others as well. Coincidence? Not on this show!

[Lotto#4815162342]

That's interesting that you found that connection with the name because on another lost message board someone made a connection with the Bernal Sphere and someone named Rousseau. Same as Danielle, Hhmmm...interesting=)

[ChipInMyHead]

What if, and this is my first post so bear with me, whatever's pulled all these things to the island also pulled the craft Desmond is in to earth? What if it was a space station, or Bernal sphere, or whatever, and it crashed there just like everything else? The injections could have had something to do with space travel. He may have tried out life on the island, found it annoying, and gone back into his hatch.

But I have yet to see an answer to my most pressing question. Where did Desmond get the fresh fruit for his smoothie? Huh? Where?

[Noetic]

What if it was a space station, or Bernal sphere, or whatever, and it crashed there just like everything else? The injections could have had something to do with space travel. He may have tried out life on the island, found it annoying, and gone back into his hatch.
It looked firmly equipped for life in gravity, not a weightless environment. None of the furniture was fastened to the floor/walls etc. to start with - would be a bit of a mess being in space like that! ;)

But I have yet to see an answer to my most pressing question. Where did Desmond get the fresh fruit for his smoothie? Huh? Where?
Looked canned to me, or dried in the case of the cherry.

[kkina]

The Bernal Sphere was envisioned as a rotating space station that uses centrifugal force to create an artificial gravity, so I think we're still alive with this theory. Bernal Space Station (http://www.l5news.org/bernalsphere.htm) (note also the comments about mirrors)

The fruit, you got me on.

[acrossthesea]

Has anyone seen Dark City?

[alexi]

Ok....this may sounds a little crazy...

What if...

If this is a test sphere, they would obviously need test subjects. What if some of the passengers on the plane were drugged or whatever, then put on the island, the plane was put there and burning to look as if they had crashed, and then it would go on from there. So the plane didnt in fact crash. This may explain where the other half of the plane is, the other passengers from the plane and also lead onto the black rock. Maybe these are just props in this sphere experiment?

:)

[fiction]

guys in one of the treads there wes a secret, micheals letter to walt the question was h14 and i have found somethign about it and it is related to lighthening system

Architectural Lighting
Form and Function
Hemisphere
H14, H20, H24

The striking "global" look of our Hemisphere luminaire adds architectural distinction to a wide range of environments. Hemisphere also gives you choices to fit virtually any lighting requirements with three sizes; arm, post top, and wall mountings; and many optical and wattage options. And, of course, it's built for easy maintenance and long life.


can it be releated with it ???

[Phantom Lord]

I think that Desmond has prepared for this a really long time. He needed people for the testing of the space station thingy so he "raced around the world" to find some that would seem fit for it. Then, somehow, he managed to get them all on flight 815. When the plane hit turbulence and the oxygen masks came down, there wasn´t any oxygen coming out of them. Instead they were all drugged and the plane landed close to launching site of the spacecraft which would take them to the spaceship. The environment inside was already prepared with plane wreckage and stuff, and there were also other people there since years ago when the project started.

Then Desmond goes into the hatch and observes everything that happens, releasing some polar bears here, and some monster stuff there, to make the people scared. The point of all this is to see how people reacts when faced by similar situations, and, of course, to try out all the technology that keeps this thing working.

All of this, of course sponsored by Sun´s father :p

[CurleyHurley]

Very interesting theory here. I think we may be on to something.

This also explains why Sawyer and Michael didn't get anywhere on their raft journey. They were just floating out in the middle of nowhere and the next thing they know, they are back on the island. That makes me think that they might be enclosed and this whole thing might just be true.

[alexi]

yea thats right!

almost like the truman show thing where he sails out and hits the edge. Thats what the guys in the boat were there for, preventing anyone figuring out that they are in an enclosed environment.

hrm...

[CurleyHurley]

I have been thinking about this a lot lately and I have found another piece of evidence that backs up this theory.

Shortly before Kate is crawling through the vent she is in a pantry full of food. She walks around and finds a box of candy bars with the word "Apollo" written on it. It looked like it had a space shuttle or something on it and looked to have a space theme on the wrapper. Why would the writers have placed a candy bar called Apollo with space designs on it in the story line if it wasn't significant? Sounds pretty strange unless the writers were going to take a spacey turn in the plot if you ask me.

Maybe I am reading into this to much but it just seems too ironic for it to not mean something. What do you guys think?

[Eccoglyph]

Heh - while it is entertaining to see how you can try to force every event to fit this pre-formed theory, I need to head back to what's practical. I think the writers are smarter than this. They know their fans are out there looking for clues and researching theories, so there is no way they will use a theory you can find on the internet. Their answers will involve meshing many different theories, plus something new that they came up with themselves. Every name does mean something, and the fact that they chose "Desmond" for this particular character is probably a shout-out to the Bernal Sphere, as well as a fun way to send the fans off in a new direction. The candy bar Apollo label might be tied to that, or to give us a time frame as to the age of the hatch (the space race was a marketing dream). I love them for it. That's not to say that elements of this theory aren't a part of the plan, but it won't be the whole plan. What I do like about the Bernal Sphere is it gives us a different idea as to why Desmond might be there. No government experiments, no observing people under pressure. Its about creating a new, isolated world, perhaps because the creator believes the outside world is ending (Desmond supports this.) Maybe the countdown isn't some security system to take the place out in case of a breach. Maybe he has to keep resetting it until all of the elements necessary for the next phase have arrived. Desmond doesn't seem to be the one with answers - he just needs to press those buttons until someone arrives to take them into Phase II. "Are you him?"

[pika-pau]

Wait, wait, wait. What superhuman strength????
Truman Show sorta?

Wouldnt the hatch be deeper than 40 feet?

Also, as someone else mentioned. What would this have to do with....

A. a plain crashing
B. Specific people surving
C. these people having something in commen with each other.
d. Walt? Walt? Walt?
e. Locke Walking again
f. the black smoke that seems mechanical.
g. 4-8-15-16-23-42?
h. 108?
I. Super Human Strength?

I am not saying I dont like the theory, just going into it a little deeper.

Only thing that bugs me about this is.....the writers have seen how many theories eveeyone has about this show. Giving up the name Desmond would be a gimme to the plot line since so many people are really putting a lot of time into this shows' plot and clues. Everything they put in the show probably gets googled 100,000 times every wed night, and thursday morning.

Just some thoughts...But a great read.

[elbeckum]

not sure if this goes in this thread but... do you think desmond knew he was going to see jack again, after their encounter at the stadium?? his last words to jack were something to the effect of, "see you in the next (another) life? do you think this had to do with anything in the show or just something he randomly said?

[jjstud8]

I have been thinking about this a lot lately and I have found another piece of evidence that backs up this theory.

Shortly before Kate is crawling through the vent she is in a pantry full of food. She walks around and finds a box of candy bars with the word "Apollo" written on it. It looked like it had a space shuttle or something on it and looked to have a space theme on the wrapper. Why would the writers have placed a candy bar called Apollo with space designs on it in the story line if it wasn't significant? Sounds pretty strange unless the writers were going to take a spacey turn in the plot if you ask me.

Maybe I am reading into this to much but it just seems too ironic for it to not mean something. What do you guys think?

Someone mentioned that Apollo is a brand of candy (ie M&Ms) in Japan by Meiji or something. http://store1.yimg.com/I/2yoyo_1856_12894387

http://www.meiji.co.jp/en/greet/index.html

[CurleyHurley]

Someone mentioned that Apollo is a brand of candy (ie M&Ms) in Japan or something. <img src="http://store1.yimg.com/I/2yoyo_1856_12894387">

http://store1.yimg.com/I/2yoyo_1856_12894387
Yes but what are the odds that the filmakers choose that candy bar for the scene? Something must have made them want to use Apollo for a reason.

[jjstud8]

Yes but what are the odds that the filmakers choose that candy bar for the scene? Something must have made them want to use Apollo for a reason.

Well I know there isn't much product placement in this series but since the company has been around forever it might just be relevant when Desmond says who he works for and the company is possibly of Asian background...not saying its related to Sun's father...although...logos tell us that. Anyway, chocolate could be just an indication that the company is related to the island

[Tau]

I googled around abit and found a page with both "Bernal-Sphere" and "Dharma" in it.

Appearntly Dharma has something to do with Buddism.

Links: http://www.orionsarm.com/eg/a-z.html
Dharma part: http://www.orionsarm.com/eg/d/De-Dh.html#dharma
The Bernal-Sphere part was under construction.

Edit: You can find Dharma in almost every dictionary.
"dharma:
Buddhist teaching or moral law; laws of nature, all that exists, real or imaginary."

Edit2: The buddha-teaching has a Snake in it too(Weren't there a snake on the Dharma-symbol?)
I'm just punching wild here, but maybe the symbol everywhere in Lost has something to do with Buddhism?

[Jade1021]

I googled the song "Make Your Own Kind of Music" that was playing in "Man of Science Man of Faith" and found that it came out in 71' which which would make it the up and coming music when bernal died the same year which would also match up with the decor, the computer quality, the pingpong table(In the background when Locke and Desmond were talking). My personal theroy is that Bernal never died and that stuff he was injecting into his arm was to make him youger.

Too many things matching up to be happenstance.

[scary]

The Apple II didn't come out until 1977 and the Apple I came out in 1976.

See: http://apple2history.org/history/ah04.html#06

-Mike

I googled the song "Make Your Own Kind of Music" that was playing in "Man of Science Man of Faith" and found that it came out in 71' which which would make it the up and coming music when bernal died the same year which would also match up with the decor, the computer quality, the pingpong table(In the background when Locke and Desmond were talking). My personal theroy is that Bernal never died and that stuff he was injecting into his arm was to make him youger.

Too many things matching up to be happenstance.

[White Lotus]

Great ;)

I found something else about "Bernal Sphere" :

"A Bernal sphere is a type of space habitat intended as a long-term home for permanent residents, first proposed in 1929 by Dr. John Desmond Bernal.

Dr. Bernal's original proposal described a hollow spherical shell 16 km in diameter, with a target population of 20,000 to 30,000 people. The Bernal sphere would be filled with air.

In a series of studies held at Stanford University in 1975 and 1976 with the purpose of speculating on designs for future space colonies, Dr. Gerard Kitchen O'Neill proposed a modified Bernal sphere with a diameter of only 500 m rotating at 1.9 RPM to produce a full Earth gravity at the sphere's equator. The result would be an interior landscape that would resemble a large valley running all the way around the equator of the sphere. Sunlight was to be provided to the interior of the sphere using external mirrors to direct it in through large windows near the poles. The form of a sphere was chosen for its optimum ability to contain air pressure and its optimum mass-efficiency at providing radiation shielding.

This version of the Bernal sphere was dubbed the "Island One" design, and was sized for a population of 10,000. For comparison, Island Two would house 140,000, and Island Three (O'Neill cylinder) would support a population of 10,000,000. "

http://encyclopedie-en.snyke.com/articles/bernal_sphere.html

http://www.comms.dcu.ie/sheehanh/bernal.htm

"John Desmond Bernal was a prominent international scientist, born in Nenagh, Co Tipperary, Ireland. He did pioneering work in X-ray crystallography. He was Professor of Physics at Birkbeck College, University of London and a Fellow of the Royal Society. ...."


NOTICE HIS PORTRAIT....

CREEPY

OMG!!! This would explain a lot of things ... the quickly rising tides, the ship/black rock in the middle of the island, the mirors inside of the hatch, dude's name being Desmond, his accent and him preparing for a "race", him almost being a DR., the "so called" security devise/monster on the island ... DAMN!!! Very intresting, in deed!!!

Sofie and Colonel_Kurtz, YOU GUYS ARE THE WOMAN/MAN!!!!!!!

[White Lotus]

This is an AWESOME idea.

The thing is, even if this is exactly it, it still doesn't really spoil anything. It doesn't explain WHY they crashed on the island. It doesn't explain HOW Locke can walk now. It doesn't explain anything other than WHAT the hatch is.

True ... I totally agree

[White Lotus]

Truman Show sorta?

Wouldnt the hatch be deeper than 40 feet?

Also, as someone else mentioned. What would this have to do with....

A. a plain crashing
B. Specific people surving
C. these people having something in commen with each other.
d. Walt? Walt? Walt?
e. Locke Walking again
f. the black smoke that seems mechanical.
g. 4-8-15-16-23-42?
h. 108?
I. Super Human Strength?

I am not saying I dont like the theory, just going into it a little deeper.

Only thing that bugs me about this is.....the writers have seen how many theories eveeyone has about this show. Giving up the name Desmond would be a gimme to the plot line since so many people are really putting a lot of time into this shows' plot and clues. Everything they put in the show probably gets googled 100,000 times every wed night, and thursday morning.

Just some thoughts...But a great read.

Good questions here ... that's why it's not to big of a spoiler IMO, great theory, but there is still so much more that has to be dug up so to speak.

I personally think Walt and his reading plays a big role in what is going on.

1) Remember when they did part of his back story, and he wanted to get his mom's attention? She kept on talking to Brian, then the same bird that he was reading about in his text book flew into the glass.

2) When he was playing backgammon with Hugo, every number that he though of, he just so happened to roll.

3) He pictured, in his "mind's eye", throwing that knife into the tree, and he was able to do it.

4) The Spanish comic book he's reading has a damn polar bear and a hatch/space station in it and I'll be damned if they aren't on the island to ... lol.

Maybe he has the ability to materialize whatever he reads or thinks somehow or something along those lines. I mean, both Brian and Locke did said he was "different" and Brian went a step further by saying that "things happen" when he's around... I guess I'll have to wait and see.

[daveyt]

...and I raise you a Dyson Sphere. Why not go the whole hog and get one of these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere).

Whilst the geek in me loves the idea of either theories, I just dont think a prime time show would do it. Most people do not read these forums, participate in internet chat about the show, its just another programme that comes on TV every week. A lot of people will talk about the show the next day but to the vast majority, its just another show... sorry!

Once shows go "sci fi", watch the ratings drop through the floor.

[White Lotus]

I think I have answers for a couple of these:

Polar Bears: These are from the mind of Walt. Remember when he made the bird slam into the window, and when he got the dice rolls he wanted. Well on at least the second occasion with a polar bear, it came just after he was reading the comic book that featured a polar bear.

The Monster: I don't think an actual Monster exists. It was called the island's security system. I think the black swarm/smoke is actually a massive amount of tiny robots, used to protect the island (or maybe Desmond).

The Others: This may just be following Achems Razor, but my guess is that the Others are the decendants of the surivivors of the Black Stone. Not sure if there were women on the ship or perhaps at one time there was natives (if its really an island).

Just some thoughts

Haha ... my thoughts as well ... I'm lovin' this thread!!!

[White Lotus]

Ok....this may sounds a little crazy...

What if...

If this is a test sphere, they would obviously need test subjects. What if some of the passengers on the plane were drugged or whatever, then put on the island, the plane was put there and burning to look as if they had crashed, and then it would go on from there. So the plane didnt in fact crash. This may explain where the other half of the plane is, the other passengers from the plane and also lead onto the black rock. Maybe these are just props in this sphere experiment?

:)
hmmm ... this is also an interesting one ...

[uncwigg@yahoo.co]

No need to jump into space to bring down a Bernal Sphere. The structure in view in LOST's underground chamber is a 1970's favorite: a geodesic dome.

1971 when the Mama Cass Song was released, and the early 1970's in general, was a time when the theories of Buckminster Fuller made Geodesic Domes popular; and their consatruction was the state of the art in archetecture. The "dome" we see in LOST's underground is so clearly geodesic. For those of you who missed the 70's and didn't get to see these (fairly ugly) half dome houses spring up on vacant lots around the country, a geodesic dome is made of conjoined triangles, and is the strongest of load bearing shapes. Undoubtedly, this makes it perfect for bearing the weight of an underground chamber.

The Desmond connection? Consider another possibility.

Desmond is a conflation of two real people.

Desmond Hampton whose boat, the Gypsy Moth V, was part of the 1982 "RaceAround the World.” While battling for the lead off the waters of Australia, he took an ill-timed nap as he neared land, and ended up on the rocks.

Donald Crowhurst, who entered the "Race Around the World" in 1968, and was never found, that is his boat was found in near Jamaica - sans Mr. Crowhurst. However his last broadcast location was in the South Pacific. Donald Crowhurst remains missing.

I suggest that Desmond, with medical training, was a project researcher, who arrived in the South Pacific, under cover of the famous nautical race, to head up a medical research team run by a government funded private corporation to perform experiments in mind altering drugs – another popular 1970’s fascination. Island contamination with psychedelics would explain all the strange sightings. And might it not explain Lock’s cure if his paralysis were in reality psychogenic?

[clinghopper]

Desmonds accent is definately Irish! (im from the UK)
Sorry, i'm from Ireland and having also spent time around the UK, that accent is blatently Scottish, it's missing everything that defines any type of Irish accent (regional dialect deviations etc) i've ever heard and i'm sure I've heard most. His accent is definatley scottish. (Unless he is a terrible actor and can't distinguish between the 2 accents but that is a major oversight if he to be a focal character)

James

[Anabolic Sterios]

"dude... were lost"

[Mischa84]

where have some of you been in math classes?
for those who always ask again:
108 is stil the sum of 4 8 15 16 23 42
and if you know it the coordinates 4.815.162.342 are somewhere at that place we think that the island is
so, is it perhaps necessary, that you put these coordinates into the computer?

[MaxLogan]

Awsome...i had the same theory...
it all makes sense....

chech out this
http://www.ikilljoy.com/lostdiscussion/viewtopic.php?t=21

it is to do with the numbers and the star system..it works with the Bernal theory very well......

[MaxLogan]

It appears that the Bernel sphere is massive and that the whole world has been replicated inside of it....can the island be a parallel to the Bermuda triangle...all these people are living inside a human colony in outerspace..but are oblivious to the fact...the hatch may be way out of the Bernel sphere, the control center..the numbers may represent the alignment control of the system to maintain correct orbit/ gravity....there may be a massive problem with the control system and that is the only way to keep it aligned, for the time being....

[Boone_lover]

This whole idea about the Bernel sphere is good but if all this was taking place in the 70s then wouldn't he have met Jack in the 70s or earlier and Jack is much too young for that and desmond doesn't look like he's graying or anything.

The only possibility to go againstthis is that Desmond has left te Hatch.

Remeber he said to Locke "So the world's still out there then?" in the next episode.

[MaxLogan]

it may have been built in the 70's, but it is the present. hence all the tech in the hatch is out dated.

[hellwind]

A Desmond Sphere ? cool...and think in another thing that Desmond said, he said that you can´t go far off the coast , no matter where you are bearing to (except bear 325 ?) , so that means the water extensions are limited , 4 miles from the coast, so they are confined in a sphere or dome.
Anyway , there are some black points... , that terrain & water extension needs a huge massive superstructure to hold it ....where? on the air? magnetic attraction between the sphere and the real earth ? oh man...my head...need some rest.:shock:

[mrchard39]

i wonder if the writers of LOST are reading our posts...and getting new ideas for the show!! WE could be helping them write future episodes!!!