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johndoe75
09-19-2005, 02:30 AM
what is up with the slaves, (skeletons in the Black Rock) i mean 16 years ago wasnt really a slave keeping time, so the french woman maybe wasnt part of a science excpedition?
the black rock is way way older than the boat that the french woman was on
johndoe75
09-19-2005, 09:28 AM
whi did i think that was her ship?
this mining theory has been floating around for a while now, it all adds up and makes good sense. it explains the underground tunnels etc which have been developed into security systems to protect whoevers on the island...
*Pauly*
09-19-2005, 11:37 AM
I think they were prisoners. They were shipped around that time from England to Australia so yeah definitely prisoners as apposed to slaves as slavery was abolished by late 19th century which is when I believe the Black Rock is meant to have been placed in.
Riese
09-19-2005, 11:45 AM
Maybe they got the "sickness".
Pupp3t Mast3r
09-27-2005, 11:55 PM
Also during the 1800's, prisoners were taken to Austrailia in ships for coal and opal mining operations which would explain all the mining equiptment and dynomite.
Not as much slaves but prisoners, Australia back then was seen as a big jail island :P
I know cause from having 17/18 of my ancestors coming over here on boats as prisoners... I dont some family history stuff :D
shred
09-28-2005, 01:19 AM
I know cause from having 17/18 of my ancestors coming over here on boats as prisoners...
So how did 1/18 get there?
I think the whole slave/prisoner debate started because Locke speculated the skeletons were slaves on their way to a mining colony. I agree it makes more sense that the ship was on its way to Australia with those Irish/English prisoners. However, I thought the prison ships simply sequestered the prisoners in the ship's hold rather than chaining them up. You could shed light on that since you have all those colorful ancestors.
Also during the 1800's, prisoners were taken to Austrailia in ships for coal and opal mining operations which would explain all the mining equiptment and dynomite.
But if you're sailing from east Africa (aka Nigeria) to Australia, crossing the Pacific ocean REALLY isn't the shortest way..
radkon
09-30-2005, 02:30 PM
But if you're sailing from east Africa (aka Nigeria) to Australia, crossing the Pacific ocean REALLY isn't the shortest way..
I agree, the theory of English or Irish prisoners is a bit out there. Why would the ship have Dynamite? Would they really sail from England or Ireland around South America across the Pacific? I figured they would head around Africa, across the Indian Ocean.
BTW Dynamite was invented around 1867 so the ship could've been there for a long time.
Elbatcho
09-30-2005, 02:34 PM
This was our ideas on it so far. http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=15376
leelovesbikestoo
05-12-2006, 05:32 AM
But if you're sailing from east Africa (aka Nigeria) to Australia, crossing the Pacific ocean REALLY isn't the shortest way..
Nigera is on Africa's West coast though.;)
Darkbear
05-15-2006, 07:51 PM
The theory for English and Irish prisoners isn't that out there just look at the Pitcairn Islands.
It would be unusual for a ship to have sailed east to west around Cape Horn as that is against the currents and the weather. It was quite normal for slave ships to follow the coast of Africa and round the Cape of Good Hope, cross the Indian Ocean to the East.
Even if it was a mining expidition it was always possible that they picked up slaves from Africa/India/China on the way through. Being that the boat is lodged at a reasonable altitude it would suggest a tsunami, which is not unreasonable being that the area the islands are supposed to be in is a high volcanic area along the edge of two plates.
In 1883 Krakatoa exploded causing huge tsunami to fan out across the seas surrounding it. Some were nearly 100ft high and would have travelled for miles. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa
It is quite possible that the Others are a cross between the people who came to the island for a commune and the survivors of the Black Rock. And yes, unlike in the stories, most ships had quite a few women on board for various reasons. It is only superstition that says not.
How did the Black Rock get so far inland? Who brought it there?
Darkbear
05-16-2006, 03:38 PM
How did the Black Rock get so far inland? Who brought it there?
You obviously haven't seen much footage of the Indonesian Tsunami! They had boats there inland by up to a mile on the flat, but incidents like Krakatoa would have easily created waves high enough to dump the Black Rock on her perch.
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