Shannon's DAD!!!

[Kater]

Did anyone post this yet?

The guy that died in the ER next to Sarah! The EMT said his name was Adam Rutherford (sp?) and that he was 57! OMG, totally Shannon's dad!

[Count2Five]

No, I didn't catch that- wow!

[relientmike]

I caught it. I think all the survivors crossed paths before the crash. Who else thinks that?

Did anyone post this yet?

The guy that died in the ER next to Sarah! The EMT said his name was Adam Rutherford (sp?) and that he was 57! OMG, totally Shannon's dad!

[LOSTMAN]

Everyone seems to have a connection. Which is unlikely for most planes going from Austrailia to the US or any plane for that matter. They were from all around the country or world. And all of their flashbacks seem to tie in together quite a bit. They are there on the insland for the same reason. How and why? The jury is still out...........

[Count2Five]

Everyone seems to have a connection. Which is unlikely for most planes going from Austrailia to the US or any plane for that matter. They were from all around the country or world. And all of their flashbacks seem to tie in together quite a bit. They are there on the insland for the same reason. How and why? The jury is still out...........

I totally agree with you there. EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON!

[rstynls]

Thanks for the confirmation, thought that's what I heard, freaky.

[Eksynyt]

Yep, I immediately thought Shannon's dad as well.

[La Mer]

Wow you guys are very observant. I wouldn't have caught that. Thanks for pointing it out, I love that the characters have all these connections.

[noShame]

Yep, I do believe that they are all connected, before the crash. jacks dad and sawyer, shannon and sayid on the airport (when he asked if she could watch his bag), etc.

[peanut_butter_kisses04]

Surprisingly, I noticed the 'Rutherford' thing before my mom and sister. These things usually just go over my head.

[mysterious]

wow!!! that just totally got past me! Thank you for noticing !!!!!

[Pokemon Kid]

Didn't it say:

"Adam Rutherford, something...something...8 15?"

[Pink Pinker]

Yep, I made a thread on this, but that's okay ;)

Pokemon Kid, they said the time of death was 8:15

[noShame]

Watched the ep once again, noticed that the time of dead of the man (rutherford, shannons dad) was 8.15! Once again the numbers come back.

EDIT: geahh, I was to late :(

EDIT2: If you look closelly on the digital watch on the doctors arm, it shows 11.14. Guess they thought you wouldnt see it ;)

[bapenguin]

Watched the ep once again, noticed that the time of dead of the man (rutherford, shannons dad) was 8.15! Once again the numbers come back.

EDIT: geahh, I was to late :(

Not so sure it was her dad. If you put it into time perspective Shannon and Boone's parents married when Shannon was 9. She's 20 now, so that would mean that segment took place sometime after they got married, so at most, 10 years ago. It really all depends on when Desmond got in the bunker.

[Kim]

Wow! I totally missed that.

[*Pauly*]

wow good spot I was totally focussed on Jack..hes so gorgeous etc.. just kidding. I'll have to play that again to hear it o.o

[Razor]

Not so sure it was her dad. If you put it into time perspective Shannon and Boone's parents married when Shannon was 9. She's 20 now, so that would mean that segment took place sometime after they got married, so at most, 10 years ago. It really all depends on when Desmond got in the bunker.

That was what I was thinking as well ... but from a different perspective. Perhaps, if it was Shannon's father, it's proof that Desmond can leave/return to both the complex/biodome as well as the island.

[Nozoki]

Not so sure it was her dad. If you put it into time perspective Shannon and Boone's parents married when Shannon was 9. She's 20 now, so that would mean that segment took place sometime after they got married, so at most, 10 years ago. It really all depends on when Desmond got in the bunker.

When did Jack marry Sara? What's the timeline between when he first met her in the ER and his being on the flight. I don't think Desmond has been in there for more than 8 years.

[buffyfan145]

I noticed that too last night!!! So now Jack and Shannon have a connection. Also, I don't think Jack's flashbacks were that long ago. The flashback took place 4 years before Jack and Sarah got married. Sarah metioned in "Do No Harm" that she was fixed by Jack 4 years ago. Plus, Jack's not that old, I think he's only about mid 30's. And I think in "Hearts and Minds" in Boone's flashback Boone and Shannon were talking about when her dad died and the money went to Boone's mom. From the way they were talking, it seemed like it was only a couple years before Shannon went to Australia. So, I'm thinking that the flashback was about 8 years ago, but I could be wrong.

[tommerp]

BINGO!!! ( Good use of math....... )

[Chimo]

After I noticed that Rutherford was the last name of the SUV driver in the ER, I thought about Shannon, I double checked the lost home page and found out I was correct. Ialso noticed that Kate, who's story line is still mysteries, is the only character listed without a last name. It might not be anything important but it may connect her to another cast away's story.

[polyphenus]

I noticed it last night and pieced together the sort of connection that Jack and Shannon now have.

This can also be placed in a "things on/before/leading-up-to the island happening because of a choice/decision" category that I've been mulling over as I watched Season 1 on DVD. In this instance, Sarah made a choice to go out looking for wedding stuff, as her former fiance says. In doing so, she unconsciously sets into motion a chain of events. 1) She brings she and Jack together in the E.R. and ultimately in marriage. 2) Her accident causes the death of who appears to be Shannon's father. This will ultimately bring Boone and Shannon together in Australia (and even more ultimately on the island) in "Hearts and Minds." 3) It also creates a Boone/Shannon/Jack/Sarah parallel in which both men are drawn to their respective women in a romantic way (and takes both women away from a disagreeable man in the process).

These are just preliminary ideas that come to me as I reflect on last night's episode. Maybe more theories will develop as I rewatch the season premiere.

[GodrockDJ]

Great catches everyone!

[Heather]

I didn't catch that at all, great catches!!!!

[RecklessAbandon]

Sarah metioned in "Do No Harm" that she was fixed by Jack 4 years ago.

Actually, she said "A little over two years ago" so things are sooner than we thought.

[Razor]

Actually, she said "A little over two years ago" so things are sooner than we thought.

Yes, but how long ago was the scene with Sarah in Do No Harm? "A little over two years ago" only tells how much time transpired between the accident and the wedding rehearsal.:confused: ;)

[Marystat]

I totally missed the part with Shannon's dad too..great catch!! See this is why this show has to be viewed OVER AND OVER..cos there are clues everywhere but with so much happening, and the intense story it has to be viewed over and over...I am impressed by the season opener! Totally impressed :D

[tommerp]

AND, was it Jack's wedding rehersal or was he an invited guest because he "healed" Sarah?

[noShame]

but then the whole thing is miscounted by two years :P. If you thought it was 8 years since the flashback, when you thought she said 4 years. Then it must be 6 years since the flashback now that we know she said 2 years since jack fixed her!

[tommerp]

8 4 6 2 - I Got Bingo!!!!!!

[buffyfan145]

Yeah, it could be 6 years, but we still don't know how long Jack and Sarah were married for.

[Razor]

but then the whole thing is miscounted by two years :P. If you thought it was 8 years since the flashback, when you thought she said 4 years. Then it must be 6 years since the flashback now that we know she said 2 years since jack fixed her!
Huh?:confused: I'm sorry, you lost me there.

If we're trying to establish how long ago Jack & Desmond met, it's between a little over two years (assuming a next day divorce/death between Sarah & Jack) and up to 11 years if it's Shannon's father: given that she is 20 now, and was 9 when Boone & her parents married - once again assuming the SUV crash happened immediately after the wedding. I'm hoping I overlooked something and someone can narrow down this gap!

[JesSickUh]

Hearing his name spoken out loud was the first "OMGWTF" moment of the episode that I had that made me jump off my couch. Wonder when he'll make the connection.

[mari4815]

Also, the steroids that Desmond was injecting said "Rutherford" on them. I guess that means he was maybe a doctor?

[redemption]

I noticed that too last night!!! So now Jack and Shannon have a connection. Also, I don't think Jack's flashbacks were that long ago. The flashback took place 4 years before Jack and Sarah got married. Sarah metioned in "Do No Harm" that she was fixed by Jack 4 years ago. Plus, Jack's not that old, I think he's only about mid 30's. And I think in "Hearts and Minds" in Boone's flashback Boone and Shannon were talking about when her dad died and the money went to Boone's mom. From the way they were talking, it seemed like it was only a couple years before Shannon went to Australia. So, I'm thinking that the flashback was about 8 years ago, but I could be wrong.



Actually I made a post about this entire thing. Shannon is twenty years old on the island. Boone and Shannon are two years apart. It wasn't four years but it was a little over two years. I checked the episode. Sarah said a little over two years ago I was in an accident. If we were able to find out how old Shannon was when her father died we'll be able to instantly find out how long his been done there.

[Verday]

Also, the steroids that Desmond was injecting said "Rutherford" on them. I guess that means he was maybe a doctor?

Are there screencaps of this? I found some, but I saw no "Rutherford" written on anything.

[Katherine_Sawyer]

okay, so the whole timeline issue... Jack isn't married. He's said so. He doesn't wear a ring. When asked about wearing the ring, he answered that he wasn't married. So, how long from the time he stopped be married to the time his father left to Australia? And how long were Sarah and Jack married, for that matter? There's a million ways to make it fit. But honestly, how could Adam Rutherford NOT be Shannon's father? They NEVER do anything on that show on accident.

But...this does make things a bit awkward. Inadvertently and not knowing it, Jack left Adam for dead. He had to choose between pulling shrapnel steering column out of Sarah (anyone else notice the eery resemblance to the shrapnel in the Marshal's stomach??) or trying to save Adam.

Odd, that.

[redemption]

The whole thing comes down to this. If we can find out how old Shannon was when her father died, we'll have a time frame because basically lets say for example she was 14. Well she's 20 now so it would be 6 years. Theres never a point during Lost that it says. If we can find out how long Jack and Sarah were together that would answer some questions too. But without that information we're screwed.

[LostTop10]

I also caught shannons dad name.Only 1 thing i can´t figure out.Who´s to blame for the car crash?
Shannon´s dad? Or Sarah?

[Katherine_Sawyer]

I don't think either one is actually to blame. Sarah's car spun out, crashed through the divider, and hit an SUV head on. So...there you go.

And didn't it mention that Shannon's dad died when she was 8? I swear it did.

[Verday]

And didn't it mention that Shannon's dad died when she was 8? I swear it did.

No. Shannon's dad and Boone's mom got married when Shannon was 8 and Boone was 10. Shannon's dad must have died some time after that.

[Taylor!]

do yall honestly think they would say the name Rutherford and it just be a coincidence?

this is Lost we're talking about. the man that died was Shannon's dad.

any chance Shannon will ever learn that Jack was the doctor who chose to save someone else?

[jetembers]

Do we know how old Jack is?

[bezzer007]

Ialso noticed that Kate, who's story line is still mysteries, is the only character listed without a last name. It might not be anything important but it may connect her to another cast away's story.

Kate's last name is Austin as stated on the recording with Tom from the time capsole

[anomaly]

Thiis is the guy on the hospital bed..

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/534/lockev13bt.jpg

That looks so much like Locke! They wouldn't have tried to hide his face so much if it wasn't important...I'm convinced it's him...

Hey...maybe Locke is Shannons dad!! :D

[cam]

I totally agree with you there. EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON!
I agree with both of you lol! :D

[leeva_aguilera]

Thiis is the guy on the hospital bed..

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/534/lockev13bt.jpg

That looks so much like Locke! They wouldn't have tried to hide his face so much if it wasn't important...I'm convinced it's him...

Hey...maybe Locke is Shannons dad!! :D
You ain't lying...I too say that it looks like Locke. Amazing...

[pinkprincess]

OOO i didn't notice that, I just watched it again and they say "adam rutherford, 57, cheast traumer, no breath sounds"

Also I may be reading too far into this thing but they say his time of death was 8:15 am... 8 and 15 were both number in hurleys lottery stuff and on the hatch and everywhere....either I'm getting too involved in this programme or those are some very clever script writers!!

Lexie ~x~x~x~

[Razor]

But...this does make things a bit awkward. Inadvertently and not knowing it, Jack left Adam for dead. He had to choose between pulling shrapnel steering column out of Sarah (anyone else notice the eery resemblance to the shrapnel in the Marshal's stomach??) or trying to save Adam.

Odd, that.

I'm kind of surprised they added that in - with Jack waivering when Mr Rutherford is wheeled into the ER. He had already started working on Sarah, it would have seemed, to me, really odd to drop what he was doing and work on Adam instead. Besides we know how Jack doesn't like to give up on anything - regardless of how lost a cause it is.


Katherine_Sawyer, I like your banner ... Big Janet Evanovich fan?

[ephland]

Not so sure it was her dad. If you put it into time perspective Shannon and Boone's parents married when Shannon was 9. She's 20 now, so that would mean that segment took place sometime after they got married, so at most, 10 years ago. It really all depends on when Desmond got in the bunker.

For those of you who think that the second trauma patient was Shannon's dad - you might want to list that under spoilers. Because nowhere during Season 1 does Shannon ever say that her dad is dead. And Rutherford is not exactly a rare name. It could be her dad, but as of yet we don't know. We have not been told of her father's passing yet, and until the show (read: Shannon) tells us that her father is dead, then speculating that the trauma patient is Shannon's dad is silly.

[juniper]

We have not been told of her father's passing yet, and until the show (read: Shannon) tells us that her father is dead, then speculating that the trauma patient is Shannon's dad is silly.

Didn't she say in Hearts & Minds something about Boone's mom taking all her daddy's money after he died and that was why she was scamming Boone? I don't remember; I might have imagined that...it's been awhile since I've seen that eppy...sorry. :confused:

[buffyfan145]

I just rewatched "Hearts & Minds" and Shannon did say that her dad died, and Boone's mom took all the money that belonged to her. I'm pretty sure that was Shannon's dad that died.

[redemtion]

do yall honestly think they would say the name Rutherford and it just be a coincidence?

this is Lost we're talking about. the man that died was Shannon's dad.

any chance Shannon will ever learn that Jack was the doctor who chose to save someone else?

This is going to be an interesting story line to watch closely. What if Shannon discovers that Jack was the attending physician at her father's death by hearing Jack tell how he met Sara and those "little details" in the ER? What if Shannon links her father's death and Boone's death to solely Jack's decision making? Oh my God! What if Locke relates that his daughter died on the operating table from a car crash with Drs. Shepard operating with the outcome of death and malpractice? They would not have put that so boldly into the story line earlier with out later repurcussions of the young woman in a car crash who was pregnant. This would link Shannon, Locke, and Jack. What to say that Locke recognizes the name Dr. Jack Shepard and hence his aloofness and distrust?

[ephland]

Didn't she say in Hearts & Minds something about Boone's mom taking all her daddy's money after he died and that was why she was scamming Boone? I don't remember; I might have imagined that...it's been awhile since I've seen that eppy...sorry. :confused:

I watched the first season as it originally aired, watched it again from start to finish once the DVD's came out, and have gone over the transcripts from every episode. Shannon mentioned her father and Boone's mother ONCE, when she is with Sayid on the beach and she tells Sayid that Boone is her step-brother. Boone mentions their situation once as well, in the Austrailian Police Station. He says that "Rutherford" is her father's name and "Carlyle" is his mother's name.

Yes, I realize that the man who died had the name of Rutherford. But I've got no proof that he is Shannon's dad. Right now, it's merely a coincidence.

[juniper]

Found the transcript. It was Bryan who mentioned her father's death. Sorry, my bad.

From Hearts & Minds:

Bryan

She's just getting what she's owed.


Boone

What'd you say?


Bryan

She told me your mum screwed Shannon over after her daddy died, kept all her father's money for herself. Sweet mum you got there.

(Still, it would be silly for Bryan to lie about it, since I'm pretty sure Boone would know if his stepfather was still alive, right?)

[buffyfan145]

Rewatch "Hearts & Minds" when Boone found out that Shannon and her boyfriend Brian was scaming him. I just watched this eairler this moring and Brian did say something to Boone about his mom taking Shannon's inheritance money after her dad died.

Edit: Thanks for putting the dialogue up.

[ephland]

I just rewatched "Hearts & Minds" and Shannon did say that her dad died, and Boone's mom took all the money that belonged to her. I'm pretty sure that was Shannon's dad that died.

Ok - in Hearts and Minds - Shannon's BOYFRIEND says to Boone:

She told me your mum screwed Shannon over after her daddy died, kept all her father's money for herself. Sweet mum you got there.

So I was wrong. And an idiot.

[ephland]

Rewatch "Hearts & Minds" when Boone found out that Shannon and her boyfriend Brian was scaming him. I just watched this eairler this moring and Brian did say something to Boone about his mom taking Shannon's inheritance money after her dad died.

Edit: Thanks for putting the dialogue up.

Alright - I was wrong. Shannon's dad is dead.

[henderjr]

Not completely related to this thread but when would this pic of Shannon be from? I don't remember her every getting seriously hurt like that last season.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/games/trivia/bonus/5.jpg

The other bonus pics all appear to be from season one.

[Nizz49]

Thiis is the guy on the hospital bed..

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/534/lockev13bt.jpg

That looks so much like Locke! They wouldn't have tried to hide his face so much if it wasn't important...I'm convinced it's him...

Hey...maybe Locke is Shannons dad!! :D




Maybe it has some connection w/ Jack not helping 'Shannon's Dad/Locke'. Locke ended up being paralyzed from the waist down...Sarah was supposed to be paralyzed according to Jack. Somehow their fate may have gotten switch because of Jack's choice?

Just a thought from a newbie post......

Anyone else mention this?

[freeman]

Not completely related to this thread but when would this pic of Shannon be from? I don't remember her every getting seriously hurt like that last season.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/games/trivia/bonus/5.jpg

The other bonus pics all appear to be from season one.

in boone's dream on drugs...

[henderjr]

in boone's dream on drugs...

Ah yeah thanks freeman!

[johndoe75]

i posted it earlier somewhere that i was watching the 7th dvd special features and they show jack origin script it says he is 40 y.o he looks younger though and yes they changed few things about characters, but maybe not. as the all show about WHAT IF...

[Katherine_Sawyer]

I'm kind of surprised they added that in - with Jack waivering when Mr Rutherford is wheeled into the ER. He had already started working on Sarah, it would have seemed, to me, really odd to drop what he was doing and work on Adam instead. Besides we know how Jack doesn't like to give up on anything - regardless of how lost a cause it is.


Katherine_Sawyer, I like your banner ... Big Janet Evanovich fan?


Hells yes! I'm in love with them. I'm, like, having an affair with them. It's not Ranger, but it's better than some things. lol.






It was a weird way to incorporate the Shannon/Jack connection. The writers are SO amazingly talented. I never get half the stuff they put in there, and when I go and read all these things on the boards, its like "WOAH! They did it again????"

[tracee]

Found the transcript. It was Bryan who mentioned her father's death. Sorry, my bad.

From Hearts & Minds:

Bryan

She's just getting what she's owed.


Boone

What'd you say?


Bryan

She told me your mum screwed Shannon over after her daddy died, kept all her father's money for herself. Sweet mum you got there.

(Still, it would be silly for Bryan to lie about it, since I'm pretty sure Boone would know if his stepfather was still alive, right?)
Bryan may not have been lying,per say, but might have been mistaken, since his information came from Shannon in the first place.
We really don't know that Shannon was cheated out of anything.
She was using her boyfriend to scam money from Boone. I really don't think it is a huge leap to wonder if maybe Shannon lied to the boyfriend to gain sympathy and his help.



As I said in different thread I will be sorely disappointed should J.J and Company fall back onto the cliche of the wicked step-mother.

[Katherine_Sawyer]

OH come on, what cliche is cooler than the wicked step-mother???

[kiko]

spoiler fix said about last episode that the thing in the hatch will be either 7 or 3 words both words start and end with same letters and they gotta mean the same thing...I dont see that yet but who knows...lol
7 word - Desmond (ends with D)
3 word- dad (ends with d)

[tracee]

OH come on, what cliche is cooler than the wicked step-mother???
I'll think on it and get back to you ;)

[wcupmartin6]

I'm kind of surprised they added that in - with Jack waivering when Mr Rutherford is wheeled into the ER. He had already started working on Sarah, it would have seemed, to me, really odd to drop what he was doing and work on Adam instead. Besides we know how Jack doesn't like to give up on anything - regardless of how lost a cause it is.


Katherine_Sawyer, I like your banner ... Big Janet Evanovich fan?

Jack had the chance to save Shannon's Dad & he might have had a chance to save Shannon's step brother. Neither instance panned out. Jack is letting Shannon's family die. But he did save sarah from that loser.

[wing_wing]

yea yea yea, the name rutherford strike me when it showed, but couldn't rememeber a thing at that instant, thx for reminding!!!!

[ellebasi]

i think it'd be very creepy if kate was in that hospital too, visiting her mother.. i remember
there was an anouncement "Dr shephard to ER" in kate's flashback, when she was running through the corridor..
or do we know for sure that this event took place in a different hospital?

[alch3mist]

wow, ellebasi, I didn't even hear that post... *goes to watch the epi again.

Before we get too mad at Jack for not helping Mr. Rutherford, lets not forget that Jack asked if the ER had paged his father. They said yes. His father never showed up... story of his life it seems. heh

[juniper]

We really don't know that Shannon was cheated out of anything.
She was using her boyfriend to scam money from Boone. I really don't think it is a huge leap to wonder if maybe Shannon lied to the boyfriend to gain sympathy and his help.



As I said in different thread I will be sorely disappointed should J.J and Company fall back onto the cliche of the wicked step-mother.

I see where you're coming from.

Shannon could very well have honestly felt as though she was being cheated out of something, though. I wouldn't consider it to be a "wicked step-mother" scenario because it often happens in real life that step families don't get along. It doesn't make Boone's mother wicked, or Shannon either for that matter.

Shannon was quite young (eight, I think?) when their parents married, so it's quite possible that she was accustomed to it being just her and her dad, and if she wasn't close to her step-mother, she could easily have resented her for taking over his affection... and his money, I guess. I'm admittedly biased because Shannon's my favorite character and I don't want her to be one-dimensionally wicked.

Ummmm...am I making sense? :p

[lostnfound]

i didn't here it but i'll have to watch again

[tracee]

I see where you're coming from.

Shannon could very well have honestly felt as though she was being cheated out of something, though. I wouldn't consider it to be a "wicked step-mother" scenario because it often happens in real life that step families don't get along. It doesn't make Boone's mother wicked, or Shannon either for that matter.

Shannon was quite young (eight, I think?) when their parents married, so it's quite possible that she was accustomed to it being just her and her dad, and if she wasn't close to her step-mother, she could easily have resented her for taking over his affection... and his money, I guess. I'm admittedly biased because Shannon's my favorite character and I don't want her to be one-dimensionally wicked.

Ummmm...am I making sense? :p
Yes, you are making sense.
Blended families frequently have problems that no one person is to blame for.


Truthfully, I really don't like Shannon that much. But I don't see her as "wicked", but rather spoiled and selfish.

[Wolfeman]

No. Shannon's dad and Boone's mom got married when Shannon was 8 and Boone was 10. Shannon's dad must have died some time after that.

What episode does it say Shannon's dad died? I'm very curious.

[LoVe4LoSt]

ok peopl this is off subject but totallt awesome I havent finished yet but it works either way help me fill it up

4-deaths (for the whole time the show is on)
8
> 815 flight 815~!!!!!
15
16- years french women has been on the island( an did you notice that now since the french womens daughter alex is 16 they want another new child )
23- others from tail section( maybe im pretty sure)
42-after the deaths the number of survivors.

*if you want to add or reject things to this feel free:)*

[LoVe4LoSt]

[QUOTE=Nizz49]Maybe it has some connection w/ Jack not helping 'Shannon's Dad/Locke'. Locke ended up being paralyzed from the waist down...Sarah was supposed to be paralyzed according to Jack. Somehow their fate may have gotten switch because of Jack's choice?


but didnt that guy in the hospital die in the ER and died 8:15 AM
so it cant be locke hes still alive. but that was a good idea ;)

[LoVe4LoSt]

"[QUOTE=ellebasi]i think it'd be very creepy if kate was in that hospital too, visiting her mother.. i remember
there was an anouncement "Dr shephard to ER" in kate's flashback, when she was running through the corridor..
or do we know for sure that this event took place in a different hospital?"

thats awesome yeah i have to check that out!! awesome

[Wolfeman]

What episode does it say Shannon's dad died? I'm very curious.

Anyone? I'm really, really curious where this came from...

[Silver Spider]

In Jack's flashback for "Man of Science, Man of Faith." Apparently his was the SUV that hit Sarah's car.

[Wolfeman]

I know but people are saying that Shannon's dad died when she was 8 or 9 and that places this scenario about 11 years ago. I was wondering where this is coming from...

[Razor]

I know but people are saying that Shannon's dad died when she was 8 or 9 and that places this scenario about 11 years ago. I was wondering where this is coming from...

No, what has been said is that Shannon's dad married Boone's mother when she was 8, (according to Brian, her boyfriend in AU - during H&M) her Dad died sometime after the time of marriage (obviously:D) and before Shannon's trip to Australia ... quite a large window of time.

[Wolfeman]

No, what has been said is that Shannon's dad married Boone's mother when she was 8, (according to Brian, her boyfriend in AU - during H&M) her Dad died sometime after the time of marriage (obviously:D) and before Shannon's trip to Australia ... quite a large window of time.

AHHHHHHHH :o So its somewhere between like 12 and 2 years. OK makes more sense...

[susan74]

So jack is basically responsible for ruining Shannons life, theres n episode that said after her dad died her mother took all of her dad's money and left Shannon with nothing. Then she went off with rich guys using them for their money, and having her brother bail her out.

her fathers death defined her life and ultimately is the reason why she's on that island. Jack had a choice between the guy and Sarah as far as who he was going to focus his attention on. He chose Sarah.

I wish i saw this thread earlier, i kept thinking there was something important about the guy who died but i couldn't make the connection until just a few minutes ago when i was reading a transcript and saw his name. Then the lights came on

[honestjoe]

As far as Mr.Rutherford, it seems most of you agree that it was indeed Shannon's dad. What is overlooked is that Sarah (who was to be wed in 8 months to Kevin) was on her way to look at wedding supplies (table cloths) and that Boone owned and ran a wedding supply store. That would help explain why Mr.Rutherford and her could be on the same road and same path. Mr.Rutherford may have just left Boone's store, while Sara was headed to Boone's store. Somewhere in the middle, BOOM! They crashed...

Also, we know Desmond was in the hatch 3 years (if he's NOT lying), and that he met Jack on the same day as the surgery (and death of Mr.Rutherford). So that would put the event back to at least 3 years ago. If we knew how much time transpired between Jack and Dez meeting until when Dez crashed into the reef, then we can add that number to 3 (time dez has been in the hatch) and know exactly how long ago Mr.Rutherford died.

[Boones_Babe]

I think from what i have heard, Shannon was about 16 when her dad died, she defo isnt younger than that if you look at the promo pics for episode 6!!! Remember she pent ayear in france, and some time in Australia!!! i think this makes sence?!?!?

[nisjer05]

Usa today confirms that the man that Jack let die in the ER was in fact Shannon's dad. This comes from an interview with the woman that plays Shannon.

[i_love_foxy]

I thought that shannon's dad died shortly after he married boone's mom. She was 8 and boone was 10 when they married. If Desmond has been on the island for 3 years, and possibly training for his "race around the world" for approx. a year before he crashed on the island then that would make it 4 years since he saw Jack at the stadium..... and 4 years since the accident. Locke said he had been paralyzed for 4 years before coming to the island- so the accidents appear to be around the same time....If jack and Sarah were only married for a few years then that would fit also. One other thing I remember is that when Boone was in Sydney at the police station trying to help shannon - he told the policeman that she had a brief marraige of convienience and that that's why her last name was Rutherford and not Carlyle....could she have possibly married Adam rutherford ,57, who was killed in the accident with Sarah when she was 16 - 4 years prior??? Then it was not her dad but her husband....Another thing that sticks with me is that Locke's mother said that he was special... he was immaculatley concieved. I was thinking that his rich daddy maybe was in on the dharma science front and had locke cloned from- ???? - where I don't know... But maybe since Shannon's dad/husband was rich too they had saved his body with cryogenics(one of the hanso projects) and cloned locke. But then why would shannon not recognize Locke as her dad/husband if they looked identical???
hmmm what do you think peeps???:eek:

[lostfan68]

I think from what i have heard, Shannon was about 16 when her dad died, she defo isnt younger than that if you look at the promo pics for episode 6!!! Remember she pent ayear in france, and some time in Australia!!! i think this makes sence?!?!?



She is 20. I heard her tell that to (I think) Sawyer.

[Romina]

While explaining how he got to the hatch, Desmond tells Jack that 3 years ago he got to the island. That makes 3 years since Sarah's accident and after 2 years of healing, Sarah and Jack got married. So they were married for max. 1 year or less. Because Jack says he isn't married anymore. we'll see what happened to their marriage.

[zaleska]

i think it'd be very creepy if kate was in that hospital too, visiting her mother.. i remember
there was an anouncement "Dr shephard to ER" in kate's flashback, when she was running through the corridor..
or do we know for sure that this event took place in a different hospital?

isn't there a way to calculate how much time there is thought this? i mean.. the marshal is telling about how long ago kate's friend (tom?) was killed.. that will say how many years there are between shannons dad dying and the plane crash..