Official Walt and What He Said Discussion

[ROUGHNECK]

what did he say to shannon

[silverbugeye]

I tried to listen about 40 times and couldnt understand it

[grhawi]

Walt was talking backwards. What he said, when reversed, was the following: "Press the button. No button's bad."

[SofiaA]

I didn't get it either. I had the captions on and I don't think it had anything written for when Walt was whispering.

Walt was talking backwards. What he said, when reversed, was the following: "Press the button. No button's bad."How did you figure that?

[stunnedtina]

Yeah how do you figure that one? who do you reverse with sound to find out what he was saying backwards? That's a bit of a confusion for me!

[grhawi]

Reverse it with Windows Sound Recorder. If you would like to listen, be my guest:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/p/s/psm5005/walt.wav

[Lost_Mommy]

wow!!! that is just creepy. Thanks for that! What button though? Something in the hatch??

[ROUGHNECK]

maybe the button jack was getting ready to push and the locke said i wouldnt do that

[grhawi]

The "execute" button, in my opinion. Walt has been "altered" (dare I say "brainwashed") by the Others. Pressing the "execute" button is somehow beneficial to the Others and detrimental to the crash survivors. Thus, Walt's instruction and subsequent qualification that "no button's bad" is an attempt at deception and manipulation. Why he had to say it backwards, I do not know.

[stunnedtina]

Oh wow that's so cool! I wonder what botton and why he said it backwards. Like I said right after watching this episode. It was a weird one!

[The Czar]

But remember Walt said "DONT OPEN IT"

[Astraea]

Or, vice versa. It will help him, and he hasn't been manipulated by the others yet. Free up the Others?

[Count2Five]

Yeah, if they ever get Walt back, do you tihnk he might not remember anything like Claire didn't?

[grhawi]

This was before he was captured and "altered" by the others, which gives evidence to my theory that opening the hatch and subsequently pressing the "execute" button is somehow beneficial to the others and detrimental to the survivors.

[Astraea]

Forgot he warned against opening it. Great point!

[chainofflowers1]

whoa! I think it's a little too soon to speculate that Walt has been altered. First of all, possible hallucinations pop up all the time on this island (Jack's Father, Boone's lucid dream about Shannon being mauled, the freaking polar bears). So what's to say Walt was ever even really there? Furthermore Walt is "special" in some way. Maybe he found a way to use that gift to reach Shannon. He has established a weird kind of bond with her, even trusting her enough to take Vincent. At any rate, he looked kind of creepy just standing there dripping and whispering...

[The Czar]

he looked drenched in oil to me

[Lost_Mommy]

2 points....

1-I don't think he could be brainwashed yet. They only just took him. This is still the same night on the island. I don't think it has been more then an hour or two since they took him.

and 2-there could be two meaning to this.
1-he could be saying in effect don't push a button. Like, "push the button? NO-button is bad!"

2-he could be actually saying push the button. Like, "push the botton...no button in bad." as in, non of the buttons are bad.

Don't know what to make of this yet, but it's really creepy.

[NYLostFan]

I don't think walt was really there....I think it was in her mind.

[Astraea]

But when it's been an hallucination, they usually do something to show it's just that. Explained that Jack's father was dead. Showed Shannon alive after Boone's thing. They didn't show that with Walt, short of him disappearing so fast.

[pftsobfreak]

But it wasn't really Walt. It was a hallucination. Maybe it was the island gave Shannon a hallucination of Walt so she knows she trust him, but the island is misleading her. Get what I'm saying?

[NYLostFan]

But when it's been an hallucination, they usually do something to show it's just that. Explained that Jack's father was dead. Showed Shannon alive after Boone's thing. They didn't show that with Walt, short of him disappearing so fast.

He was soaking wet....at night in the middle of the jungle...Im pretty sure he is dry from his boat trip by now,if in fact it was him...I mean the kid had more then a normal amount of water pooring off of him.

[NYLostFan]

But it wasn't really Walt. It was a hallucination. Maybe it was the island gave Shannon a hallucination of Walt so she knows she trust him, but the island is misleading her. Get what I'm saying?

That's what i think...

[Astraea]

Yeah, I know. It's just... so very weird. Didn't even look like water, really.

[LOST_arbiter]

"Press the button, no buttons bad." That's freaky. I can't even think straight I'm so hyped up!!!!!!!!! Plus its midnight on a school night.

[Lost_Mommy]

Okay, here's a question for you...If it was a hallucination of Shannon's, why would she hallucinate about him being wet? She has no idea that he is no longer on the raft. Wouldn't she have imagined him as being dry? That is why I think he was really there, in a sort of spiritual way i mean.


Ps....as a mommy, I have to say to Lost-arbitor....go to bed! LOL

[LA2SA]

or, is it "press the button -- no, button's bad"? that kinda mirrors what happens - jack tries to press it - and locke says no, that its bad.

[NYLostFan]

Okay, here's a question for you...If it was a hallucination of Shannon's, why would she hallucinate about him being wet? She has no idea that he is no longer on the raft. Wouldn't she have imagined him as being dry? That is why I think he was really there, in a sort of spiritual way i mean.


Ps....as a mommy, I have to say to Lost-arbitor....go to bed! LOL It was a hallucination made by the island not shannon's mind. The Island knows he was all wet :D

[Enigma-X]

Remember when Locke asked kate if she saw the pillar of smoke grab him. Then he said "I wander what jack saw" I don't believe its not hallucinations but its the "smoke/creature/security systems taking on different shapes. i still can't figure why it would try to communicate with Shannon though... and talking about buttons.
And the script page mentioning Jack1 and Jack2. I think it will be the smoke not a clone.

[NYLostFan]

Remember when Locke asked kate if she saw the pillar of smoke grab him. Then he said "I wander what jack saw" I don't believe its not hallucinations but its the "smoke/creature/security systems taking on different shapes. i still can't figure why it would try to communicate with Shannon though... and talking about buttons.
And the script page mentioning Jack1 and Jack2. I think it will be the smoke not a clone.

My guess would be shannon is mentally weak at this point....and soon enough a hallucination of Boone will lead her somewhere(like Jack's dad) and she will push some button.

Just a guess.

[Glassball]

This is so weird. I think it's a hallucination by the island. It has to. So many people have heard wispers or hallucinated. I think Locke is on the right track, even though it doesn't look like.

Other than that.. was it just me, or did Vincent look scaarry by himself in the dark lol.

[UConnBigO]

I think it had to be a hallucination, why would they have Sayid mention that shannon hasnt slept in days or whatever, and also, its not as if every other hallucination was wrapped up in the same episode, jack saw his dad once, far away, and then the next episode covered the rest of the story.

also, i dont think simply pressing the 'execute' button is bad, the computer had a damn prompt, and desmond inputted something and hit it the first time, when jack almost hit it, it was a blank prompt, it just would have shown another line like this >: below it

now i dont think that desmond controls the island or the security system from the bunker in the hatch, but if he does, maybe like the thing or the 'island' does what he tells it to do, and when its done doing its command it prompts again, remember how it suddenly beeped and woke him up, then he rushed to the computer (and people say he entered the numbers immediately), so at least we know that he thinks he is needed at the computers, he could just be nuts like everyone else on the island and thinks hes doing something he isnt

i find it odd that everyone thinks hes this allknowing evil deity just because he was in jack's past, i say hes nuts, but he does know things, just like rousseau

[LOST_arbiter]

Okay, here's a question for you...If it was a hallucination of Shannon's, why would she hallucinate about him being wet? She has no idea that he is no longer on the raft. Wouldn't she have imagined him as being dry? That is why I think he was really there, in a sort of spiritual way i mean.To answer, I ask another question: When did Walt get wet?

By the way,
Ps....as a mommy, I have to say to Lost-arbiter....go to bed! LOLI'll live. :p

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was it just me, or did Vincent look scaarry by himself in the dark lol.No, I admit it, I jumped in fear when he turned around suddenly. :D :eek:

[itswolfy]

Walt wasnt there, and we dont think it was water, it was a message from the island, well thats what we think

[LOST_arbiter]

^Well it looked kinda like oil. What do you mean a message? A liquified message dumped on a kidnapped boy in a jungle on a deserted (but not really deserted) island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean? :D

[Sway]

I don't think Walt was physically there, absolutely not. But maybe that's why Vincent was out there, he saw Walt too. I think the "drenched in water" thing was either Shanon's mind relating Walt to being on the raft = water, or water has something to do with "the others" (remember how Locke said 'the others' came from the water to kill Scott/Steve that night when they threatened Claire?)

[Sawmill]

The "execute" button, in my opinion. Walt has been "altered" (dare I say "brainwashed") by the Others. Pressing the "execute" button is somehow beneficial to the Others and detrimental to the crash survivors. Thus, Walt's instruction and subsequent qualification that "no button's bad" is an attempt at deception and manipulation. Why he had to say it backwards, I do not know.


Water is often symbolic for baptism...or change. Walt was covered in it....

[Sawmill]

it was a blank prompt, it just would have shown another line like this >: below it



isn't >: the sign for evil- like an evil smily face??

[pftsobfreak]

Does anyone else's brain hurt right now?

[artynmay]

why would they flip it backwards? forwards it sounds like

"i answer to no one, no one but her/no one's here"

[Springy]

My brother aced this.

Walt is somewhere on the island.

Vincent is the key. Remember, when Walt left, Vincent trekked out into the water after him. This episode, when Vincent runs off in the beginning, it isn't clear where he's going, or why he's even running at all. I think he's running to go find Walt.

Therefore Walt has to be back on the island somewhere.

[pftsobfreak]

I think they would flip it backwards to hide it from us, give us a hidden. But they can't get anything past us. They thought Hurley was well hidden in IT when he was on TV, but nearly everyone spotted it the first time around. I think this is a similar situation. They probably thought if they flipped it backwards, it would throw us off.

[artynmay]

I just think that the whole "i answer to no one, no one but her/no one's here" thing makes more sence, i mean, Maybe he only answers to Alex....

[pftsobfreak]

I definetely have to rewatch this part a couple hundred times. lol.

[BOONE182]

ok that is FU@#$NG CRAZY !

[shred]

Vincent is the key. Remember, when Walt left, Vincent trekked out into the water after him. This episode, when Vincent runs off in the beginning, it isn't clear where he's going, or why he's even running at all. I think he's running to go find Walt.

You and your brother have it right. Vincent didn't go wandering off to see a Shannon hallucination.

[pftsobfreak]

So do you think it was really Walt?

[shred]

So do you think it was really Walt?

I do. And I'm thinking the "her" he talks about is either his mother or his nanny.

[lilaena]

I thought it was Walt trying to communicate with her - and because she was sleep deprived and he had a connection to her through Vincent (his closest companion) that it was the simplest for him to reach out to her.

However, we've never seen Walt do anything like this before, and he wasn't very good at it either - I mean, speaking backwards? C'mon kid, give her something she can use!

[pftsobfreak]

I still think it was a hallucination of the island.

[zeionez]

I think walt is being tortured by being dunked underwater or oil or whatever he was covered with . his life jacket was missing. and he was either projecting through his dog or his dog sensed his presence.

[pftsobfreak]

Oh God, I hope he's not being tortured. :worry:

[LostTop10]

Ok.I haven´t seen the ep.Maybe by friday.But from what ive been reading i have a few thoughts:
Alucination or not? Not sure only when i see it with my eyes.
If he is there ,then he must be parcially brainwashed.

As for what he says,someone was kind enough to put in here the reverse dialogue,could someone put the normal version?Thanks and keep your ops coming.

[DykeZuki]

There is not enough time to BrainWash someone.

To us it has been months, but to them it's still the SAME NIGHT.

[Serendipitous]

I think they would flip it backwards to hide it from us, give us a hidden. But they can't get anything past us. They thought Hurley was well hidden in IT when he was on TV, but nearly everyone spotted it the first time around. I think this is a similar situation. They probably thought if they flipped it backwards, it would throw us off.

I just started browsing this forum just recently, and I don't know what you're talking about when you mention how people figured out "hurley and being hidden" Can anyone tell me what that was about?

[bapenguin]

It's REAL easy to know this is a hallucination.

When Jack Hallucinated about his father, the writers took great care to say Jack hadn't slept in days, etc. This was even mentioned in an interview.

What did Sayid say to Shannon? That she looked tired and hungry, that she hasn't slept and she needed rest. Then boom, Walt appears.

Hallucination.

[pftsobfreak]

^ ^ Exactly! And Walt just disappeared into thin air. Hallucination.

I just started browsing this forum just recently, and I don't know what you're talking about when you mention how people figured out "hurley and being hidden" Can anyone tell me what that was about?

In Jin's flashback, you can clearly see Hurley on the TV, but the writers/producers tried hiding, hoping that maybe a few people might see, but everybody saw it.

[sugar_slayer]

but did jack really hallucinate that his father was on the island
maybe he really was

so um is walt saying that he only answers to her or is he being all willy wonka with the buttons.

i think "i answer to her only to her" makes so much more sense.

and i don't think it was walt but i agree that the key to finding walt is thru vincent
and vincent lead shannon to where she could "see" walt

[AmyMac]

ok, I have an idea here, just follow me for a minute. Now we all know one simple truth, Walt is special and has special powers. It is widely theorized that he made up the polar bear if not in the pilot, than at least he made it come to life in his episode for the purpose of his father paying attention to him or something.

There is a thing that one can do through meditation, astral projection, that allows the person to project their spirit out of their body to see other things. My theory is this, what if Walt was doing this in an attempt to communicate with Shannon. We know he already feels a connection to her, he gave her the dog. He's scared of Locke because of the hatch thing, so it makes sense he would go to her. Now, what if this is a reaction on his part to being so scared and he subconsciously astral projects himself? He's a child so I don't imagine he would be very practiced at it. And what if the message that he is trying to send her is garbled because of that? It would also explain why the image wasn't there for very long, he's not good at it yet. That or something happened that made the image cut itself off.

Just me thinking out loud. Here is a link on Astral Projection if you're curious.

Astral Projection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_projection)

[pftsobfreak]

But Jack's father died, he saw his body in the morgue.

[sugar_slayer]

are you responding to my comment

yea i know hes dead i was just joking - or maybe on this island you don't just die hmmm

astral projection is entirely possible
not sure of the powers thing but i do believe some of the stuff on the island is mystical/magical even

[LostMind]

[QUOTE=AmyMac]ok, I have an idea here, just follow me for a minute. Now we all know one simple truth, Walt is special and has special powers. It is widely theorized that he made up the polar bear if not in the pilot, than at least he made it come to life in his episode for the purpose of his father paying attention to him or something.


Ok, just a thought but Walt was "reading" that comic that Hurley had on the plane, it was in spanish but Walt said he liked the pictures, wasn't there a big a$$ polar bear in the comic? Maybe thats where he came up with that. Anyone remeber what Walt was doing when the first polar bear showed up??

I think Walt wasn't there physically but mentaly, just like jack's dad. I mean, Jack followed his dad that just happen to lead to the caves with the casket there?? a Hallucination doesnt have meaning like that..

[xnera]

yea i know hes dead i was just joking - or maybe on this island you don't just die hmmm

well he did die... but his body was on the plane, and if I remember correctly, when Jack found the casket it was empty...

[elleesa]

We don't know Jack's father's body was on the plane. The casket was on the plane. It might have been empty.

I think the vision of Walt + the whispers in the trees mean he was trying to tell Shannon something.

[AlexanderDelarge]

Jack's father was indeed supossed to be on the plane and the casket was empty.

[Blaster]

I think Walt was a hologram. And he wasn't talking to Shannon. His image was just displayed there for who knows why.

[dew]

I don't know if Walt was actually there or not, but I do believe that Walt was trying to communicate with Shannon.

Although, I'm listening to a different soundclip than the .wav found in this topic. I'm actually hearing "don't press the button, the button is bad" played backwards. Hurley said "Don't light the fuse, the numbers are bad!", so the manner of speaking has been used before. We'll see what happens, but I wouldn't be surprised if somebody pushes a button and something bad happens.

http://www.foxmod.com/lost/Walt.mp3

[GeorgiasMama]

I don't think Shannon seeing Walt was a hallucination at all. The reason being that she heard the whispers right before she saw him. We know the whispers are real because other characters have heard them including Sayid and Sawyer, who are pretty stable mentally. Danielle has heard the whispers and heard them saying they were coming for the boy, who she thought was Aaron but turned out to be Walt.

We know the whispers are from The Others because of what Danielle heard and what happened to Walt. We know The Others are real b/c we saw them take Walt.

Shannon heard the whispers, which must have meant that The Others were close by, who we know took Walt. Maybe when they are whispering they have some way of hiding themselves and for a moment were not able to hide Walt or Walt found some way with his abilities to allow Shannon to see him.

Plus, why would Vincent have run off? He must have sensed Walt's presence.

[grish2001]

Does anyone have the other episodes with the whispers? one with sayid, and one with sawyer, i would love to hear those backwards!

[jedi517]

Remember how Locke said Walt was more different than the rest of us when he was talking to Michael in Season 1. Walt was able to kill that bird that flew into the window in one of his flashbacks, maybe he has some kind of telepathic power which enabled him to try and communicate with Shannon. Just throwing that out there.

[grish2001]

I think these whispers are those who are captured and for whatever reason they talk backwards

[romack]

he deffo says "press the button, no button's bad"

[stunnedtina]

jedi517 i don't think Walt was there and you have a good point, it's possible he somehow made Shannon see him without him being there to communicate with her. It doesn't appear that he has affected anything around him, you don't hear him appear in the leaves or weeds around him, and you don't hear him leave. So I'm thinking he somehow done a telepathic thing to communicate with Shannon.

[Quiet Tempest]

I just think that the whole "i answer to no one, no one but her/no one's here" thing makes more sence, i mean, Maybe he only answers to Alex....

I've been reading that Walt's message, heard backwards is "don't push the button, the button is bad"

[Lost_Mommy]

Yeah, that is what is says, here is a link to it if you want.

http://rugergirl10.tripod.com/walt.wav

hope it works.

[bibwis tolstarx]

It looks like you have to sign up to use it.

stunnedtina & jedi--I think you're right. Maybe Shannon has the ability to "see" people--she may have a gift too--we don't know yet.

Has anyone thought that maybe Walt jumped out of the boat and is trying to swim to shore and that's why he's wet?

[philotech]

I think we should reverse all the whispers heard from the "others". I can totally see them incorporating something like this... http://www.reversespeech.com

[DykeZuki]

I think it was either a Hallucination or a Vision of sorts.

And the Whipsers are just an auditory hallucination caused by paranoia and happening in certain parts of the island. Maybe a plant with a slightly Hallucinigenic Properties to it they they have brushed up against. Maybe sounds produced from the Hatch if someone gets "too close" to scare the beejezus out of someone.

Eh? WHo knows... Next Episode Please!

[Lostinlife3]

i think Walt is dead......

1) we disappeared quick from Shannon's sight, just like Jack's dad did from his...

2) He was DRIPPIng wet, yet Jack said the hatch was a good half mile inland, so how could Walt run all the half mile and still look dripping wet?

3) he whispered...is it possible everyone who dies on that island whispers?

[wiggum]

My wife had a thought. With the new rumor being that everyones mirror image is on the island, perhaps this was Walts mirror image and that is why his speech was backwards, just like your image is backwards in a mirror. Probably nothing to it but just thought I would throw that out there.

[Quiet Tempest]

Neat theory, Wiggum.

[jedi517]

i think Walt is dead......

1) we disappeared quick from Shannon's sight, just like Jack's dad did from his...

2) He was DRIPPIng wet, yet Jack said the hatch was a good half mile inland, so how could Walt run all the half mile and still look dripping wet?

3) he whispered...is it possible everyone who dies on that island whispers?

I don't know if the question about Jack's Dad being alive or dead has been answered yet.

[bibwis tolstarx]

Danielle said "the others" whispered and they're not dead. I'm pretty sure that unless the island has some way of re-animating a dead corpse, that Jack's dad is really dead (if his body was even on the plane--not entirely sure about that).

[Lostinlife3]

ok well....Jack's dad was dead BEFORE they landed on the island...at least....that would make sense i dont think he woulda been alive beforehand without Jack knowing

[LostPack]

I'm actually hearing "don't press the button, the button is bad" played backwards. http://www.foxmod.com/lost/Walt.mp3 Ok -- until I read this, I didn't hear anything that made sense.. once I read don't press the button.., I hear..
"press the button, the buttons mishh"
LOL - and it sounds very freaky. But I'm not hearing the button is bad.

[Flexus]

i think Walt is dead......

1) we disappeared quick from Shannon's sight, just like Jack's dad did from his...

2) He was DRIPPIng wet, yet Jack said the hatch was a good half mile inland, so how could Walt run all the half mile and still look dripping wet?

3) he whispered...is it possible everyone who dies on that island whispers?




1) Walt is small and quick on his feet.

2) Walt was sweating profusely after running a good half mile.

3) Sometimes a whisper is just a whisper.

[Lostinlife3]

1) Walt is small and quick on his feet.

2) Walt was sweating profusely after running a good half mile.

3) Sometimes a whisper is just a whisper.


1 and 3 make sense but your going to tell me that him dripping wet with water was sweat? ok....

theres a big difference when someone sweat compared to when someone gets out of water

[murbot]

I think we should reverse all the whispers heard from the "others". I can totally see them incorporating something like this... http://www.reversespeech.com

We tried reversing the whispers from last night, but weren't able to get anything from it. We need get a copy from Saieds first run in with the whispering forest.

[LUKEYP]

Give me the episodes that the whispers appear in and i'll be able to post them up reversed.

[doodleman]

i dont think the whispers say anything reversed, remember when sawyer heard them? without being reversed they said 'it'll come back around' or something.

[alexthegoob]

I swear he's saying "Where's the button? Don't push, it's bad" instead of "Press the button. The button is bad"

[LUKEYP]

He says "Press the Button, No, Button Bad

I'll up the sound clip i took from the episode.

[dcstealth]

I think a big part of the show entails "living thru your subconscious " thoughts.
This also explains why people see more hallucinations when they are tired, and
transcendental meditation is a lower brain function as well, which could be Walt's method to communicate.

[grish2001]

The one with Sayid is "Solitary" episode 9. And for Sawyer I think it's episode 16 "Outlaws" I would love to hear what those voices said!

[LUKEYP]

I've checked the whispers in Solitary and they make no sense what so ever. Not even dicypherable (sp?) english.

[tracee]

I've checked the whispers in Solitary and they make no sense what so ever. Not even dicypherable (sp?) english.
Maybe they spoke Arabic,as Sayeed is Iraqi ;)

[Serendipitous]

^ ^ Exactly! And Walt just disappeared into thin air. Hallucination.



In Jin's flashback, you can clearly see Hurley on the TV, but the writers/producers tried hiding, hoping that maybe a few people might see, but everybody saw it.

Thanks for the clear up! :D Do you happen to remember what episode had Jin's flashback?

[themoth]

Here is a transcript of the whispers from Lost Links - Whispers Text (http://www.lostlinks.net/whispers.htm)

Sayid in the Jungle
From "Solitary"

Man's voice
Just let him get out of here

Man's voice
He's seen too much already

Man's voice
What if he tells

Woman's voice
Could just speak to him

Man's voice
No

Sawyer in the jungle
From "Outlaws"

Woman's voice
Maybe we should just talk to him

Man's voice
No if he see us it will ruin everything

Man's voice
What did he see

Woman's voice
They could help us

Man's voice
Can't trust

Man's voice
Come back around

(Sawyer pauses, crickets and cicada are heard)

Man's voice
What did he see

Man's voice
Nothing he was following it

Woman's voice
Speak

Man's voice
Nothing

Frank Duckett's voice
It'll come back around

[Serendipitous]

The one with Sayid is "Solitary" episode 9. And for Sawyer I think it's episode 16 "Outlaws" I would love to hear what those voices said!

Sorry for the double post but, I could have sworn you could hear Sawyer's whispers? I'm pretty sure I remember this because when it was the scene I got really scared and covered my ears and just read the subtitles lol. :D

Didn't Boone hear whispers before he died? The whispers were sort of related to teh way he died to, something like "everything falls down," that was really off but I don't remember the exact lines. The whisper sort of related to the story he told about his nanny who kept walking up and down the stairs and then one day she just fell (don't remember if she died or just hurt her leg).

[Roanna]

Reverse it with Windows Sound Recorder. If you would like to listen, be my guest:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/p/s/psm5005/walt.wav

now that's just not nice! site can't be found. Booo. :confused:

[stunnedtina]

No Boone didn't hear whispers, that was Locke having a vision (a dream) *teresa falls up the stairs, teresa falls down the stairs.

Yes Sawyer heard whispers, so did Sayid...as far as I know that's the only ones to hear whispers before Shannon did!

[jetembers]

How come no one has said that it's weird that Walt doen't move his lips to whisper.
And is sounds like he is saying "I have ??? ???, look it's there.

[ericcoaster]

I think it was a hallucination. Maybe the numbers cause hallucinations, or represent something that cause hallucinations, like a virus or disease.

[Soxgirl]

on the EW site the writer mentioned that walt's comic book was blurred out in the flashback show before this ep. did anyone notice it? why do you think?

[BillyBob]

I was just wondering if anyone had more thoughts to the significance of the water (or other liquid?). We know everything is put in for a reason, and with something that obvious and eye catching i imagin theres a pretty good one for it.

I cant make my mind up which of the theory's already stated i agree with most but i cant say any of them that link well with the rest of the story in any way (for me personally and my interpretation of the story so far i mean.)

One thing i could suggest however,

If Walt was somehow trying to communicate with shannon through his cognitions there is evidence to support it.
Remeber the last thing walt saw? his father in the water bobing up and down (very wet of course?) i imagin that image is still very strong in his mind, maybe it was incorperated in his attempts to talk to shannon.

just a thought, its bugging me now lol >_< lost has a way of doing that to me at every turn, thank god for tivo.

[ericcoaster]

they probably originally showed it without asking for permission and they got a very angry letter from the comic creator threatening to sue...I don't think it's anything that has to do with the storyline

[easilyjaded]

I don't think it was a hallucination created in Shannon's mind--Walt speaks of things she wouldn't know about (the button, for one). Maybe he was trying to communicate with her but it got mixed up and sent through backwards...I don't know.

[LostPack]

He says "Press the Button, No, Button Bad

I've listened over and over and I hear: press the button, the buttons mishh

This reminds me of when I was young and we found out that it said "I buried Paul" if you played the record backwards - and for some time I was afraid to listen to the Beatles.
I just hear that last part ending in "shhh" not "bad"

[MommaMomma]

To me, it sounds like, "There's the button...____ button's bad" or "Where's the button...___ button's bad".

Am I the only one that hears that? Probably.

[wherearewe?]

ok, i was watching the bonus features on the dvd set and j.j. abrams said that walt has phycic powers.
remember walt warned locke not to open the hatch? locke opened it anyways, then walt was taken.
also, walt new that locke would open it, and vincent and and walt are connected, vincent always leads someone to walt, (like in the episode where the polar bear is attacking him.) so i think that walt new he was going to be taken, so he gave vinvent to shannon, so that way shannon could help and feel needed on the island. as long as vincent belongs to shannon then he would have to lead her to where walt needed someone.


also, i kinda agee with the person whom stated water can represent baptism or change, maybe the others are already trying to change him to there ways OR he tried to escape them and return to his father.


my LOST forum:
http://www.wharearewe.proboards50.com/

[sam2005]

I read a theory a while back that the polar bears and the monster thing were some kind of nanotechnology that could take on other forms. That's a little weird but it seems to fit pretty well. It could also explain Walt as a technological recreation or holograph rather than a hallucination.

[ericcoaster]

I read a theory a while back that the polar bears and the monster thing were some kind of nanotechnology that could take on other forms. That's a little weird but it seems to fit pretty well. It could also explain Walt as a technological recreation or holograph rather than a hallucination.

Lol, lot of theories including stuff from Micheal Crichton, that would be from his book "Prey". And it would explain the weird black flying wispy thing...

[alexthegoob]

I've listened to it like, 50 times now, and he's saying "WHERE'S the button". My Mom listened to it a bunch of times, and she heard "Where's", too.

Also, I did notice that the comic book was blurred. I said something right away...that explaination makes sense.

[BillyBob]

I know its trailing of the point a little here, but im just trying to understnad walt a bit more. This might be nothing but it just bugged me the way it was presented,

Anyone remember near the end of the last episode of season 1, when hurley only just made the flight, as he was entering the plane he looked at walt, and smiled and gave him a thumbs up, then walt smiled back.

The two seem linked in quite a few ways, the comic for example. Just want to know other peoples thoughts on this and/or Walt in general (related to his apearance in this episode if possible :D)

[taurmauk]

I hear "wheres the button" to, man its freaky though. Its possible the whispers are the people from the tail of the plane, and they are around in some other "dimension" or something. Walt has the ability to make what he thinks about appear, the pictures of the birds and a bird appears, and then the polar bear. Instead of projecting himself, maybe he imagined her so she could see him, but because he is now on the other "dimension" he sounds backwards to her.

[sobient]

The fully reversed mp3 can be found for instance here:

http://www.bakkelun.net/filer/walt_inthewoods.mp3

There's 2 things as far as I can hear:

"Press the button, no button's bad" (hold a coin on this one)

or "Press the button, dont let em spare"

Sincerely

[relientmike]

First of all, is Walt really back? Or was Shannon hallucinating? If he is back, where did he go when other people came to he to see what was going on? How do you think he escaped?

Secondly, all I head him say was "Shhhh!" What is this button business about? What button?
Walt was talking backwards. What he said, when reversed, was the following: "Press the button. No button's bad."

[netaK]

my family has 2 theories about that walt thing...

1. its not walt, its some computerd hologram or something, thats why he spoke backwards, some error or something.

2.somehow that is walt, he says "press the button" knowing its good, but then "the others" or something somehow controll him and make him say "NO! button's bad!!!" or soemthing like that :P

[relientmike]

What execute button? The one on the computer in the hatch?

The "execute" button, in my opinion. Walt has been "altered" (dare I say "brainwashed") by the Others. Pressing the "execute" button is somehow beneficial to the Others and detrimental to the crash survivors. Thus, Walt's instruction and subsequent qualification that "no button's bad" is an attempt at deception and manipulation. Why he had to say it backwards, I do not know.

[UConnBigO]

I cant believe how dumb so many of these theories sound, im sorry.

im not trying to be hurtful of other peoples rediculous explanations, I really think it was a hallucination, simply because weve seen hallucinations so many other times, why would it be a hologram, or walt projecting himself

and who said that walt 'killed the bird in his flashback', he was reading about the bird, and he got angry/excited about his guardians fighting and created the bird, and the bird flew into the window and died, he didnt kill it per se. I could see it being that walt tried to contact the people on the island, maybe through vincent, we know he has a connection to vincent, so maybe he lead vincent away so shannon would look, then sayid was there, so he had vincent run off, sayid chaces him, and then shannons alone so he contacted her

and i definitely without a doubt hear walt saying backwards, "press the button, no button's bad", and i dont read into it so much that i think the backwardsness has meaning, the makers of the show know there are tons of people who are gay for lost and know we will dig and dig into the shows audio and video and find this, and be blown away, they are just giving us fun stuff to figure out and draw meanings from, but these meanings people have are rediculous

i think walt is completely safe in the other's hands. they will try to brainwash him, but i do believe he will be back and not evil, or not completely evil, maybe a little of both

[Taylor!]

also when Shannon is hearing the whispers, right before Walt appears, someone whispers "Shannon", atleast it sounded like it; and it didn't sound like Walt's voice.

anyone else hear that?

[jetembers]

yeah, I thought it was Boones voice at first.

[cam]

I think Walt some how happened to project himself (like Prue off "Charmed) but i keep having a feeling that Vincent and Walt have some sort of connection...?

[cam]

I don't think it was a hallucination created in Shannon's mind--Walt speaks of things she wouldn't know about (the button, for one). Maybe he was trying to communicate with her but it got mixed up and sent through backwards...I don't know.
I totally agree that it wasn't Shannon hallucinating

[galligirl]

Am I the only one who thinks this is wowza????? Thank you for posting this!


Here is a transcript of the whispers from Lost Links - Whispers Text (http://www.lostlinks.net/whispers.htm)

Sayid in the Jungle
From "Solitary"

Man's voice
Just let him get out of here

Man's voice
He's seen too much already

Man's voice
What if he tells

Woman's voice
Could just speak to him

Man's voice
No

Sawyer in the jungle
From "Outlaws"

Woman's voice
Maybe we should just talk to him

Man's voice
No if he see us it will ruin everything

Man's voice
What did he see

Woman's voice
They could help us

Man's voice
Can't trust

Man's voice
Come back around

(Sawyer pauses, crickets and cicada are heard)

Man's voice
What did he see

Man's voice
Nothing he was following it

Woman's voice
Speak

Man's voice
Nothing

Frank Duckett's voice
It'll come back around

[thal]

That link didn't work for me but thats wild that someone found it was in reverse you freaking people are lost gods.

[LostPack]

The fully reversed mp3 can be found for instance here:
http://www.bakkelun.net/filer/walt_inthewoods.mp3
There's 2 things as far as I can hear: "Press the button, no button's bad" (hold a coin on this one)or "Press the button, dont let em spare"

Now I clearly hear Press the button... no buttons bad.

[thal]

Right before she turns and looks at Walt I can diffently here Boone whisper Shannon.

[pftsobfreak]

I am more curious on why Walt was drentched in oil. :confused:

[cam]

It's water

[Sternchen]

I hear "Press the button,no(or don't) button is bad"

[Arzt]

When I use my headset, I hear "Don't press the button. The button is bad."

[BOONE182]

that transcript if freaking insane. omg is that spot on?
how weird, is that the others , chick and dude?

[murbot]

When I use my headset, I hear "Don't press the button. The button is bad."

I heard the same thing very clearly. We played a full length copy of it yesterday morning a number of times and we couldn't miss the word "Don't".

[CCRider]

When walt was reading the textbook about birds in the flashback and then the bird crashed into the window, it would seem that walt made the bird appear. His stepdad said that walt is different, when he's around things happen (or something like that).
So wouldn't it stand to reason, that Walt, after reading the comic book with polar bears in it, made one appear. Walt was attacked by the polar bear after his dad burned his comic book. (I think he was reading the comic book in the episode where sawyer shot the bear) Since then I don't think we have seen a polar bear.
So maybe a lot of other things that are going on are from the comic book, and Walt is making it happen. Certainly that's why the others want him.
Interesting that it's Hurley's comic book. He certainly has made things happen after his use of the numbers.

[LUKEYP]

I acknowledged the comic book link as soon as i Sawyer shot the polar bear.

[ShinyThings]

Maybe Walt isn't controlling what happens on the island but because of his starnge 'gift', he's a lot more receptive to what's going on in that place. He might be able to manipulate certain things the same way Locke is conviced that he understands the island.

[thecritta]

I Bet, That Execute Key Is To Activate The Security System.

[ShinyThings]

To be honest, I think that button (or whatever) deactivates something.

[Portal]

Maybe Walt is a genius when he get older and people from the future go back in time to kidnap him to alter the future. Sort of like "Terminator"

[crossing2004]

I'm prone to agree with whomever might think Walt is dead. I don't believe it 100%, but I keep wondering how they're going to explain Walt and Aaron growing older, snce Lost will obviously be around for more seasons given its ratings and popularity.

I also remember reading somehwere that someone asked about what the writers plan to do about Walt aging and they said they were thinking about ways to handle it.....

Not saying he is dead or will die, but if he is, I wouldn't be surprised.

[TLAWMAI]

This just came to me, (and apologies if someone already has said this elsewhere but I tried to search for it) but if Walt said something backwards having been in the custody of the others, then this sort of relates to what I recall in the teaser trailer for season 2 ---- there is a quick shot of a wave seemingly going backwards against a sunset/sunrise. Wave going backwards, Walt talking backwards.... hmmmm... no clue as to what to make of it of course. :) This backwards or reverse thing seems to be a theme with things relating to the "others".

[LUKEYP]

here's another clip of walt's whisper

I've reversed it and decreased the pitch. U can hear it more clearly

Walt's Whisper (http://www.lukeyp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/walt_reverse.mp3)

[murbot]

Here is a transcript of the whispers from Lost Links - Whispers Text (http://www.lostlinks.net/whispers.htm)

Sayid in the Jungle
From "Solitary"

Man's voice
Just let him get out of here

Man's voice
He's seen too much already

Man's voice
What if he tells

Woman's voice
Could just speak to him

Man's voice
No

Sawyer in the jungle
From "Outlaws"

Woman's voice
Maybe we should just talk to him

Man's voice
No if he see us it will ruin everything

Man's voice
What did he see

Woman's voice
They could help us

Man's voice
Can't trust

Man's voice
Come back around

(Sawyer pauses, crickets and cicada are heard)

Man's voice
What did he see

Man's voice
Nothing he was following it

Woman's voice
Speak

Man's voice
Nothing

Frank Duckett's voice
It'll come back around


Who's Frank Duckett??

[Mahub]

here's another clip of walt's whisper

I've reversed it and decreased the pitch. U can hear it more clearly

Walt's Whisper (http://www.lukeyp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/walt_reverse.mp3)

Could you make a clip with a few seconds before the one you have here? I am wondering if he in fact isnt saying:

"Dont press the button. The button is bad."

But this clips starts just on "press.."

[soumya86]

I personally think it means DONT PRESS THE BUTTON because if he his talking about the EXECUTE button when why would he tell Locke not to go open the hatch? It doesn't make sense if he says press the button because he specifically told Locke ''don't open it''

[soumya86]

Who's Frank Duckett??

The man sawyer killed (prawn seller guy)

[murbot]

The man sawyer killed (prawn seller guy)

Oh yeah...
Thanks!!

Where is this quote from? Sounds familiar.
"All of us have a secret.One of us is a hero. One of us is a fraud. One of us is a junkie. One of us is a cop. One of us is a saint. One of us is a sinner. One of us is a martyr. One of us is a murderer. All of us are guilty... All of us are LOST."

[soumya86]

Oh yeah...
Thanks!!

Where is this quote from? Sounds familiar.
"All of us have a secret.One of us is a hero. One of us is a fraud. One of us is a junkie. One of us is a cop. One of us is a saint. One of us is a sinner. One of us is a martyr. One of us is a murderer. All of us are guilty... All of us are LOST."

it's from the first british advertisements for lost hun :)

[bibwis tolstarx]

You do realize that they have us arguing nonsensically just like they did over the whole "we're the survivors" "there were no survivors" of flight 815 thing, right? Keep that in mind so this doesn't become a feeding frenzy.

CCRider--I don't think Walt made the polar bear appear (he might have) since Danielle knew about the bears. I think Walt made the bear appear right there and then--not materializing a bear, more like summoning it.

[freizeit]

Walt is dominated or remoted by 'others' when he met shannon,

he said 'shh....' first, implies someone is hearing them, and the reason why the sentence was said backward is Walt didn't want 'others' find out what he told shannon...

Walt was telling shannon a big secret about the island.

[murbot]

it's from the first british advertisements for lost hun :)

Thanks again!
That makes me wonder who the martyr is (will be?). Doesn't one have to die for a cause (or to save others [still for a cause]) in order to be a martyr?

They're all guilty! :eek:

[Lostinlife3]

boone was the martyr....unless you didn't know that.....lol

anyway i thought we were talkin bout walt lol!

[SappySwami]

Just my little theory to throw into the mix: Perhaps Walt was talking backwards because he has left the island (and is talking to Shannon through astral projection, telepathy, voodoo, whatever.) and the island moves backwards in time. Or Maybe the Others do. Something like that, I just think that idea would be interesting. Much like Cronos in Piers Anthony's Bearing An Hourglass.

[murbot]

boone was the martyr....unless you didn't know that.....lol

anyway i thought we were talkin bout walt lol!


I thought about that, but what cause did he really die for. Was anything gained from his death? Other then Shannon eventually growing up and facing reality.

...My mistake, this should be about Walt...sorry.

[murbot]

Just my little theory to throw into the mix: Perhaps Walt was talking backwards because he has left the island (and is talking to Shannon through astral projection, telepathy, voodoo, whatever.) and the island moves backwards in time. Or Maybe the Others do. Something like that, I just think that idea would be interesting. Much like Cronos in Piers Anthony's Bearing An Hourglass.


Didn't Walt say "Shhhh" before he spoke backwards. "Shhhh" sounds the same forward or backward. So if he were projected in such manner, he would have said "Shhhh" after he spoke backward. If someone shhhh's someone else, the usually do the shhhhing first. :)

[Backlash]

I want to bring up another angle on this scene.

You've been talking about what we heard Walt say. What about what we see him say?

Any lip-readers out there? My guess is he's saying "I don't wanna die ... Shannon."

[soumya86]

the boy has really big lips i found it hard to lip read.

[tracee]

My daughter thought he was saying "I don't know" followed by mumble-mumble-mumble by lip reading. I got the "I don't".
Granted neither of us has any training in lip reading, so it's just a guess.

[jetembers]

the boy has really big lips i found it hard to lip read.
his lips didn't move

[only1godd]

So here's my low down on the whole what he said:
My mom says it sounds like Press the button, they'll put us back. I agree with grhawi on the thread with Press the button, no button's bad.

The "execute" button, in my opinion. Walt has been "altered" (dare I say "brainwashed") by the Others. Pressing the "execute" button is somehow beneficial to the Others and detrimental to the crash survivors. Thus, Walt's instruction and subsequent qualification that "no button's bad" is an attempt at deception and manipulation. Why he had to say it backwards, I do not know.

I think that with Walt not wanting the hatch to be opened, knowing that it was going to be opened, and then wanting to get off the island because of it being opened, indicates that the Others have control of Walt or Walt's image.
I think Locke said not to press the "execute" button a.) because he had a gun pointed to his head, and b.) because he doesn't want to get off the island because he doesn't feel as if he has completed his destiny.

[lol157]

Reading his lips with the sound off it looks like he says something like...
" I don't wanna go, but I should" or something to that effect..

[Delia_35]

Hey all,
I took the Walk.mp3 file and slowed it a bit and to me it sounds like he is saying "Press the button. No, the button's bad." Like, the first part is tempting her to push it, but the second part is a worrying not too... Anyway, I've uploaded mine onto my server.
Walt_slowed.mp3 (http://www.scarlettsweb.net/walt_slowed.mp3)

[Backlash]

I took the audio of Walt's whispers, put it through noise removal, compression, EQ, etc., and after listening to it hundreds of times, I've come to a definite conclusion as to just what he's whispering.

"Where's the mutt? No one's bad."

Case closed.

[Lostinlife3]

I took the audio of Walt's whispers, put it through noise removal, compression, EQ, etc., and after listening to it hundreds of times, I've come to a definite conclusion as to just what he's whispering.

"Where's the mutt? No one's bad."

Case closed.

o.O.o

okay...........

EDIT: I just thought of something......when Sayid followed Shannon into the jungle when she went off to look for Vincent.....where did he go? he just disappeared..

[galligirl]

I took the audio of Walt's whispers, put it through noise removal, compression, EQ, etc., and after listening to it hundreds of times, I've come to a definite conclusion as to just what he's whispering.

"Where's the mutt? No one's bad."

Case closed.

Can you post your findings? We can't close the case until we hear it! :D

[lostaholic16]

To the "where's the mutt?" theroy - umm...no. I just don't think so. The button thing fits better.

[ericcoaster]

uh huh. all those filters must have altered it. the button theory is much more plausable.

[muck22]

So here's my low down on the whole what he said:
My mom says it sounds like Press the button, they'll put us back.



I could almost here that. I think that would be an interesting answer. I totally don't hear the last word as bad. To me I think it sounds like "press the button, the button's mad" or "press the button, the buttons baaa." But those don't really make any sense so I'm at a loss. It's totally creepy though.

One thing I thought of was that maybe the whole message got chopped off, and he actually wanted to say "Tell Jack not to press the button, the button's bad" or something to that effect. It was just easier for him to send a message to Shannon because they have a closer relationship.
This then reminded me of when Boone died and he said "Tell Shannon...":thud:
That line has been driving me crazy forever because if just wanted to tell her he loved her or something, I think the writers wouldn't have cut him off like that. So I guess where I'm going with this is that maybe there is something important for Shannon to know about the island, and the survivors figure it out right before they die...assuming Walt is dead or near death. If anyone saw "Signs" you might get what I mean by that.
Anyway, I'll quit rambling now. :blahblah:

[ericcoaster]

When I listened to it backward, and slowed down, I heard "Press the button, no button's bad". But, I think the bigger question is why what he's saying is backwards and his lips aren't moving...

[CooToo]

When I listened to it backward, and slowed down, I heard "Press the button, no button's bad". But, I think the bigger question is why what he's saying is backwards and his lips aren't moving...

But his lips WERE moving... :confused:

[ericcoaster]

I just watched it and they are moving, people said they weren't though, grr. Anywho, on CC it said [whispering indistictivly]. And what he was saying was not matched with his lips. So, I guess I meant to say why the heck is he speaking backwards?? lol

[MommaMomma]

His lips were moving slightly, but to me it seemed like he was trying to talk without making them move, yanno? Like you do when you don't want anyone to read your lips/know what you're saying. :)

[ellebasi]

hi, i'm knew and didn't know where to post this, but i thought since this is a "what did he say" thread, i could ask here:
i've been having lots of trouble understanding people in this episode ( i blame the quality of my download, but of course it's my english :s )
so i'd be really happy if someone could help me out.. what is kate saying after jack held his little speech? something like..."it was good that you said this" "give them something to hold on"... and then? and what's that with locke breaking his neck and dying alone?
please help!

also, did you notice the time of death (SUV driver) was anounced at 8:15? you can hear it in the background in jack's first flashback, when he pulls that peice of metal out of sarah..another 815-number

[Noetic]

and what's that with locke breaking his neck and dying alone?
Locke? When does this happen? Isn't this the driver of the vehicle in the accident where Jack's patient/wife is injured? (I think he has the same last name as Sharon)

Btw I am originally from Switzerland, too :)

[ellebasi]

hey Noetic,nice to hear you're from switzerland too! :)

that neck-breaking thing is something kate said in that scene, "i'm going to the hatch", "What if he falls down, breaks his neck..wouldn't want to let him die alone".. then jack looks really disturbed but says "right" and kate leaves..

[LA2SA]

maybe Walt was just singing his favorite Madonna song.... "push the button, don't push the button... trip the station change the channel"

j/k ;)

[ericcoaster]

lol! i thought that saying sounded familiar...i wonder if they're just playing with our minds?

[Noetic]

that neck-breaking thing is something kate said in that scene, "i'm going to the hatch", "What if he falls down, breaks his neck..wouldn't want to let him die alone".. then jack looks really disturbed but says "right" and kate leaves..
Oh I see - I think the reason why he looks disturbed is perhaps because he realises that Kate is right? Or perhaps because he is reminded that she might care less about him & his feelings than he cares about her.

[madaboutlost]

i think 100% that walt says "where is the button, the button is bad" i keep listening over and over and im convinced

[SeraphimKiss]

I think that Walt was saying either "Don't press the button, the button is bad" or "Don't press the button, Locke must be spared." The second would make sense because Desmond threatened to shoot Locke.

Also, maybe the "Walt" that Shannon saw was some sort of projection. That would explain why Walt was talking backwards--the projection was playing backwards. This led me to the question, how is it that Shannon happened to come to that part of the jungle the same moment that the projection began to play there?

It seems that Walt has some weird power over animals, so maybe he got Vincent to run to a certain place, knowing that when Shannon went looking for him, she would go to the place where the projection would play.

One more thing... Walt appeared to be rushing, maybe so that the Others wouldn't see him sending this secret warning to Shannon. Someone else said that he appeared to be trying not to move his mouth, like someone does when they don't want other people to read their lips. That would make sense.

[1lostlover]

[QUOTE=AmyMac]ok, I have an idea here, just follow me for a minute. Now we all know one simple truth, Walt is special and has special powers. It is widely theorized that he made up the polar bear if not in the pilot, than at least he made it come to life in his episode for the purpose of his father paying attention to him or something.

There is a thing that one can do through meditation, astral projection, that allows the person to project their spirit out of their body to see other things. My theory is this, what if Walt was doing this in an attempt to communicate with Shannon. We know he already feels a connection to her, he gave her the dog. He's scared of Locke because of the hatch thing, so it makes sense he would go to her. Now, what if this is a reaction on his part to being so scared and he subconsciously astral projects himself? He's a child so I don't imagine he would be very practiced at it. And what if the message that he is trying to send her is garbled because of that? It would also explain why the image wasn't there for very long, he's not good at it yet. That or something happened that made the image cut itself off.



I'll buy that theory, it makes sense to me. :o

[kkina]

Has anyone else noticed that there are at least 2 reversed recordings of Michael's "astral" speech, and that they are DIFFERENT? Did someone make a bad recording, or just messin' with us? Here they are, with what they sort of sound like to me (not sure, obviously):

"Press the button; no button's fish" (http://www.foxmod.com/lost/Walt.mp3)

"Press the button; no button's bad" (http://www.bakkelun.net/filer/walt_inthewoods.mp3)

[MommaMomma]

And also, why was Vincent just sitting there in the middle of the jungle. It's like he was waiting for something. Or someone.

I kind of wonder if it isn't Vincent who has the 'powers', not Walt. ???

[JimmyLOSTJet]

I think Walt has more control than people think. There is an episode, can't remember which where Walt is sad and it is pouring with rain, someone makes him happy and the rain instantly stops.

It might be the other way around as in he is happy and gets sad so it starts to rain. If someone can remind me as to the reason it would be great.

If I remember correctly it has to do with Michael looking for Vincent

[MommaMomma]

I think Walt has more control than people think. There is an episode, can't remember which where Walt is sad and it is pouring with rain, someone makes him happy and the rain instantly stops.

It might be the other way around as in he is happy and gets sad so it starts to rain. If someone can remind me as to the reason it would be great.

If I remember correctly it has to do with Michael looking for Vincent

Yes, Walt wants to go look for Vincent and Michael says, "We will, as soon as it stops raining". At that instant, it stops raining. :)

[July20too]

OK I did not see this on another thread, but when Shannon heard the whispers in the woods, right before she saw Walt, the last voice was Boone's. It gave me goosebumps, I did not catch it unitl the second time I watched.

[upandatthem]

i think 100% that walt says "where is the button, the button is bad" i keep listening over and over and im convinced

i agree. he definitely says "where" not "press"

[shred]

Has anyone else noticed that there are at least 2 reversed recordings of Michael's "astral" speech, and that they are DIFFERENT?

Has anyone recorded Walt's speech NOT reversed?

[Vegeta]

And also, why was Vincent just sitting there in the middle of the jungle. It's like he was waiting for something. Or someone.

I kind of wonder if it isn't Vincent who has the 'powers', not Walt. ???

I've stated this before on another thread, watch the pilot episode again, when Kate, Jack & Charlie are hiking to the cockpit we see them being watched from the bushes. As the camera pans out we see that they are being watched by Vincent, the next shot is of Locke sitting on the beach, staring out to sea, then back to Vincent watching our adventurers walking off. This scene has always stuck inmy head is it seemed to serve no purpose. Sure, the dog is watching them, big deal. Right? So why the 5 second shot of Locke interwined with the voyueristic Vincent?

I think Vincent could be more than a mere pooch.

[Firebreak]

Thanks to those who have posted sound clips for us, wondering if anyone can post a non-reversed version? I think there were a couple in the beginning of the thread, but those links do not work anymore.

Fire

EDIT: After listening to the reversed version, I am hearing very clearly "Where's the button.. the button's bad"

[kudzu_kid]

Reverse it with Windows Sound Recorder. If you would like to listen, be my guest:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/p/s/psm5005/walt.wav

This link no longer works. Does anyone have this saved some where or another link that still works?

[kudzu_kid]

I guess if I took the time to look through the entire thread I would be better off... ;)

[Firebreak]

I've actually already searched the whole thread. Any posts of the wav file playing forwards are now dead links

[kudzu_kid]

I've actually already searched the whole thread. Any posts of the wav file playing forwards are now dead links

http://www.bakkelun.net/filer/walt_inthewoods.mp3

Thanks to kkina


Sorry this one is backward... Didn't read your post clearly I guess....

[kudzu_kid]

I've actually already searched the whole thread. Any posts of the wav file playing forwards are now dead links

Another bad post on my part... Sorry dude...

[madaboutlost]

im still very sure he saying "WHERE" is the button, the button is bad"

[Firebreak]

Anyone have a copy of the sound file not reversed? The only links in this thread that work are reverse playing MP3s. I don't know how to reverse an MP3.

Fire

[Lostinlife3]

there might be on on Lost-Medias Sound File....not sure though

I still vote it Said Don't Press the Button, The Buttons Bad...it makes more sense casue Jack was about to press the button when Locke said i wouldn't do that.

[LUKEYP]

We're not sure if the execute button is the button Walt is referring to

[memphis_1220]

I have a present for you people;

A link I found on google.
http://www.mostlymuppet.com/archives/2005/09/22/what-did-walt-say/

This includes sound files of forwards, backwards, forwards + backwards, and the whispers beforehand.

On that site, there are two more lines suggested:

"Press the button, Locke wasn't scared"
"Press the button, Locke must be spared"

I think it is the first one myself.

Memph

[L0ST_ADDICT]

It sounded like either "press the button, locke wants the same" OR
" press the button, locke must be saved".

[BiggestLostfan]

I listened to the whispers i couldnt make out what they said but the last word was definatly "shannon"

[Bhkorn99]

I think walt said either "press the button, no button is bad' or he said "don't press the button the button is bad". You can make up your own minds through this link http://www.foxmod.com/lost/Walt.mp3

[faith1998]

I have listened to this about a million times and have a different idea everytime. But the one I keep going back to is "Don't press the button, the button is bad." But I have no clue....

[Leper]

Get someone who's good at reading lips to see if they can figure it out....

[angry ladybug]

After listening to the Walt clips eight or nine times in a row, what I hear is "Press the button, Locke lost his hair" lol. So that leads me to go with "Press the button, Locke must be spared" as that sounds the most similar to what my demented brain came up with ;)

[LA2SA]

so, did the voice say "we're the survivors of flight 815" or "there were no..."?

oh, sorry, wrong thread

[AModernMyth]

I actually played it backwards earlier today also, before I found this and me & my friends heard it as "Don't press the button. The button is bad." Instead of how yall heard it as "no" I heard it as "the", which would make more sense. Just getting that out there, like a couple others.

[Delia_35]

My sister had a thought, maybe he is saying "Press the button. KNOW the buttons bad". Know instead of No.

[benos]

Press the button. No button's bad."

"Press button, no the button is'nt bad"

So maybe the button is'nt bad. i guess Locke should of
pressed, but i don't know. if he did, it'll surely make up a chain of events. :confused: More untrustworthy locke and jack rivarly. But they did say there are bad things and a good things in the hatch. one is desmond? and the other one is the button.

[celia]

I hear: "Press the button. Don't, the button is bad" As if something was wanting him to tell her to press the button, but he was fighting back, if you know what I mean.

[madaboutlost]

i now here "WHERE is the button, locke wasnt scared"

[in_ferior]

has anyone else tried playing the forwards and backwards audio back to back? it sounds like "[jibberish]... no one has ever pressed the button ...[more jibberish]"

[Roanna]

This just came to me, (and apologies if someone already has said this elsewhere but I tried to search for it) but if Walt said something backwards having been in the custody of the others, then this sort of relates to what I recall in the teaser trailer for season 2 ---- there is a quick shot of a wave seemingly going backwards against a sunset/sunrise. Wave going backwards, Walt talking backwards.... hmmmm... no clue as to what to make of it of course. :) This backwards or reverse thing seems to be a theme with things relating to the "others".

thank you for saying that -- I saw that wave going backward too! good theory

[MommaMomma]

What I hear now is, "Where's the button, don't button's bad shhh".

[madaboutlost]

i did here the shhh at the end but it didnt think it was walt tht said it, i dunno really, maybe it was the voices or someone else?

[Aron]

I hear: "Press the button. Don't, the button is bad" As if something was wanting him to tell her to press the button, but he was fighting back, if you know what I mean.

Smeagol rip ;) Had to say it.

[JayCee]

thank you for saying that -- I saw that wave going backward too! good theory

I wouldn't put too much thought into the video clip of the waves running in reverse. You see this frequently from shots filmed along the shore, as during production the shot is filmed zooming in (or zooming out), and in editing the director decides to play it the other direction.

Not discounting the idea that time is playing tricks on the island, as this thought has popped up from a couple of people. I just wouldn't put too much weight on this one item :D

[Roanna]

I wouldn't put too much thought into the video clip of the waves running in reverse. You see this frequently from shots filmed along the shore, as during production the shot is filmed zooming in (or zooming out), and in editing the director decides to play it the other direction.

Not discounting the idea that time is playing tricks on the island, as this thought has popped up from a couple of people. I just wouldn't put too much weight on this one item :D

BUT, remember J.J. Abrams et al saying that EVERYTHING has meaning? One of the weird things about the smoke is that it comes out then seems to go backward into itself ....

[1966]

ok a few things here.
1) hallucination per jack and his dad: he sees his dad wearing white tennis shoes just like the one hanging from the tree in the first few moments of the pilot. and the casket is empty. hallucination/coincidence?
2) the whispers: they've all had something to do with the person's past. eg: sayid's in arabic, sawyer's "it'll come back around" said by guy he killed, shannon's "tell shannon . . . " said by boone right before he died.
3) backwards others theory: the wave in the promo is rolling backwards, claire in her nightmare is running backwards, walt is speaking backwards

[Roanna]

ok a few things here.
2) the whispers: they've all had something to do with the person's past. eg: sayid's in arabic, sawyer's "it'll come back around" said by guy he killed, shannon's "tell shannon . . . " said by boone right before he died.
3) backwards others theory: the wave in the promo is rolling backwards, claire in her nightmare is running backwards, walt is speaking backwards

Sayid's whispers were in Arabic? [do Iraquis speak Arabic?] not being snotty, just curious.

Claire's nightmare when she was still pregnant? I just watched that episode yesterday, and didn't pick up on that!

this is so much fun, isn't it?

two more days ....

[MommaMomma]

Sayid's whispers were in Arabic? [do Iraquis speak Arabic?] not being snotty, just curious.


The official language of Iraq is Arabic. :)

[Roanna]

Learn something new every day! thanks

Roanna

[foxman2005]

Thats what he says, no argument about it. the part where he says "the" button is bad, that also sounds like "don't". But if the whole sample is reversed, he clearly says "press the button, the button's bad"....end of.

Anyone think about the mad guy that the numbers came from? he was mad, the island seems to make people mad?

[ericcoaster]

I clearly hear a "no" instead of "the". Why would he contradict himself?

[Delia_35]

I clearly hear a "no" instead of "the". Why would he contradict himself?

You hear "no" where? Maybe its "know". Does that fit better?

[honestjoe]

i slowed down what Walt says to half the original speed. Its sounds to me like "press the button" pause, "the button is bad".

take a listen and see what you think.

it's a zip file and i hope it works (got fingers crossed) cuz i'm not that experienced at zipping and attaching files. If it DOESNT, then please forgive me and ignore this post.

:p

[honestjoe]

here it is at a quarter speed:

[Delia_35]

Yeah, I've posted my slowed mp3 a few places and that's what I hear too, but I hear a "no" in there. "Press the button. No (or know) the button's bad"

btw, better to edit your first message rather than make a double post.

[memphis_1220]

A little tip for everyone. Look at the other quotes on here and check the sound files again and specifically listen for each one of those a few times each, and see which one is best. Because you will listen to the clip the first time, hear something and then relisten, trying to pick out more evidence of what you just heard. Have and open mind, as Locke would say :)

[pftsobfreak]

I still think he says, "Press the button. No button's bad."

honestjoe, don't double post. Please edit.

[Thurisaz]

Did anyone think about this:
To say "I am sick" the painter draw an eye. Maybe this is to specify the sickness as something that affects either the eyes or makes you see / believe things that are not there. Shannon seeing and hearing Walt - who was probably not there.

[CCRider]

remember almost all of the episodes begin with a zoom out from one of the characters eyes. Last episode was Desmond's eye

[Listen to Lenny]

Did anyone think about this:
To say "I am sick" the painter draw an eye. Maybe this is to specify the sickness as something that affects either the eyes or makes you see / believe things that are not there. Shannon seeing and hearing Walt - who was probably not there.

Excellent thought. Ties in well with some of the show's themes. THEMES are important. Sometimes folks seem to be going down (white) rabbit trails, but this show is full of themes that you can follow from beginning to end. EYES are definitely a theme. Good stuff.

[Listen to Lenny]

Listened, listened and listened again. I don't pretend to make sense of Walt's apparent contradiction, but I only know what I think I have heard.

"Press the button. The button's bad."

I think some have resisted this answer because it is difficult to explain. I know I can't explain why Walt would instruct a fellow survivor to press a "bad button", but I nonetheless believe that is what I am hearing him say. So, for those who dismiss this by responding "Why would he say that?" I would challenge you to consider that just because we can't understand why does not mean that is not what he said.

I love the part in The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe when the Professor is talking to the children about the idea of another world inside the wardrobe. The children are understandably disbelieving because they can't explain something so mysterious. The Professor walks them through the evidence, namely, does Lucy lie? In the end, this learned man suggests that while the reality of another world in a wardrobe SEEMS unthinkable, if the evidence suggests that it is there, it may very well be there.

Forget the question of "Why" Walt has said whatever he has said for the moment SO THAT you can ask yourself the more pertinent first question: "WHAT did he say?" To that end, I believe I am HEARING, "Press the button. The button's bad."

From a linguistics point of view: As far as whether one of the key words in quote is "The" or "No", in a whisper a lazy "Th" can sound pretty close to an "N". In fact, it would sound like a soft "D", coming out more like "Da button's bad" (Da Bears...interesting...). Walt speaks a little lazily (which is only to say that like most people he does not make a great effort to annunciate). It could be either, but I am hearing "The" (or more accurately, "Da").

[madaboutlost]

well i keep listening to it and ive came to final conclusion, i think he says "press the button, dont the buttons bad" and yes it is confusing and makes no sence, but what if he is meaning it as a question type thing - "press the button? dont the buttons bad" if tht makes sence to u guys and gals!

[ericcoaster]

I did a poll a while ago, and the majority thought what he said included a "no" in it... http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=14646

[I'mLOST]

Someone needs to figure out what the key sequence was that Desmond did on the keyboard at the beginning of the episode. I know there is someone out there that can figure it out!!

[ericcoaster]

it was the numbers

[*~*CelticBreeze*~*]

I was just watching Jimmy Kimmel and Malcolm David Kelley was on there. He confirmed that what Walt was saying was "Don't push that button" and it was also recorded in reverse, which I beleive someone mentioned before. He wouldn't say what "that button" is though, he said we'd have to watch and find out.

[in_ferior]

I was just watching Jimmy Kimmel and Malcolm David Kelley was on there. He confirmed that what he was saying was "Don't push that button" and it was also recorded in reverse, which I beleive someone mentioned before. He wouldn't say what "that button" is though, he said we'd have to watch and find out.
lol, great post. you were quick, beat me to it. i just saw the same thing.

[*~*CelticBreeze*~*]

Hehehe, I ran to my room as soon as I saw it. Thankfully I was already online and logged into the forum, so I was able to get here pretty quick. I figured someone would have already beat me. I was suprised that they didn't.

[Listen to Lenny]

I was just watching Jimmy Kimmel and Malcolm David Kelley was on there. He confirmed that what Walt was saying was "Don't push that button" and it was also recorded in reverse, which I beleive someone mentioned before. He wouldn't say what "that button" is though, he said we'd have to watch and find out.

Well, that clears it up then. The "Don't" I assume is at the very beginning, thus saying "Don't press the button. The button's bad." I wondered if that wasn't the case, but couldn't hear the "Don't" as it was nearly inaudible. More like a pause before the words "press the button." Well, know that we know what, we can further entertain the why.

[Lost_Kitty]

I just think that walk does have some special powers and I think it's more of a connection with vincent than Shannon he was going to show himself to vincent but the best way to do that was via shannon. Maybe vincent had already seen him when shannon came along.

[mizso676]

HI!

Check this: It's slower a bit (http://mizso.uw.hu/lost.mp3)

I think it's: "Pressed, but no buttons...bad? Maybe...

[*~*CelticBreeze*~*]

I was just watching Jimmy Kimmel and Malcolm David Kelley was on there. He confirmed that what Walt was saying was "Don't push that button" and it was also recorded in reverse...

Dude, if you had been reading this thread you would have seen that I already posted this. We already know what Walt said because the kid who plays Walt told us on Jimmy Kimmel last night.

[Listen to Lenny]

Dude, if you had been reading this thread you would have seen that I already posted this. We already know what Walt said because the kid who plays Walt told us on Jimmy Kimmel last night.

And yet some STILL would like to argue about WHAT was said!

LOL

[mizso676]

Oops! :d :d :d

[murbot]

I was just watching Jimmy Kimmel and Malcolm David Kelley was on there. He confirmed that what Walt was saying was "Don't push that button" and it was also recorded in reverse, which I beleive someone mentioned before. He wouldn't say what "that button" is though, he said we'd have to watch and find out.


Told ya'll so, nah nah nah nah. :)